And all who stood by and did nothing, who are they to criticize the sacrifices of others?
Our blood has bought their lives.
Oh wow. Stylist guy asking for gems/gold for an extra char slot to do his service. Wow! Much deal, such service.
Also, “Dungeon Master” is a worthless title, anyone with it should feel bad.
Indeed, everyone knows that Volunteer is vastly superior!
Combat healer takes the cake imo.
I’ll forever sport my emperor title.
As for OP, that’s awful. Those folks should be ashamed of themselves. Unfortunately there’s not much to be done… but as usual the best thing you can do to prevent these sort of mishaps is open the dungeon yourself. Perhaps your “anyone welcome” parties would live up to their description where the others have failed.
Excellent likeness iris. I saw you asking the stylist service guy for recommendations. Did he help any? Regardless, really awesome!
A few questions: which bow is underneath the skin (like, is it a particular dungeon bow for the stats or another bow that might have some particle effects?
Other question, which skin/weapon were you using before you way pointed and switched? Was it a legendary?
Pardon my french but I’m so kittening tired of this bullkitten. It’s like racism and people are just being ignorant pricks to the Ranger profession. I understand completely that we’re lacking in DPS and that if you’re joining a PUG group you should do as they’ve asked in their description. I’m not the kind of person to join a group that specifically says “no Rangers” or something of the like, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not incredibly irritating. There are plenty of good Rangers out there and although yes, there are also plenty of bad ones, I’m so tired of the ignorance I could strangle someone. Ranger is my favorite profession and the one which I have the most fun on, but because of the community, I was forced to make a Warrior, which I’m not nearly as competent with, so that I could run dungeons without being interviewed for 20 minutes or being kicked on sight.
I don’t know about everyone else, but I’d rather someone play the profession they’re comfortable with than one they’re being forced to play. Because I can drop a banner and swing my sword but I’m sure there are better ways to improve my DPS as a Warrior that I don’t give a kitten to learn because I’d rather be on my Ranger.
A foul attitude maybe but a beast created by the community not one born of natural cause.And for the record, I often make my own groups to avoid this kind of kitten since it’s so prevalent in the LFG.
I do agree with you… in a less angry manner of course.
I don’t care who joins my parties really but I rarely get more than one “bad class” although one time I got the trifecta, they all have some benefits as long as they know what they’re doing. I mean I had a necromancer carry my whole party once. It happens!
I don’t like that there are some classes no one will accept but I do understand it will always be apart of optimization. This said, I think it is more often than not I can get into a party with my ranger, ping my sword and frost spirit, and that’s all they need to know.
I want a precursor! Hahah
I have recently been paying more attention to this and I found (at least in my pugs) that Asura players tend to be more prone to “weird behaviour” in dungeons. Like actually using the chat, greeting people and all sorts of strange stuff like socializing more.
I’m fairly certain this is a individual experience on my behalf, but as I said at least in my pugs, it appears to be the case.
ergo: We need more Asura.
Darn right.
regardless of whether people feel this fight is better now or not, it is a fact that this was an unintended change. I know there are many out there who want a challenge (me included) but this boss shouldn’t have been that fight. Instead, anet should just make another unforgiving boss somewhere else (maybe dry top dungeon?).
This fight with a uncoordinated pug group is a nightmare.
I don’t actually think it was unintended. They even put the change into the patch notes. They don’t do that for unintended changes.
You’re quite welcome. Ty for not DCing once.
Did a fractal with Cotser, got a crystalline band, good times! Also he sexy
Yeah, she aims her pistol at you as she shoots instantly and then one shots you. Such an amazing tell!
I’m going to take a stab at being civil unlike you, and say it is possible that with lag or a poor internet connection it might look like an instant shot. That’s a possibility but for me, with an excellent internet connection on both my EU and NA accounts the time between the point and the shot is literally 2 seconds.
You count fast, unfortunately seconds are a universal standard so even if you count really fast instant (for the sake of practicality) is still instant and not 2 seconds.
With that said, they might as well remove agony as a mechanic because having a mechanic like AR is pointless when the bosses are so OP all of her attacks are one shots. No class has that many dodges and blocks and invulnerability.
scratches head
My ele has that many. Warriors and Guardians too. Mesmers have multiple, more than I can count. Engis and thieves might have a rough time but rangers and necro are the only class I can see that doesn’t have as much access as the rest and I could be wrong about ranger… I don’t really play mine.
I’m sure you have the best intentions and all but I can tell you my information is completely accurate. I’m not a scrub and I’m not exactly a fractal casual, I pretty much live there nowadays.
Ranger does have a block on his greatsword. Necromancer gets shafted as usual.
Good to know. I sport my dreamer full time on my ranger Buahahahaha
I’m joking. Sorta. She’s just a fashion icon.
Poor necro.
Yeah, she aims her pistol at you as she shoots instantly and then one shots you. Such an amazing tell!
I’m going to take a stab at being civil unlike you, and say it is possible that with lag or a poor internet connection it might look like an instant shot. That’s a possibility but for me, with an excellent internet connection on both my EU and NA accounts the time between the point and the shot is literally 2 seconds.
You count fast, unfortunately seconds are a universal standard so even if you count really fast instant (for the sake of practicality) is still instant and not 2 seconds.
With that said, they might as well remove agony as a mechanic because having a mechanic like AR is pointless when the bosses are so OP all of her attacks are one shots. No class has that many dodges and blocks and invulnerability.
scratches head
My ele has that many. Warriors and Guardians too. Mesmers have multiple, more than I can count. Engis and thieves might have a rough time but rangers and necro are the only class I can see that doesn’t have as much access as the rest and I could be wrong about ranger… I don’t really play mine.
I’m sure you have the best intentions and all but I can tell you my information is completely accurate. I’m not a scrub and I’m not exactly a fractal casual, I pretty much live there nowadays.
Yeah, she aims her pistol at you as she shoots instantly and then one shots you. Such an amazing tell!
I’m going to take a stab at being civil unlike you, and say it is possible that with lag or a poor internet connection it might look like an instant shot. That’s a possibility but for me, with an excellent internet connection on both my EU and NA accounts the time between the point and the shot is literally 2 seconds.
She aims her pistol at the player furthest from her. You have a good amount of time to dodge this, if you don’t see it it’s literally just you not paying attention.
Well to be fair you can’t dodge it. But blocking, going invuln, reflecting, or destroying projectile works like a charm! Well reflecting protects you anyway
At the guy calling me a noob, so classy. My level 49s are such noob and I’m a total casual
Even if her teleport and lightning attacks did 100k damage you won’t die if you don’t get hit. Please review guides related to Mai Trin to glean some insight on strategies that work, practice the fight, and become one of the people who say it’s easy when threads like this are made.
Word, as long as you don’t get hit by the instant teleport instant down attack that she has no tell for. Good job with that insight genius.
Lol she points at you for 2 whole seconds. That’s a tell. Yep yep. It’s like a villain monologue.
I play with bearbows all the time, they don’t bother me because I actually prefer bosses not melting and actually being a challenge.
Better off soloing I guess haha
Till dps will be the betterand faster way to complete contents this game will never stop with those sh*ts… if for example condition should applyed only if u have >= x condi dmg cindi classes ( so also necro) will have a chance for be usefull, if an healer ( with new stats we can have it) will be the only way for do a content we will have other profession usefull, so 1 condi, 1 healer, 2 pure dps, 1suport etc etc
Wow man it sounds like so much fun to wait around for that condi build that we need to complete a dungeon!
Oh wait I mean no. You can run your condi build and survive in most dungeons! Hooray! It’s like ten thousand wars when all you need is a necro. Isn’t it ironic?
Don’t cha think?
Anyway no kicks for ranger’s using swords. Lets encourage those wonderful choices by keeping their sexy butts in our parties.
I’m doing a bunch of installs on servers this week and in my procedures it keeps saying Restart the server.
So all I can think of is Colesy.
RESTART.
THE.
DUNGEON.
Well I mean… to be fair, we have a million mini eir, zojja, kasmeer, marjory, and a billion queen jennahs. Has that ruined your immersion too?
This said, I want a mini baby devourer!
I’m wondering which rare sword “Espadon” is.
espadon means swordfish in french… So I have no idea!
If there’s a swordfish greatsword in game, I need it. Lol
I’m wondering which rare sword “Espadon” is.
I’m surprised you’re not considering Naegling for a Gothic warrior. But either way, I’d probably go for phoenix. I love both sets equally but phoenix does seem to fit better.
lol I wonder what kind of message arenanet is taking from all this.
“Waaaaaaah give me hard content that discourages berserker gear and stacking! Waaaaaaaaah”
Good players: “Okay. Sure.”
Anet: does this
“Waaaaaaaahhhhh fix this or I won’t play fractals anymore waaaaaaah!”
Good players: “Meh.”
@ Purple Miku.7032
The problem isnt its hard, the Problem is all fotm fights are at one scale and then Mai Trin is at a EXTREME scale.
As a teacher I would never jump students to that different levels of difficulty so fast for any reason.
Tell that to my old physics professors. Sheesh. Hehe
My advice.
Wear whichever armour you want.
There is only a tiny part of the community who actually care about which armour the other guy is wearing in PvE.
The OP asked for optimal… so it’s that they wish to be optimal.
That of course would depend on what he wants to optimise.
mega facepalm
Please educate me. Please.
Here’s an interesting tidbit of purely anecdotal evidence:
My main account gets nothing for drops. I play this account every day for a little bit. Kill at least one mob. I don’t get much of anything. I log into my alternate account once a week. I don’t always kill things. But when I do I generally get more shines than I do in the fraction of time I play compared to my main. I got an exotic named scepter I’ve never seen before from a random mob yesterday. From a champion bag from a champ in the harpy fractal, a monsoon. The week before that I had the scepter of the high born and a moonshank drop within an hour or so. From champ bags.
I don’t open exotics in champ bags on my main. I’m convinced there’s something fishy.
Now my main account isn’t cursed or anything. I’ve had a fair share of forged precursors and great dye luck. But I think when it comes to mob loot and champ loot, there’s some factor saying “has this player played for a while? Do we want to give them incentive to keep playing?” That sort of thing.
I’m pretty sure you can buy wintersday gifts to try to get the dwayna one but I’d recommend just buying that one. Lyssa will probably come back next gambit but it will likely go up in price until it reached a plateau.
My advice.
Wear whichever armour you want.
There is only a tiny part of the community who actually care about which armour the other guy is wearing in PvE.
The OP asked for optimal… so it’s that they wish to be optimal.
Thank you guys for your insight on the matter, so correct me if I’m wrong valkyrie/knight is the right set to learn a dungeon, berserker is the right set after you mastered it and/or if you are doing dungeons in an organized berserker group.
Is there much difference between the two sets in terms of damage ? I don’t want to end up slowing down my team but starting with berserker right off the bat is a bit intimidating lol.My advise, go full zerk from the start. Valk and Knight gear have their trade off besides damage.
IMHO, Valk will not increase survivality unless you are playing a class that gets high benefits from vitality (warrior, necro, ranger) and Knight will only “increase your aggro” (considering high toughness is one of the aggro gens in this game, like proximity or wearing a shield) if the rest is low on toughness meaning you will be hit more by autoattacks. Its relative to the class, play style, build… I think you will save gold and time if you learn to use zerk the hard way (its not that different in terms of survivality with valk or knight)
Hey look! Constructive! I knew it
Anyway like others have mentioned jumping in full berserker is fine too! I was not able to do it on my ele when I first began dungeon running, however this was my first game really and I didn’t have all that much experience with the combat. It just depends on where you’re at and what you feel comfortable in. I think with the amount of experience you have with the game (4 80s) you’re probably fine to jump in as a berserker. But the option of knights and valkyrie is fine to start off with if you feel it’s a better start (also if you have the gear already you aren’t wasting anything by using it). If you were thinking about buying the Knights and valk gear in order to try it, I’d say just get berserkers rather than wasting gold on training wheel gear.
inb4 zerk gear, zerk jewels, zerk weapon, zerk build or be called a phiw
inb4 posts, and being unconstructive is against the rules on the forum.
How many many maaaany times have you posted the very same way? at least I named what he was going to be advised on. Don’t be such a double standard. You do the same things on the forums and its not un-constructive. I’m actually saying, use zerk or you will be called PHIW. I’m I lying?
Yes. Because knights/valkyrie is considered a more survivable alternative that is good for people learning the dungeon mechanics.
So let me get this right… Valkyrie/Knight is not PHIW?
Nope its “play how you need to until you learn enough to not be a burden on your team”
Let me redefine my categories:
Cool players:
-Zerk
-PHYNTUYLETNBABOYT (valk/knight)Disgraced who should advertise in LFG like if they carry some kind of disease players:
-PHIW (the other zillion sets)(disclaimer, have some humor while reading, ok? it goes both ways)
There’s just gotta be a distinction between someone using a gear to learn the encounter and a person refusing to learn the encounter by using gear that makes his mistakes not matter. I’d take a noob in Valk gear any day so long as they are using it to learn the encounters in an active manner. So they see they missed a dodge and learn from that mistake without going down and harming the team.
inb4 zerk gear, zerk jewels, zerk weapon, zerk build or be called a phiw
inb4 posts, and being unconstructive is against the rules on the forum.
How many many maaaany times have you posted the very same way? at least I named what he was going to be advised on. Don’t be such a double standard. You do the same things on the forums and its not un-constructive. I’m actually saying, use zerk or you will be called PHIW. I’m I lying?
Yes. Because knights/valkyrie is considered a more survivable alternative that is good for people learning the dungeon mechanics.
So let me get this right… Valkyrie/Knight is not PHIW?
Nope its “play how you need to until you learn enough to not be a burden on your team”
inb4 zerk gear, zerk jewels, zerk weapon, zerk build or be called a phiw
inb4 posts, and being unconstructive is against the rules on the forum.
How many many maaaany times have you posted the very same way? at least I named what he was going to be advised on. Don’t be such a double standard. You do the same things on the forums and its not un-constructive. I’m actually saying, use zerk or you will be called PHIW. I’m I lying?
Yes. Because knights/valkyrie is considered a more survivable alternative that is good for people learning the dungeon mechanics.
No one has ticked me off! Haha Sil, I’m hard to displease.
inb4 zerk gear, zerk jewels, zerk weapon, zerk build or be called a phiw
How constructive. Come on Mesket, a little faith.
hey why can’t I use a chance like this to use a “inb4”! not like they are too many… but my constructiveness (?) is that he won’t find many advises besides zerk.
At this point I would suggest the same thing unless he wants to change gear later or ANet surprises us with new content.
Personally I feel like my response was not saying berserker all the way and was being constructive and helpful. I know you’re capable of being helpful (I’ve seen it!) But the snark should be posted once the discussion has run its course, rather than derailing the thread right off the bat. Does that make sense? I just feel like if we are expected to be a little more nice and welcoming so should everyone
inb4 zerk gear, zerk jewels, zerk weapon, zerk build or be called a phiw
How constructive. Come on Mesket, a little faith.
The most optimal is full berserker with the meta builds on each of those classes (apart from a couple classes who sprinkle in assassin’s gear, this is typically the case).
If you need more cushion for sort of “training wheels” (meaning that in the best possible way) knights and valkyries armor with berserker trinkets is a good way to go, I’d say.
Guys guys you’re stroking their egos too much haha.
And your’s too!
Wellllll… I wasn’t called a legend until AFTER the others were xD
That’s okay. My fashion is legendary.
Guys guys you’re stroking their egos too much haha.
Nah sandy you rocked. Period.
I think the fact that her pistol shot cannot be evaded (and require block/reflect) is utter BS, and should be looked into. I really cannot think of any other attacks in PvE where evade does not work.
CytoSlide – yeah, I hear you. With this new change, I think builds will just need to be re-evaluated though – more towards utility instead of dps.
- Elementalist: Focus Air 4 can cancel her shot, Focus Earth 5 can tank the hit, and Earth 4 can (probably) reflect?
- Warrior: Mace 2, Sword 5, and Shield 5 all can block her shots. These can even be traited for reflects, making the warrior a better dedicated pistol shot blocker/reflector than Mesmers!
- Guardian: Aegis, Wall of Reflection, Shield 5, Focus 5
- Mesmer: Focus 4, 5 (traited), Sword 4, Scepter 2, Feedback
- Thief: Smokescreen, Dagger Storm…
- Ranger: Axe 5 for reflect, GS 4 for block
- Necromancer: Death Shroud? =\So…most classes do have a few ways to deal with this new change – but it won’t be easy, and it will take skills and coordination to get it right. But hey, if PUG Arah can melee Lupi and stack reflects now, then I have faith in the FotM 50 community too.
Your best bet for ele is earth shield 2 block and the occasional 5 invuln. These are very reliable. I struggled to see her tell when she was very far away sometimes and horrik appeared to want to blast me with his cannon fairly often.
Also, as I experienced last night, having a fabulous mesmer also helps. ^^ Yay sandy!
Important stealth change: (or I missed it in the patch notes? Entirely possible!) It now tells you what you are going to pick up. Hooray! No more banners when I mean ice bow!
I don’t know how they did the scaling but I did notice a slight increase in damage even on the 11. If I missed the block, her conditions totally annihilated my eles health pool before I could cleansing fire. I went down every time despite dodging out of her attack and curing the conditions. I don’t recall it hitting that hard before, though it always hit hard, it definitely seemed to deal more damage and be far less forgiving to mistakes.
Update: I am now the most hated forumer worldwide.
You are? Guess I need to hate you too then, even though the frac run with you was pretty cool. Too bad.
he DC’d for pretty much EVERY bossfight and half of the encounters and he got a fractal dagger on A LEVEL 11 FRACTAL
You really are. You really really are.
dodging is for the weak, the strong just stop an axe with their teeth
The TVH strongness in that horse is over 9000, he can solo Arah path 5 with his tongue (?)
He just stares with his teeth bared and lupi just runs away.
dodging is for the weak, the strong just stop an axe with their teeth
If you dye it right you can probably make the cultural t1 look like ice spikes.
These are stunning! Very nice
Second story instance, I feel like killing myself.
It’s so challenging ! I die to retal.
This one time, for the first time ever, I landed a fiery rush lightning flash on bloomhunger while he had that spirit up. I died. Badly.
Well, tequila is made from agave.
…which is a Cactus. Http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave_tequilana
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