Guild Wars 2

I agree OP. So many thoughts going through my head right now on what to say but to be honest I’m sick to death of having to defend my class. I agree with some of the other posters that it can reward “bad” play, and so “bad” rangers (I really hate that word) are worse than say, “bad” warriors.

I love this class, and I won’t say it doesn’t need any work at all, but I am pretty happy with where we are at, if you know how to play. However, I will welcome changes to the class that promote other playstyles early on than "bearbow"ing. I hate to sound braggy, but just for example, I have been told numerous times what a great ranger/player I am, and how I genuinely surprise groups. Please don’t take that like I am some elitist, I’m just tired of it being assumed I am so horrible when people see a little paw print next to my image.

Yesterday I was in a marionette fight where, on the platform, 3+ members were in the downed state, and I was able to quickly pick them all up with nature spirit. Last night I was in a platform fight that was attacking the machine and ran out of time during this. In this group? An elementalist standing dead center and auto-attacking the champ, and nothing else. Probably would have won that had she hit any other skill as well. I have also seen players res a dead person before a downed person on the platform (really???)

Who gets the blame? Rangers.

I’m just tired of hearing constantly in map chat about how we should all just delete our characters. I have an 80 of all classes but thief and enjoy my ranger most. If the tables were turned, I’m sure many of you would hate your class being constantly bashed and kicked.

tldr: I’m bitter

Edit: Seeing some of these poss, I will also add myself to the group of rangers that regularly downs the Warden II boss just fine. I purposely pick lane 2 just because I know the mechanics and when I don’t, like to try for the other achievements, it seems like they fail more often. And yes of course I know it isn’t all me that is making or breaking that fight, but I figure the more people who do certain bosses they know how to take down, the more successful the boss fight. Obviously.

Doggie.3184:

They need to buff it to kill all the mobs and wildlife in the zone as well.

YES.

joeyw.9531:

Waiting for screenshots or streaming ?

This, a video would be a great learning tool for others

congrats guys, how was the loot?

Just going to c/p something I said in another thread….

Before the Teq update I remember seeing so many threads about how everything was too easy. Anet is trying to please their entire playerbase, including the people who wanted more hardcore content. There are still TONS of more casual friendly content out there, far outweighing the hard content. And this MMO, though it can be grindy and does include some hard content, is by far the most casual friendly MMO I have played.
If people killed these bosses as soon as they launched (didn’t marionette go down the first night?), we would see more people complaining that the LS content is always too easy. Hell, in my opinion, I still see marionette as pretty casual-friendly. There are really only two perma world bosses that have any real difficulty. One is still killed multiple times a day, the other was just released.
As said before, Anet is trying to please all groups of people, PVE and PVP, casual and hardcore, and just can’t win. Which is unfortunate, because in my own opinion, I think they did pretty well in doing so, and are continuing and improving this.
Edit: And just to add, I have not killed the wurm boss. I’m okay with this, and don’t expect to for quite some time, if ever. Let those people that get enjoyment out of coming up with specific strategies to complete puzzling and difficult content have their fun too. If it wasn’t fun for them, they would not be doing it.

I agree with the others. People wanted content that affected you when you lose, and we got it. Death is so trivial in this game compared to other MMOs. If you lost exp or there weren’t waypoints littered all over the game map, I would understand. But this was supposed to be a “real” threat that will kill us all if we fail.

Edit: Also I agree its funny, we should all learn to laugh a little more at wipes and not take pixellated deaths so seriously.

I bet a lot of this stuff gets returned when the big season 1 LS finale happens.

Scourge.4317:

PeterThomas.7243:

Lutinz.6915:

People complain there isn’t enough hard content in the game and the moment they add a hard fight people complain that the content is too hard.

Hmm, that’s funny, I don’t recall making this complaint at all…

Your previous post was about being a casual saying it was impossible for you to complete the tequatl like events. I’m not sure why you cant do it when all you have to do is guest to other servers. Ive completed it on my home server Ehmry Bay and on other servers as a guest. Its not impossible for anyone to do unless you are way below the level range of the area the event is in.

Lutinz is right. People wanted hard content and Arenanet created it. Now some want to say that its to hard. If they make it to easy people will zerg it and say its to easy. I’m not sure what they can do to please these people. The worm boss will be in game permanently so players have all the time in the world to learn the fight.

This. Before the Teq update I remember seeing so many threads about how everything was too easy. Anet is trying to please their entire playerbase, including the people who wanted more hardcore content. There are still TONS of more casual friendly content out there, far outweighing the hard content. And this MMO, though it can be grindy and does include some hard content, is by far the most casual friendly MMO I have played.

If people killed these bosses as soon as they launched (didn’t marionette go down the first night?), we would see more people complaining that the LS content is always too easy. Hell, in my opinion, I still see marionette as pretty casual-friendly. There are really only two perma world bosses that have any real difficulty. One is still killed multiple times a day, the other was just released.

As said before, Anet is trying to please all groups of people, PVE and PVP, casual and hardcore, and just can’t win. Which is unfortunate, because in my own opinion, I think they did pretty well in doing so, and are continuing and improving this.

Edit: And just to add, I have not killed the wurm boss. I’m okay with this, and don’t expect to for quite some time, if ever. Let those people that get enjoyment out of coming up with specific strategies to complete puzzling and difficult content have their fun too. If it wasn’t fun for them, they would not be doing it.

mricezombie.4560:

or has his or her own theory i’m glad to read it.

Ahem!

Actually, I don’t have another theory exactly… I used to think harder about these things but would just bum myself out knowing that the lore was probably not thought of that far out. This could or couldn’t be, I dunno, but here I go digressing…

ANYWAY! I can’t recall where I heard or read this, so I’m sorry I don’t have something to cite, but from what I understood, the norn believe the kodan descended from the norn just as the kodan believe the norn descended from the kodan. Maybe jotun involve both! Who knows!

You have a good theory, but as a biased norn lover, and as “jolly” as they are… I don’t much care for the depressing “exiled”, “horrid”, “seeking forgiveness” tribe that your theory seemed to suggest, unless I am just reading too much into it.

The medium t3 looks unique. If I remember right, light is shared with humans and then yeah, the basic heavy icon…

Does she spawn at the same time across servers?

HykCraft.4610:

Umm.. just did Jormag a few nights ago on SF…. I think you just missed out.

Hm… it has been a few days since I played. Ill check it out tonight, but he had been that way for a while.

We’re having the same problem on sorrows furnace. Jormag just loops his landing animation constantly… been like 2 weeks or so.

Funny! I always love finding out little jokes like this. My boyfriend and I have run the foulbear chain so many times, but only last week did I notice the door is busted down by an ogre named “Khulaid”…. had a chuckle at that.

(incase anyone doesn’t understand, Kool-aid, “OH YEAHHH!” Dude always busting through walls in commercials.)

I know, that’s why I said-

Though I know to take that with a grain of salt and that doesn’t automatically mean “OMG BUBBLES IS COMING”.

Just wondered where that basis came from.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Lindelle.3718:

Something that has kind of been bothering me lately. I started playing this game in beta and was around for the Southsun release and the first kind-of-sort-of living story release with the karka invasion. I remember they were “pushed to the land because of the influences of an elder dragon.” Or something, correct me if I’m wrong.

You’re dropping assumptions (good ones though). It was said the karka are not something used to be found here, based on what I recall the largos saying when you interviewed one. “Something had to have pushed them here.” It could be an Elder Dragon (Bubbles? Zhaitan’s minions?) or something else acting up (Tequatl?) or just the change in the world catching up with their normal migratory habits.

But.. was that it? I’ve ignored a few LS events because I occasionally get burned out caring, though I wish I found them more engaging. Did that ever get touched upon again? Or is there still some mystery here? Or did it just literally get scrapped for the Scarlet thing?

Something did take place on Southsun but it wasn’t about the karka as much as it was about Canach using what he knew about Southsun and its flora/fauna to make trouble for the Consortium (and the Refugees).

Hm… I could swear I remember hearing “Elder Dragon” references during that time. And when I checked the wiki I got-

“The karka are aquatic creatures from the depths of the Unending Ocean that have recently been forced onto the surface of Tyria by an Elder Dragon, after the defeat of Zhaitan by Pact forces.¹ They settled onto Southsun Cove and created a large hive on the volcanic island.”

Though I know to take that with a grain of salt and that doesn’t automatically mean “OMG BUBBLES IS COMING”. I guess I just find it strange it seems that story got left behind. Or who knows, maybe it will be involved in the ending of this LS season, though at this point I don’t get my hopes up for that anymore.

I just wasn’t sure if others actually had the answer and I didn’t know it, or if it is still that “mystery.”

Something that has kind of been bothering me lately. I started playing this game in beta and was around for the Southsun release and the first kind-of-sort-of living story release with the karka invasion. I remember they were “pushed to the land because of the influences of an elder dragon.” Or something, correct me if I’m wrong.

But.. was that it? I’ve ignored a few LS events because I occasionally get burned out caring, though I wish I found them more engaging. Did that ever get touched upon again? Or is there still some mystery here? Or did it just literally get scrapped for the Scarlet thing?

Damash.1074:

Lindelle.3718:

I thought this looked familiar…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/races/norn/Make-me-Norn

still haven’t decided?

You really do your research ey? Even i forgot about that post… xD
But yes… stil havent decided… It looks links i have toe change my preferences… Man i tot some serious problems ging on in my had ;]

Didn’t really research… norn forums just move extremely slowly and I remembered reading that before, that’s all.

I thought this looked familiar…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/races/norn/Make-me-Norn

still haven’t decided?

I use-

http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONNames.shtml

http://www.20000-names.com/male_norse_names.htm

(And a really good site for name formation with prefix and suffixes, but the site is down. I’ll come back and edit this if it returns)

I main a norn ranger. Her name is Lindelle Ulfdis. Lindelle is just a common handle I use in MMOs and I thought it worked well enough as a first name. The second is “Wolf Goddess/Seer.” Same as you, I chose wolf and actually collect wolfy things on my ranger, and I went with Goddess as more of a ‘beauty’ reference. So just an example, luckily there are a lot of routes to go.

And shape shifting!

I don’t know if this is any different… but I remember seeing a while back that if you talk to her as a sylvari, she has NO CLUE what you are? And she still thinks LA is run by pirates (backed up by what BalkanLion said)

I haven’t done the new stuff yet… I won’t lie, this title got my hopes up. :P

Moshari.8570:

Cerai.9741:

Exactly! In a largely cooperative game like guild wars, our differences are what make us strong as a group. Diversity in both skills and appearance set us aside and make each player feel special. When you release an armor that was a challenge to get for cash you are breaking one of gaming’s golden rules. That rule is:

1. Respect the players time.

By taking what WAS a significant effort and trivializing it you are being outright disrespectful to my efforts. It’s not welcome.

I’m sorry, but where were you guys when all of us Fractal runners started complaining about our time being thown away by them getting rid of our levels. I see a lot of the same people complaining here about T3 that only yesterday were telling us Fractal runners that our time was worthless…it was only a number. Well, looks are meaningless also, they add nothing to your stats, nor do they affect your skill as a player.

Many of us complaining on the fractal number loss were saying exactly this, that it becomes a slippery slope. If they do not believe our time is worth anything, then there is nothing that they cannot change / take away from us…whether it is Fractal level, or T3 cultural, or Legendary.

I have everything for my legendary but the pre-cursor…but have actually been delaying doing anything with it because I fear that even this will go away….that 2 weeks after I buy my pre-cursor and make my legendary they will release the new legendaries that will have better stats, look cooler, and make the one I ground for worth-less.

I think I still have faith in the devs, and I think I still have faith in the game…but things like that make me really wonder…

Agree with this completely, these have been my exact thoughts since this release.

Yeah this is getting old… I have been playing this game since beta and I have always supported A-net and tried to play devil’s advocate for decisions that may not have been popular.

TA path getting blinked out from existence. Sucks, but whatever… my fractal levels being reset to 30 and the leaderboard fiasco. Again, sucks, but I’ll live. Pretty much everything to do with Scarlet. Now we are selling old skins that include one that is supposed to be the end-all of human armor skins? Come on A-net… that is disappointing. I’m having a really hard time trying to stick up for these decisions anymore.

Edit: Just remembered the craziness with the last armor sets released as well. Groan…

Just saw this… finally! Thanks A-net!

I guess I’m one of the fewer people that don’t really have problems in JPs or other areas as a norn. But I have also mained a max height one since launch, so I think I’m just more used to it. I actually just finished an asura main and had a really hard time with jumping because I wasn’t used to being so small!

I’d say just go with what you really want to do. Unless you are crazy about the jumping puzzles, the rest won’t really even affect you. And even with the JPs, they can all still be done on a max height norn.

With the competitive nature of gamers (well, humans in general really) I feel like the leaderboards are just going to have the same few names. Perhaps I’m grossly simplifying it, but there will likely be a small handful of awesome groups that decide they want 50 nonstop, and they are the only names we see on the board.

Maybe I’ll be wrong.

My favorite race, I stalk these forums… but never posted in here before, so why not! (Some awesome looking norn here as well!)

Lindelle Ulfdis… my ranger main since beta.

Duthorian.3589:

thanks for the reply i picked up wolf spirit is that fine? because i feel that raven is more for necromancer and bear warrior/guardian, leopard ranger/thief

Yup, and pretty much what Dustfinger said. While you could see Snow Leopard for a ranger, I actually picked Wolf for mine. Loyalty, ferocity, strength in numbers… all that jazz.

On page 4 in this forum I have a “what’s your spirit totem and why?” thread that I adored reading (wish it had more replies.) It was really cool to see how some people viewed their norn in the lore and associated it with one of the Spirits. Just a perfect example that pretty much anything can be done if you think on it.

I guess I felt the opposite. As in, if nothing was up in the air and what’s done is done, they would just tell us so we aren’t constantly asking about it. No answers and “were reading and gathering feedback” to me says that maybe there will be something small changed. Maybe just a little reward chest compensation or something. Of course I’m probably just being naive and you’re right, its already over. :p

With all of the controversy around this whole leaderboard and reset thing, and the silence regarding what may or may not be done about it… it would be nice if maybe we at least got some info on what the leaderboards (the reason us 30+ folk are bumped down) are supposed to include?

I mean I don’t like the lack of answers any more than the next person, but I understand why it might be hard to give us an answer right now if its still in discussion. But an answer on form leaderboard information maybe?

g e o.2589:

If you listen carefully to uncategorized asuran boss he says “All of us, Abandoned, you are not real” if you look also around closely it is rata sum. It blows up in the future and that asura is the only one remaining. for others, do not know, Urban is Ascalon War, Collosus – dunno, have no idea about underwater, for Ice fractal, SoS can open mists portals so they might have gone themselves there. Swamp – no idea.

This was a really popular theory but a dev already debunked it. It is not rata sum and its in the past. I’d share the link but I’m on my phone and its kind of a pain, but it should be easy to find in the lore forums. But now that they did state it isn’t rata sum… I’m even more curious. Thaumanova runoff maybe?

Then that is no true norn woman!

A real norn woman would drunkenly snuggle up to her drunken mate as well.

Welcome to the game! And good job picking the BEST race!

You can fit ele into norn lore in many ways. I myself have a norn elementalist (and norn ranger, guard, thief…) I went with a shaman-esque feel worshipper of Raven. Raven is good if you want to go with something with a more scholarly feeling I suppose. I have also known some who choose Bear because eles can be seen as raw individual power?

I mean really, the nice thing with the lore here is it can be bent pretty well. I’ve seen some people argue that thieves and necros make no sense for norn. There was a great blog story about a norn thief who worshiped Snow Leopard a while back. I have seen plenty of norn necro NPCs in game (IIRC, the raven havroun is a necro.)

I would say that any race and class is doable if you put some thought into it. The lore here is expansive and can be shaped easily to fit what you’d like.

Edit: Some images! Heck, I forgot there is a norn ele wallpaper as well.

You’re a charr, I would hope as another race who is known to drink heavily, you’d know sometimes you don’t always make it to the bed.

I don’t think this guy was illogical, he just had a good time at the moot.

I’ll also add myself to this thread as an experienced helper. Feel free to hit me up, playing lower level fractals again would be fun and a nice change from the 48’s.

Edit: I’m on NA servers

JMar.3254:

SkyChef.5432:

I’m really puzzle at people’s moral compass. It seems that they do not understand the “who is next” principle. It’s not OK to do that to a majority but it’s OK to do it to a minority? Wow.

Exactly. This could happen in PvP, WvW, character level.

Every time I say “how would it feel if your [insert one above] was reset” the reply is always “It’s different” or they ignore it.

It shouldn’t be okay for the company that made the design mistake to punish the players for it.

I’ve been pretty much silent reading this thread, but I feel at this point I will pop up and say “I agree.” This is not the first time we are seeing something just get deleted (TA f/u anyone? And that was recent!) Its true, it is easy to say “that’s different” right now when the analogies are given.

While I know there are some under 30 who don’t like the idea of people losing those levels, and I know there are some above 30 that are ok with it… it still seems clear that for the most part, those under 30 are the “this is fine with me” group, and the ones above are the “no, this is not okay” group. I mean yeah this is obvious, but I’m still stating it.

So what about when your ideal/challenging/fun niche in this game is partially deleted? Be is WvW, sPvP, Dungeons, skin collecting, whatever. Is it still different? What with the outrage when the TA path was lost (still don’t know why the new one wasn’t just added as a fourth path) and now this… if it continues to happen, well, I guess I’m just saying this is a slippery slope. And needs to stop.

Metion.9541:

The trailer got me very excited for the next update.
Too bad they made a video for new content but did not show any of this. Nevertheless one of the best trailers ANet has made so far!

Going to state since a lot of people don’t know, the video was actually made for the original fractal release but was not ready in time (or something) so they just sat on that video until a good fractal update. Hence, none of the new fractals are present.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Best-trailer-ever/first#post3227234

I actually got chills when the grawl shaman threw the human into ‘the soup’! AMAZING trailer! I agree the transitions were flawless.

Tarn.1374:

Just checked at the Bear’s Jaw Shrine in the Dredgehaunt Cliffs, and Shaman Lorna there speaks about ‘even a group of fighters would struggle against spirit bear’s strength’. From the way she talks it makes me think (e.g. lack of capitalisation of ‘bear’) this isn’t true ‘Bear’ as such. In addition the spirit that comes is simply named a ‘veteran bear spirit’. Bear herself would surely be immensely greater!

Yeah I actually did this map completion for the first time in a while yesterday and noticed it was only ‘Veteran Bear Spirit.’ Wish we could see the others!

Thanks for the responses guys! Apparently the one I was missing is the same one you mentioned, Ceallach. Strange because I could SWEAR I got that one, I had kept double checking each floor.

Well I guess issue resolved, thanks all!

Not sure if I’m missing something here, I haven’t heard of this being problem yet… but I have completed ever single achievement in this LS except this one. No matter what, I am stuck at 8/9. I have not only run up to but also entered each chamber more than once (I have looked at Dulfy’s guide for the locations.)

I am right now going through the tower yet another time to check each chamber. Has anyone else heard of this? Or is one location really tricky that maybe I really have not done it?

RedCobra.7693:

that doesnt make sense, it was obvious she was primary from the start

I think it was a joke regarding the primary colors.

Its a shortened version of a hairstyle we do have available (I forget the number.) The very long ponytail that is a little curly? A lot of norn hairstyles were lengthened upon release. For example, the ponytail with the braids at the sides (#1 I think?) used to have a much shorter version. If you walk around Hoelbrak or check out some NPCs in the very beginning of wayfarer (near the TP) you can actually still see these.

So, if it was up to me, I would still use that same hair, just accept that it is longer. I use it on my norn theif as well, looks great!

Edit: Old creation video that has the shortened styles, including a style we never got.

I think the particular hairstyle is at 6:34

Glad to see a thread like this, I was going to make one myself had this not been here. I am really curious how the personal stories come into this.

A few things of mine that has not already been mentioned by someone else-

Rescued a ‘Wolf Shaman’ on my wolf-revering norn.
Picked “blacked out” story for norn, no screenie but Scarlet said “Gonna black out again? You sure impressed the Gear Warband last time.”

bAss ackwards.7205:

My Necromancer!

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Hah! I remember you from City of Heroes… assuming you are the same one. (Flame Enchantress)

and nice necro

Can’t pick just one screenie!

I suppose now that I took the time to actually take good screenies, I’ll post here!

Course I can’t pick just one

townsclothing or armor.. i would buy the wolf one in a heartbeat