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and no he did not use the elixer that made him small nor did he ahve the one that procs at 25% hp

I jst played spvp and i fought this engi…. i got him down to 30% hp. after that 0 of my condis applied to him everyime i tried it said IMMUNE. ive been trying to figure out what made him immune for 20+ secs. instead of jumping straight to hacking. I play a condi mes. he was using a lot of turrets+ bomb kit and a rifle. I think he was using healing turret- rifle turret- rocket turret- bomb kit- supply drop.

My teammate and i were 2v1ing him. and when he got to 30% hp. every condi said immune. i would screen shot my combat log but condis do not show up on log + neither does immune. any ideas?

Which site do you think has the ebst gw2 forums? as in positive and ppl that aren’t kittens all the time.

a t s e.9614:

Sure mesmer is balanced that’s why 50% of people in dueling servers are mesmers.

you mispelled thief.

eh yes and no because its prety tanky but if you summon illusions in zergs they will get demolished also no mobility but it could work with 3 illusions up you heal around 1,5k per 3 sec which is decent it heals more then the heal sig war uses

Hey guys I didnt realize how much regen my build actually had but when i went to test it, it out regens a warrior with full healing power.

warrior:496 heal per sec= 1488 health per 3 sec

My build: 160 heal per sec(perma regen)=480 health per 3 sec
1050 heal per 3 sec(sig of ether)+ 480 heal per 3= 1530 hp per 3 sec

Warrior= 1488 health per 3 sec
My mes= 1530 health per 3 sec

I constantly have 3 illusions up in my build, its a no shatter illusion build so if one dies it instantly gets replaced. Also I only run about 500 healing power. With full healing power I heal for 2,065 per 3 sec.

Build is here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Fairytail-s-Finest-Build/first#post3881780

wait wait one more thing. utilities. decoy good. tele good. mirror bad. 36 cd for what? two clones= 5 1/2 sec of confusion on shatter or 10 with cry. so its 33% uptime if u use cry and thats rounding up. your basically using up a utility spot with 36 sec cd just for 1 shatter and nothing else.

a few choices… could go any way:

Idisenchanter: good condi remove with 16 sec cd? plus grants regen because of insipration trait 15 compare this to mirror image (idisenchanter-miriror image)
cd:16-36
illusions 1-2
condi remove1-0
regen: 1-0
dmg:156-0
team condi remove:1-0
The team play utility along with jst condi removal IMO is way better then using mirrior image kittenter bait.

option 2:
Sig of domination: passive adds condi dmg and active is a 3 sec stun.

Being a fellow condi mesmer ik how annoying it is to almost kill someone to have them heal up. if you know how to look for skill ques you can interupt their heals or other important moves and it puts it on a 4 sec cd. the down side? 45 sec cd. its one step up from mirror image but not better then idisenchanter.

option 3:
arcane thievery: steal 3 boons transfer 3 condis
this skill is fun and amazing at the same time lol

Stability is a boon…. steal dat.. but this gives more survivability and more damage two fold because you send condis over then get boons, if that boon happens to be might then you jst threw more condis while gaining might. if its a might warrior.. then congratulations you just earned 20+ stacks of might. down side is the cd+ it has a 1/2 sec channel time which means it can be interupted but it will rarely happen.

Once you play more you realize that mirror image is not very useful and its jst fodder for shatters with no utility otherwise. only utility is throwing it up to get distortion.

if you have a staff you are basically set on clones. i also use staff and DE and it is way to much. i am constantly exploding clones jst because i cant do anything with them.

Other then that the build is great!

Honestly you dont need DE. if you are spamming shatters your doing it wrong. yes you cn spam 1/2 shatter but the other two should be saved for special moments plus you need to watch the condi remove. if you stack burst to uch they will jst hit one cleanse and bye bye. but if you time out your shattesr correctly you should do fine with jst staff/ scep jst keep the autos up with scep

also if you want a pu build with this its not ideal seeing how you are locked in to 0/0/30/0/30. if you did id put 10 in dueling and get retalitory shield because with retaliation it hits back obvi and u have confusion which hits back too and then you ahve torment which is movenment based so yea…

Take out all its from domination. vuln on daze is terrible for condi builds as vuln only affects direct dmg. Dissapting clones only wrks if they are killed by an enemy and since this is a shatter build ur clones will not be up for long. same with debilitating dissipation. if anything maybe spec 30 to inspiration and get condi removal or heal on shatter? both will suffice but those “on kill” do not work wen shattered. either make it 0/0/20/20/30 or 0/5/5/30/30. 5/5 because vigor will help out a lot and honestly theres not to many minors that can help this build so regen is meh. or maybe get 10 dueling and get retalotory shield?

I jst 2v1 a guard and a decap engi at hammer x_x no clue why they were both there but my regen was out healing their dps… jst saying oh and it was a zerk guard

Raunchy.6891:

Seems like an ok PU variation. Interrupts just seem unnecessary to me, but if it works for you great.

I was skeptical too about the interruption. when i first started i toyed with a PU mesmer and only had sig of domination to interrupt. I tested around a bit and this is where i ended up. If you think about it, interupt+ condi is way strong.
Reason being:

condis take time to deal their dmg, thereis no such thing as burst condi other then burst stacking which is different, so in order to do damage as condi, you need time, and what do interrupts do? they stall, they give time to allow the dmg to tick. it also instils panic to the enemy because they have a decision to make, stun break? condi remove? what do i do?

Another reason interrupt is good is because it stops heals/ condi active condo removal, while alot of builds do have passive condi builds or unstoppable condi remove, if someone has active condi remove you can stop that.

I suggest that you and anyone else that cares to try something new to try this. I has a really high skill cap its really tanky esp with the regen going on and protection.
I dare argue that this is the best PU build out there right now. so try out the interrupts its better then you might think, also might gives condi dmg and ive easily gotten 25 stacks.

Reseverd for goodies

Gear

Weapons:
Staff: Autos give boons/ condis

1. gives good disengage.
2. applies decent dmg but more importantly bleed on crits.
3. good defensive
4. CAN INTERRUPT, gives good boons/ condis

Scepter:
auto is meh. get clones

1. block goes along with retalitory shield for some retaliation.
2. this is a condi build….. free 5 stacks of confusion.

Pistol:

1. this. thing. does. work. (bleed on crit) so lets say our phanta hits all crits. thats 8 stacks of bleed alone. not including you attacking or your other two illusions. sometimes you can even get two of these phantas out. GG
2. This also goes along with the interrupting part of the build.

Spvp:
Rabid(+Perc, Condi dmg, Tough)
Runes- Undead
Sigils- Staff(Purity) Scepter/ Pistol(Purity/ Earth)

WvW:
The gear I used is in the build link. its a mix of condi stuffs.
Runes: I recently switched to Perpelxity and they are amazing. I do realize they are getting a nerf Apr 15 but i will still use them
Sigils: Currently I use the same as PvP, But when the new patch hits I will be using the ones in the link. A bulk of my condi removal just comes from crits.

Heal/Utilities

For the heal I use Signet of Ether. The reason is because we do not shatter in this build period. on top of that the active heal is pretty high given it has such a strong passive. Oh and cope this with perma regen/ the protection………..

Utilites:

Now don’t forget folks that this is some what of a PU build so first is:
Decoy not only does it stealth you, it throws up a clone in your spot AND its a stun breaker. This utilitly can be a play maker. Other skilled players Know most PU builds ahve decoy, so they watch for when the Mesmers movements stop or change, this hints to them that they used decoy, now for the mind games. act like a clone there has been multiple times where i have stood stilll acting like a clone while the enemy smashes thru the others, and when he gets to me i stand still and decoy, then run behind him. this will give the illusion that you are still standing there, but in reality you arent.

Signet of domination: Passive goes along with the condi build just by giving it condi…. the active goes along with the Interrupting portion of this build. if you get an interrupt you get boons and also it sets the enemies skill on a 4 sec cd.

Mantra of Distraction:Just like the last utlity, this goes along with the interrupt portion of the build. People underestimate the power of interrupts, but what will you do when your heal gets interrupted? or how about thieves stealth? or maybe a warriors hundred blades? Interupts will save your kitten.

Elite theres not much to say, its pretty obvious why I chose mass invis. PUUUU. one thing that some playser do not know, is that with PU, every second you sty in stealth you gain a bon, its not only when you first are granted stealth, so every second you will stack either aegis, regen or protection.

Pros:
Perma Regen
70ish% Protection uptime
great condi dmg.
NOT relient on PU
Passively regenerates health almost as good as War sig.
Counter plays relient on skill (interrupt)
Can 1vx very well.
Not relaying on stealth means you can hold points
Pretty tanky, not the tankiest but wont die to two BS from thief.

Cons:

Meh mobility. #mesmer problems
Damage is one step under Amazing
PU does mean you will be in stealth at least a little, so decaps can happen.

Final Notes:
PU. Purely defensive, use to gain tactical advantages and confuse your opponent. Also this is one of the best escapes for us.
Intterupt. Counter plays are amazing with these.
Illusions. NO SHATTERING keeping illusions/ phantas up gives:
-regen
-more regen from Heal skill
- Bleed on crits.
-Confused enemy.(lel)

GLHF

Note: I do not yet own full ascended, jst exos.
Oh and the build name comes from my character/ acc name.. plus mystogan is awesome.

Introduction: Hello all, I am a fellow mesmer and I’ve been wanting to share my builds for a while but have never had the time to do so. I have two variations, one Shatter and one NO Shatter Condi. The build I am sharing now is NO Shatter Condi. It is for SPvP and WvW Roaming/Small groups. This build does not work in PvE because it is a condii build that relies on countering the enemy at crucial times.

There are three parts to this build, PU, Interrupt and illusions.

The Build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vgAQNAW7ansISja2gG2oB3aGRM9I48Ng78BorMDc7CB-zECB4iCyUgBmKBKFtIasl1FRjVPTQWpETHLpkCAbpRA-w

THIS BUILD OUT REGENS MOST HEALING SIG WAR.

Now I know everyone rolls their eyes to another PU build but this is different.
First off, I only run PU in Small groups WvW and in sPvP i only run PU for Defense.
Second, even when I do run PU Its only used for defense.

Traits When i made this build I focused on something that I can use in both sPvP and WvW. The set up is: 0/25/30/15/0

Dueling:Why dueling?
Trait 5: gives vigor on crit which really helps with dodge.
Trait 10 :Phanta fury for bleed on crits*
Trait 15: This is the main reason why we are here. Illusions bleed on crits. This will make sense later.
Trait 20: Dodge roll leaves behind an illusion. This + vigor is amazing. 90% of the time you will always have 3 illusions up.
Trait 25: This gives our illusions defense, and since this is not a shatter build, the only way illusions leave the field are if an enemy kills it or you summon another one.

Chaos: As I said before, This is a PU build, but it is NOT PU reliant, PU is used defensively.

Trait 5 Regeneration is good. =]
Trait 10 This trait gives even more effects if an enemy kills an illusion giving them even a harder choice, Kill or not to kill?
Trait 15 Regeneration grants Protection This. Is. Clutch. Not only now do you regen hp, you take 33% less damage too. This plays a big role in The next trait choices.
Trait 20 Now we are starting to get in to the counter play of enemies, and it shows why I picked the utilities like I did. Every time you interrupt an enemy, You gain 5 stacks of might + a random boon. With this trait alone I have achieved 25 stacks of might, Yes for 6-ish secs but still….
Trait 25: Grants condi based on toughness. This helps because now you can stack toughness and get both offensive and defensive value from it.
Trait 30: Now I use both Chaotic interuption and PU. its a 30%-70% Split (CI-PU). PU is amazing for get aways. its defensive value doubles because of the Protection when you Regen. CI is amazing IF used right. I would not recommend CI for new players because it needs knowledge of other classes and skill hints.

Inspiration:Wha? Why phantas you ask?

Trait 5: Even more defense for you phantasm on top of confusion, weakness, bleed on death.
Trait 10: Now the one thing this build lacks is HIGH condi removal, With this and the other ways to remove condi makes this build have decent condi removal.
Trait15: My favorite trait for this build. Phantasms grant regen to nearby allies…. So since we are not shattering. its perma regen + Goodbut not perma Protection. Standing near a phantasm will stack up the regen and protection.

Demented Sheep.1642:

Is anyone else kind of disappointed in phantasms? I feel like my Mesmer is most uncreative or arrogant illusionist in existence. Clones should obviously look like you but there is no reason why a phantasm should as they aren’t there to confuse who the real Mesmer is. They could be anything! They could be used to terrify and unsettle. They could be completely unnatural wtfkery. Unfortunately they are mostly just a see-through pink version of you doing a modified version of another classes attack. I suspect this us for cost but still, missed opportunities.

Clones do look like you, phantasm ob dont because yhet all do something special. how do you expect a phanta duelist to shoot while wielding a scepter or sword? the reason they are pink is so YOU dont get confused with yourself. to enemies they look just like u. and the class is only “creative” if you make it creative

can two sigils proc on one crit? say i had generosity and purity. will it cleanse two? or jst 1

and its not plenty of time for 1 person to decap or cap apoint uve been standing on. and not everyone plays pvp competitively. some ppl play for fun with their friends so not everyone has to play the meta

because i play mesmer not guard

Thedenofsin.7340:

It’s so reliant on stealth that I cannot see this as a good side-bunker build. For mid fights, it lacks group utility. It’s definitely not a roaming build.

If Illusionary Membrane had an 8 second cooldown instead of 15, I’d see this build being a decent side-bunker with staff, rabid amulet, Null Field and forge/undead runes.

Question have you played alot of PU build? Im jw becuase i see alot of ppl say that PU is heavily stealth reliant. Im not trying to insult you or anything, but PU is really good in pvp.

Theres two diff playstyles of PU.
First is the stealth PU:
which almost everyone is aware of. this relies on stealth obviously while either leaving up clones for condi or using phantasms to deal damage. THIS playstyle is terrible for pvp because stealth on point does nothing.

The second is the PU dancer:
This playstyle includes ONLY using PU for either aegis/ boons, confusing the enemy on position and escaping( mainly wvw) This build is extremely good for pvp because it does not rely on stealth. it relies on confusing your enemy and gaining boons while dancing out of stealth. At most I will be in stealth for two seconds just to get aegis and extra boon, then move a little to confuse on positioning while either holding a point or capping it.

I think most of the gw2 community thinks PU is heavily stealth relient because thats how 90% of the players use it. but theres the 10% that know how well it works as a stealth dancer instead of staying ins tealth all the time. Also all the new players/ noobs that join pick up PU and play it stealth heavy because stealth is the ultimate defense, esp agaisnt newer players.

I suggest that ppl go try playing PU and ONLY go in stealth when they want aegis or some positional advantage or when they want to escape. The problem is, most new players do not know when they are going to need aegis or what big hits to dodge so instead they will stay in stealth more then needed.

Can I buy the digital copy on their website and give it to a friend? if i can how do i do it without it going on to my acc?

How r they nerfing lyssa runes

I love pu in spvp. I also run pu its really stonk if uk how to play it i have some build/ playin tips

Build: take out phantasmal fury and put in retalitory shield. Fury is not needed with suffecient percision. Since i suggest taking tetalitory shield, id use scepter torch instead of gs.
Pros of switching, more retaliation more stealth

Next id change bonitful interuption to the trai that takes 3% less dmg with illusions up. The name escapes me.
Reason being this build is not set up for interupts ik you have termporal and woth gs u have iwave but both have massive cd and when pulling multiple enemies you are banking on luck that all of them will b interupted. Also yhis would help swtich to sceptorch

Conclusion:
taking the changes i suggested gives even more survivability while only losing bontiful which is very situational with ur current build and fury to phantasmas which if u are around 30_40% youdont need.

Idk how experimced you are but im jst throwing sum tips out there for spvp.
Dont sit in stealth long eap with lyssa runes.if you have clones up stand on the point andstand still the enemy will most likely painc and attack clones while u are still holding the pt.
if ur doing solo q check out the enemy teM and change up the mantra because woth ur survivability, if they cont have a decap engi or a heavy condi u will not need ghe mantra.

Sry for typos on my phone!

Swish.2463:

To answer the basic question posed, People view PU as OP and Cheese because of two major reasons.

1. It relies heavily upon stealth, which has 0 hard counters in game at this time.

2. Mesmers can summon Clones, Phants and have them do damage. This damage and summoning process does not De-stealth the Mesmer.

People tend to frown upon PU for similar reasons to frowning upon MM Necros or Spirit rangers. When in a battle with any of these builds, you are fighting off AI more than you are the actual player.

It’s not fun to fight against, and it’s not very fun to play (IMO) either.

And as stated above, its a poor choice for more hardcore sPvP matches as it is neither a bunker nor a decap centric build. Aka, it doesn’t hold points and it doesn’t cap points half or even 1/4th as well as other builds or other professions.

then why isnt phanta builds looked down on gs-x/p phantas full zerker while stealthed can jst kill u with phantas and no one complains about that. all AI and sitting in stealth. alot of mesmers damage can come from AI other then shatter/ glamour builds.

Raunchy.6891:

General consensus among players is that it’s too passive of a play style to be considered “good”. I think PU builds require a good amount of timing, though not necessarily skillful play. Even though they’re very forgiving, blowing all of your stealth skills in a short period makes you very very vulnerable. Not to mention the fact that all of our stealth skills are on pretty hefty cooldowns.

Its only passive if you play it passive I actually play a PU interupting shatter mes and it takes alot of skill timing, knowing enemy skill hints n stuff to get interrupts. i only use the pu part to flash stealth to gain some boons n stuff or to escape. PU is noob or new to gw2 friendly because it is forgiving just like warriors are but if you are skilled its even better if you combine pu with other builds/ skills

condis work fin in pve but its not close to the zerker meta

The reason why ppl think Pu is op is because it is very forgiving. the PU can make use of almost every utility giving it alot of diversity. just like alot of ppl think sig war is op but thats also because the build is forgiving. alot of the pu build relies on keeping clones up which can be maintained in many ways. if you miss a move or two as a pu mesmer oppsed to a lock down interrupt mesmer, the pu one is way mroe forgiving. PU is really strong but it isnt op imo ppl that know how to play usually put up a really good fight and dont complain or they end up winning because they are better.

jst play warrior pve pvp wvw lol msot forgiving easiest class highest base stats. anet loves teh wars

ICD or no? /15char

Why do we only have to complete 2 dailies this month? is it split from pre patch and post patch or what?

no you will do no damage.

needs skill points like the rest. water spirit was added as a new heal skill along with others for diff classes. it cost 25 skill points if its not letting you buy it with 25 pts submit a report ticket

Errr try more then on ur ele? You might be use to playong ele because ele needs alot more put in to the class for output compared to ranger. Not saying its bad just with the rotations and everything theres alot more dmg split in elements so elehavr to put in work. And spirit rangers hrlp in wvw and trappers but not as much as eles do imo

I dont use zerker.

Well i tested 25% crit chance and it hits way more often then
Ud think its more 33% -43%. So with fury on gs itd prob hit 1 every 2 hits . And im fairly new to ranger so idk what good stats are for this class. Like for war it diff. Having 3k arm is standard along with 3.4k att minimum and 20k hp. So i was just wondering how my stats compare

Sry 2.1k armor lol 2.1k tough is over the top

Is 4k att to much? My stats are :
4k att
26% crit chance
70% crit dmg
2.1k tough
23k hp

hey guys ive been trying to do some calculations with dmg but im having difficulty understanding

Damage = Weapon strength * Power * Skill coefficient / Armor

This is apperntly the formula for damage. what is skill coefficient and where does crit factor in? is it before or after this? if anyone can link me the formula for crit it would help a lot. thanks

If he goes spectral he can have perm swift mm isnt a good idea because relies on ai. and mainly weapon skills. if he wants to stay mm he needs to use flesh worm for escapes shadow for blind and devour or bone minions. prob something like 20/0/30/0/20 or 30/10/20/0/20 Those would be good for condition. if he wants power he might want some crit chance

Jhughes.8341:

and 916 toughness I would assume?

1016- 1416. depends

I run a power ranger with 3.8k att 25k hp 69 crit dmgg

Has anyone tried a full pvt build like this:http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vIAQJASTjMd04ZlHuewJaAB9QDrCuwU4HSPQjxINA-zkBBofBiKIQpmFRjtquIasKbYqXER1BAOAY4ApAEUZE-w

Im sure the damage is jst to low to kill anything.

thanks for the fix 100x bettr
least someone is nice around here

To deal with condis i jst switch up my utilities. Jst cause those are the ones i put up doesnt mean they dont get switched. Codni removal shout/ sig and sometimes i change the vit trait to use “shake it off” wen u get a condi. As i said i switch weapons too. Gs for mobility and sometimes bull charge utility. Depends what im doing. Condi temoval is ez. Same with mobility. U can throw any weapon u want in there. Even traited WH

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vIAQNAS3ejMd04ZlHuewJaABVQDNP+hg4/SPQjxINA-z0BB4fCyEBBiKAO3sIasV1FRjVhET7iIqOAwBADP8wDP8wlCgilRA-w

Been playing warrior a lithe while now and just thought id share my build =]

It has 30k hp
3.7k att
2.5k tough
71% crit dmg
26% crit chance

Feel free to leave feed back, also weapons change a lot from LB GS Axe Hammer Sh.. usually the only ones i use

Can u buy the toxic recipe off tp? Also discovering exotics is pricy cause t6 mats and globs

Currently sitting at 467 trying to get to 500. Jst crafted everything i needed for m ascended and now idk how to grt to 500 so i can put the mats together. Is there an easy way?

Id love to help out but ive never done a podcast or anything like one lol i specialize i. Power necros in dungeons and wvw. I do dabble in condi from time to time but i find it to be less effective for my playstyle

Its mainly for zerg back line and gvg stuff. I use a diff one for roaming which ill share ltr

Hi, Ive been getting requests in game to post the build i use for WvW so here it is. Its a well build with high crit and sustain. Enjoy! feel free to criticize!(food and oil in build)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vQAQNBIhZakkmiabpxnG2bTAyMu+ZIF5ibMDkHG-z0BB4fCiEBgUBBKPtIaslNFRjVbDTFjIqmUAsJMC-w