Guild Wars 2

Don’t go berserker warrior and you are fine in WvW.

You got some builds that will free you from the thief terrors. (so you can basicly ignore em) But yea, played my warrior for 600 hours now in WvW and I can say they are absolute beasts. They can withstand tons of damage and still deal decent back. Can solo cap camps quite easily and still are pretty fast roamers.

Warrior can be played different ways, but I like mine the most with soldier runes on my armor and 30 points into tactics. But I know many will dissagree :p.

CookMETEnder.7582:

TwistedFate.1024:

hey all, im lvling a warrior and so i been theory crafting builds that seem to intrigue me, the most recent/my favorite so far is this, and id like your opinions/sugestions,

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.3|7.1g.h15.c.1g.h16|0.0.0.0.0.0|1n.a7.1g.a7.1n.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7|21k.0.21k.0.21k.0.21k.0.31k.0.3s.0|0.0.u19c.k17.k37|0.0|5z.69.6b.6i.6m|e

if the link dosent show up plz tell me and how to fix it? im not great with forums,

ty for your time and help

I would recommend playing WvWvW first and seeing what you think you want/need most.
The build is nice, but what is the point of it?
It has some good survivability, but doesn’t really do much.

I would also throw away FGJ. Awesome skill for PvE, but I think physical utilities trump it for any Vs. Player situation.

I personally use a hammer/GS build.
Stomp, Bull’s Charge, and Bolas for utilities and Mending for heal skill. SoR Elite.
The sheer amount of immobilize + stuns makes this an amazing build.
Timed right, it is a potent 1v1 build… but it shines in chasing + 2~5 people raiding parties.

I don’t think there is any warrior in my WvW guild that doesn’t use FGJ :/. Bull’s charge and bola’s are single target skills. They are good for 1 on 1 but they suck in group fights. Not to mention the long cooldown.

But you asked a good question. It is hard to adjust a build without knowing the purpose. In WvW you can solo roam, 1 party roam, guild roam and zerg roam. You can have GvG fights, ZvZ fights. You can focus on capping camps or focus on supporting your team. Or focus on defending or attacking. Believe it or not, they all go slightly different builds.

I would go for the 9% extra crit chance based on adrenaline. Will do you dmg good.

Looks pretty solid, you will have troubles with conditions.
Your health is pretty low thou, so maybe swap some precision for vitality. And I find 30 points in vitality better than 30 points in thoughness so maybe switch those 10 points so your shouts heal. Retaliation is good, but I am just a fan of healing shouts.

ps.: why the warrior’s sprint?

Yep you said it right, Anet is working on the engine. They are optimizing it so it works more efficiently. Another thing Anet failed in is multi core support. It is implemented but bugged. There wil be better support for this too. Not sure they will release it this patch, but rest asure you will be pressing your skills and see something happening in the nearby future.

And culling is a way to reduce lag as you said yes. They can’t remove culling completely without optimizing all these things. And they promised culling will be history so I am expecting nothing less. Because if they remove culling and lag is unchanged, this will increase the server load by so much that the game just keeps crashing at X amount of people. I do think Anet has competent people and this wont be the case.

And why complain on the forum, you are just waisting time. Don’t you think Anet knows about these problems? No use in opening 1000 threads about 1 problem.

Well done for WL from vizu, we really thought you would run back into bay. But no you grouped and buffed infront of the door and charged. There is still hope for Vizu. Was a nice fight.

Also nice defending in bay as always.

Ask Vizunah, think they have a quazillion rangers, all glass canon ofcourse. Standing from a distance trying to range you down. But the meat train just storms em down. Not sure this is because of bad builds or because rangers are just UP.

Engineers have a ton of builds that work in WvW. And I am not talking about 100nades one. They got a lot of healing and protection utilities and can disrupt really good as well. I made an engi that worked really well for roaming. And for defending towers/keeps. He wasn’t that good for open field fights. But they got really good builds for open field too.

And there are tons of thieves running around in WvW, hope the number decreases a bit with the patch.

Wanted to join our zerg at north hills, so was running past the wall from south hills. I noticed a party of 5 enemie players. They ran towards me and I ran past them. Did a dodge roll towards the wall and feared all 5 down. Was hilarious.

Another player saw us infront of garrison gate, he made run for it with all his abilities towards the portal. He didn’t noticed garrison was ours. He kept running while we killed him…

Another time, we wiped a zerg a north inner bay, we were collecting our bags when we noticed 1 enemie was still ramming the gate. Brave soul :p.

1 of my fails, I had double tap to dodge activated and was in a golem. They made a portal on a cliff and I wanted to take it, I double tapped to position myself and ran to my death :/.

Do you even read the forum?

26 march…

ps.: I’ll help —> https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/world-vs-worldthe-end-of-culling/

Ray.2640:

Look at EU T9:
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#EU

Look at their threat:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Guerrilla-Tactica-from-Fissure-of-Woe

This, I don’t see complaining in EU. What you want Anet to do? Make another tier just for the last server? Make 3 extra servers so you could fight those for a more fair fight?

Adding buffs ain’t fair towards the opposition because they work hard and you just get the things thrown onto your lab. So no, don’t ask for buffs.

http://www.teamspeak.com/
http://5eurogadgets.nl/28-mini-clip-on-microfoon.html

All your problems gone for 5 euro’s :o.

But I don’t think they implement follow because you can just make a massive zerg ball. All make them follow and make them spam ‘1’. This won’t be in the top tiers, but in the bottem tiers where 20 players is a lot, this might influence things a lot.

Daecollo.9578:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Strike
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Greatsword_Swing

Actually, you are wrong. Guardian/Warrior skills actually hit for similar results. Guardians just have less +% damage buffs, however they get easy access to there 30% critical bonus tree, whereas Warriors do not.

http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mcc9hx This is pretty much the basis for all Guardian builds, its probably one of the most powerful trees in the entire game because it provides both amazing offensive and defensive traits and stats.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hammer_Swing_
Greatsword ‘1’ is really weak. I only use greatsword in WvW for derping around and killing some nubs, because it is hilarious with greatsword. And you are forgetting effective power as red falcon stated.

And for ones I have to agree with everything Red Falcon said.

Finally, let the battle begin. No more slacking, hard against hard. Let me undust my hammer because it missed the blood.
+ speed lvling a guardian for this week too, I got time. Let’s see if I can hit 25k kills this week.

Good luck to both Vizu and Deso. Sorry for our trolls.

ps.: don’t let me down, you got me all excited now.

The milk white warrior you see right before you die, MiLkZz

raudence.7961:

But when you do that they also do no damage. And if he wants to be melee he’s not going to enjoy that. Guardians can last long in a battle but a single glass cannon warrior can force a melee/tank guardian to pop cooldowns. Paired with teammates guardians are also the worst at getting out of battle when times do get rough.

If you want to be a guardian and run in circles blocking and healing yourself without feeling like you killed anyone on your own accord go ahead. If you want to be a glass cannon guardian with 12k health that’s fine too.

He can be a D/D ele though. Glass or not they have the mobility to stay in melee to mid range and still have an escape plan.

If you talking about a tanky warrior dealing no damage, than you are pretty wrong. 5% of your thougness is given to power. This will give a full thougness warrior still 2.1k power. Your precision will be low, but if you go for oil (precision based on thougness %vitality) you still get around 50 crit chance with fury. The only thing you are missing now is crit damage. But who cares, warrior autoattacks already hit like a truck compared to other classes. So his burst damage ain’t super OMfg awesome wadakitten high. But guess what you don’t need that… Overkill is easily done fighting in group. Survivability > damage any day baby.

People got too addicted to the 100b burst damage and forgot the longer you survive the more damage you deal. Warriors can deal tons of damage, that is why they still deal good damage going super tanky.

Depends how you build your warrior, if you go tanky and really healthy with shouts heal, you can take tons of damage. You get a burst heal of 13k health each 20s + you got health regen from your tree.

If the enemy drops a ‘bomb’ on you, guardians often die, yes they regen a lot, but they have troubles withstanding a burst. While a warrior can survive it because of his giagantic health pool.

In a group fight, regen is often given to all. It’s the burst healing and the health pool that depends from class to class. And that makes a warrior so strong in group fights.
According to buildcraft I run 52k effective health, I don’t think a guardian can go over that. Nope, just tried it and a guardian doesn’t even get close, not even with his protection.

Do they exist?
Best commanders I know, you could grab em by their feet, smack a house down and he would still say that it was nothing. Often in a big fight, if the commander dies it is game over. And yes, that icon attracts enemies. You think your group will run through the enemie as a tight ball when you order them too while you stay in the back? No.

If you command pugs, don’t take high mobility commanders (ele’s, mesmers, thiefs). 60% of your players wont be able to follow you, get picked off and die. The power of a good commander is the ability to push into your enemies and quickly regroup with as many players as possible. This is done best by big characters (norn/charrs) that are guardian or warrior. Necro’s would work too and to some extant full tank engineers.

ps.: People still complaining about repair cost in WvW? I have never ever seen such low repair cost in any game. If you only killed 1 player you covered for the repairs. If you can’t pay for the repairs you should look for another game because than you are really really bad.

This is a hard subject, some people swear by full healing power warriors (+-2.2k heal/shout) others think vitality is better (1.5k heal/shout). If you go healing power, really go all the way. Healing power scales really bad and vitality scales enourmously good.

But as said before your shouts hit 5 people, so the minor increase has to be done x5. But you will lose: some power (=dmg), some thoughness and a lot of health (=survivability). I decided for myself that I didn’t want to lose that survivability, because my playstyle demanded it. I am an up into your face player. And if I go heal spec, I will die more often = less shouts to heal. For me the shouts are more for condition removal and buffs and the added heal is just an extra.

Well other theorycrafters decided after calculations that surge > healing signet.
If you take embrace the pain, your adrenaline will be up 24/7, so your healing surge will always heal for max. Healing signet for PvE is good thou, but you do need those burst heals in WvW.

My warrior mostly is last man standing, these so called bunker guardians die before me.

Saying warriors are useless tanky is not true, I got 3.350 armor 31k health, buffed I got 47% crit chance and 2.1k power (unbuffed). I run shout/heal/cc build. I often fight 1vs1 in WvW and barely lose them. I don’t burst kitten down with 3 skills, fights are often dragged out, but I do hit around 1k-2.5k/hit with my hammer and if I get 1 chain cc down, I win. I played full zerker, I played condi, I played balanced build, I played tanky. And I can say I have never had so much fun with my warrior as when I played him full bunker.

Nothing is to much p/v/t
<— 3.350 armor 31k health warrior

Trust me a backstabbing thief will be the most hilarious thing you can encounter from now on.

Kingface.9781:

pcpsong.3850:

Troma.3250:

I don’t know if you guy realize what we have to face with our diminushed forces, you have now a server mixed with a lot of good guilds with a lot of migrations. Please, have at least the respect to not taunt us after all the work you did to rebuild and come back. I don’t remember of any taunt of us when SFR got down on ladder too

Err we didn’t slip down to T2 we chose to go down by frigging the scores. It’s well documented all over this forum. Hell we were busting down doors and letting the other team in to ensure we went down because frankly we were so tired of the lame…can’t even use the word tactics….antics of VS in general.

If hiding behind walls, arrow carts and fighting doors is your definition of winning it’s no wonder you’re starting to fall apart at the seams.

We’ve not rebuilt our server, in the main we’re still the same server we’ve always been, the core has been there since day 1. A couple of other guilds decided to join us, nothing more nothing less. If they leave us then so be it but don’t forget whilst we were in T1 the first time, without these extra guilds, we still managed to win several weeks.

Anyway keep up the rhetoric it’s truly entertaining, you’ll find T2 is a good place to be.

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Song – [VcY] Mesmer

- If the hoppers leave you and they will, you’ll start to fall down again like when PrX left. Saying you made it to T2 for score it’s just an excuse because you couldn’t stand the pressure of T1 anymore to be competitive. Because some guilds came by your side only to get VS down to T2, and not for your community.

- If you manage to bring VS down to T2, you won’t be able to say that you achieved it by your own because you are not capable of this alone. If you’d pride of that and brag about, great sake but myself I wouldn’t be.
Like I said some posts ago, the only thing people’d remember it’s VS had been vanquished, if so, by the 2 bigger WvW servers of the moment, allied by the same goal. “What were their names already? Oh yeah, Seafarer’s Rest and Desolation I think, or something like that.”

@Kingface: You are such a bad troll, you still dare to deny it even when we said we had proof. Server rating reset was announced, we knew we would end in T4-5 if we stayed in T1, but we could end up in T2 if we dropped to T2. So we mobilized our entire server to not even kill dolyaks or sentries. And yes, we saw it as a little vacation, we knew Piken was incomming too and many wanted to fight RG on our server. So dropping was a win-win for us. And unless I am reading your posts wrong you still think we have an allience? If so than you are purely trolling to lure out posts like this. But I made this post more to show off this awesome screenshot from that week
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/gw051k.jpg/

@thread: Had some good fights, Vizu seems to be awake again. Was hard to keep our stuff this morning and nice capping our border, everything was t3. It is getting harder and harder to wipe you guys. Deso bringing some good tactics out too, attacking us everytime we went for Vizu. And you guys are much better defenders than us, you barely lose anything in EB while we often lose tower after tower.

This match u kitten till interesting, Vizu came back in the past too. They might do it again. We’ll see

Greetz from the great white warrior, see you at the battle ground.

ps.: our community still going strong and hasn’t had a dent in it in the past 2 months. So don’t think we don’t have a backbone. The guilds that are still most present have been there since the beginning. Don’t underestimate your enemy, I am surely not underestimating Vizu.
pps.: nothing but respect for troma +1

Not.

/thread

My 2.7k armor engi got killed too by a smoke bomb dealing 6.7k damage…

And yes, they should nerf the mesmer/ele downed state. Mesmer deals way to much damage when downed and and ele’s mist form shouldn’t be able to go through gates. And WTF it has no cooldown…?? Really?

Warrior and engi have the weakest downed state, a warrior has a hammer that misses 80% of the time and rocks… His vegeance takes 6s before you can use it. It could as well not be there, because you barely get time to use it + it takes away the rally when an enemy goes down unless you trait into it.

Engineer has a grapple hook, which bugs out often too. And I think in all the time I have had my engineer I used the aoe knockback like 8 times? So that skill could as well just not be there.

ps.: long cd? I was fighting 2 players with my Engi, I downed the mesmer and before I could make the thief back off to spike the mesmer I got downed by a 6.7k smoke bomb…

5vs5 is called differently: sPvP
10vs10 wouldn’t be logical because you got 8 classes in the game, you won’t be able to use them optimally.
15vs15 would be possible, but still a bit the same problem as with 10vs10
20vs20 minimum to have to get decent class compositions
25vs25 ideal
30vs30 getting a bit to much, need a bigger ‘arena’ for that and fights would last to long + most guilds can’t yield 30 players at the same time

Yea, the seasons would be cool. But why change something that is already good? Many off us like the current WvW system. You can turn any activity dull with such a sentence. But guess what I play 10-14 hours WvW without getting bored. I simply love it and there is a lot more into it than you just described.

Ninja keeps/capping camps/following the enemy zerg/trebbing and counter trebbing/fake attacks on tower to cap another tower/zergvszerg fights/small scale conflicts/even 1vs1/taking nodes/taking hylek, dredge, ogres/ contesting WPs

And a lot more and these are only the point game orientated things, you can have tons of fun more with a good guild.

And please, please, please don’t add more PvE content in WvW. We came here to avoid that kitten.

warning: objective post

Guys guys guys…. Seems my previous post hasn’t cleared up enough of this mess. So here we go again.

-First topic: Deso+SFR
People who still think SFR and Deso worked together in anyway are plain stupid. That screenshot proofs we can have fun together. And you are using 1 screenshot to proof cooperation through the entire week? That is just hilarious and sad at the same time. No, I have been at the commander meetings, we did not team up or ever had contact with Deso.

-Second topic: RG
RG complains a lot yes, they hate they can’t control pugs better yes. They hate squishy people yes. They pown any other guild in GvG yes. They truly are the king of GvG. You doubt my words? Go fight em, I did and they really are pure destruction. People claiming they rolled RG are forgetting they rolled RG + pugs. And that is a totally different story. Just ignore em and if you think you are better, fight em. No need to waste 2 pages of useless comments on that subject.

-Third topic: Bull
Yes, we had some very annoying interferance from spectators, I am ashamed in their place. Some people simply can’t stand others having fun. I killed 1 guy from Deso shooting arrows at VcY in the middle of the fight and apparantly there was a thief roaming around too. I haven’t seen those VOLT members attacking. But I can assure you that from the hill side, nobody except the RIP guild member interfered in the fight.
Only thing I can say is shame on RIP and on VOLT. I can forgive RIP, because it apparantly was a quite new member. I am sorry you felt dissadvantaged. Maybe next time we fight we should keep the time and location within our guilds to avoid spectators and put atleast 15min delay on streams. Both guilds fought and acted nicely, we used equal numbers so +1 for that.

Now I think I covered everything in this 14 page long thread.

Psybunny.8906:

FASTCAR.7831:

Psybunny is one of those love to quote numbers guys….at LEAST know what you’re talking about. “Shield 3s+EP 3s+DP 3s,” EP is 3 sec? sure about that? what trait is 25% longer stance..any clue? How long is EP with 25% longer stance trait?
( clue…your off) I use a mace with shield.Says it blocks one hit but actually blocks for 1 sec I found. 2 × 6.5 sec EP+4 sec shield block+1 sec mace block…and there is even more actually
ALSO I have a trait at low damage I get auto EP for another free 6.5 sec.
PLEASE know a class and traits b4 you spout off facts.

I am not going to get into it with teeniebopper trolls who never even played a warrior nor even have a full heal set for ( insert class here) OR tested all classes in actual wvw.

Oh I’m gonna love this one. EP/DP last for 3 seconds, because they are bugged since the beta “nerf” to EP, the trait for 25% stance increase makes it into 5 seconds not 6.5, but you would know that if you’d actually test what you spew out. DP only triggers if you go down to 25% hp and you’re not oneshotted from 30% to 0% for example, they still have overlapping CD issues. Same thing with balanced stance and last stand. Shield stance lasts for 3 seconds not 4, surely you would know that. Why are you listing DP as “MORE” if you already counted it to 2x EP, or do you have some special EP that doesn’t have 90s cd? I’m fairly certain I’m a bit more experienced than you.

Wanna compare kittens with me? (pic attached)

EDIT: Thanks xiv, made me smile.
EDIT 2: Still waiting for a screen of that 50k hp FASTCAR.
This seems to be max if I’m not forgetting anything.
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|7.1d.9d.9.1d.9d|0.0.0.0.0.0|1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d|1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d|0.0.u000.u000.0|3t.0|0.0.0.0.0|e
and it’s way below what you claimed.

I see your 33.7k health and raise you 34.7k health
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|7.1d.9d.e.1d.9d|0.0.0.0.0.0|1d.7x.1d.7x.1d.7x.1d.7x.1d.7x.1d.7x|1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d.1d.9d|a3.0.u29c.u68c.0|3t.1|0.0.0.0.0|e

But yea many things OP stated are wrong. This doesn’t take away warriors are an awesome class and can do decent heals. Not the best, but you got to take the condition removal into account. And a decent build warrior is the tankiest thing in game.

This problem was for the entire EU, if you changed map, changed borderlands, tried to log in, join WvW you got kicked out. It happened to our guys it happened to your guys. We got a warning to not switch maps in TS, seems yours came a bit to late.

When the problem started, there was still some opposition from Vizu and Deso. After 3/4 of the time till it got fixed, they all logged. So yea it might have given us an edge because we stayed to play. But is was definitely not game breaking.

ps.: we had many guildies too waiting for hours to log back in.

tom.7468:

MiLkZz.4789:

People running around in WvW without stunbreaker or stability are hilarious.

I’m one of them and guess what? it works. I got tickled by 1 sec aoe fear by a necro yesterday. No reason to bring any defense to this. Those who run full bunker in wvw well yea they are hilarious. take a little longer to kill but is also no threat at all. So can let them live until the big guns is taken down.

Oh so you are my warrior’s ping pong ball? If I bring my guardian friends we can play soccer with you. Stability is the most important skill in WvW. Fight against a good group and they’ll make you cry if you run without it.

Heck in a group fight against RG, my stability got stripped and couldn’t get a new one because I was too far from the group. Next thing that happened was me bumping around, couldn’t get 1 skill off because off all the knockdown/stuns/fears/guardian bubbles. Felt like being a freaking pinball machine.

Stability not needed you say?

Necro fear build is strong, I don’t think you know how to play one reading your post.

1 more thing: get stability…………..

People running around in WvW without stunbreaker or stability are hilarious.

warning: objective post

-First topic: blobs
I see people claiming they fought 90+ player blobs. Now let’s analyze this claim. With the current WvW player cap system it is impossible to get 90+ players in 1 map. Let alone that I played WvW for an excessive amount of time in the past 2 months. And as I stated in earlier posts I like to count the amount of players. Now don’t come complaining I missed half because of culling, because I didn’t…I actually rarely lag and culling is only a problem when abused with portal running and mass invisibility. Anyway the big zergs most often referred too never go over 60 people. I have had 3 counts of 57 at garrison, 1 from deso, 1 from vizu and 1 from kodash. The biggest blob I have encountered and manage to count was from vizu and was 67 players. If you are really fighting a big blob, than it will contain a max of around 60-65 players. So don’t come here and put claims you got owned by 70+ zerg because you will make a fool out of yourself.

-Second topic: vizu trolls
I have to give it to Vizu, they really kept their trolls quiet this week. I got great respect for this. Ofcourse there was bashing on the forum, but not even half as hard as other weeks when SFR was in T1. And I got to say Deso and SFR had more active trolls this week, complaining and ranting than Vizu. So the “keeping it clean” award on the forums is for Vizu this week.

-Third topic: SFR
I see claims of SFR being a bandwagon server, that we get tired of WvW and that we are the next Blacktide. It is funny to read these comments, because when I started WvW 2 months ago, I read the exact same claims. SFR ain’t getting tired, you guys don’t know what happened to the Piken server and why these guilds joined us. So don’t write rediculous things about it. Again you are only making a fool out of yourself. But yes I got to admit we won this match up (not sure yet thou) because of these new guilds. But even without we would have made it back to T1 and claimed our #2 spot again. I am a realist, we are not going to kick you, Vizu, out of T1 anytime soon. But I can’t deny that this is our long time goal.

-Fourth topic: prime time
Yes, Vizu primetimes is indeed 9-11pm. And SFR primetime is right before yours. The weakest moment for any server is right after primetime. Because commanders + guild leave the map leaving unorganized pugs behind. This is an organisation flaw at our side, I know. But you feel it too Vizu at around midnight when we come back to play. Still you can’t deny SFR has an extreem strong primetime, just a shame you french are eating then.

Who is going to win next week? I don’t know and it is stupid to make claims about it. Just good luck too all. Thanks for the good fights this week. We owned hard, but we sure did got owned too. I still feel bad about losing 3 T3 keeps on SFR bl. And it wasn’t a pleasant feeling after having a relatively easy match-up previous week.

Cactus.2710:

dagneyandleo.6378:

I would agree, but I’ve dealt with the instant looting in LOTRO pvmp and all I can say is… Be careful what you wish for. If you think lag’s bad now, try having the server bogged down with 30 people looting at once.

Nonsense. I’d bet that it takes more bandwidth to render all those bags on the ground that it does to simply send a byte or two that logs the loot into inventory.

Not true bags don’t give lag and this is confirmed by Anet. Good luck being encumbered in the middle of a fight.

Soundchaos.3450:

MiLkZz.4789:

Out of 15000 kills I might have lost like 50-60 lootbags. So it ain’t a game problem it is your problem.

This will learn players to not chase, chasing loses you more time than picking up your bags.
If you die, you don’t deserve loot. And you can quickly respawn if you see you are getting wiped so the loot drops around you at spawn. If you don’t get wiped you get rezzed and pick up loot after.
Bags stay for 2 min, most fights are over before that. So take longer, but learn to multi task and pick em up while running and killing more enemies. I play engineer so I got a lot of buttons to press and still manage to do it.

Bags are fine, I love picking them up and they give great screenshots after wiping the enemy.

Did you consider how much easier and safer it is to pickup your loot on a range character when it spawns at your feet at 900+ range from the enemy than if you had to be in melee range to get your damage in? I don’t imagine you spend nearly as much time in the thick of a fight as a hammer warrior/guardian does for example. Fights on many tiers last for well over two minutes resulting in bags disappearing even for the victors. Melee miss out on many more bags than range characters do in those situations.

That said, if instant looting, a small aoe loot as someone else suggested, or even just adding a longer duration for bags so that larger fights have time to pan out makes looting as easy for a melee as it is for ranged without adding too much stress to the server in a large battle, I’m all for it.

I specify: I am a flamthrower/tank engineer and main a warrior as well. I never play ranged, that ain’t my playstyle. And no don’t find it difficult. And I play on SFR T1.

They both are equal to be honest, it is up to you which playstyle you like more.

I run a very heavy tank warrior (30k health 3.3k armor) and I am the first one to jump into a zerg. Which is good if you are a commander. I mostly die as one of the last ones.

My guild leader runs a tanky guardian with greatsword, so he can jump into the enemy really quickly too. And he rarely dies too.

They both are excelent choices. Damage, CC, heal, tanky wise they are very equal. Just the playstyle is different.

Shout out for a 1vs1 against the thief of expandable hord (or something like that) from desolation that killed a warrior (me) in a 8vs2 fight right outside the deso keep on EB.

You jumped on my grave in a 8vs2 while I didn’t jump on yours when I killed you 1vs1 and I didn’t even drop below 27k health… This is a last chance to restore your honour.

ps.: come on everyone saying thiefs are OP and warriors are crap, should be easy win for you no?

Out of 15000 kills I might have lost like 50-60 lootbags. So it ain’t a game problem it is your problem.

This will learn players to not chase, chasing loses you more time than picking up your bags.
If you die, you don’t deserve loot. And you can quickly respawn if you see you are getting wiped so the loot drops around you at spawn. If you don’t get wiped you get rezzed and pick up loot after.
Bags stay for 2 min, most fights are over before that. So take longer, but learn to multi task and pick em up while running and killing more enemies. I play engineer so I got a lot of buttons to press and still manage to do it.

Bags are fine, I love picking them up and they give great screenshots after wiping the enemy.

From what I have read/heard, Anet is working really really hard to improve WvW. Things just take time, apparently they are updating the engine to get rid of the culling. That takes tons of time.

The March update will contain tons of new things for WvW. So I don’t know where you get this idea.

Genev.2450:

ladyfabulous.1403:

Jue.6493:

Desolation needs to go to T2 until some things get sorted. Mainly the cooperation of certain guilds.

Try to use 1 TS for SFR/BT/FSP/DS/PS conglomerate the coordination will instantly be better!

I did hear Vcy is incredibly hilarious when drunk, something about a karaoke bot and bad singing… /ponder
I’d sure want to witness that, 1 TS might be the solution there :o

Who told you about our dolyak races and karaoke nights? About our song guessing contests and Vcy farming spots in WvW? We have never build 35+ rams at the north supply camp and we do not walk around on star wars music. We have never forced an enemy to take an other enemy tower either. We don’t all have stacks of 250 fireworks in our inventory. We don’t own a house at the north supply camp.

Because it all is a lie! We are mature, grown up players who take WvW very seriously! We do no such things. Fun is banned in our guild.

This basicly stated in an other thread that culling will be non-existant after the march patch. If I read and heard correctly (not 100% sure) they are updating their engine (which is kitten tons of work) to load things a lot faster. So hang in there, after the march updates you should see significant improvement in culling and skill lag.

I have been told that GW2 doesn’t fully make advantage out of multi-core processors. This bottlenecks many people their PC. Apparantly they are working on this too.

So yea, Anet could be a bit more open, but they sure are working hard and deserve some love.

Eniav.9064:

MiLkZz.4789:

To the GoD guild from Deso, please stop abusing the thief stealth off structures in the south east tower. Tought it got fixed :/. But really, I am dissapointed in you guys.

Seen the thief take the tower solo away from Vizu and he tried the same with us, althou he couldn’t because I kept chasin him away.

you didnt like me trolling you then? lol 99% of the time i was useing old perma stealth method useing blackpowder, and it was fixed you cant stack stealth of the walls anymore for a permanent stealth, cant really be dissapointed in a legitimate method^^.

Still I think it is lame, even if it is legitimate. Because a thief that doesn’t wants to be killed wont be killed, so you can spend 5min running around with 5+ people trying to kill him. That is just wrong, but I hope they fix that trait. Got nothing against thiefs, don’t know why people complain (mostly zerkers). But stealth deserves a nerf (other thread material).

Supprised to see Vizu out of their keeps sometimes, they even ran out of garrison to kill us outside. I was in shock, you guys seem to be able to learn after all :p. Hopefully this will make things a little more interesting. I even saw a tanky warrior today.

Oh well, 2 more hours of fun and Vizu wakes up again to zerg all things down.

To the GoD guild from Deso, please stop abusing the thief stealth off structures in the south east tower. Tought it got fixed :/. But really, I am dissapointed in you guys.

Seen the thief take the tower solo away from Vizu and he tried the same with us, althou he couldn’t because I kept chasin him away.

Surmaturma.4823:

It is not actually the night-capping that gives edge to anyone – there are pretty much battle ongoing till very early morning but then, you can check the trend from last few days starting from 8 in the morning what happens to green line

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/16/

This shows it perfectly, lowest score all day except between 4am-12am.

I don’t blame Vizu for capping kitten at this time interval, we all would do it too. But the hate against Vizu comes because they have only 1 good guild: WL. It is frustrating to lose from bad players just because you got a job, studies, family or simply have to sleep. During the day fights don’t even last 2s, one burst and all the enemies are dead. You just start to wonder, what am I doing here? It feels like Vizu ain’t even trying during day and primetime, they just think: let’s relax sit back and enjoy and take everything in the morning.

So it just frustrates anyone, if you have a life, you can’t win from Vizu. But I don’t care, I love my life to much. I just keep hoping for that big guild that protects our towers/keeps during the morning.

Worst downed state? A warrior says hi.

The ‘3’ is awesome, not every class needs to be able to interrupt or stop 5+ players of downing them the first time.

I have seen a cliff killing 25 people+

I don’t have the screenshot to proof it, but I am sure I can find somebody who took one.

Cliffs? I have no problems with them

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8493/gw081n.jpg

Krosan.2890:

So basically Deso and Sfr are holding hands again? And proceed to troll on these forums since they got a bunch of bandwagoners again and are trying to erase the last failure Sfr had?
Its funny how every server gets a huge arrogance boost everytime they make it back to T1 with the prime example being SFR.

Wait what? Last failure? Did I passed out for a week to miss a SFR failure, because I can’t recall one in the past 3 months.

SFR, went to T2 and came back to T1 with reinforcements. We are ready for the good fights, good luck to everyone and see you on the battlefield.

Could have been flamethrower ‘2’ skill, friend of mine does 14k burst damage with it. When we run together, we usually kill people just with our ‘2’ ;D. If you press f3 too, you can do 16k damage in 2-3s = dead thief or guardian.

This is a full zerker build, but hilarious.

When culling gets fixed, skill lag will be automaticly to.

So yes, it will get fixed. Read what Anet is working on and I am pretty excited, they really putting an effort in it.

covenn.7165:

Think about it this way., if autoloot put bags directly into inventory and didn’t have to render the stupid bag/chest models to your screen, it could potentially cut down on network load and make life easier for everyone.

No it wont