Guild Wars 2

NinjaEd.3946:

Manekk.6981:

NinjaEd.3946:

Too bad its not a stun breaker. I mean it gives you stability, but I guess it’d be a little too much in 1 skill.

I’d be ok with dropping the speed bonus for it to break stun O.o

Stunbreaker with a slow cast then xD I’d drop the speed too for instant cast and stunbreaker (not the least since i’ve never experienced this speed xD)

The way speed works in this game is the highest bonus is applied, nothing stacks. So if you have +50% from super speed and swiftness, you’ll only be effected by super speed for its duration and then swiftness will take over afterwards. So that 25% is there, you just rarely will experience it on a ranger on certain builds (a lot of swiftness on ranger kit).

Yes you are not the first person in this thread that has explained how speed boons work in this game, I already knew that before he said it, and if you’d read my previous reply to this you would know that I have specifically tested signet of the wild without any speed enhancements at all to see if it in fact does apply a speed boost to the ranger, it does NOT or atleast it does not to me perhaps this is a bug for norn rangers I don’t know but I will test it on my human aswell just to see.

NinjaEd.3946:

Too bad its not a stun breaker. I mean it gives you stability, but I guess it’d be a little too much in 1 skill.

I’d be ok with dropping the speed bonus for it to break stun O.o

Stunbreaker with a slow cast then xD I’d drop the speed too for instant cast and stunbreaker (not the least since i’ve never experienced this speed xD)

DeceiverX.8361:

Read the last line again. Your in-combat movespeed is capped at 125%.

So if you’ve already got a 25% modifier, nothing changes, since you’re already at the cap.

It’s why people with swiftness and 25% modifiers have the same in-combat speed.

And I’m saying it doesn’t give me any speedboost in or out of combat regardless if I have other speed enhancements or turn them off specifically to test this.

DeceiverX.8361:

For movespeed, it doesn’t actually do anything while in combat (assuming swiftness or SotH), since the cap is 25%. This is a common trait with any movespeed modifiers while in combat:

“Effects that increase movement speed do not stack with each other — only the greatest effect takes precedence. For example, a character under the effect of Signet of Air (25%) and swiftness (33%) will only move 33% faster. Maximum out-of-combat movement speed is capped at 133% of base speed; maximum in-combat speed is capped at 125% of base.”

Source:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Movement_speed

That would mean the signet taking precedence with it’s higher increase in speed according to tooltip, atleast to me it gives no speedbuff at all.

I find that too many of our important skills needed very often has a bloody slow mofo cast rather than being too many keyclicks making it feel very slow and clumbsy (and sometimes ineffective) playing it, I am not sure for every class and build but I find this to be the case with most ranger builds you can make from certain weapon skills to utilities, while for instance warrior feels like nearly everything is instant, applying buffs and boons or other effects goes boom boom and many don’t share gcd so the gameplay feels slick this is not how I feel the ranger is currently and this alone would boost the class’ effectiveness aswell as fun to play quality in my opinion.

Tragic Positive.9356:

It does.
… All of it.

Tested

All of it? I never had the speedbuff apply to me, I assumed it was a tooltip typo sort of thing.

New armor composition, weapons and dyes.

Ice Cold Wintersbark Set and very pleased with it, now if only they would let me dye the quiver black and blue the fractal capacitor goes perfectly for colors and has the nice shimmering but I just want a quiver always so there it is…

I like your changes but I think poison volley should be a poison bomb arrow exploding in a 360 radius around your target, concussion shot is good as is if it had a shorter cd I think a shorter cd is better than increased duration from various angles without being too good.

edit: Eagle eye and read the wind should both affect the shortbow aswell.

Eggyokeo.9705:

Manekk.6981:

What’s the point of the handicap? I mean other than to prevent the same guy staying winner forever if we imagine someone could, I know it’s meant to be lighthearted fun to see new innovative builds rather than a tourney to see who’s the best but the handicap kinda defeats that purpose if you ask me, wouldn’t it be better not to have that we might actually find some new build that proves unbeatable (by other rangers)

you answered your own question in the first sentence. it not about finding which is the most OP because typically a good play in a bad build will bet a bad player in a good build anyway.

It’s about having fun, being inventive, and an excuse get petty/trolly over something that don’t actually matter. If one person gets to the hill stays there permanently then this adventure would die and loose its fun very quickly.

Yeah yeah I get that but I still don’t see a problem with someone staying ontop of the hill because he plays his build really well he already has a “handicap” in that someone can make a build to specifically counter his as best as it’s possible anyway, just my opinion on the matter…

Norn has way superior armors in my opinion, but as some others also mentioned movement is very diffrent between them, you should probably make 1 male and female of both and test how you feel about their respective movement.

What’s the point of the handicap? I mean other than to prevent the same guy staying winner forever if we imagine someone could, I know it’s meant to be lighthearted fun to see new innovative builds rather than a tourney to see who’s the best but the handicap kinda defeats that purpose if you ask me, wouldn’t it be better not to have that we might actually find some new build that proves unbeatable (by other rangers)

Mystic Angelique.4021:

Swd/dagger are very good at evading but dagger have limited range. Pet condition removal are good too but sacrifices your pet.
Trading trap slot for speed slot.
Your build is strong at kiting.
The first step is alway the hardest trying out new builds see if the build works for you.

Kiting was the idea you would use only longbow aslong as you can, the sword and dagger is mainly to evade and apply more poison if they get in your face and you can’t stealth or otherwise create space but then swap back to bow after evading back to range, it works fantastically well with celestial without the traps and this rune, I run that now so I can’t imagine more stealth would make it any worse

I tried this with a rabid setup with a few differences I went full into survival for empathic bond and dropped shorter cd on bow, sword+dagger and only 2 traps I think cause I can’t play without speed so I think I had 2 traps and signet of the hunt, worked really well for ganking 1v1 not so well otherwise but longbow works fantastic with some bleeds and celestial so this should be better although I would still go sword+ dagger if I was you.

This is what I would go with:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAT8YjMqUwa3KurQ1ag+ga9CEAjd7fYGuBWTAA-TVCFABNcQAC4CAg9+D+pEkS1fA4BAYlyv80NowRAQUQYE-w

the food I would use is the condi duration with heal on crit but I can’t find it in this build editor so pretend it’s there

It’s bad on it’s own but can be used very effectively in combination with other utilities, traits, sigils etc, adding bleeds on stealthed opponents, stacking might for your pet with either rampage as one or the trait in a few seconds I like it but as with many ranger skills it is severly lacking on it’s own unless you combine skills and traits correctly.

Didn’t read, RF is not OP it doesn’t need a change, and no I don’t play with a longbow.

Found a nice spot for a screenie in the first pic, then the grenth priest found me another was very good for the event aswell xD same armor as before though just the new boots wich I love

It’s a very good build, very good offensive pressure with this I have done similar ones before and it can bleed in the extreme no matter how good their cleanse is, however when you get jumped by numerous opponents you’re a sitting duck with no escape really and only a sword would do that I would also prefer evasive purity despite the buff to signets just to have extra security that poison will not ruin your heals aswell as empathic bond for other condi bursters.

Lunar Sunset.8742:

Manekk.6981:

Some of my latest sets…

My norn female ranger in what I call “jungle ninja” it’s with rox’ quiver and sylvari T3 weapons.

My human male ranger is based on something from star wars, a smuggler type using asurran weapons this image is the AC boss though cause I wish i could have this gun and backpack :p

You make that hairstyle look good.

I love it, always wanted one with feathers in it, it’s also perfect together with the new dry top mask I think

New look for female norn, wanted somethign that looked a little “dusty” fitting for something like dry top or similar the screenie is taken in Hoelbrak though lol

Edit: Adding more pics of the same set, liked some of the screenies from the hidden garden puzzle enough to add them here and also really like the simple look the hardwood bow has, it’s the basic one just darker

Some of my latest sets…

My norn female ranger in what I call “jungle ninja” it’s with rox’ quiver and sylvari T3 weapons.

My human male ranger is based on something from star wars, a smuggler type using asurran weapons this image is the AC boss though cause I wish i could have this gun and backpack :p

In pve I use double drakes for almost everything, marsh and river, in pvp I usually go marsh drake and wolf.

Would love nothing more than some work on the more or less useless pets, a cleave on boars and other tanky pets would raise their stock a fair bit and I would love to use boar for estethic reasons.

That sword looks just fantastic, fun to watch cheers

Shortbow is pretty good still in my opinion but of course it could use some improvements:

1. The flanking requirement should be changed somehow bleeding duration might need to be reduced but I think that would be ok.

2. Range increased through traits make it shorter than longbow then if you will but atleast give the option.

3. Poison volley should be a “poison explosion arrow” give it a slightly shorter duration on hit but make it explode in a small aoe inflicting poison to all enemies in a 180 area or whatever is the norm for these types of aoes.

The rest of the skills are pretty good I think, the stun/daze could have a slightly shorter cd but that is about it.

In regards to the longbow discussion I believe one reason crossbows would be “easier to use” is you don’t have to be fit at all as you would use special tools to draw the most powerful crossbows where in the case of the biggest longbows you had to be increadibly strong to draw them at all let alone be accurate when shooting it.

Apparition.1576:

Ok I like where this thread is going. Lets continue this discussion. These are the weapons we have been discussing thus far.

1) Crossbow

2) Knives/Daggers

3) Pistols

4) Staff

5) Spear (New weapon)

FYI More than likely I will keep editing this post if the thread continues with new ideas. =D

6) Whips as new offhand weapons, perfect thief and ranger weapons and they already exist in ele lightning whips aswell as NPCs using normal whips.

I want spears on land, spears are fantastic, and while I agree crossbows actually suit warriors and engineers better I would still like one just for looks if nothing else, cause crossbows look cool

Flitzie.6082:

Manekk.6981:

I have no idea what armors you guys are talking of here, got some screenies or other pics of them?

We are talking about the armor sets of the MMO lineage II, which probably many of us have grown to love over the years of playing this game.

(They do look quite different on females and other races but human male is usually the standard and best looking I’ll show you them.)

Some sets that got mentioned in this thread in order of attachments:
-Majestic Light Armor
-Dark Crystal Light
-Doom Plate Armor

The first and last pic just looks like heavy/plate armor, middle one was good though I liked that one

panicbutton.1053:

Rare pets are also fun. I don’t mean to compare games but back in WoW it was pretty fun trying to camp out to train a rare pet that would only spawn during a certain time. They can have unique skins opposed to the typical pets!

It would also be nice to see a large variety of pets with different skills:
-Crabs(reflect, stun)
-Destroyers(stabilization, fire shield)
-Insects(charge, rapid attack)
-Imps(meteor, fire field, summon imps)
-Ooze(pull, immobilize)
-Raptor(screech, fury)
-Skale(regen, daze)
-Skelk(teleport, ambush)
-Wind Riders(reflect, confusion ray)

Absolutely! I still remember how much I loved my “ghostwolf” so annoying to tame that sucker, then later of course they had to ruin my fun by introducing a spirit beast with the same kitten skin wich sucked balls cause I was the only one left on my server with the wolf and I think there was only 3 of us to begin with that had one.

Aridia.3042:

shalywen.9548:

Speaking of L2, Dark Crystal looked a lot better than a Majestic for human models, in particular for an archer/ranger/thief class. Majestic was ugly for females and looked more like a heavy armor on males (they looked more like star wars stormtroopers than archers),. Only looked good on elf males and dark elf females.

I agree the female Maj light is not as good. DC light does look nice. But I like the popped “collar” of the Maj light. :> I like Doom Plate for the same reason which is why I was trying to recreate that for my female toon.

Plus I’m an archer at heart, so I like the Maj light bonus.

I have no idea what armors you guys are talking of here, got some screenies or other pics of them?

I do love the standard “aragorn ranger” look but I have grown a little tired of making multiple sets like this for both male/female, norn/human

I made a complete 180 and decided my human male was a smuggler ranger from star wars, you can’t see them but I used some low level asura weapons with a blue glow on them wich matched the feel and look well, pretty happy with the outcome

Prysin.8542:

Manekk.6981:

Prysin.8542:

or reduce CD of Heal as One and classify it as “Survival Skill” so we can use it with SotF. That would go a long way too.

This sounds more than good to me although the cd probably shouldn’t be reduced since it would then be affected by the trait reducing cd if you pick that (wich you certainly would using this heal)

Almost all other professions have at least one mediocre super short cd heal.

Yeah but it couldn’t be considered mediocre if it had a supershort cd, it’s a pretty strong heal as it is on a 20 s cd, if it was made a survival skill it would be 16s that sounds like a good number to me is all, you could have a heal skill that would be the strongest heal over time we have with sotf also removing 2 conditions every 16 s, that sounds pretty darn strong to me it would be our best heal disregarding group benefits for the spring.

Prysin.8542:

or reduce CD of Heal as One and classify it as “Survival Skill” so we can use it with SotF. That would go a long way too.

This sounds more than good to me although the cd probably shouldn’t be reduced since it would then be affected by the trait reducing cd if you pick that (wich you certainly would using this heal)

If only you would have had rampage as one and marsh drake, it’s very fun against warriors even better against 2 actually, I think you know what I mean

I agree with most you said regarding pets and trait synergy but I still love playing ranger though and feel it’s a well working class overall, one other thing that irritates me is how useless most pets are overall, there’s really only a few that you will pick depending on what you do.

Yes and the spikes on his back look slightly bigger too unless it’s my mind playing tricks on me because of the icon change, looks more drake and less giant frog now.

It’s strong no doubt I just can’t help feeling it will be kitten d by conditions, sure enough you do high dps to burst someone unawares but condi heavy classes/builds….yeah…

I think this is stronger than many assume pets become true beasts with some might stacking, I think getting more survival skills would be a good idea though and perhaps trade some clerics for more crit whether that is berserker or knight but some more crit wouldn’t be bad and swapping signet of the hunt for muddy terrain would give both increased control and higher fury uptime actually fury should be pretty much permanent then.

I’m easily the best at making cosmetic armor sets /deal

The “guild gloves” match that coat perfectly, try them.

BRAYFIRE.8297:

Hello!! I saw a dude today that had rox’s quiver, when i asked him he said it was in the gem store i mars. But i was hacked in mars so i did not have the chance to buy it, so i was wondering if it was ever gonna come back?? Ty

It seems they rotate old stuff in and out of the gemstore every week, it’ll be back sooner or later for sure.

I get it nonstop basically, it’s just infuriating me by now, it doesn’t seem to matter where I even get it on completely flat surface aswell.

Perhaps I should go for my first legendary after all…

KevlarZero.6849:

Good point, I guess I didn’t want to have to worry about speed ever. But yea I should use something else!

Well you really don’t have to worry fighting on a spot, the speed is not as useful there at the very least in terms of +25% speed for 1 second or whatever you don’t already have swiftness up for, it’s way more important while moving between points or if you are forced to disengage/escape but even then the tiny window at normal speed will basically make no diffrence at all anyway.

Why use signet of the hunt in a near perma swiftness build? plenty better options to use, you could have signet of the wild instead wich would make your pet alot more durable and also give yourself more healing than the runes currently do and pick up a more useful runeset also, or get one of the stunbreaker ones as last utility.

RoyalPredator.9163:

New, more Noble look.
How long will I keep it?
I don’t know, I like to look badss
(Prev post of mine here)

This is a great look, I never really liked the HotW boots before but they do look bloody good here, some improvements you could make if I have my way is to dye the metals on the chestpiece and boots to match the quiver’s and likewise make a few brown leather patches to match the same I know it can be done perfectly with this chest too cause I have a set I did it on (no screenies though you’ll have to take my word for it)

I don’t even remember the speed nerf to be honest, I definetly remember and miss the range after that got kitten d though

Forzani.2584:

shadowpass.4236:

lol, power ranger sb/s-d can also go head to head with a warrior no problem… u don’t need perma regen to 1v1 a warrior :P

I know u said decent condis, so he might have been running a celestial setup if he also was able to tank and still have decent direct dmg

tho, if u saw a permanent regen boon on him, he was more than likely apothecary regen ranger build

Sometimes I feel like I am playing a different game …or maybe an alternative galaxy. If I only played a Ranger then I really couldn’t comment one way or the other. Same as if I only played a Warrior.

Since 40% of my WvW time is on Warrior and 45% is on my Ranger I can comment.

When on my Ranger I beat Warriors maybe 25% of the time. When I am on my Warrior I beat Rangers about 90% of the time.

How some Rangers consider Warriors as an easy fight confuses me……since that isn’t the case for me when I play both classes.

I mostly agree with this, most warriors are fairly easy aside from ss/bow on my ranger though but even though I consider myself to be 10 times the player on my ranger it’s just ridiculously much easier to kill other rangers while playing warrior than the other way round.

More viable than ever for roaming I’d say and now you can customize it better to be offensive or defensive with more sigils, armors and trait changes etc.

My devourers used in the water are called Xenomorph and Yautja I stopped naming the others by now cause I can’t be kitten d anymore, although I do occasionally name them after the guildie I am in party with, with a juvenile prefix xD

Been a long time since I posted a new armorset, here’s my current favourite on my male norn and perhaps my all time favourite across all characters aswell

I’ll say this much aside from all other nice benfits this trait is a fury factory