Guild Wars 2

Archmortal.1027:

Bluebird.1890:

Your suggestion is exactly what I was envisioning.

“We have the resources to go in these directions. Which does the community prefer?”

And then you have nobody that can claim that the developer isn’t holding true to the players wishes.

The problem we run into is when it’s a close vote. Something like a Presidential vote where one candidate gets 55% of the vote and the other gets 45%. I don’t think a content decision coming down that close should be acted on just because it barely won. This is about everyone’s entertainment, not the side that just barely has more people voting for it.

this is why i think the beta pop-up would work so well.
For anyone who doesn’t know, it was basically a rating from 1-5, with a series of questions e.g.
was this fun
how would you rate the difficulty
did you feel like you contributed
how much do you feel you have impacted the world
etc with a little box at the end where you could add comments

This way you can get a good idea of how the players actually view the content and make decisions accordingly or not if people are basically split about it.

ps: the questions aren’t accurate I basically paraphrased them from memory

See, now THIS is interesting.
It sounds like, in your opinion, the best solution here would be an avenue upon which we can actually judge the most popular opinion of the community instead of assuming the vocal forum contributors and Reddit community are the voice of the game.
Maybe a platform upon which we could vote for changes in gameplay design?
I like that a lot, actually.

Use the in-game system they used for feed back during the betas, it would work perfectly and would be input from people actually in the game.

@ Op- interesting post and I have wondered this myself.

I think a lot of it might have to do with fear, uncertainty and doubt.
Many people loved the game as it was and when such a change happens so suddenly and unexpectedly, the 3 horsemen run rampant spreading confusion as they go.
The initial silence from the team at Anet and then the infamous post by Chris only added to this.
To the middle-ground type of player the AMA helped to put things in perspective. At least it did for me. I’ll wait and see if/how they make good on what they said though.
I am still playing much the same as ever- there are some things that frustrate me, sure but they will hopefully be fixed before too long.
It is still an awesome game that does so many things right, so yes, I will play.

As others have said- do what you enjoy.
I was put off by the Nov patch too and the fact that Orr is a dead zone now- no pun intended.

Then I decided to finally level my alts and I am having a blast playing all three. All in different maps.
There are players around and nothing has changed that much at all- except that I think people are even nicer than before.

I just avoid LA like the plague and I look into Orr every now and then to see If I can get Balthazar going or not.
The rest of the time is spent happily adventuring
Gunnar’s Hold btw in case you are wondering.

I would really like this too- I hoped it would be part of the total makeover kit but no luck.
I would so pay for a name change

Hermes.7014:

Eh 3 and half gold for a character edit. It’s like going to a virtual plastic surgeon.

hahaha that made me laugh!
but when you think about that is exactly what it is

ComeAndSee.1356:

Cool! They just need a character rename and I’ll be happy.

Yes!
I really regret calling my ele Fainting Maiden- I can change her look so she doesn’t look so much like bambi anymore but that name!

Sals.9534:

My daughter is turning 7 this year. Is it ok to allow a child to play GW2?
I don’t want to introduce violence to young, but then again she does like the Power Puff girls cartoon and there is a lot of violence in that.

Would be great to duo with someone else, my wife tried EQ 7 years ago and told me to find someone else to play with. lol I guess she isn’t a fan.

So am I ready to share this with my daughter, I though I would have to wait till she was 10 but if it’s considered family entertainment, then I guess I need a second account.

I thinking I will give her my 80 Ranger and I’ll start a new character or vise versa? She would probably like to dress up a new character tho. She will probably like the character select the most.

You got me super excited GraynX

Thanks for the story

My daughter is 5 and she hates any form of violence and she has told me some movies that I thought was fine for her ( Toy Story/ Nemo) is not right for her- strangely she is completely not bothered by violence in GW2- to her it is just a game and she gets what is going on.
So I guess it depends on the child and how they experience things- you will know her best.
If you do get it for her I’m sure she will love character creation

Quick question- can you change your character name with the total option?

Are they out? not able to log in atm.

Razarei.2809:

Are all of you incredibly stupid and just want to speak words of hate for no reason or are you all unable to read?

AMA session anyone? Take your whining elsewhere.

Your post contributes what exactly?

In regards to the AMA- I am at least a bit encouraged to see that they acknowledge that the new content fragments the player base and drains player from the open world.

I will be interested to see how they fix this since I don’t think that just adding ascended gear in various other parts of the game will solve this issue. Although I am sure it will indeed help to free people from grinding fractals 24/7

The nature of DE’s demand players and it is getting hard to get anything done in the lower level maps let alone Orr. People need to be able to spread out through out the whole world. Since there are already a lot of suggestion on how to do this- I hope they read the suggestion forums

Awesome- as a gaming mommy I love it!
My husband and I play together and our daughter (5) loves sitting on his lap while we play.
She really wants her own account and we are seriously considering upgrading her pc so she can play too.
She wants to play a Charr ranger

Interesting post:
I see what you are saying and I agree that the world has incredible depth.
I do feel that more could be done with the characters but I am actually really happy with the traits and skills the way they are.

I do have a suggestion on character development that I would love to see though.
I loved the personal story in the game, I really would not mind if it continued in some way.
This is how I think it might be done
I loved the Orders and their different approaches to the world and I think it would be a nice aspect of character development or growth if they added more Order missions. Now that Zaitan is defeated, the Orders can focus on the remaining dragons and other regions of Tyria..
It would be awesome if you could participate in moving events forward towards the content in new expansions, that way your character is involved in the world in a personal way and it also broadens the scope and lore of the game.

I don’t know how well I explained what I mean but I hope you get what I’m trying to say.

I actually think it was a good AMA and I appreciated the fact that they owned up to mistakes that where made.
It also gives answers so that people can now decide what they want to do.
Ultimately it is up to each player.
Face it, no-one is perfect and the Anet team are just people like you and me, they are not gods.
I am sure that they do want to keep all sorts of players and play-styles happy in the game- they spent years building this world after all.
How possible that will be, remains to be seen.

This would be cool since both me and my husband goes “Ohhh dead guy, lets go get him”
whenever we see a downed player, heck even npc’s lol.
I think a simple message to the player like “help is on the way”, when you click on the icon is maybe the least trollable.

I don’t know Story books from GW1 since I only recently got it but I have also felt that we need more story in the game.
Since the personal story is very linear I would suggest a variety of Order Missions to choose from. This could be implemented either through your mail/ or as a quest board in your personal instance.
You get to choose which missions you would like to do at which time and preferably with more than one plan of action per mission.
I think it would be great fun and it would also help to flesh out our characters and the role of the Orders much more- I was always disappointed when the story arched away from the Orders.

Ha INTJ mesmer says hi

Hi welcome to the game. I hope you will love it.
Crafting is very useful in that you can kit yourself as you level and I found it rewarding and fun. don’t worry you will never lose your recipes.
the questing and Dynamic events in this game is awesome and gives you a great feeling of being involved in the world.
How lonely you are leveling depends a lot on your server. it is true however that the new dungeon swallows a lot of players but just today I was leveling my alt in the Norn lands and there where players everywhere so I suggest you get on a lively server.
All in all you have a lot to enjoy

Thanks Candlelight! I think I will give it a go and see if I can pull it off.
Pity I’m on Gunnar’s Hold Bvhjdbkjf.

Naw I wasn’t critisizing you at all
I would also really like to get that event going again since I love the Shadow Behemoth- once he spawned right on top of me, the first time I came into the swamp (lvl9 or so), I almost had a heart attack!
I would love to go pay him a visit now- evil grin

would love to know too.
I always thought the Beeltetun escort event was part of it somehow and the corrupted Oakheart event.
You sound like you have a better idea how it all fits together. It was so long ago for me that it is all a bit hazy.

good luck trying to do DE’s with some ganker deciding that killing you is more fun than actually completing the mission.
Eh OP- I would love to say to you that this will never happen in GW2- but then I thought we would never have a gear treadmill either. so what do I know.
That would be the day I leave and never look back though.

I’m doing Caledon currently for my 100%.
I think of it as a nice holiday, where the wildlife might bite but they can’t really hurt, unless you are really stupid.
It’s pretty and restful.
I would have liked if it scaled you down even more because your gear does make it too easy.
Ideally it should have scaled you some 3-4 levels under the local wildlife.
And ramped the reward to scale to your lvl.

Ahhh— thanks for the info :0
In that case yes I’m totally with you Arah is open on my server now (GH) but it doesn’t happen often

sorry to be totally off topic but do you get gift of Zhaitan for story completion or completing Arah? story mode? paths? I guess it is not personal story huh?
Balthazar also needs some love
so OT: signed/ love for all the Orr events.

welcome to Tyria,
I am so glad that you enjoy the amazing things this game has to offer.
I agree with you that is so nice just playing with others in the world and seeing it for the great work of art it is.
You will have amazing adventures and cool war stories to share for sure
If you are ever on Gunnar’s Hold look me up for anything (except dungeons, I am allergic to them )
Have a great game

Nice!- thanks

I found South Shore pretty but very unfinished, maybe it is just a case of not having enough content yet but the zone is tiny and there is nothing there.
It feels more lifeless than Orr to me.
eh I Like Orr, I like the vibe and the map chat- hopefully people will return there soon.
I even have favorite risen enemies

I’m surprised no one here mentioned Mesmers
I doubt that they are the best but I find my Mesmer does a ton of CD.
I have a full carrion set with undead runes and sigil of corruption on my staff.
I have a strange build:
0
0
20: v, x
20: v, i
30: v, vii, x
my auto attack on my staff is: 2646
my health pool is: 21 582

All in all I find this very versatile and effective. DoT is obviously better on champs or veteran bosses but I find that I can take down multiple normal mobs without paying much attention to them.
It also helps that I can take a few hits.
ps my other weapon is GS

I use this:
http://dulfy.net/2012/08/28/guild-wars-2-karma-vendor-list/

It lists all the Karma Vendors per map.
I visited them with my main, bought all the recipes and stashed it in my bank for the appropriate alts to collect and learn
Hope this helps

Not in game now so can’t check but what about Myami? ( ?? Mystic Forge Vendor )
Master Crafter?
Otherwise probably a drop in FoTM.

Thanks OP- as an older gamer myself I agree with you.
I am unhappy about the changes to the game yes and I threw my fair share of hissey fits but I love this game and I will wait for a response.

I never actually got it, neither is it in my spam box. My husband did however

Thank you Sumii- that is a very clear breakdown of the issues and I agree with it 100%
We can only hope that we do get a clear statement since it would go some way toward re-establishing good will

Isslair.4908:

It seems FotM is actually a cruel plan of dragons to destroy all resistance.
While every hero of Tyria is trying to get into the new dungeon, risen are rebuilding their forces.

Oh brilliant! that made me laugh so much Thanks!

I hate Dungeons and I refuse to do them.
I loved Orr, not for the farming but for the constant events, the Temple runs and the map chat.It was a really lively map.
I also have alts.
It is lonely.

cegorach.5624:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Well, there’s the thing . . . I don’t just receive pleasure from those things consumerism can get me. I won’t deny they’re pretty fun and I definitely enjoy having spent money on games. (Not just this one.)

On the other hand, I enjoyed learning how to cook a risotto. I enjoyed checking out a renaissance faire. I enjoyed going to visit friends one year for Thanksgiving and basking in their camaraderie. I enjoy my work. I enjoy the appearance of a cleaned and straightened house, along with the smell of fresh laundry. I enjoyed going camping growing up, and earning the right to do so without my parents supervising me.

All of these things require effort, even if it’s not on my part. None of it is “free”.

Edit: Actually, to explain why I say that, the thing about sitting under the tree? I have a tree in my backyard, but I also live in a part of the US where there exist an abomination known as “fire ants”. I could go out there at random and sit under the tree and look at the sky . . . but I would rather go out there after I spread ant killer pellets so I don’t come in with bite sores on my back and legs.

Nice ants comment

You’ve named a handful of things that you enjoy. But there are probably millions of moments in your life just as enjoyable that bring pleasure without requiring ‘work’ (note that it’s not ‘work’ if you enjoy it).

*My point is that from quite a few philosophical standpoints, the ‘all rewards must come from hard work’ is a pretty dubious notion. It’s part of the Protestant work ethic mythology that has been heavily propagandised into American ideology, as well as a few other nations.

I fully accept that many people believe it to be a fundamental aspect of reality, in the same way I fully accept many people believe a deity of their choice is a fundamental aspect of reality.

I don’t accept that people believing it makes it a fact, far from it.*

So what I am getting at with this thread is whether people who have that rather extreme ideological view – ‘all rewards must come from hard work’ – apply it equally to virtual environments or not and if not, why?

I understand what you are saying and I have wondered this myself. My husband and I have discussed this many times.
How it relates to games, I think depends on many things: how the avatar is perceived by the player, the nature of the particular game and also the player’s real world views to some extent.
I think our society has a very hard time freeing themselves of the “nothing comes of nothing” mentality.
People who identify strongly with their in game characters, or invest a lot of time in a game, want to see them grow in one way or another. That is fun to them and it may even take effort, but it is not work.
Some players say that they don’t want to create a second job in a game and yet that is exactly what they end up doing, while other are content to just float around and smell the roses.
How all this may correlate to players real world views, I have no idea. It is an interesting subject.
I just realized I contributed nothing to it

I’ve seen this too.
If I’m feeling brave my husband and I dive in and try to un-contest them.
Unfortunately because the map is largely empty they don’t stay that way for long and you can be happily playing around to find that your retreat path has been locked behind you, just when you are being face stomped by some baddy.
I do hope that people will be returning to other maps once the shine wears off South sun.
unfortunately a lot of people are vanishing into the FOtM

I’m with Tanith so I’m group Z

but I want to add that I also love DE’s and my concern is that Ascended gear will empty the world into the FoTM so that that becomes inpossible- so make that Z1

Another thing is that I now have less desire to lvl my alts- so may be a Z2?

there was a thread like this yesterday- it was locked.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Lost-Shores-A-Cry-for-Help/first
Obviously they don’t want us discussing it

I would craft Ori jewelry- in fact that is what I am doing.
I am a rebel and refuse to have anything to do with this ascended crap.
It is your choice of course, if you like dungeons by all means get the dungeon jewelry.

Mandrax.7342:

The fact that they closed the massive thread with all the feedback on the ascended gear shows that they aren’t interested in conversing with us.

That is my feeling too.
I am also reminded of Bioware and yes seeing all those interviews of the GW2 team, the photo’s on FB and the joy that they had in the game, breaks my heart..
I simply cannot understand the silence.
At this point it will even be a improvement if they outright say that they have lost control of their company, because then at least these changes and the change in attitude towards the players will make some sense.

In reply to the OP:
I will not be getting ascended gear- I hate the direction this game is taking.
I will play the game as long as it allows me to play the way I want, while having fun doing it.
when that stops or becomes impossible, I will stop too.

The fact is we need a real statement.
This is not going to go away, the more time passes, the more obvious it will be how badly the the game was damaged by this.
Locking the threadnaught seems like an attempt to silence players on the issue.
This is not right.
If they have really heard our voices they should acknowledge it.
And no- I don’t mean a ridiculous PR piece that is an insult to my intelligence.

I don’t get you people- the complaint on these forums for months surrounding precursors was the ridiculous RNG attached to the precursor from the mystic forge.
The solution Anet saw fit was to throw precursors at people in a one time event (RNG).
This is not smart- it is extremely stupid and you only have to head over to the crafting forum to see that people with a bankroll are buying them up for cheap and expect fully to control the market in another week.
So stop.
Read the suggestion forum, there are plenty of ways over there to address precursors.
Those ideas do not involve the Lotto.
Also the rest of the world does not live in the US so keep your politics out of this discussion.
You may not agree with the OP, but enough with the name calling.
Also just stop with saying this is the nature of MMo’s , “oh you are so naive”
- you are, for being conditioned to think like that

Raf.1078:

He could always roll an alt that could use it, Morrigan.

GW2 Forums…home of the “entitlement crowd”.

I had to work that day. No problemo…its just a game, right?

I realize that, but since I am not this person I cannot tell you why he has not done that.
I can only tell you what he said, he held onto it in order to make more money off the TP- My post was in response to the OP
For me the final event was 9. 0 clock on a Monday morning, so kindly don’t call me entiteled- I am 41 with a life.
@ xtorma- could you clarify because I don’t understand what you are talking about.

Thank you Op – it made me laugh.
and then it made me cry because even though this is a conspiracy theory it rings all too true
edit: following your post to GuRu

I know someone who did get one and it is not even a weapon usable by their class.
This person is sitting on it now waiting for the market to once again go up so he can make more than 80 g.
I also know of some free trials that have gotten a precursor, which frankly slaps the people who have worked months to gamble in the forge, in the face.
I missed the event, so I obviously didn’t get anything for it, it was my choice.
So yes OP, I agree with you.
There are many suggestions on the suggestion forum on how to handle the precursor issue.
Sadly it was not listened to.

Rpgtabbycat.5869:

I wasn’t expecting ascended gear. But when I saw there were Legendary weapons and Legendary pvp armor, I fully expected them to add Legendary PvE armor into the mix. I guess I was the only one that was expecting that to happen.

No, I was fully expecting Legendary Armor since it only makes sense.
I did however expect Legendary Armor to have the same stats as Legendary Weapons, which had the same stats as Exotics.
This makes it optional and not a requirement and entirely a matter of vanity and bragging rights. As it should be.

Ryuujin.8236:

Morrigan.2809:

Wintyre Fraust.6534:

If what you find fun is the ability to max out characters and suit them up with maxed out gear and dress them up cosmetically and take them around the world doing stuff, playing with different builds and weapons, then – especially as a casual player – this game can no longer be fun, because in order to have a maxed out (stat-wise) character we’ll have to do nothing but gear grind – which is not what we do for fun.

thank you!
concise and to the point- good luck with getting that across in this tread.

I think the post also sum up an issue with people’s thinking, one I see too in the legendaries.

Note that he considers himself a casual player, and yet he feels he must have ascended items before he is complete. I consider myself pretty hardcore, but even I am in no hurry to chase ascended gear, while vastly cheaper than legends, they are insanely more expensive than exotics.

Is this some kind’ve throwback of “other MMOs” where people assume that they both must and can get the top tier of gear in the shortest time possible?

No- it is about not having to bother with gear ever again.
Also for someone who plays alts and also likes to experiment with different builds, I can tell you that exotics don’t come cheap in those circumstances.

Getting a set of Ascended gear with on my main is not only expensive it is an unspeakable grind. Never mind the alts. Never mind different builds.
I have decided to just go for a Legendary instead, since at least this is a chore I can pick for myself.
Also you might gather from this post “the shortest time possible” is not a factor and no it is not a throwback from other MMO’s it is a result of a stated design philosophy from Anet-
I couldn’t care less about other MMO’s