People are really complaining over 3 silver?
You don’t even need to do story mode to run exp modes. If people spent time practicing the exp mode then they would see that they are not that bad.
For me everything is working correct again and I am really happy about that, because now I actually feel rewarded when doing a dungeon.
But just out of curiousity. Is there any chance we re getting back the tokens that we missed out on during the last week?
And for Zytherion: 20 is the amount you get if you already ran the path once that day so it would make sence you somehow did it after the reset the day before.
You will not get the tokens you missed out on.
Dungeons reset at 5pm pacific time daily.
So you run CoF path 2 at 10pm you will get 60 tokens. After this it doesn’t matter what dungeon or path you run you wall not get more than 20 tokens from CoF path 2 until after 5pm the following day
Just finished path 2 no problem, was everything normal until then?
It does not require class stacking and if your group can work together like marking the correct targets and using combo fields correctly then it is very doable.
First run of CoF today, got 20. The other 3 got 60 and one guy got 15. I just want the 40 I missed out on.
In the past I got 60 on the first and 20 on the runs after.
Did you run it yesterday? the dungeons reset at 5pm pacific time and that was only 5 minutes ago
Anet said its 5pm pacific time in one post I saw
Seriously? Account Bound?…. I would seriously love to have the tokens go back to being character bound and let me play how I want to.
I am not someone who has ever spammed a dungeon, but I want to be able to spend my time in the game having the fun I choose to have. Say what you want, that the game should be its own fun, but trust me when I say that getting to the end of a dungeon and getting “jipped” is not fun, its frustrating, irritating and down right unacceptable.
How is having alts and running something on an alt exploitative? I want to look cool and have fun just as much on my warrior as I do on my elementalist. Now you are saying that I have to spend double the time to do so? Seriously, having DR on dungeons is acceptable in my mind, but having it account bound is so completely not.
Can’t have it both ways, either tokens are character bound or DR is account bound
Doesn’t the amount become less and less each time your complete the same path? Whats the cool down so that you can complete a path again and receive maximum badges?
The next day after reset.
They have already stated they are not going to give out any specifics about how DR works
If the person that started the dungeon leaves it will reset
lol at thinking you should get max tokens just for switching characters
The problem I see here is people that might have been good at other easier mmo so when they can’t do something anyone else that can is exploiting or saying people have overpowered gear( lol op gear in this game)
When I went blind in my left eye 2 years ago I though gaming would be tough, but it really didn’t change anything.
You get 20 for finishing a dungeon path but if its your first run of the day you get an extra 40.
Line of Warding also interrupts the moment you touch it, doesn’t it? I’m not a Guardian player, but against Guardians, I always found it a bit strong for too long. :P
Lol learn to run around it?
I think I remember them saying they are working on how conditions affect objects. Hope it’s sooner than later because right now condition damage is worthless for anything other than killing mobs/players.
Are there any plans to make it so that we don’t have to jump up on the wall and hang off the side to cast ground target spells below us?
4 silver is not insane it is very cheap
The story loot you can get once at the end should not be worse than a free chest you can open every 3hrs
Underwater combat is really easy once you figure it out, I really don’t even get hit anymore unless its a champion. Just takes practice like everything else.
I have to agree with mulch, the cultural sets are a waste of money. You can get the mats together for a full set of exotic gear in less than a week.
My guild is unable to use our guild boots, when we try to activate them nothing happens.
Is there a trick to it?
It’s kittening kitten to sit here and justify a coding error.
To think you deserve special treament for something that you decided to take a chance on is laughable.
Special treatment? No I think this is what should happen for those that have proof of this happening, and my proof is very clear.
Chances? No there isn’t no chance to it are you kitten I’ve done that dungeon so many times and never had a problem with rewards.
This was not a dimishing returns problem. This was a problem of pressing accept rewards and not getting them right away.
It is a bug, bugs are unpredicable, you know can strike anytime. Let it go, some of your post may already get you banned, and getting banned over 1 dungeon run is foolish.
I really don’t give a kitten if I get banned the pvp kittening blows and the game has kittened me over so many times with no return on what I got kittened over on if they want to ban me they can ban me because I really don’t give a kitten at this point.
Then there is no reason to waste your time continuing to post and my time to read the rants of a child. Good Day
It’s kittening kitten to sit here and justify a coding error.
To think you deserve special treament for something that you decided to take a chance on is laughable.
Special treatment? No I think this is what should happen for those that have proof of this happening, and my proof is very clear.
Chances? No there isn’t no chance to it are you kitten I’ve done that dungeon so many times and never had a problem with rewards.
This was not a dimishing returns problem. This was a problem of pressing accept rewards and not getting them right away.
It is a bug, bugs are unpredicable, you know can strike anytime. Let it go, some of your post may already get you banned, and getting banned over 1 dungeon run is foolish.
It’s kittening kitten to sit here and justify a coding error.
To think you deserve special treament for something that you decided to take a chance on is laughable.
Its a bug they are working on fixing.
I have never come across the getting kick bug
" Devs warned you to wait, the game is bugged and they know it too. "
No they didn’t I didn’t see a message in my inbox telling me not to dungeon I did the dungeon so many times and got the proper rewards. I also didn’t see no warning before going into the dungeon.
They may have made a thread, that I didn’t and so many others wouldn’t have seen, however they are talking about DR, I guess you cannot comprehend how this is completely unrelated to diminishing returns.
I am asking you nicely to please get the kitten out of my thread.
Trying to act like someone getting kittened over is ok is kittening ridiculous. Trying to justify not getting rewards when you pressed accept 60 shards and 29 silver is kittening insane.
Its a known bug by almost every player in the game, it doesn’t matter what dungeon you do there is a chance of it happening. My advice is to get over it because you will not be reimbursed anything.
Don’t count on it, I highly doubt they would keep track of everyone that runs dungeons and how many tokens they don’t get. Smart thing to do is just wait to run dungeons until they fix it or remove the DR (best option)
do 6 dungeon chain, not 1 dungeon 3 path chain. iam happy with anet idea.
u do 10 min dungeon? great! u ll have more time for Wvw, or pvp or dynamic events!
Why would I run dungeons for gear I don’t want?
Well hold on here.
Nobody actually knows the amount of DR the system currently puts on the players. There is a bug at the moment which is screwing things up, so before you all start going in to a rant, lets just wait for the bug fix first?
Correct. People can speculate about the timing involved and how it works – we will not be divulging this information since it opens the system up to people finding ways around it. While we are confident in the system, we are doubly confident that people are amazing at finding holes in systems and breaking them.
The system is currently bugged, and is treating people unfairly. We’re actively working on it.
So why keep it in there? As it stands now dungeons are not even worth doing, how many people do you think will stick around while you try and figure out whats wrong and based on how well you can fix bugged skill points ( not at all) we will never be doing dungeons again.
I agree, all these bugs are getting really frustrating.
Both my hubby & I need to beat the hylek in metrica province as the last thing for that zone. We knew a patch was coming soon & that would reset the guy. So after the patch we went back to try the skill challenge and low & behold he’s dead again in a different location (so I know he was working after the patch at some point).
I love this game and I have much respect for Arena Net, having been a Guild Wars player myself. But it seems like these guys need more help or something. I saw a thread asking why there was no public test server, that seems like a good idea and something Arena Net should probably look into. Players who go into public test servers know they are testing and can help get some of this stuff ironed out before it hits live.
That Hylek is the last thing I have needed for a week now to have every zone on the regular map done.
The stupid bugs like this are getting really old
The problem is its a terrible system and the game is rejecting it.
I don’t want things handed to me.
What I do want is to be able to farm what I want where I want, to run the dungeons that I enjoy for the gear I think looks cool not have to go some where else for gear that is ugly. I want to have fun in GW2 but all I have gotten is that the things that I think are fun are not aloud even though they I break none of the rules and I don’t hurt other players in any way.
@ Dark Sentry
I like how you call the CoF gear the noob gear, because IMO its the only gear that looks even remotely decent
@spawn
and instead of removing an obviously broken system they just keep it in place and hurt the game.
Their relationship with gamers was always like that. Something like : " Eat this! Now like or choke to death! Oh, you found some fun in MY GAME? How dare you! Thats not the way i designed to be played!"
What fun did they remove?
The maps with events only now wont drop a single item, the dungeons are insane hard to PUG (many paths) and you wont have any reward unless you fully end it, the queue time for wvw is ridiculous…need more?
They are really not that hard. Try harder.
I agree about the queue times, but for my server it’s fine.
But don’t try to hard because if you get to good and can clear something fast then they will not give you your rewards.
@ref
Why? They already took away the gold and xp, taking the tokens just makes me not want to even run them.
I am running the dungeons for the gear not for the crappy stories.
Because they want people to do all 3 routes not just 1.
But there shouldn’t be DR on doing different routes, no matter how long it takes.
Forcing things that are not fun on players seems like a great business decision
They are not forcing anyone to do anything, they are just encouraging people to try the more challenging parts.
Yes encouraging me by taking away my choice of how I want to get the tokens.
you still have a choice
Anet had a choice to not be like every other mmo company out there, but so far they are walking the same path.
@ref
Why? They already took away the gold and xp, taking the tokens just makes me not want to even run them.
I am running the dungeons for the gear not for the crappy stories.
Because they want people to do all 3 routes not just 1.
But there shouldn’t be DR on doing different routes, no matter how long it takes.
Forcing things that are not fun on players seems like a great business decision
They are not forcing anyone to do anything, they are just encouraging people to try the more challenging parts.
Yes encouraging me by taking away my choice of how I want to get the tokens.
@ref
Why? They already took away the gold and xp, taking the tokens just makes me not want to even run them.
I am running the dungeons for the gear not for the crappy stories.
Because they want people to do all 3 routes not just 1.
But there shouldn’t be DR on doing different routes, no matter how long it takes.
Forcing things that are not fun on players seems like a great business decision
It all goes back to how they like to motivate their players. They don’t want us running the same paths over and over again. One way to fix that is to destroy any semblance of rewards the more you play it (what they are doing now). Another way is to make your other dungeon paths/dungeons more fun and worth playing (the smart way). Sure, you shouldn’t just leave one path as exploitable or even almost exploitable, but there needs to be balance between the dungeons if you want others to play them all. This all seems like really poor methods for solving their issues with their content.
All they are doing now is motivating me to never run dungeons again.
@ref
Why? They already took away the gold and xp, taking the tokens just makes me not want to even run them.
I am running the dungeons for the gear not for the crappy stories.
(edited by Kromica.2831)
@Xorin: Keep in mind they said earlier in this thread the dungeon runs did not reset with the server down last night(see below). What that says to me is when they say run a dungeon in a day they don’t really mean midnight to midnight. I think they mean within a 24 hour period. If that’s the case if you ran a dungeon last night at 11pm, then one this morning at 11am the one this morning would be the second one, and so on.
I of course don’t know this for sure but it might explain some of the strangeness you guys are seeing.
All rewards are susceptible to our code that is dealing with people who are speed clearing dungeons. If you find yourself getting less rewards consider whether or not your rate of dungeon completion is extremely high. This did not get reset with the patch.
If you think you are running at a fairly reasonable pace post all of the chains you have run and the times to complete and we will file it to try and figure out if it is a bug. Please post accurate times, otherwise we cannot determine if there are in fact bugs in the system.
Thanks,
Jon
EDIT:Bolded important part
If its working like before then why is there DR on tokens.
There should NEVER be DR on tokens
So there are DM on tokens now?
Yes. But the system is still not working as it should be. So it’s giving diminished rewards on tokens when it shouldn’t. Basically before the build, we only had to worry about monetary/EXP reward. Now we worry about getting gypped on tokens and monetary/EXP reward.
So there is still no point in running dungeons. Well I guess I will check back in a few weeks.
I think all the gear from there is ugly and running just to see it is not worth the repair bills I am sure I would incur.
So there are DM on tokens now?
Kicked out of game just now and getting error 42 on login again
The design goal of the game is that the ideal rewards should come from normal play.
Normal play is defined as doing a mix of content. Not a focused content.
That means ALL of DEs, hearts, exploring, crafting, Dungeons, WvWvW, etc.
Farming is usually a narrow focus kill repetitive mobs affair – if that is what you are doing, it should have the lowest possible reward. Grinding mobs is specifically meant to be the bottom end of the reward spectrum.
If you’re doing something else – but it is still repetitive, then it is still meant to be lower reward than varied play.
Over time and patches, and finding new ways people exploit the system – you can be sure they will plug the ‘holes’ that people are using to skirt around varied play.
In short is play the way Anet wants or GTFO, I hope they don’t mind when people stop playing because they can’t play how they enjoy and exploits have nothing to do with grinding mobs I think its fun to grind
I just go watch tv for 30mins then come back and farm for 15-20 mins until the drops stop and then repeat.