Guild Wars 2

Aether McLoud.1975:

I never understood why we aren’t allowed to have anything faster than swiftness (nothing stacks!) but engineers can have 200% runspeed for a short time with their superspeed boost.

thats just poor wording on the skill tooltip. it is only very slightly faster than swiftness. (140% instead of 133%)

I can’t believe people still cry about thieves. mug damage was nerfed, quickness was nerfed, heartseeker was nerfed. If you still can’t react to a thief ganking you, the thief is not really the problem. If they hit very hard with their berzerker initial burst, you can hit them equally as hard in the follow up moves. If you got killed by the initial burst then you are doing something wrong.

BBMouse.6510:

Guardian and thief always point finger at each other reagarding OP class. After I try each prof myself, I think WvW is only about 3 class atm, namely guardian, thief, and ele. The rest are expandable/redundent (not even mesmer is needed anymore).

For example, for a small group, you can have 3 thieves (2 offensive 1 support), 2 quardian, and 1 ele. This is all you need to wipe any small group with ease. If you need a zerg, just have this same setup x N. It can handle any zerg. This 3 prof can do anything other prof can do in any situation (with the right utilities/skills of course).

I run solo or in a small group (5 or less) daily since release. We fight groups of 20+ guys and we end up winning lots of those fights. Lately we stumbled into a new party composition that destroys stuff so fast while still keeping alive, it’s ridiculous. We do have a guardian, but normally no ele or thief. We tried running 2 or 3 thieves and while its decent and comic, its no where near as effective and easy as what we have now.
And what gives us problems is not thieves, eles or guardians either. Necros however…

Caid.4932:

[Tchu] on gandara do, closer to 3 i think really. Couples of other on gandara running small but they’re probably closer to 10 these days.

[team] on AG do too. They attacked our 20 or so a few times and offered more of a threat than some 40 man groups funnily enough.

Theres still a few around.

yes, we [tchu] typically run 2-5 (we are very rarely 5, but we have lots of friends from other guilds and always pick one or two up) , never more than that. BT from gandara also roams in a similar fashion. judge does it as well but they have more members.

[team] were fun to fight against, the few times we met.I don’t really recall fighting any other small teams like us, except for them.

We dont really mind though, our “thing” is fighting against impossible odds and see how far we can go. having more 5 man groups around to fight every so often would be nice, but I really enjoy those 5v20+ we keep getting.

Kodel.4871:

Maskaganda.2043:

Again, mad fun for us today at rof bl. we are really enjoying this match up. cheers to all those rof guys that kept fighting us, those are just the kind of fights we enjoy. much love.

to the charr guardian commander, good job trying to get those guys organized and keeping them fighting. I don’t envy that task. but thanks, that made us all the more fun to our 5 man group.

<3

That commander loves days like this, there was barely any swearing and he was constantly complimenting us on our ability to stay in one group………
We could have met your 5 man group better but we were constantly being hit from the sides from XxX players.
Highlight for me was you guys chasing me from your spawn up to Foghaven to meet the rest of our group. I waited at ruins and saw you start to follow, swam through the water thinking they’ll never chase just one player this far, you were still on me at upper senrtry so I thought ok F it you can meet the rest of the group

I really don’t remember that :p the one guy I remember we chased for longer was a charr engie that I went after underwater from ruins across the lake, dieing near garrison.
I don’t recall any XxX on the map either, only Speller, the necro who was with us.

anyway, good fights, there were some really great moments there for us. I hope this morning tradition keeps up for the rest of the match up.

Again, mad fun for us today at rof bl. we are really enjoying this match up. cheers to all those rof guys that kept fighting us, those are just the kind of fights we enjoy. much love.

to the charr guardian commander, good job trying to get those guys organized and keeping them fighting. I don’t envy that task. but thanks, that made us all the more fun to our 5 man group.

<3

nice fights again earlier this morning at rofl bl.

to that XIII commander guardian: I’ll totally help you ambush and zerg our guardian down for a fee. I’ll even throw in some candy so you can puke on him.

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Edit: Reading now from wiki u cannot increase condition duration more than 100%, is that for real? -.-’’ [/quote]

it is. condition duration is capped at 100%. so is boon duration.

necromancer scepter trait is the only thing that can get over 100% durations afaik.

nice one xun <3

don’t expect anything except some bug fixes and very small tweaks, it’s a content patch.

arrow kelvin.2075:

we just took our hills back in RoF and guess what was at the inner gate?? a siege golem, small tip bring it to spawn

We here at tchuu and friends want to thank you for that tip. We feel it has truly made us better players – and also better persons. Up until now we used to think of golems as disposable things we built to call the zerg, a bat signal of sorts, but you showed us the error of our ways. Again we thank you beloved asura thief! Never again will we abandon our golems to their fate while farming the crap out of your group.

to everyone else we fought at rofl bl this morning, TCHUU TCHUU MOTHERKITTENS.
Great times, we weren’t expecting this match up to have so many fun fights. That earlier morning drakkar group was a blast to fight against even with your obscene overabundance of necros.

cheers.

the build looks solid but I just can’t uderstand how you can click skills and use grenade kit. I mean, clicking skills confuses me enough, but when you have ground targeted stuff I can’t stop thinking about all the mouse movements you constantly have to do :p
this is not criticism btw, if you can make it work, good for you, I just can’t understand how or why you do it and I’m sure u’d do much better if you’d avoid clicking skills

what rng? ^^

elixir H will give you a defensive boon
toss B will give you an offensive boon
toss S will give you a chance at stomp or flee
toss H will give you a defensive boon
toss U will give you projectile blocking

when traited they will also give you might and cleanse conditions. in most fights longer than 1 minute the good will outweight the bad.

I can understand the frustration over toss S, sometimes it decides the outcome of a battle and it shouldnt be so but its very hard for me to decide if I’d prefer always stealth or always stability or a kittenized nerfed version where you got both but for 2.5 seconds or something weak like that.

as for X, it’s just bad and lazy design.

poison dart volley is decent enough. at close range you won’t miss any hit and you’ll get permanent poison on a target. just don’t shoot it from 900 range expecting miracles, it’s obviously not the intent of the skill. there’s a risk vs reward thing to it that works fine, just like blowtorch.

a change I’d support would be making it a projectile finisher tho, I get very jealous of warriors longbow or thieves shortbow when I notice the lack of projectile finishers in our pistols.

also, be careful what you wish for, elixirs are still in a very good place atm any change will most likely result in a nerf, even if they removed the rng.

@ukuni
trust me, this build is very solid. I had the chance to play with amadeus in a group of 3, later 4 and we were bringing down 15 guys at a time; I’d just grab all his burn duration and spread it with epidemic on my necro; spreading 30 seconds of burn in aoe is pretty kitten destructive :p
meanwhile he’d save my necro kitten with his good heals.
at one point we messed up, got overrun by a zerg and he was the only one escaping.

I’m considering a similar build but with TK instead of ft and a few different traits. also, carrion ^^

you don’t really need speedy kits if you are running an elixir build with 30 points in alchemy. even without any extra boon duration you shouldn’t have much problems keeping swiftness up while in combat. 13 seconds of swiftness from B, 13 from hidden flask at 75% hp, 13 from H randomly and 13 from toss B randomly.

elixir S is still great, even after the nerf. it is still a guaranteed stomp, which is awesome in wvw, extra might stacks and cleanse.
C is ok, especially if you are fighting a necro, it’s cooldown is faster than corrupt boon so you can always counter it well.
EG is a good choice as well, especially now that the toolbelt skill is a stunbreaker. its another source of swiftness, a blast finisher, an area heal and perma weakness on one single utility slot.

take a look at my stuff for ideas or just to see most of your traits and utilities it in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cmgYIXdnik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgubndIgspY

also, boon duration is capped at 100%, not 50%. I run +70% boon duration now and I have gone +90 and 100 (110) before.

but yes, your build is solid for small scale wvw, its similar to mine.

no I dont!

amadeus has one tho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B4mbYlRiJw

also, you dont need 1900 toughness to survive a thief. I do it fine with 1350 :p

terrahero summed it up pretty well.

I’d consider necro having it worse than engies and warriors because the number 2 skill has a very long wind up and the #3 skill is lacking. also warrior #3 can change some fights around and engie #3 is very good when we actually get to use it.

heh. it might take a while, I’m still undecided on a number of traits.
also, the usual build is still working great, not compelling me to change :p I was solo roaming for 3h this morning, had 1 death because I was foolish enough to try a revive on someone getting zerged.

Belma.3986:

@TSCHU: Are you a guild with many players?

if you mean TCHU, we have 5 players atm.

thanks!

I also liked how that worked out with the thief, especially because it was a do or die thing with tekno downed.

we always worked very well in a duo but I’m really enjoying guardians strenght in numbers trait. +150 toughness just from being next to him.. and he is up to some 3200 armor or something, pretty insane considering the ammount of healing he can do as well.

Belma.3986:

Ps: Compliment to 4 Gandaras today on Millersund Map: The Guild Tag was TCHU. Good fights and nice movement guys. 15 Abaddon players were not able to kill you. ,) Respect.

thanks! it was fun for us. we love playing against abbadon (and riverside), we know we can always get a good fight.
we were 3 tchuus. our 4th was mulmir, guardian from FRI. <3

there’s plenty of room for variation. I wouldnt use acidic elixirs because I consider it a very flawed concept. the only time I think there might be some usefulness to it would be to remove stability from opponents transformations (tornado, plague, lich)

joshisanonymous.5270:

How do you get up to 25 stacks of might all the time?

I don’t :p
I get 10-25 most of the time. HGH + boon duration stuff + sigil of battle

thanks
there are alot of new possibilities around, I’m considering running a totally different build with rocket boots to remove some mobility conditions and eg/healing turret to remove other stuff when needed.

its video sharing time!

couple of duo fights I recorded yesterday, a 2vs I dont know how many but we got 15~ kills and a 2v6. Both vs millers.

tchuu tchuu madakittens.

just a couple of post patch fights recorded yesterday. the first one is very long, I hope its enjoyable to watch as it drags on for a while; we end up getting about 15 kills in 7 minutes of non stop fighting while outnumbered. that ranger about 5 mins in was bugged and a stomp just wasn’t possible.
second one is a 2v6. both times a 3rd joins in towards the end of the fight.

my guardian buddy is The Tekno Viking, I’m not really able to answer questions about his build. All I can say is when we die, he is to blame. always.

we had a few more fights like those and even better when we were 4, but sadly I can’t really record them.
I’m enjoying this patch very much and guardian’s Strength in Numbers is awesome.

my build is the same as before, just with coated bullets instead of protective shield. I might go in a whole new direction soon, last patch opened up even more interesting possibilities.

previously, on my youtube channel (he says with a narrating voice) : http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9NnXVfY4vRU1F-X7b1Oorw/videos

thanks, was looking for one as well.

it’s still a decent trait, you are forgetting about the minor traits in firearms, sharpshooter, target the weak and target the maimed which go very well together with modified ammunition. I’d be looking at +20% damage (10 from mod ammo, 5% from sigil, 5% from target the maimed) and 70% ish crit rate against targets at less than 50% hp which isnt bad at all.

I’m unsure wether to take it or not, mainly because I dont want to give up on anything else. I may have to finally let go of cloaking device :<

Shanks R Us.2489:

Coated bullets is a little enticing, but you have to remember that it’s only going to benefit pistol 1 & 2. And, because pistol 1 is bugged, you’re only going to get the bleed on your initial target.

I know, I’ve used till the last balance patch before this one. pistol 1 + coated bullets will hit twice on the same target at max range or when shooting from above. also when enemies clump together, perfect to stop resses, especially combined with p2 and p4. you have to play a bit with your positioning but tis well worth it. just useless for most duels. if its true we can get it for 20 points instead of 30, then Im happy :p

rfdarko.4639:

There seems to be a lot of focus on permanent swiftness, which yes, is good. But as I said above, it’s not a teleport, or a leap. A teleport to me is fundamentally different than just running faster. The ability to move instantaneously, without regard to cripple or chill or even immobility in some cases, is powerful, and its something thieves and mesmers have in abundance.

I’m of the opposite opinion actually. There seems to be alot of players thinking that mobility is only about teleports, leaps and passive signets. those do not make you escape or catch someone any more than things like permanent swiftness, box of nails, glue shot, glue bomb, chill nades, elixir S, toss S, gear shield, magnet, etc.

also, mesmers and thieves getting torment is because their condition builds are laughable right now. it has little to do with mobility and won’t change much in that regard either.

so since he doesn’t zerg around with a blob calling target on his own team mate so you can blob easier, he should go spvp? is that what u saying?

@ shanks, makes sense, I suppose I should give it a try but I’m probably dropping 10 points in inventions tomorrow anyway to get coated bullets.. if those patch notes are real ofc.

my pocket guardian is so awesome he even defends me at the forums. I just saw aegis pop up.

yea, this is pretty much the same as my last build, except you run power shoes while I run protective shield.
you should just run ac a couple of times and get superior runes of the monk instead of major water :p

is power shoes really worth it tho?
while in combat I never have any issues with speed, swiftness its pretty much permanent and for escapes I just drop glue shots and box of nails behind me, while avoiding damage with S/gear shield/throw S.
My shady math tells me protective shield is about a 7% total reduction in direct damage in a long fight and probably a better choice there, but I never really tested power shoes, always dismissed it as unnecessary.

good job on the vid.

Eviator.9746:

I’d like to see videos of you beating thieves who are trying to gank you open field in WvW. Those videos need to show you being taken by surprise, because that’s the problem. I don’t doubt you can do it, I just want to see how it’s done. We L2P losers need some graphical aids sometimes.

most of the times I dont even bother recording those, not gonna press record key half way through a fight :p

it’s still easy enough to fight them tho, only ones giving me trouble are good s/d thieves. or d/p who can just run away. they can’t do much else anyway.

I suggest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B4mbYlRiJw for everyone who has problems with thieves.

koopatroopa.5360:

Are your purposely using a sup monk and major monk for the +healing or is this site not right and you are using it for the boon duration?

boon duration

aydenunited.5729:

Maskaganda.2043:

google.3709:

the only thing that will change if those patch notes are real, a condi engineer should never win a 1v1 against a decent necro

that has always been the case :p

aydenunited.5729:

At the rate that HGH condition builds cleanse I don’t understand how anyone can know this already. I’m not saying it’s not going to be true, but it just seems like a big jump to a conclusion based on very little info.

a good necro will overload you with conditions, 409 just isnt fast enough to get rid of them, especially while you get 2 fears, your conditions tossed back at you and boons corrupted.

None of that you mentioned was any different from what Necros can already do… how does the new condition suddenly make it any different is what I mean?

it doesn’t, thats the point. in a 1v1 necro already has a huge advantage over engie.

google.3709:

the only thing that will change if those patch notes are real, a condi engineer should never win a 1v1 against a decent necro

that has always been the case :p

aydenunited.5729:

At the rate that HGH condition builds cleanse I don’t understand how anyone can know this already. I’m not saying it’s not going to be true, but it just seems like a big jump to a conclusion based on very little info.

a good necro will overload you with conditions, 409 just isnt fast enough to get rid of them, especially while you get 2 fears, your conditions tossed back at you and boons corrupted.

engies and necros are as different from each other as it gets. also, necros always had some access to burning, as they do with confusion, converting boons.

Lyssas.1586:

“New grandmaster trait – Modified Ammunition: Damage is increased by 2% per condition on the target, when wielding a pistol or rifle.”

Should this be interpreted as for each unique condition? (seems kind of right) or each condition stack (would get op really fast)?

unique, its always per unique condition/boon.

I don’t really miss the range but I do miss coated bullets some times. Last couple of days I was playing my necro, small group against the zerg and I was so happy when our enemies all clumped up to ress and I just dropped marks on them. I miss doing that with my engie build.
if the leaked patch notes are real, I might switch back to coated bullets.

they did say that with the new weakness changes, durations are getting cut. Makes sense too.

Shanks R Us.2489:

koopatroopa.5360:

Isn’t this the build Mask has posted many moons ago?

Idk who that is, but maybe. Do you have a link to his build?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Celebrating-my-30-000th-kill-solo-wvw-video

but I’m pretty sure your build is different from the ones I posted, tho similar. I think you have might duration stuff instead of general boon duration and you are not using either cloaking device or protective shield.

anyway, like I said before, there’s lots of room for changes in this builds as long as you keep 30 points in alchemy, fast acting elixirs and hair trigger.

Oren.1736:

Good WvW’ing this morning-afternoon on MS border AG VS Ms (+vs awesome TCHU gandarans).
Good lone siege of us on hills did the work, and rids of the dreaded WP for today. We on AG had a blast hope MS had GG too.
Ended loosing it to a very timely and powerful golem rush after countering 4 attempts prior to it.
Thanks to gandaran TCHU for being pesky both on us and mainly MS, every time you picked at them we ran right in to clean up the field, helped much!

thanks, we had lots of fun. we always enjoy going 3 vs all that and see what we can pull off :p
we never really favoured attacking either side, just attacked who we could and who seemed to have more players in a skirmish.
you guys holding on to hills allowed us to have some great fights.

cheers

passive movement buffs are highly overrated anyway

you sound pretty clueless ezeriel. engineer is in a very good state atm. that signature of yours makes no sense either. I’m struggling to understand it.

@op

are you looking for advice regarding wvw, pve, dungeons or what exactly? :p

regarding wvw, I run with a guardian as a engie alot of the time in wvw, in a duo or a trio. the guardian usually provides the heals and boons while also dealing with most of the stomps while I do -mostly- condition damage. my opinion on a 3rd member is that ranger doesn’t really help much. a mesmer or a thief fits my group better because they can provide you with easy escape mechanisms.
engie as support/healing is perfectly viable tho.

Space.8053:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0JCqKd5hHM

This is literally how we roll.

<3

why no pinbal bumber sounds?!?!11

I only bought 250 of those some days ago :<

spent alot of gold on those +150 toughness pots you can buy in southsun for my ele. (they stack with regular food btw, they take the mastercrystal/stone/oil slot)

good fights, good song choice too

I have been running staf ele in a zerg buster roaming group (5 or less of us) against huge numbers.

I made the tankiest staff ele I could and I’m really happy with out it turned out, unless there’s 5+ guys focusing me for a long time I’m not gonna go down. Meanwhile I’m doing alot of healing and support (all the fields, insta blast on earth dodge, aoe snare, aoe stun, perma boons up, cleansing, etc)

what I run is the typical 0/0/10/30/30 , ether renewal, mist form, armor of earth and lightning flash. Cleric armor, azurite jewels, sigile of energy and boon duration runes.
Im sitting at 20k hp, 1780 toughness and I just feel unkillable.

I don’t do any damage, nor do I bother with it much. I lay the fields, do the heals, give the boons so others in my group can kill and survive the zerg trains we unleash on us.

I might make a vid of it soon since it’s been so much fun playing a staff ele like this.

good stuff amadeus, I love it when they just keep comming at you like that, makes for some fun fights. and yea, I can tell you haven’t played eg/ft much before, alot of combo opportunities you were ignoring. or maybe you did it on purpose and I just ocd about combo fields whenever I have eg on :p

Kontrolle.3514:

Retal is a reason to not zerg.
Thieves are a reason to not roam.

simple solution is stop playing like i did.

or just, you know… get good :p