Guild Wars 2

@BLNT thief – hope you keep alt-f4ing after the patch, keeps saving me the effort of having to stomp. Thanks, btw.

@PINK mesmer in EB BL, nice fight. I wanted to beat you again, but had to go, hopefully another time. I am not sure those CD [ROFL] guys could have 3v1’d either of us, pretty bad.

Cosine.1786:

Niim.9260:

Macallan.9270:

Aytrix.4059:

For a tier 3 server, TC has way more than enough people in WvW. As it stands now, you guys win on sheer numbers alone.

TC has many hours where we will have at most 10 players on a map. While I understand this to be a convenient reason for the scores to end the way they do, I’m disappointed that you discredit our players abilities and strategies.

I am disappointed that you keep posting this kitten in a recruitment thread.

match thread -> that way

If you defame them, they will come.

Might want to look at what the person was replying too and where it started.

Macallan.9270:

Aytrix.4059:

For a tier 3 server, TC has way more than enough people in WvW. As it stands now, you guys win on sheer numbers alone.

TC has many hours where we will have at most 10 players on a map. While I understand this to be a convenient reason for the scores to end the way they do, I’m disappointed that you discredit our players abilities and strategies.

I am disappointed that you keep posting this kitten in a recruitment thread.

match thread → that way

Four+ pages of nonsense. I am generally of the opinion that everyone should be able to play how they want to play, which to me means that if a bunch of people want to have an event, then I will let them have the event. I was in the area, I watched it start, and then I went off to do something else, leaving the event alone.

I found the last 3-4 pages disgusting. TC you are acting like bullies. You tout it as divine retribution, but it is an excuse. Earlier in the week it was ‘omg alliance’ and now ‘omg event’ and soon it will be ‘omg something else’. Whatever excuse you can to toss around a huge numbers advantage like it somehow means something, then gloating about it.

You just ran around the maps PvEing everything down punishing who? No one cares about points, the people that disrupted your event have long since gone to bed, so you basically just stomped on the play time of a bunch of people that logged on and likely have no idea what is going on, and to some extent cheapened the second place victory for CD, who deserved it because they fought hard and well.

You really showed the folks that disrupted your event, by tossing yourself into the mud pit with them. Grats.

Sam.3645:

Hey FAs, we did it.

What did you do? What does the score board show?

I think we should have a multi-server, anti-dolyak walk event. We will all meet at the vista north of Champion’s and portal bomb the yak as it moves below.

(PS I am kidding)

Cogbyrn.7283:

However, if you have a better system to determine where servers should be in WvWvW and how match-ups should be handled that doesn’t devolve into a mass population exodus because a large majority of the matches are wildly unbalanced, I’d be happy to hear it.

My only real objection to the system is that it does not account for rapid change in servers, such as with HoD and ET. Granted this is a transfer created issue, something that might not have ever come up without free transfers.

The system forced both servers to slowly decline through the ranks, effectively hindering any chance those servers had to recover from the exit of the large alliances. It also destroyed how many weeks of matches whenever one of the two servers, even worse both, ended up in the same tier.

Not saying the system should have changed to accommodate, but I think they could have manually forced them to drop ranks faster then they did.

Saintly.8062:

I like the idea of letting commanders remove siege, gives a bit more value to that title.

Maybe your server has never had the commander hissy fits I have seen in /team chat, but this kind of thing would be abused in a commander war, imo.

I agree with Plok, though not necessarily for the same reasons. Duels in my opinion are cheesy, to many ‘rules’ and often too easy to plan around depending on class.

I like the aspect of WvW that you have to play a rounded build to handle a wide assortment of people/builds/situations. Duel’s are just too static, for me personally, and what makes a great duel build may have no utility in the rest of the game.

That said, I fully support everyone’s right to have duels and I hope they enjoy themselves and are uninterrupted. If I come across folks dueling I will typically hang out and watch the fights, eat some popcorn, etc.

I think they should stop implementing mage style classes as well. Every MMO that has ever implemented mage classes has found these classes to become over powered…. yet more MMO companies ended up using the same mechanic over and over again, I don’t understand the logic.

If you are a future game designer please never implement such a poor mechanic into any game where you want serious pvp.

Raincrow.1840:

Thinking like this is just going to make it worse. I hate the laugh emotes, but it really just makes the person doing it, and the server look bad.

If somone laughs at you, just move on, don’t start laughing at other people. That leads to a whole bunch of people doing childish emotes to spite each other, when it’s really uncalled for.

Sometimes it is called for though, that is why we have them available. Here is a very common example. I am running past an enemy tower, minding my own business on my way to wherever. Down jumps someone from the wall and they start attacking me. I stop, come back and fight for 10 seconds and then they run back into the tower.

Personally I think that is laugh worthy.

naphack.9346:

Want Siege Towers and ladders!

Same, ladders would be awesome.

So we are just going to walk behind a cow from a camp to a tower/keep? That’s the vent you are organizing? Is there more to it then that?

crewthief.8649:

Mesmers have been ‘adjusted’, and so will Thieves, no two ways about it. Please, Thief players, stop being so obtuse and own up to some of this.

The problem is that these posts are not engaging and honest discussions of the class. They are generally uninformed drivel with little basis on reality, filled with suggestions that have no interest in a playable class as the outcome. You expect an honest discussion while throwing a mountain of trash on the forums to talk around. Surprise, you get trash posts in response.

I see little value in posting intelligent, well thought out views on what should be fixed with the thief class, both good and bad, when it is generally just a witch hunt.

Badges seem to be dropping fine to me.

@CD guild [THE] sorry I had to lead you around for awhile before I killed your merry trio, was on the phone and then my headphones broke. Glad you found me after I had them fixed though. /salute

Hekatombaion.4320:

It’s presumed that as a corpse you are spying for a larger group. It’s dirty to not release, you have only sinister reasons to not release.

Is it just me, or does anyone else always find these good times to go afk, get a drink, use the bathroom, talk with the wife, etc, etc. I love coming back to people still standing around my corpse while I was eating my supper and watching TV.

cannedflame.3597:

Quite the opposite of crying over 2v1, we had a blast. Nothing makes the boredom of the BL disappear like watching all of it flip. It really stoked a fire under us, as you saw today by our heavy retribution.

I think the forums play a different tune, seems like a lot of unhappy posters and accusations on the topic.

One thing is for certain, playing for second place is playing to lose.

/salute to the [DSCS] necro (think I got the guild right) for the fight earlier. I returned for the tie beaker, but couldn’t find you. Thanks for ushering your server mate along to let us finish the fight.

At any rate great fight, see you out there.

Faylinn.3280:

This has been a great match so far! Although I still have an issue with alt f4 people as well as people who laugh at you when you get killed. Both are inappropriate in my opinion, but the match is fun regardless!

I will be honest, I laugh at people all the time, though generally not without reason, some of them are:

1) they deserve it for some slight, real or imagined. Part of what makes WvW fun is the ability to create your own personal crusades. I targeted and killed a guild the other night after they zerged me down and danced on me. I think I killed and laughed at 23 of them before I got bored and moved on to the next shiny.

2) Bad play. Some people should be laughed at in my opinion. For example any thief that opens up with dagger storm in a 1v1. It is just so bad, it deserves a laugh. Lots of examples of this.

3) Bad form. I laugh at people that have bad form, as per my personal view of such things. People that rush out to attack you and immediately run back to guards when you do not die in three hits, they fall in this category as an example.

I do not think it is wise to take laughing or any of that stuff seriously, as there is a good chance whatever reason they have, would puzzle you.

Chewie.1249:

I must say, us in [TG] have had a complete blast, it is very nice to have coordination and communication throughout chat, rallying on people has never been, dear I say it….. easy? Appreciate all the good fights TC and FA.

I think exSFers should be respectful of one another and thus I request you stop poaching my supply camps. Takes a bit of effort to solo them, only to have a TG group roll in as the last guard dies to cap it! Not even a friendly wave of thanks.

This has happened three times, I am starting to take it personal

Are you not still limited by the range of the arrow cart?

Vagrant.1094:

Instead, ‘talk’ to the BLNT folks in game, in whispers, politely.
…
Tigger, and the rest of the BLNT folks (I only named you, Tigger, because yours is the only name I remember offhand) – you’re welcome to chat with me any time in game in so far as improving your strategies in EB.

Always good to fallow your own advice I find.

They just need to fix it so once you drop down, there is no invulnerability areas.

I was watching an elementalist fight by one the other day, every time he went down he would insta mist and go to the invul spot, so he could revive and then come back out to fight. Pretty cheesy if you ask me.

I fight a lot of thieves in WvW, there is one thing that makes me more embarrassed to play a thief then anything else, the amount of elite spamming that goes on. Elite abilities are really not that great if you do not use them appropriately, spamming them as an opener or as soon as they come back up, just makes you look like a noob.

Perhaps this kind of play style works against the countless number of bads that exist out there, no idea, but every single time I watch someone open with dagger storm I cry a little bit inside. Dagger storm in a 1v1 is basically useless as an offensive tool against a half decent player. If you wish to use it for evasion so you can wait on initiative or cool-downs, maybe even to close a gap, but randomly opening with it… oi. Same goes for thieves guild. Why would you randomly use this ability when you fight a cloak and dagger thief? Its like giving them free stealth whenever they want it.

Think about it.

sceptus.9415:

Its always from the same server. You would think after a few weeks of competition a little respect could be earned.

The funny thing about respect, it does need to be earned.

I would say things ‘seem’ worse then before, perhaps the size of forces is just larger this match? Overall it certainly has not improved anything.

They have it, it’s commonly called the zerg.

DKz Lux.4125:

I might u might need to retake English 101.

I am speechless. How can I even add to that?

How do I get a ticket responded to? In the Account issues forum there is a thread that you can post if your ticket has gone unanswered for three days, why is there no thread here for that? My ticket, created by emailing forums@arena.net has gone unanswered for 10 days. Why is there no process here for tickets left to sit excessively long without a response?

I would like to kindly make a suggestion. Stop over moderating your forums, giving pointless and silly infractions that diminish the importance and respect for infractions in general. Infractions have become a joke, we all kid about who has gotten the stupidest infraction. Is that how you want infractions to be viewed?

If you stop over moderating you will 1) get less emails to the account asking what the kitten you were thinking and 2) you can divert some of that extra modding effort to answering support tickets in a timely fashion.

Win-win imo.

Gaile Gray.6028:

I have read what you wrote, and I do understand that you have a ticket in the system. But this is the Account Issues forum, and you’re not writing about an issue with an account. This thread is designed solely for following up on account issues. Please continue your discussion in your support tickets.

There is no discussion in my support ticket, they are not responding, which is why I posted here in the first place. While you may not be able to solve my problem, do you think you could take a second and find out who can?

KensaiZen.3740:

I used to work in the Games industry so let me translate this for you

“We are planning major improvements to WvW with a lot of new additions. However, we are not yet certain if all the new additions will be ready to be released on time in february so we will not anounce anything yet until we have something more solid from the programmers of what features will be ready to launch in february.”

Things don’t usually go as planned when you propose something too far ahead so its best to be tight lipped until you have something solid to give to the community. If they anounce something and only for it not to be ready on time, there would be a massive cry for developer blood 100%

Just picture how many whiney little kitten there are already. Now imagine if they were told they will get a new toy then they didn’t get it, how they will react to it.

Minimising the damage by not giving away too much. Unfortunately it is the best thing to do in such iorcircumstances.

Just be patient. I am sure they will anounce it in January. The programmers should have something more solid by then.

I think you missed the point of people’s disappointment. By all means they shouldn’t talk before they are ready and things are solidified enough that they can.

The concern is why the kitten are they not already far enough along to do that now?

Just a /wave to the CD <TG> guild, good to see them again, though this time I get to kill you! I waved a lot last night, but no one waved back

DKz Lux.4125:

We had a couple of guilds transfer in the last two months and they can’t field more than 10 players each.

DKz Lux.4125:

I think we had like 5 maybe 6 players transfer to borlis in the last year. What are you talking about?

Your math issues are showing again, you should at least keep your story straight.

saiyr.3071:

Niim.9260:

February!!! I am not sure what I expected, I guess december is a right off for the holidays, but February before they even have a message ready to start talking…. let alone actually getting it into the game… way, way to far away, imo.

Not what he meant.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/No-WvW-love-till-February

Maybe I missed it, but I see nothing from Anet in that thread.

phaneo.4597:

Except that YB actually brought tough fights with limited numbers, and defended their stuff, unlike some other certain server that just zergs around when there are bigger guilds, but then just moves on to the next capture point and never bother about defending, instead comes to forums and thumps chests or whines.

Not really nice to talk about your own server that way, no one will group with you.

February!!! I am not sure what I expected, I guess december is a right off for the holidays, but February before they even have a message ready to start talking…. let alone actually getting it into the game… way, way to far away, imo.

I guess I just do not see the spy angle. When we could see the players name and send them tell’s, was spying any more common then it is now? The only important spying is planned spying, and that will be done via voice, not in game chat. How would it be any different then coming to the forums, seeing an enemy players name and whispering them using that information?

We have been putting up with the whole spying issue for ears in any faction based game, this game is no different and if people want to spy they will. Random people telling strats to an unknown enemy, how really impacting is that?

If spying was truly a concern you should have no communication at all between the servers, but that is not the case, so in my opinion cannot be used as a reason to not have this feature.

Drago.1634:

I believe we have a way to talk to our “Enemies” and that way is… wait for it……..
Forums. If we are open to talking to enemies in W3, You will have a lot of Nonsense in chat. You would have chat spam. And believe it or not, you will have people shouting out positions/strategies/Insults/and maybe random “GG’s” or “Nice fight” Imo it is fine the way it it. Id rather see the random /bow /wave even /laugh.

Again, in order to help change the idea to fit everyone’s needs we really need specifics as to why it would impact you negatively. What you describe is a great reason for you to leave the flag on, but not why you would be against your fellow players from having the choice.

On my server we had a commander that just got the title so he could run around farming karma and experience while he and his guild leveled up. He never commanded anything, avoided fighting. By your system he would have a lot of stars and not be worth following at the same time.

I think we are over thinking the issue, imo. In past games you followed who was worth following based on how they performed in the game. The blue icon does not mean you have to follow them, and in all honesty I have a couple commanders on block.

What we should do is separate out the ability to form squads to either a guild rank or just allow anyone to create a squad. I never understood why this game had a limitation like that other then maybe as a gold sink? This way the icon is just that, folks can choose to follow or not based on that person’s reputation in game just like we always have.

styx.7294:

Nothing to evade since I’m not arguing one side or the other. I’m just giving additional information.

Can you give additional information as to why folks would be opposed to this, how it would impact them negatively? I am not asking this to mock, I am asking so that the ‘idea’ can evolve to deal with those concerns so that everyone is happy.

Let’s outline how it would work, at least in my opinion:

- in your settings you have an option, that by default is on just like the language filter
- option says something like, block contact from enemy players
- when a person right click’s on the enemies portrait if both sides have turned off the flag, you will have the option to whisper player. If the flag is on for either, that option is just not there.

Obviously this cannot block whispers directly, since there are many PvE reasons for whispering and talking to people on another server that may be your enemy. But the only way to get the person’s name to send them a whisper in an enemy context would be if the flag has been turned off. Any person leaving the flag on, will have the same level of protection as we have now, as far as I can tell?

Shardain.6947:

Cogbyrn.7283:

Stonesolid.2706:

Jaldy.6285:

We could totally let YB have TC’s battleground, their own battleground, and take over FA’s battleground! Yeah!

I propose a TC FA alliance. The purpose of our pact will be to not attack Yaks Bend for at least the duration of the next match.

I propose a 3-way Alliance. At the beginning of our next match, no one attacks anyone, no one claims SMC, and everyone has the exact same points for the entirety of the match. If we do this enough, I think we should be able to guarantee that we always fight each other.

Thoughts? Concerns?

A 3-way alliance vs the grub would be even better.

It is to bad there is not an invading horde of zombies we could fight, that would be fun.

DKz Lux.4125:

SF has been a lame opponent this week. Stop QQing on the forums about random kitten that doesn’t even make sense. This just pisses me off to no end.

Given your propensity for exaggeration and making claims just to fit your argument, I would disagree with this statement without even bothering to check the pages to see if it is true or not. I am sure you didn’t.

I do thank you though, QQing about QQing always makes me laugh, which I always enjoy, seriously who doesn’t enjoy a laugh? You should try it instead of getting pissed off, you will live longer I promise. Not in game of course.

As for the point of discussion, I do not think someone from BP transferred to our server to waste supply, what would be the point? My guess is that someone is either bored and working on achievement, or messing with with our own server.

I am not sure why people would be opposed to this, it meets the needs of both sides of the discussion, same idea as the language filter. If you are not interested in tells from the enemy you leave the ‘no messages from enemy server’ on. If you want messages from enemy server then you turn it ‘off’, basically you need to opt in to get them.

You could even do this without providing names if you like, folks can right click the portrait and an option will be added below report for ‘whisper’ so those that are not opted in can stay anonymous as well.

Some times when an idea you do not like doesn’t impact or hurt you in any way, you can support it because people of your gaming community would like it.

phaneo.4597:

lol, not even 24hrs left for the reset, and we’re still at chest-thumping for some badge-farming contest. Even SoR didn’t thump so many chests after the level of badge farming they did while camping right outside the 3 doors of our citadel. Only difference is, they actually won the match. Congratulations, now go buy the Invader’s armor, maybe!?

So what you are saying is that you were farmed for badges in all your last matches starting with SoR?

Gaile Gray.6028:

121130-000171 Again, this is a FORUM question, not an account issue. Write forums@arena.net.

Please reading what I am typing to you. I emailed forums@arena.net, they are the ones that pushed it to the support system, not me.

I repeat I did not open a ticket, they did after I emailed them. Please advise who I should be contacting as contacting forums@arena.net got me where I am now.

Same. I rebooted and now cannot get back in

Thundar.3910:

I keep seeing the argument that a portal bomb take some kind of mastermind to pull off, “Stack here we’re going to portal bomb” that’s it, that’s the massive “coordination” needed to pull off a portal bomb. You do not have to have a PHD to utilize a portal bomb, its as simple as using /s.

The next argument is that it’ll nerf mesmers, only the real fools are saying to delete the ability from WvW. Nerfing the skill to allow a maximum of 10 uses per portal, in no way limits the mesmer itself. If then your argument is that people will just bring more mesmers, then it gives creedance to the overuse of the ability.

Portaling as an idea is good, it adds a layer of tactics to WvW, portaling in its current state devalues the game far more than it should. Currently good on paper, poor in practice.

I thought this was a pretty good post. I am not really strong on either side of the fence on portal bombing, but this makes a lot of sense to me. Having to use multiple mesmers to port, by limiting each portal to say 10 people, add’s the organization and complexity requirement without making it useless.

Sir William PD.9615:

So my post calling it a lame tactic was removed for being an infraction…double you tea eff.

In all my years of gaming, I have NEVER seen a more moderated forum. It’s worse than IGN back in the late 90’s.

I’ll patiently await my infraction notice.

I posted on the suggestion forums changes I would like to see with the moderation system. I was very polite, didn’t point out any specific case, just detailed suggestions on why things are not working out for us, the community, and how it could be improved. It was deleted.