Guild Wars 2

To tell the truth its possibly not even a bug.

Prefractured you randomly had harder fractals.

This is possibly the fourth time i post it but you randomly had fractals with increased damage and mob spawns you usually didn t have:

example:
you had bats in lava rocks corridor in lava fractals
you had huge dredge zergs roaming just near spawnpoints
and many other stuff

It didn t impact boss damage, just everything else.

It was usually coupled with damage increase.

Since fractured, the spawn changes disappeared…but some weird dps increase from trash mobs etc is still there (and have nothing to do with instabilities).

And once again is not “a guess”.

Eviscera.9703:

Come back to me when you can roam with sizer in WvW.

I can just open pvp forum and read everywhere “www is not pvp” or “www is pve” and similar comments

But now they changed their mind and went all to www and for some reason they lose fights…..

(or more possibly most pvpers don’t play www at all…).

FenrirSlakt.3692:

LordByron.8369:

50.000 tentacle attack…
Something is bugged.

I will refrain from calling bs, as you might be actually telling the truth, but I will also refuse to believe this without any sort of proof, namely a screenshot.

Well since there are many threads about that….
i am not really interested about your beliefs.

I m more interested that the people who can verify easily (see Devs) checks it.
Because its easily noticeable in some lower levels runs.

Aside the fact that is almost proven (reddit) that even droprates are totally bugged and almost everyone goes 3X because 50 never drops anything…

The problem is your pvp players don t play www ._. i guess.
We won many extremely outnumbered fights while roaming Yesterday and your roamers gave up after 2 hours in deso border.

Those weren t pvp players for sure. (and i guess they were mostly pve players).
I know deso have good pvp players but possibly they don t like pvp…. (also megaservers :/ makes pve and pvp “identity” quite bland).

Blind cooldown is global

That means it procs randomly whenever you hit something.
If you hit a wall, a phantasm and a player, you will probably waste the effect.

It means also the trait will be weak against any pet profession (necro/mesmer/ranger etc)

When i considered the trait i went with these:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_Balthazar

If deso keeps playing with a single or double server blob.
You can t complain other servers wichever they’ll be and in any tier, will just PvDoor your unattended stuff while you lose hours to kill small zergs that have the only job to slow your blobs down..

Afaik is the same issue you have since months ….but only recently you decided to complain about doubleteaming.

Fact is if you don t defend your stuff and you play with few slow huge blobs, you can t complain of proper counterplay.

I m an ele my i win “button” is:
Lightning flash=> updraft=> attune to fire=> fire 3-4…wait for evade 5=> earth 4-2 and maybe some air 1111

-.-

Kaleban.9834:

LordByron.8369:

Kaleban that would kill DD istantly.

At that point even without stealth almost every class could exit a fight at will against DD ele.

1200 is mandatory.

How… exactly?

A range of 300 on one movement skill is an entire weapon set “killer”?

easy:
Your opponent use any 1200 range movement skill and he is out of range from DD…GG.

I love the fire trait on paper…

The horror when i discovered it hits everything like doors, walls, bridges, trees and invisible objects everywhere….

Its cool in 1vs1 but since ele’s weakness is indeed XvsX the fire trait won t help.

Btw the signets could…
I like it on paper except i could never go www with 1700 base power .-. and a signet of spite will eat you alive.

Idea is really good it needs tweaking.

P.S. its a global 5 seconds ICD that means you will waste your blind on eveything random (against a mesmer is awful).

50.000 tentacle attack…
Something is bugged.

As i said sometimes damage is totally awkward since at 20 you can have mobs hitting for more than 50.

And the fact you can actually win the fractals anyway is not a good excuse to not fix it.

No actually there is NO EXCUSE.

Should be fixed as fast as the mesmer interrupt was at least.

This is way more gamebreaking of letting few players have fun (and that build didn t impact on clearing speed)….

Stresshead you are not much familiar with www maybe.

But if a T3 server is sieged by 2 attackers (happen constantly as it happen on stonemist etc), attackers will never fight until one of the 3 server is totally wiped.

In case of a garrison attackers won t possibly never fight because due to the short distance from defender WP, both of them have all interest in clearing the T3.

Doing differently would result in a gift to defenders and possible proof of doubleteaming notg against but on side with the defender

I ll try again.

Unless you think that desolation suddenly got the stronvgest server in GW2 history, there is no way for a server to recover points during a 2VS1.

If deso can suddenly fight equally SFR+BB then (look at ppt evolution) then its working as intended.

But the fact is no server could ever do that.
But out of curiosity….doesn t deso have a server forum to discuss this stuff?
I guess deso veteran would have explained you that

It happened frequently in deso-sfr-viz matchups.

haviz.1340:

oZii.2864:

Oooo so vague and mysterious!. Apparently it’s more with a mistfire wolf since I said apparently I’m stating this as fact obviously.

Are you always responding like that? No, I was not joking, just stating that 6th bonus works always in pve.

They wrote they fxed it some Patches ago…
Did the mess up again?

Behellagh.1468:

That devs can’t control players to prevent them from giving potential earnings away to another?

The most difficult part of PvE aka Fractals drop accound bound exotics and ascended.
Also account bound skins.

Even the fractal T7 materials, the recipes and everything else is.

If you enter fractals you exit with stuff tied to your account mostly.
You cna t sell them you can t give for free.

They tried to make you get some gold from using your fractal rewards via crafting.
They failed since they made sure to include rare T6 in recipes so you still need to feed the TP.

That the reduction of champ coin rewards didn’t come at the same time as the removal of the armor repair costs?
Or that the two are balanced?

How often do you repair armor in dungeon?
once in 5 runs? or less?

Or is it that the devs can only control new coin being introduced into the game world?

Unless you prove me that TP is the only possible gold sink in a game i won t agree.
TP may be a gold sink but impcat the game economy in a negative way.

I understand you object to the fact that a few can take earn significantly more money simply benefiting off of the majority’s poor TP habits. You believe that the majority is being swindled by this minority. That this minority, through the wealth they accumulated is ratcheting up the cost of popular items to earn even more wealth. Except only by using a tool that everyone has equal access too and just using it smarter than most. And that’s somehow unfair.

I didn t say that.
I don t care how much oney do you earn.

I have some issues when to enter WWW i have to gift money to you because you bought all the runes as the live interview was released.

I have an issues with dev not fighting this behavior introducing recipes and stuff since they are really fast to decrease supply (see silk)…but NEVER do anything for the lack of.

I have a huge issue when development design apis to let people play the TP without logging in game and in the meantime negates US any way to get what we need out of the TP.

TL/DR
Why are you trying to discuss stuff i never said to prove me wrong?

http://gw2wvw.org/
Proofs there is no doubleteaming (deso is ticking more PPT than both BB and SFR).

Unless deso is suddenly able to best 2 servers alone.

Now lets get back to the thread.

This isn t a matchup thread and you can disprove your theory looking at vids on WWW matchup forum.

I struggle to believe SFR will risk his 1st place to help BB.
Vids on WWW forum seems to prove again the opposite.

last time i was on WWW i fought BB only for 4 out of 5 hours…then deso blob arrived.

Also remember how you get gifted 4000 points by a bug in BB tower that is uncappable until reset.

And still isn t fixed :<

That is game breaking expecially for T1 (already reported).

Lian Olsam.9541:

LordByron.8369:

I would say its so fun seeing PvP players in fractals after they complained on how easy pve is.

Not that PvE is so hard, but i don t think pvp is either.

We could also call pvp players to kill the 3 wurms and tequatl. Few of them would surely be enough since they are so skilled.

P.S. being serious, 1HKo PvE system helps a lot gettng better at PvP also.
You learn to look for skill tells and evade them and to stay focused.

mind is different…. i play both pve (dungeons fotm lvl 50 etc etc) and spvp (rank 64, reached only with tournament, not hj) so i know both worlds…. in pve the goal is reach a goal like hight lvl fotm or farming some content, for farmin u should just hit much enemies as possible, and in fotm and dungeon u should just found a good corner to stack with others and know when to dodge, in spvp u have to know very well your class and others cause u have to take the right choice when u have an enemies, if u front an ele u should take a decision, if u find a war you should choose other skills… in spvp you have to coordinate with team mate, and first of all you should be motivated to improve yourself… i’ve found alot of ppl that told me “who care to win” this is not serius and ruin a game for ppl that wanna have a good pvp…. too many ppl stay on free point for cap it, when i say go they stay there for farm points… i should continue my list for hours… pve and spvp is different anyone can learn anything, but ppl purpose is different, and since the patch it was released, soloq it was destroyed

You are right on cordination.
You are wrong on the fact is different.

A PvE fractal player (doesn t stack) will possibly learn fast to recognize any profession tell, CD and mechanic, also to not waste evasions.

That is at least a 30% of the skill needed for PvP.

PvE is not as easy as you think.

If you had things like lava font dealing 14.000 per tick as fast as it appears, or a warrior GS autoattack hitting for 9000, this forum would implode.

The awful AI is balanced with such numbers, but in the end you learn to react fast and the learn tells fast.

Those afaik are part of the required skills for any PvP game.

It also means good PvE players are probably potential good PvP players with some training and you should help them instead of complaining.

Since gw2 PvP is not that deep.

Time ago ranger gave simply a flat 7% if i remember that (due to a bug).

Kaleban that would kill DD istantly.

At that point even without stealth almost every class could exit a fight at will against DD ele.

1200 is mandatory.

Wich class? the one that needs the rune of strength to outdamage the healing signet or the Warriors posting how bad a 7% damage increase is?
:)

Behellagh.1468:

For the love of Mike. Champ bags and like rewards inject NEW coin into the game’s economy. If you want to keep true inflation under control then your two choices is limit new coin entering the game or take more coin out through one of the sinks. In this case they balanced both sides of the equation by removing the repair cost sink while reducing the champ coin reward.

The Devs can control what a event rewards. They can’t control players who are willing to “pay” another (by accepting less) to sell the rewards they received for more coin.

This was disproven so many times i am tired of reposting it.
This post is only the propaganda from the TP Church.

There are several example to gold sinks… TP flipping is simply the worst.
Also balancing TP flipping wouldn t remove it but simply avoiding to inflate gold by wealth concentration.

You see a broken economy when people starts doing experiments wasting dozen thousands gold while Others struggle to get few hundred.

if you think this games have no gold sinks play some WWW.

Excessive Demand is never balanced…
That is the problem

If you need something you can t realistically obtain it without the TP and you have to feed the leeches on the TP.

Ask people in WWW that needed runes.

haviz.1340:

oZii.2864:

I haven’t tested it myself there was a thread on reddit one of DnT’s guides. Someone asked what is a option for Mesmer and Nike said Rune of Ranger is good for Ranger’s and Mesmers. I asked him if the 6/6 worked for Mesmer’s he said seems it does. Not sure if it is fixed or a bug but this was a few days after the patch.

Runes of the ranger gives you +7% dmg increase while having a minipet.

Oh well they are useless then since it would obviously be a bug.

Aedrion.6483:

People often say that elementalist is either bunker and do nothing or zerker and die in a breeze. Untrue. Elementalists can be middle of the road and still rock. !

People who says this refers to WWW obviously.
Skill is not applied when your opponent has little interest defending a point and instead can escape at will with no downside and no way to follow him.

Obviously it has something to do with RTL and dagger that was nerfed to prevent ele to do what most other profession do normally.

Paavotar.3971

Melandru runes: You can counter the -condi with +condi, same thing for the stun.

You don t even try….
You can counter 7% damage with more HP or thoughness.

Bloodwort MacFangho.4638:

From around 2PM, Deso night force kicks in, lasts until about 8:30AM BST, then dies off until maybe 4PM BST.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/15/

Clearly shows deso getting a huge boost from 3:20 AM to 10 AM.

That is night in Europe not primetime. (GMT+1)

The exact opposite you said.

I would say its so fun seeing PvP players in fractals after they complained on how easy pve is.

Not that PvE is so hard, but i don t think pvp is either.

We could also call pvp players to kill the 3 wurms and tequatl. Few of them would surely be enough since they are so skilled.

P.S. being serious, 1HKo PvE system helps a lot gettng better at PvP also.
You learn to look for skill tells and evade them and to stay focused.

@Phys
Best post ive red on TP forum possibly.

Pve players playing all night and morning in www?

And PvE players would rather go Killing doliak and turning camps since you complete zerg achievements in really few days.

Something happened last 2 days about deso www population and coverage.

Still no angel or archangel wings >.<
give me archangel wings please.

This thread shows some real proble of official forum.
So many misinformations.

The cap exists due to technical limitations of servers, expecially WWW.
It was already stated many times by developers.

There is no balance reason behind them.

Ozii do really mesmer runes works for mesmer?
In the wiki it says the opposite.

@paavotar:
What about melandru runes?
What about hoelbrack?
No counterplay.
What about Water runes?

90% runes have passive bonuses why only power runes are OP now?

Actually if you look at what is happening i’d say many french went to deso.

There are only 3 servers having a huge increase in PPT last days:

Vizuna, Jade Sea and Desolation.
Sfr is outmanned for most of the day…but things will change soon since other holidays could revert the situation.

Exactly.
Your benefit comes at other players cost.
The focus on the TP is so high that People can with few hours Investments get ahead of any other players.

But lets nerf champ bags in istances, WWW and open PvE…its for sure the best choice.

i tried Q_Q.
I cast FGS, and then i transform
I have 2 results.

1) cast interrupted
2) conjured dropped

Used mistery quggan tonic and the Christmas tonic (doliak with FGS would be OP).

Didn t try to pick up… i ll try ty.

That if you try to go balanced you achieve no damage and no defense.
(mostly PvE and WWW).

You can also get 100% burning uptime.
And you can get many other buffs.

These (and other) runes helps power builds.
Power builds got a 20-30% DPS (not crit chance) nerf without runes and sigils.

This means that those runes helps power builds to recover some dps.
But they also helps by far more both tanky and condition builds in term of dps reducing the difference between, glass cannons and the Others.

While its quite good for tank and balanced builds its only an issue on condition builds.

Don t look at runes alone.
Look at the Whole patch

90% runes/sigils if put in prepatch game would be brokenly OP.
But they nerfed something to buff something other.

2 questions please.
How can you use FGS with quaggan o.o?
and how can you throw lightning with quaggan?

Are you using a special tonic?

Since the fractal drop increase i got 0 decent drops from higher level.
Reason why everyone is playing lower levels.

Could also be DR….who knows..but since even this patch they stealth buffed dredges i guess they are trolling fotm players.

Kiba.9701:

Hawly.6541:

One that requires skill, that is difficult to master, but once you get the hang of it, you become a monster.

Yo are talking about the Thief. Elementalist d/d is great too but not that hard master.

I think the dozen posts in WWW section on how any beginner can be effective with thief will prove you wrong.
The posts about elementalists will prove you wrong twice.

Thief= simply immortal….you can t kill something able to both become invisibile on demand and having best mobility in game and no CD.
Even a dev once said you can t kill thieves, you can only make them run away….

Ele= nerfed mobility, huge cooldowns and no survival mechanic…0 room for mistakes.
If you go tank you can be effective…only at surviving :|
The unbalanced status of WWW means that if you don t have DPS you won t kill anything.

Even staff zerg meta switched to DPS making ele more interesting.

Paavotar.3971:

oZii.2864:

So which is it you have a problem with the extra 15% might duration over other runes or the 7% damage bonus? You know it use to give 5% so your telling me that +2% damage buff when every power build received a crit damage nerf is huge? You aren’t playing with your old levels of damage even in s/tPvP. The 2% extra damage buff it received probably doesn’t make up for the crit damage you use to have. The might stacks let you get that damage back but it takes build up you don’t have it at the start. Front loaded vs backloaded and removable damage vs your old permanent damage levels.

The problem with the rune set in my mind is that it increases might duration by a huge 45% which makes might stacking really easy without much additional boon duration. 30% would be better here.

I have also a bit of problem with the hit proc that you get 10s (actually 14,5s with runes own duration add) pretty much every 5s. Thats one low CD right there, compare it to the Rune of Rage which has the same proc expect its 15s of fury with 30s CD. Maybe increase the CD into 15s or atleast 10s so you have a bit harder time to keep the sixth bonus up with only the runes or if someone strips your boons.

Then the 7% damage increase. I suppose it could stay as is, the 2% reduction I was thinking wouldn’t change that much, but I wouldn’t mind seeing it a bit lower.

All in all, I think it gives a tad too much.

And you can see other runes do the same with chilling, fire, defense, and much more.

Simply the ferocity nerf push people into a search for the lost DPS and this was theeasier answer.

For example i don t get all people getting these runes and then using lemongrass in WWW….

MightyMicah.7451:

The problem is our diversity. If they add a slight amount of extra damage, Ele’s can stretch it for miles and create an insane nuking build. If they give us a slight amount of extra survivability, Ele’s again run with it for miles and create some invincible bunker. It’s a sticky situation, honestly.

exactly like i said.

Our damage comes from traits…
Thus we can t really have a balanced allaround build.
We are either full dps, bunkers or useless. :|

Wondered why we got more build diversity last patch?
Stats were nerfed on profession/builds and put into runes/sigil.

That gave us a little push.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

ICEing.9237:

I’m tired of seeing ppl getting rich from playing the TP like this is Wall Street Wars 2.
In reality I’m just jealous I don’t know how to invest. But still it’s ridiculous.

This is one of the most honest posts that I’ve seen in a while. It pretty much sums up 100% of the complaint threads in the trading forum. Kudos to you.

And you are wrong.

I have more gold than i need…but i am tired of see guildies and friends leave due to the broken economy.

Maybe John should show them the hidden data that proves that economy is great….because they didn t see that.

P.S. also flipping makes *cheap" stuff easier to buy…while the expensive is pushed out of range.
Don t pretend you don t know about all the fake offers.

The balance changes already directly proven you wrong twice.
You clearly have something against power builds in general as it can be deduced from your posts.

So adding astract views like “missed opportunity” and passive effect are wrong.

A 7% increase under the effect of might doesn t do dps alone.
It needs you to land skills thus can t be passive.

Passive is armor, thoughness and HP…and also some conditions.

It even has the might when hit, that is more efficient on defensive builds since offensive can t fight for long when hit.

No …
Ele needs more skills damage and less traits damage.

Actually the kitten version of cats are way worse than mini cats
I’d get tabby for 800 gems >.> i m not taking the ugly kitten for 500.

Its still possible.
RTL CD oly hurts offensive side.

You can still run away with it.
What prevents ele to use it as before is the decreased range already.

1 Lightning rod
Its fun and i use it in www.

2 Blinding ashes
Potentially fun but underpowered due to bad design (you can hit structures, pets and similar…).

3 Stone heart
Don t like it being on earth trait, it could be a nice active defence if the game didn t have evades already.

4 aquatic benevolence
Doesn t matter if it works or not.
Its contrary to game design to push ANY profession into the healer role.

5 elemental contingency
Useless

Carighan.6758:

But in a MMO?
Plenty changes in MMOs I’ve played since EQ1 have been aimed at Mr and Ms Average. And for good reason, these players are usually surprisingly more invested in your game and experience more of it’s content. Despite being the less hardcore of players and caring less about it.
It’s part of the genre.

But there’s another thing which instead rears it’s head: game modes.
Strength runes are very much the go-to for most builds in PvE now, depending on who you play with and who stacks might in your party. This shows that for a power-based setup, they’re quite too strong. Whether a power-setup needs help or not in sPvP is nearly irrelevant then, because really, shouldn’t balance a gear stat around a single rune set.

For PvE.
In most case strength are better for Mr average.
While Others still use scholar and similar….
Prepatch the meta was identical with much less viable runes and we also have the economic version of strength losing only 7%.

Also you promoted the nerfs of the other viable alternative (crit damage runes)…and your post is again a pile of contradictions..
Or did you change your mind?

For WWW
While every single rune/sigil have been buffed, offensive runes slightly compensate for the damage loss from ferocity nerfs (near 20% considering food and traits), and still give an opportunity to power builds against a condibunker meta that got buffs without nerfs.

For PvP.
Capturing points can’t be the balance focus, being a small part of the game its ruining the other game modes.

Quite lazy copy of the mini White kitten that wasn t even that good.
Orange tabby and chauncy von snuffles III are still way better.