Guild Wars 2

trytonianYeti.4389:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

My feelings are mixed on this.

A third of me says “OP is bsing, Condi Reaper is amazing.”
A third of me says “necros deserve it for being bagfodder for the longest”
A third of me says “why is this necro losing to a warrior”

Absolute 100% of me says “THIS DUDE MUST BE A BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD WARRIOR If he loses to necros regularly”

Literally all you have to do is kite the warrior with rs2 and hopefully wurm if your a smart necro while zerker stance is up, once it’s over warrior is a free kill.

cakeonroof.7385:

NeXeD.3042:

trytonianYeti.4389:

cakeonroof.7385:

Eurantien.4632:

cakeonroof.7385:

But Their hardest counter is the warrior, and it’s always been the warrior. Warriors lack playtime atm but even the core rampage warrior would own any flavor of necro, be it core or Reaper.

That’s why I think necros are still not that great.

Just wanted to highlight this.

Edit: because its funny.

I suggest you keep your opinions about other classes outside of ranger to yourself because it exposes your lack of knowledge

It shows “pro” level players can simultaneously be noob scrubs. He’s not really that good and hardly ever taken seriously. If only you remember how he got dragged on the ground by a 14 yr old in a 1v1 tourney. Funniest thing ever to happen to someone with an overinflated ego.

Yeah eura is absolutely terrible….. how many WTS’s did you guys play in?

While I don’t agree with everything TyrianYeti says, your bias is clouding your judgement. You consider yourself a necromancer when you aren’t even aware that warriors hard countered them? I don’t get it.

I don’t attach any emotions towards individuals that play this game and always try to be as objective and unbiased as possible.

You obviously aren’t.

What does being in the WTS have anything to do with him being ignorant about warriors countering necros??

Another idiot yes-man to “pro” player scum.

When did I say anything about warrior. But while we are on the subject, warriors do not hard counter necros. L2kite.

I’m not being emotional. I have played with and against Eura. He’s a good player and he’s unbelievable chill and fun guy to be in TS with. I don’t comment on players that I don’t have experience with, I’d suggest you do the same. If you think I’m just a yes man, you don’t know me at all.

The key for me is you only have brief opportunities to burst them down, do your best to count blocks evades and dodges and try your best to burst in between them and not burn huge damage skills when they can evade or block them….

Anyone else like me that really doesn’t care about what division it says there in? Reason I don’t really care is because I’m still get games against the high end teams… this means my MMR is probably decent and I’m satisfied with that. I enjoy playing the high level teams even with a pug group, hell the other day we had a pug that got matched against Team Faded and we were actually doing quite well against then was even ahead of them at one point but they portal lord rushed and we lost, our fault we should have seen it coming.

trytonianYeti.4389:

cakeonroof.7385:

Eurantien.4632:

cakeonroof.7385:

But Their hardest counter is the warrior, and it’s always been the warrior. Warriors lack playtime atm but even the core rampage warrior would own any flavor of necro, be it core or Reaper.

That’s why I think necros are still not that great.

Just wanted to highlight this.

Edit: because its funny.

I suggest you keep your opinions about other classes outside of ranger to yourself because it exposes your lack of knowledge

It shows “pro” level players can simultaneously be noob scrubs. He’s not really that good and hardly ever taken seriously. If only you remember how he got dragged on the ground by a 14 yr old in a 1v1 tourney. Funniest thing ever to happen to someone with an overinflated ego.

Yeah eura is absolutely terrible….. how many WTS’s did you guys play in?

Not to mention the toughness vitality boost and the resistance.

Dainank.1308:

So you don’t need runes on armor, because there are none?

The armor you have on doesn’t mean anything. But there are still runes and sigils in the pvp tab.

Dainank.1308:

I was wondering whether the runes and sigils on armor affect PvP stats during ranked matches, as I know that there are only two set options for weapons which override your standard.

Thank You!

PvP has completely separate runes and sigils

Can’t call people out on forums like that, I had a day or so ago which each team had a group of 3 and each of those groups of 3 were intentionally trying to tank the game.

Bhawb.7408:

Dreaming serpent.5197:

@bhawb, What’s wrong with spectral wall with the spectral traits?

Doesn’t properly increase duration. Every other spectral skill has all its effects increased by 50% (boons on armor/walk, chill duration on grasp), but SWall only has its duration of the wall increased, the protection and fear both stay the same. Of course the skill is generally mediocre, but that fix plus the protection duration refreshing, maybe touching up the fear or wall thickness would make the skill interesting because of the protection synergy with SWall/SA.

There’s a pretty fun combo with locust swarm, drop the spectral wall on top of someone rs 3 rs4, pretty funny when you cause almost every condi at once people panic. The cooldown is way too high though and it’s very hard to get someone with it.

Supreme.3164:

NeXeD.3042:

Firebird.8324:

Condi from Reaper isn’t that bad because reaper has no disengage mechanic, start with zero DS, and don’t have terribly high sustain with crazy nerfed blighter’s boon.

The build that SHOULD get nerfed is the CRAZY condi/high damage/insane sustain shiro/malyx herald rev build, this one http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Herald_-_Condition_Mallyx I mean, it’s just perfect, it has like, everything. Just run 2 of those herald builds and a tempest with a druid watching home and then whatever the kitten u want as a fifth and GG u win.

Plus mallyx revs and tempests beat the kitten out of reapers.

Tempest doesn’t beat any decent reaper at high level , 1vs1 and with the tempest using diamond skin. Assuming the ele using d/f earth then he won’t have the dmg to down the reaper before somebody comes to help the reaper and even in those “rare” occasions that you face full condi team, 1-2 carrion reapers are still able to break through diamond skin so…

your statement that tempest beats reaper only counts in hotjoin (barely) or extremely low level of pvp where nobody rotate

Even against carrion all the tempest has to do is kite when the reaper goes into rs and he can’t do crap to the reaper. I’m dont agree with equally skilled condi reaper beating an equally skilled tempest, and although I wouldn’t call myself a super skilled pvper, I wouldn’t call myself low level either.

Firebird.8324:

Condi from Reaper isn’t that bad because reaper has no disengage mechanic, start with zero DS, and don’t have terribly high sustain with crazy nerfed blighter’s boon.

The build that SHOULD get nerfed is the CRAZY condi/high damage/insane sustain shiro/malyx herald rev build, this one http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Herald_-_Condition_Mallyx I mean, it’s just perfect, it has like, everything. Just run 2 of those herald builds and a tempest with a druid watching home and then whatever the kitten u want as a fifth and GG u win.

Plus mallyx revs and tempests beat the kitten out of reapers.

These perma block mesmers are pretty annoying.

Toughness is a semi counter to power, vitality is a semi counter to condi.

Your tests are so biased its unbelievable.

Azukas.1426:

Crinn.7864:

Azukas.1426:

StAllerdyce.3941:

What is this test trying to prove? That using hybrid stats with a hybrid weapon kills faster than using zerk stats with a hybrid weapon? Seems logical.

I’m sorry but Carrion out performed the power amulet. In fact it performed just as well as zerker until zerker got an extremely good run of crits.

…until it got a good run of crits.

Of course it didn’t, power unlike condi has a RNG chance to perform better, because of this power must therefore be weaker to condi without favorable RNG since otherwise condi would be strictly inferior.

You fail to see that carrion is out performing the power amulets using only bleeds. This is 8-9 stacks of bleeds and only in the viper amulet did we see 12. Guess which had the fastest times?

Now when you look at the OP of this thread it actually supports his statement.

Why don’t you compare a zerk with a GS, against carrion with sword if you really want to do a fair comparison….

nearlight.3064:

I agree with Dirame.

The reapers all bandwagoning signets are doing so because they can’t think for themselves. They just run around like a headless chicken and copy noscoc’s every move because he was the only one that stuck with the class and developed builds and played well in tournaments when it wasn’t strong, thats the ONLY reason why these signet builds are being used. You take that away, and they have nothing.

Lets look at the signets in greater detail:

Plague Signet: Potentially useful on any build because its cooldown is low and any build can gain from having this condi transfer. You don’t need Spite to make it useful.

Signet of the Vampirism: Utter kitten. The only thing keeping this very poor excuse for a heal skill in the meta is the fact that its bugged to work through LoS and evade frames. Without that, its passive heal has zero sustain potential due to its not-per-target ICD, and its active heal value is FAR too low for its cooldown. Any other heal skill provides better healing over time, with traited “You’re Soul as Mine” being the best heal for self-sustain over time, followed by traited Consume Conditions.

Signet of Spite: Its passive effect isn’t very useful, and its cooldown is too high for what it does, and its active effect is decent. I agree that corrupt boon is much better condition pressure, especially when traited to have nearly half the cooldown of traited spite signet.

Signet of the Locust: Its passive effect is nice for the movement speed as QoL, but its scaling heal effect is too weak in 1v1s, though good in teamfights. Still, something like well of corruption will give you a more relaible chance of corrupting stability from someone thats stomping or rezzing. Overall though I’d place it as the 2nd best signet (behind plague). Potentially useful if not traited, but at that point shouts would probably be more useful for a defensive build that wouldn’t go into spite.

Signet of Undeath: Okayish passive, active effect kitten by cast time and inability to rez beneath 25% health due to 3+ year old bug and limited by poison on downed body. Lackluster.

Signets of Suffering: Solid trait, if you want to use signets, this is what enables it to work.

Still, just to say so, I play condi builds with corruptions and shouts that have better sustain (due to better heal skills) and pressure than a similar signet build.

So Morwath, while I respect you for organizing all the information about the competitive scene, as thats a huge undertaking, I compel you to not let that accomplishment go to your head in the form of meta-snobbery. Just because people are using it, doesn’t mean its the only, or even best way to play. And your statement about it being fact instead of opinion is so snobbish and oppressive that I feel the need to put you in your place.

For example: Nos played his “secret” condi build (that doesn’t use a single signet) on his stream yesterday that he didn’t want to talk about. But I know what build that is because one of my personal condi builds is almost the same, even down to the very rune he used of all things. But no one will play it until Nos kitten s everyone in a major tournament with it, because the other bandwagon necros will only copy him. They don’t try out things on their own with very rare exceptions.

But I guess because none of the amazing pro-league bandwagon reapers like Oeggz, use it, by the laws of statistics, and casual inference, it must be bad. Hmmph.

And thats just for offensive condition builds. Theres a whole world of power builds that will probably be used if AoE cleanse/shout spam becomes meta again that none of them have been exploring.

For a condi necro and even for some power builds signets are too good not to use. If anyone wants to use corruptions over signets that’s fine but then that means your probably taking curses (I do anyway on my condi necro, I’m not one of those that plays the meta build no matter what but it’s usually pretty close) so your either not taking soul reaping or not taking spite. If you take soul reaping your losing out on a ton of vuln and a ton of might, if you take spite you lose out on dhuumfire VP and unblockable marks and if you are already taking spite you should probably use signets as your GM trait. Now you can either play corruption/signet build or you can swap out the corruptions and take terror or poc and have your skill bar with sov sol ps wurm. (This is all assuming the build is using curses)

Really what I’m saying is corruptions aren’t even the best utils for a condi necro taking curses and the meta build which plenty of people agree is effective doesn’t even take curses….

The only skill that would ever make me take corruptions is CC, but with signets and transfers I really don’t seem to struggle with getting rid of condis, if I die it’s usually to an insta gib or I’m getting chain CCed and I’ve already burned my wurm.

There is however a power build I’ve been toying around with using shouts… that I think might become a thing soon but I haven’t played it in enough queues yet.

Also I think you may be underestimating the amount of testing and time these players take to figure out what builds work the best in the MOST situations and don’t forget what we may find effective at our level they may have tried at their level and found it lacking.

Serious Thought.5394:

Would you be in favor of trading them for something more or less valuable? For instance Revenant’s 3 second taunt on stun (good god, put it to 1. thats so BROKEN, I use it to kill people through fancy auto only play) being swapped for like 2 seconds of Infuse Light (the glint heal)? I could do more, but… things like that. Where you could have instant cast stuns reward the stunee MORE than just flat out shutting down the stunner.

So you trade a passive cc skill for a passive amazingly strong heal skill?

Morwath.9817:

NeXeD.3042:

Morwath.9817:

@Saiyan.1704
I haven’t said Anet has to follow cries, but rather if something is “too good” (read: has higher potential and significant better winrate due to that than other stuff, doesn’t have to be OP) then it requires rebalancing. Simple as that.

Also… you’re pretty hypocrite, seriously. You’re saying they can’t catter to “majority”, because they won’t be e-sports, but when I give you example of e-sports game which went balancing around majority path, then you’re telling me GW2 should be compared to it’s own genre (hint: no other MMO is aiming at e-sports).

Next thing, I’ve used “crowds” as refference to majority of playerbase, not spectators.

Take dh as an example the majority of players are crying about them. But the high end players don’t sweat em. Should they be nerfed.

Now Shiro mallyx viper rev, the majority of people probably don’t have a problem with them because the majority of players can’t play them to their full potential so the ones you see other than the high end players suck pretty bad… yet in high end play it’s a thing of kittening beauty.

Have you even read post you’ve quoted?
If so, then if DH got 10% higher win rate than other professions, then yes, their most popular build should be re-balanced (read: nerfed) and Guardians should be buffed somewhere else to fix that extra win rate.

Ok but what about the rev, I bet that build doesn’t have a really high winrate but it’s amazing in high end play…. so they buff that? Yeah that won’t completely break how high end pvp is… it will also just essentially cement what classes you will see in every tourney with very little change, or we would just see people plaYing FoTM builds even more.

There are a few kind of people, one who gets angry and comes to “voice”(lol) their opinions negatively on the forums, one who gets angry and quits, and one who gets angry and is determined to improve himself in order to ensure it doesn’t happen again.

Morwath.9817:

@Saiyan.1704
I haven’t said Anet has to follow cries, but rather if something is “too good” (read: has higher potential and significant better winrate due to that than other stuff, doesn’t have to be OP) then it requires rebalancing. Simple as that.

Also… you’re pretty hypocrite, seriously. You’re saying they can’t catter to “majority”, because they won’t be e-sports, but when I give you example of e-sports game which went balancing around majority path, then you’re telling me GW2 should be compared to it’s own genre (hint: no other MMO is aiming at e-sports).

Next thing, I’ve used “crowds” as refference to majority of playerbase, not spectators.

Take dh as an example the majority of players are crying about them. But the high end players don’t sweat em. Should they be nerfed?

Now Shiro mallyx viper rev, the majority of people probably don’t have a problem with them because the majority of players can’t play them to their full potential so the ones you see other than the high end players suck pretty bad… yet in high end play it’s a thing of kittening beauty. Should they be buffed?

If you want to add in something like stuns, dazes and other hard CC effects can no longer be used in stealth I’d b willing literally delete those traits.

If your stun happens to have no counter other than blind luck I see no reason why a trait with the same premise to protect some classes. Here’s an idea after you proc the trait back off for a second go back into stealth regen and do it again because your cooldowns are shorter and you have the ability to disengage from almost any fight with some skillfully play.

All it really does is delay the fight. Unless of course you just run in guns blazing after proccing whatever trait.

Needs to be some counter to the immediate invisible stun other than having to immediately burn a stunbreak at the onset of every fight with a theif, mesmer, engi hell even DH can do it now.

I agree let’s make everyone invincible toughness tanks that apparently no longer need vitality to counter condi. Or condi clears.

It’s not a weird question. If anet balances for the soloq population the high end pvp will suffer and anets esports goal would be impossible.

choovanski.5462:

all you salty soloqueuers should form a salty solo queue premade. there are absolutely enough of you to do so.

I tried and suggested this last year, people couldn’t be bothered to log into TS, or vent or mumble or skype, or basically put any effort into it. If someone else wants to try again I will help any way I can.

I’d rather lose horribly to a premade and only wait 3-5 minutes in queue than go back to waiting 10-15 minutes again. I find that if a team is beating the living crap out of us it’s a good learning experience for me, oh and I don’t have rage issues when I get outplayed or countered. If it bothers people so much to lose I suggest PVE.

Morwath.9817:

Saiyan.1704:

Burtnik.5218:

Just my bias response…
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Your bias response forgot a few things… Condi needs a bit more items to be effective.

• Condi duration
• Condi application
• Condi damage
  There’s a give and take for going condi. Most condi builds lack CC and/or sustains because.. well, they’re condi.

Signet Necros
DS Eles
Absolute Resolution Power Guards
Shout War
Shout Bunker Guards…
Stack any of these classes as you see fit.

There are 3x more team comps that hard counter condi than power. Yet you want more Protection for your power build…

If you can’t handle randomized soloQ where your unsyncronized team can’t beat that 1 or 2 random condi player scrub… make a team who can.

Your recipe to “balance issues” is hillarious…
There is something a bit unbalanced? No problem! Form premade and PuG stomp!

…. all I see him doing is giving a reasonable solution to the problems soloq players have with condi.

Condi is much deadlier while pugging, but in tourneys the condi classes you see aren’t usually pure condi and they are usually there to counter other condi players (mallyx rev, signet necro) and then there ds auramancers farting out condi clear heals and group support while never getting below 90% unless focus 1v3 and even then they might survive long enough for help if they are good.

I main a reaper, and I have been playing condi lately but not the meta carrion frostfire build, I opted for wanderers or vipers depending on if I see an ele on the other team.

I get that people are having a problem with chill because the feel helpless when they are out of condi clears chill can be an extremely frustrating way to die as you see the reaper running away from you while you frantically try to hit them. But is it any more frustrating than getting perma stunned by a mesmer, or essentially one shot by a dh? Everyone was trying to counter all the direCT damage so we eased up on the condI clears and some people noticed this and adapted. Some didnt.

flow.6043:

Acotje.5689:

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messiah.1908:

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Like I said, I haven’t seen a signet necro in ages, and I regularly play both PvP and WvW.

meow one twenty.4376:

Look at dat team healing…

Healing to Allies includes rezzing, ~500k is still impressive though.

I’m more impressed how he was able to do 500k damage with a settlers amulet.

Harvey.7820:

NeXeD.3042:

I’ve been playing pvp mmos since 1998. GW2 pvp is one of the best pvp experiences I’ve ever had. The others are Ultima Online, DAoC, and Darkfall. GW2 is the only game I’ve played that comes close.

It seems to me most people who think this is a failing esport are the ones who just couldn’t cut it, and they attempt to spread this Esports is a failure idea. They complain about OmG why would they spend 400k on a pvp competition when “I” think they should spend it on balance because the game is clearly imbalanced because I didn’t make it to pro leagues! Dunning kreuger.

You must be an EXTREMELY slow learner if you’ve PvPed from 1998 and still cant recognize class imbalance. Maybe you’re one of those players that plays FoTM classes on every patch release.

No it means I’m an extremely good judge of balance. You probably play a warrior or theif so I do feel bad, but you are now what rangers and necros used to be.

I’ve mained a necro for like 3 years during the good and bad and I don’t always play a meta build yet I’ve maintained a 58% winrate in ranked/unranked.

The strength sigil and all the crit chance are what give him some sustain in shroud and extra lifeforce out of it. More might is never bad =)

Is it only the copy that goes through evades?

Locuz.2651:

He was pushing boss early on foefire…… -_- He basicly made it a 4v5 for the first 2 mins of the game. And he didnt kill it since they had more than enough time to run back and take him out.

NeXeD.3042:

If your going to push boss at beginning you need to do a fee things, you need to make sure the other team doesn’t have a theif that could potentially steal, you need to make sure you can kill the thing quickly .

Wow u can steal a kill on your own boss on foefire now? Thats amazing dude…please tell me more.

What…. I was completely agreeing with you.

Supreme.3164:

NeXeD.3042:

I’ve been playing pvp mmos since 1998. GW2 pvp is one of the best pvp experiences I’ve ever had. The others are Ultima Online, DAoC, and Darkfall. GW2 is the only game I’ve played that comes close.

It seems to me most people who think this is a failing esport are the ones who just couldn’t cut it, and they attempt to spread this Esports is a failure idea. They complain about OmG why would they spend 400k on a pvp competition when “I” think they should spend it on balance because the game is clearly imbalanced because I didn’t make it to pro leagues! Dunning kreuger.

I think you’re the one in denial the picture below is common scene in GW2 for many, the “e-sport” you’re ranting about exist only in your fantasies
http://imgur.com/Da5ojvI

So because the EU necro hero’s team got their kitten handed to them it’s an esports failure? Or is it a failure because it’s possible for good teams to get beat so badly?

At least I’m not one of the people in denial about their own skill, I know what I won’t make pro leagues, while I think lots of other entitled players think they are much better than they are so they call it a failure.

No Pulse.2967:

Locuz.2651:

No Pulse.2967:

Dunno dude, but when I see that stuff happening, I just disengage and follow wherever they rotate from mid. I mean, he was rude and an kitten, but essentially not wrong.

He was pushing boss early on foefire…… -_- He basicly made it a 4v5 for the first 2 mins of the game. And he didnt kill it since they had more than enough time to run back and take him out.

As a good player, you adapt to that. If people keep running far, you follow them and help defending. If they go beast, you play defensively. Meta strats or not, you won’t be able to influence your teammates play most of the time when pugging.

If your going to push boss at beginning you need to do a fee things, you need to make sure the other team doesn’t have a theif that could potentially steal, you need to make sure you can kill the thing quickly and you need a bunk that can keep mid contested while the boss is killed. If you can’t do any of these things you shouldn’t go for boss at beginning. By rushing boss without doing these things first and without talking about it with your team you have just put your team in a horrible disadvantage at the beginning of the match allowing the other team to snowball and now they can pretty much hold you in one corner of the map.

I’ve been playing pvp mmos since 1998. GW2 pvp is one of the best pvp experiences I’ve ever had. The others are Ultima Online, DAoC, and Darkfall. GW2 is the only game I’ve played that comes close.

It seems to me most people who think this is a failing esport are the ones who just couldn’t cut it, and they attempt to spread this Esports is a failure idea. They complain about OmG why would they spend 400k on a pvp competition when “I” think they should spend it on balance because the game is clearly imbalanced because I didn’t make it to pro leagues! Dunning kreuger.

The double diamond skin auramancers is a thing even in conquest and it’s annoying as hell.

Hakata.6742:

atreyu.9624:

Hakata.6742:

I don’t intend to re-roll another class just for sPvP.

You know every toon is boosted to 80 with every skills unlocked in spvp right?

Yup, but I’m just too unfamiliar with the skills of other classes at this point and I do want to play PvE on those characters as well. I’ll give them a shot eventually, there’s no rush for it.

You need to play the other classes in order to understand how to counter then and just so you know what kind of build on what class you are fighting.

Forsaker.9213:

well i fine with some builds that can counter other builds but diamond skill its just hard counter to condi necros , someone had to be on quite big high making this trait

Agreed, I hadn’t realize how absolutely ridiculous a tempest running diamond skin was until last AG, team we were playing 1st rd kept switching chars and changing builds and counter comping us, used two kittening diamond skin tempests. 1st time I’ve lost first round.

kdaddy.5431:

Also ive never found this skill to be OP since i run MM necro and a clone stacking passive mesmer. Alot of the builds i run dont struggle against revanent. Also in team fights its running threw 3 people so your only receiving 1-2k dmg.

I find DH/scrappers/reapers sustain and dmg output to be a much bigger issue then glass cannons with 1 big skill attack.

Wouldn’t mm and the clones heald the crap out of the rev?

I did it too, I was on my necro, I wonder if reaper/avatar forms have anything to do with it.

StickerHappy.8052:

NeXeD.3042:

Queue go smoke a cig, come back dishonored no beuno.

Smoke before queing? man… too much excuses in life. you are making it hard for yourself. seriously.

Well I didn’t do it. Just coming up with a situation to show I understand. I don’t have to make it hard for myself =)

Blaine Tog.8304:

Bhawb.7408:

I’m not suggesting we do. But just adding a huge amount of HP (we’re talking even glass Necro builds starting the game with essentially 30k+ HP, a Soldier build would have closer to 45-50k HP) isn’t going to lead to fun or skillful defense, all it does is create the same stat check as now, but delayed: do you have enough burst to burst the Necro? If yes do it. That’s exactly where we are at now, except you’ve just made it a higher number. There is nothing more skillful on the Necros part, they just have a ton more passive defense.

Perhaps I’ve misunderstood the issue, then. Are Necros perpetually focused in sPvP matches, or is the hyperfocus limited to first fights, after which they tend to tank a more nornalized amount of enemy player aggro?

Perpetually.

Queue go smoke a cig, come back dishonored no beuno.

Oh give it a kittening break with this EU is so much better than NA bullkitten seriously OmG you didn’t make it to the pro league well its clearly due to how amazing all the eu players are compared to the na, clearly.

Dristig.9678:

posthumecaver.6473:

Run with Cavalier armor and SR/Blood Magic/Death Magic, 2 wells and take one for the team.

In all the matches I am top damage received but it took the enemy team so much time to kill me because that armor and constant protection, my team decimates the other team.

And when I drop my 2 wells, quickness and %70 crit chance in DS, actually you don’t want to be on me but hey, Necro is an easy kill isn’t? Reverse psychology

How are you getting quickness?

Either sigil of rage sigil of speed or he is using chrono runes.

Blaine Tog.8304:

Easy fix: give us 50% Life Force to start. As I understand it, sPvP teams like to focus the Necro not so much because we’re so important to take out or even so easy to kill, but because we’re easiest to kill before we’ve had a chance to build up our primary defense.

I dunno if that would be enough or too much, but it’d be a start.

Thank youuuu. Finally someone else understands it’s not because we are more or less dangerous than other classes. It’s strictly because our survivability is completely tied to our lf. If you focus the necro he can’t build lf. Give necro something like glints heal

lighter.2708:

I would love to see OP release a solution for that,
i’ve never see any public server in any games that can keep a constant even number of the same people..

Agreed, I remember old CS lobbies would just be people attempting to follow one player from team to team because he was killing everyone. Hotjoins same crap happens.

Also what the kitten is up with this whole thing where people constantly pulling the “WTF Did You even read my post bro” everytime someone disagrees…. it’s ridiculous.

He said guild, but anyways I can help you I think. Add me in game.

No because I get accused of being a premade all the time when I’m solo qing.

OmG they are beating us they must be a premade because there is no chance I could ever lose to a team of pugs.