Spvp means nothing. Everything is relatively balanced there. This proves nothing. It doesn’t change the fact that eles are weak in all other areas of the game. When eles become the most wanted party members in a dungeon, then we’ll be ok. But that position belongs to warriors and guardians now. It’s all well and good for the small % of people who play spvp, but all the complaints of ele’s weakness come from a PvE/WvW perspectinve. The fact of the matter is, the majority of ele players are not happy with where the class is right now.
I want a gunblade. Because…..reasons. I have my reasons.
^I don’t particularly care whether you believe me or not. My shouts do in fact heal over 3k, so something about your math is wrong.
Well found out what that instakill cheat is. Its something called midnight. Don’t know exactly how it works, but yeah. wont show up in the combat log. you just take a minor hit and go “wtf killed me?” wondering why you died when the minimal damage they do clearly didn’t take away all your hp. You can instakill people and a lot of people seem to be using it now. Really pathetic that they suck so bad at the game they need to resort to cheats like that to actually get a kill off of someone.
^pain inverter. That could also be a culprit if they aren’t using those runes. That ability is awesome.
yeah the warrior’s abilities are way better than any racials. I do occasionally use Hounds of Balthazar, but that’s about it. The regular skills trump any racials. So just pick whatever race you want and you’ll do fine.
They just need to reverse all the changes they made since beta and we’d be fine. But I don’t think they have the balls to admit that they made a mistake and own up to it, so we’re just going to keep getting worse and worse when they could just easily fix all the problems with the class easily.
^they should make it so that if any condition you apply to an opponent is still damaging them, you stay in combat as well. It is pretty underhanded to run away, heal up while your conditions do the work for you, then come back and finish them off while they’re at a disadvantage and you’re essentially fresh and ready to start over from scratch. Very thief like tactic to do. As a warrior you should be ashamed at yourself to resorting to such cowardly tactics.
Aww, now you’re making me wish we had gravija or something so we can pull people off of walls.
Power is nice, but don’t underestimate the power of those bleeds. You can stack bleeds pretty quickly and they do a ton of damage. And after they’ve blown all their cleanses you can stack em on again relatively easily and watch them bleed out. I’ve become somewhat sadistic and don’t even bother spiking people anymore, just laugh and watch them bleed numbers, struggling to rally. Try both and see what you like. you probably have a ton of badges anyway, if you don’t care about looks just buy gear with both stats for badges and test it out.
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Wish I could get on right now and fight a bit more before reset. Wont be home for awhile though.
Yay! Thank you. Atleast I have an answer to that now.
Shots fired, everybody get under my shield of absorption!
You’re named after my favorite character from Valkyrie Profile! That has nothing to do with anything, just felt like pointing it out.
I don’t get why there’s so much arguing going on. This has been one of the most fun matchups we’ve had in awhile. BP and Ebay have both put up great fights, haven’t been bored once while I was in WvW like I am in some matchups. I hope we end up facing you guys again at some point in the future. And despite what some people may think, all 3 sides do have really great roamers. If you just hang by towers all day long looking for duels, you’re looking in the wrong spot. Of course if you fight near a tower, you’re going to find tower huggers. This is true on all sides. Walk around a little geez.
^Gonna have to agree with that. As long as you work well together it shouldn’t matter. Everyone has their preferences what they feel is the best group, but it all comes down to what works well with each individual person. It shouldn’t be too difficult to coordinate your group if you have some kind of voice chat to communicate with eachother.
You’ve made a classic mistake in not rolling an Ele. So, my advice is delete your other, clearly worthless characters and roll up a real winning class, elementalist. Then we’ll see you on the battlefield. :P
That’s pretty funny considering after all the nerfs it’s the weakest class in the game right now. You might as well advise him to stand around in wvw wearing his town clothes, as he’s a free lootbag either way. But that’s ok, the more eles there are, the more badges my warrior gets.
There’s something to be said about a 5 man group of thieves. Its scary for anyone you run into. And it’s pretty fun. I usually don’t play as my thief unless my guildmates are also on theirs. Coordinated backstabs on a single target are brutal. No one will survive, no matter what. The majority of the time though, i’m either on my bursty ele or guardian, one other guy is on his regen ranger, another on his bunker ele, and the remaining 2 using shout heal super tanky warriors who do ridiculous condition damage and never seem to be able to be dropped when there’s 10+ people on them.
they’ve even made youtube vids of themselves using these cheats, the flying, wallkwalking, instakill, etc. Why are these people not banned yet?
^And ascended gear. Why can’t we get ascended back items for badges? What about when ascended armor and weapons come out? Will WvW players get shafted again? I don’t want to craft or run fractals. I’d rather kill people and use my badges to buy better gear so I can kill more people.
Still doesn’t change the fact that our damage output is pitiful compared to all the other classes. They either need to up our base hp and armor or up our overall attack power. Why should we have the weakest defense and offense just because we can do a little bit of everything?
Why all these siege mastery things that make zerging and the overuse of siege even more rewarding? Why no defensive abilities? And IMO, the few defensive abilities we have now need to be buffed. They’re pitiful compared to the offensive ones. The siege masteries give such huge boosts but stuff like siege bunker gives a measly 5% for all those points invested in it. Should be a 25% boost since the offensive ones give so much benefit.
The instakill hack is becoming very, very popular now. people will tell you no, it’s a glitch, lag, etc, that’s why it didn’t show up in the combat log. But I find it hard to believe that the same 1 in a million glitch happened over and over again when I go back to fight a person who kept one shotting me with minimal damage in the hundreds and laughing about it, waiting for me to come back and fight them again, and the same thing happens again. And when you’re on a server that never has a queue, I don’t believe its lag. I’ve never experienced lag in this game except when we’re fighting one of the mega zergs.
More and more people seem to be complaining about his in map chat now. There seems to be a lot more people doing this now. Get hit once by some minor damage, then dead. Seems to happen most often when fighting necros. One of my guildmates was just fighting this necro. the necro stood there laughing over and over again while he was stabbing away at him. didn’t bother attacking, just laughed and when he got near death hit him ONCE instantly killing him. We came back looking for this guy again thinking it was just a fluke or something. Again, the dude laughs, 1 hit, then dead. How do you even deal with this kind of crap? They’re obviously cheating somehow. Doing a minor hit of a few hundred against someone with over 3k armor should not instantly kill them. And its not like Anet even does anything about it if you report them. Apparently we aren’t specific enough in our reports according to them. Look how long it finally took them to realize there was a problem with people being able to walk through the doors of certain towers despite the numerous reports about it since the beginning of the game.
You should do a whole comic strip. these drawings are hilarious.
I don’t think it would be too powerful considering how weak we are. Look at how hard warriors hit even without that ability. I can hit for over 30k with 100b. Why shouldn’t eles be able to hit that high? We can’t even do a fraction of that damage. We can hit about 10k with churning earth and firegrab if we spec to be somewhat glassy, but that’s about it and those moves are hardly spammable like 100b is. Lets not forget we’ve had our overall damage cut by 60% since beta. I think even 3% wouldn’t be enough, we should get 5%. We can’t truly be glass cannons. This is the first game I’ve ever played where the mage character is actually weak as hell. The mage is always supposed to be the long range nuker who deals insane damage, but can die from being sneezed on. Well they got the dying easily part right, but where’s the damage? We SHOULD deal more damage than warriors because of the fact we’re up close too and don’t have a warrior’s hp and armor.
^I told you, its the instakill cheat. It straight up kills you. Don’t go into downstate, just dead from full health.
I’m actually ok with them swapping GS burst skill with 100b. Our GS burst sucks and I rarely ever use it unless it’s for cleansing ire. I’ve always felt like Burst moves should be our finishing moves. Kind of like how Limit Breaks are in FF. They should be our super powerful, mess you up moves that are used to polish off a weakened opponent. 100b fits that so much better than the current crappy one which I cant even remember the name of because I use it so little. IF they do swap them, it needs some tweaking. It should be made stronger, although people will probably complain about that, and be more accurate and faster since we’d be using adrenaline on it. I just want our burst moves to be something big and flashy and worth spending adrenaline on. Not some crappy slash like our current one. If they wont swap them, then I want something cooler looking as our burst. Maybe we grab our opponent by the throat and toss them into the air, summon 100 greatswords and impale them with all the blades juggling them in the air, something like that. or even better, something like this…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QgX8RuEAoo
It happens. Its just a visual bug. It does that on all backpieces after you RTL. It comes back on its own. If you aren’t in combat, just sheath your weapon and it will come back. I have no idea why it does it, t just happens occasionally.
Could just be that instakill cheat that some people have been using. Wish I was joking about that. There really is an instakill cheat. Do any attack on you, and you instantly drop afterwards.
We’re only good at 2 things right now. Gimmicky burst build, which although fun as hell can still be outdone by any other class with their burst build with a fraction of the effort, and being everyone else’s boon monkey. That’s all we can do right now. We are not jacks of all trades, that would be engineer. We do 2 things that can be done better by other classes for less effort. We’re wanted for fire and water fields in wvw and that’s about it, but warriors can make fire fields as well, and rangers and engineers can make water fields, so we can be replaced there too. And necro always has been and always will be better at controlling zergs, even more so now with their fear wall and their gigantic marks. Guardians can buff as well as we can with shouts. And I don’t know where the rumor came from that we had the best burst healing, it is simply not true. That would be warrior. I’ve tested both ele and warrior in full clerics gear and warrior outdoes it by a long shot in burst healing. My shouts can heal for over 3k each and I can put 3 of them on my slot bar. That’s an over 9k heal all of which are on pretty decent cooldowns compared to us swapping to water and then dodgeing and healing for a little over 2k twice.
That looks really fun. Might have to try this at some point. Are you in all zerker gear or what?
^that sounds like a great idea. And if they do move bountiful power to arcane 25, they need to buff it to 3% per boon. Why? Warriors get a trait that gives them 3% damage per boon on your opponent. As if they don’t deal enough damage already. Buff ours to 3% or nerf theirs to 1% to make it fair. 1% is so pitiful its not even worth going past water 20 now unless you have an aurashare build. Balancing is fine, but nerfing things to the point that they’re so bad no one uses them any more and we’re FORCED to take something else instead because it’s so bad, isn’t a way to achieve balance. Make our other crappy stuff better. Stop making everything suck so bad that it doesn’t matter anymore where we put our points because they all end up being equally mediocre in the end.
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So I looked into this, and I thought it was fixed. Are you still seeing it? Where are you seeing it? What’s getting through? Keep in mind that condition damage will still tick, but NEW condies should not be able to go through.
I do not understand the design philosophy behind condition damage while in mist form.
Now that utility skills are no longer usable in mist form, all you can do is stand there helpless and watch your health go down for 4 seconds from stacks of condition damage. Healing in mist form would compensate for the condition damage, but now using mist form can be a death trap.At least the tool-tip should be change to reflect that you can still be immobilized and suffer conditions.
Thanks,
I don’t get why invincibility on us doesn’t work the same way it does on those guys at supply camps. Righteous indignation. THAT is invulnerability. You used to be able to kill them with conditions, but you can’t anymore, and they truly are invulnerable while they have that buff on them. Change the fracking tooltip so it no longer says invulnerable, or make it truly invulnerable. Read a dictionary and look up the word invulnerable, NOTHING should be able to hurt you while invulnerable. Make us take no damage at all while in mistform, change the tooltip so it no longer says invulnerable, or better yet unnerf mistform and let us heal while using it again. As crappy as mistform is now it should be on a 20 sec cooldown. 75 seconds for such a garbage utility is unacceptable. And while we’re on the subject of our ridiculous cooldowns, why the hell is Mesmer’s blink still a stunbreaker and has a much lower cooldown than lightning flash? I’d be happy if you removed all the damage it did completely and cut the cooldown in half or lower and put the stunbreak back on it. And cleansing flame is basically the same thing as the human skill prayer to Kormir. There’s no real difference in taking one over the other now. Put the stunbreaker back on it or cut the cooldown in half.
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Healing surge. I’ve tried the new signet, and yeah it’s great. But I still prefer healing surge just because of the adrenaline it gives me letting me use my longbow burst more often.
It should be a 5 point trait. Its absolute garbage for 25 points. It doesn’t make any kind of noticeable difference whatsoever. I’d rather have evasive arcana as the 25 point trait and then a much more powerful version of arcane precision as a grandmaster trait. EA would be good as a 25 point trait considering how much it’s been weakened. Its still decent, but no longer worthy of a grandmaster trait IMO.
I’m petty sure it doesn’t work at all. I think its one of our bugged traits that does nothing, I’ve never seen it do anything anyway.
So, will you guys be fixing armor of earth now too? Because that is no longer working.
I stopped using mistform when it was acting strange and started using armor of earth. I noticed that’s acting buggy as well. Same problems as with mistform. Someone messed something up really badly. Don’t know if its a problem with the class, or a problem with WvW, but it’s really annoying to say the least. Oh and armor of earth is no longer a stunbreaker. Got nailed with shield bash, popped armor of earth, and stood there stunned.
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I find it funny that thieves are the ones complaining most about this build. All those thieves who constantly spam on every single classes thread. “we aren’t OP L2P noob!” Well guess what? Warriors are no longer easy kills for talentless scrubs using an OP class with a broken mechanic like stealth. L2P noobs! Atleast you can still fracking see a warrior and attack him rather than blindly swinging hoping to hit him. Try slotting a stunbreaker or 2 instead of just abilities that stealth you or add to your already over the top damage.
I’ve always said the OUTMANNED buff should be +stats while the “orb” should be FLUFF meaningless to people to who care about fights, but worthwhile to the folks who don’t actually fight, like +MF +Gold +XP +WXP +Karma
They’ll never do that, it’s too much like common sense.
Yeah, too bad Anet has no common sense though. This idea is pretty much what every roamer would want. I was happy to see the orbs go bye-bye. Bringing them back is just going to reward zergy stacked servers even more, when they should be punished. There will basically be no point in roaming as the server with the orb bonus will always have a completely unfair advantage against you. Not only will the server with more people have a huge army to crush you with, they’ll also have higher stats as well. Who thought this was a good idea?
After playing as every class except necro, warrior is one of the 3 classes that I actually still enjoy playing as. The rest have gotten boring to me, but I always find myself coming back to warrior. Warriors are necessary in just about every group. I like feeling useful and not be a burden to my team. Warrior isn’t my main but I have spent hundreds of hours on it and have quite a few different builds for it.
Cant say I blame you, I’m guilty of doing the same. This new event really came at a bad time. We’re finally starting to go up against evenly numbered servers and everyone is pve farming. It would be nice to have events like this happen when we get stuck against uber zerg servers and get spawn camped, then I wouldn’t have to feel bad about not being in wvw as much.
Perhaps. They didn’t seem to have that many people on before when we were fighting them though. If they do have less it’s not by a huge amount though. All 3 servers seem relatively close in this match up. They could have a ton of people pve farming now. That new area is hard to resist, I know we’ve got a ton of people hanging there all day long that i’d usually see in wvw. destroyer farming is pretty nice.
Really gotta hand it to BP. despite having less people than us and Ebay, you guys really can put up a hell of a fight. And you really seem to want SM badly for some reason. I admire the fact that you never give up.
Eh, i’m not mad even though I main ele. It just gave me an excuse to play my warrior more. way easier to kill thieves on my warrior anyway. The funny part is a lot of them still think warriors will be easy kills like in the past. I love seeing the downed bodies after they come out of stealth.
I’m pretty sure it’s only attack damage. I seem to take around the same amount of condition damage with or without it. Doesn’t affect siege damage either. So it’s not really ALL damage.
I don’t want to go back to being kited around till I die while I wait for my heal, which doesn’t do enough to be back off cooldown.
This is what other class mains expect and want, though. Now they actually have to think and try and it really shows how the past months have spoiled them.
Yeah and I would think that someone who has played an ele would atleast be sympathetic to warriors seeing how badly ele has been butchered and is basically useless. now. Why would you want the same thing to happen to warrior? I’ve started using my warrior a lot more now because of how crappy ele has become. Its still good for sitting at a skill point and charging quartz for me atleast.
Celestial isn’t so great on warriors, but l’d go with divinity, or possibly some sort of rune that boosts power or toughness as those stats will be relatively low with celestial gear.
I have a thief friend who stealths me and then I sneak up on people, stun then, then 100b them as he backstabs them. No one lives through that. That’s always fun. Oddly enough I prefer thieves with me when i’m running around with my warrior.