You idea is based on the fact there is 0 need for the damage reduction provided by the gear. Which in theory you should have from advancing in the dungeon.
Cause a guy who is on level 1 could enter a dungeon level 30.
If there is really a need for the gear. Said guy will die. If there is not … then i dont know what is the whole point of that place anyway.
I give this my total support.
Totally being waiting to be able to use pole arms on my guard.
Well , to take the ranger pet is = to take any other core class mechanic away also.
That means people will have room to ask for all kind of crazy stuff heh.
Orr is empty, so capture the temples with your guild.
You can also roam around to kill Karkas in Southsun Cove. Those crabs have plenty of health to go around and they drop Vials of Powerful Blood. If your guild is on the Verge of being bored, attack the karka in the hive as a endboss to log off.
hmm , but what if my guild wants to collect seals for exotic skin armor and have 8-12 people in a party to do it? what if my guild doesn’t like the open world and prefers a dungeon setting?
My guild got around 500 players.
By this logic , what if my guild got 60/70 players ON (which is no major feat) and we want to get exotic skins.
Guess Anet need to add 60/70 man dungeons now.
Really , there is NO need in my opinion, better add open world stuff every guild or person can join.
Most likely due to extra balancing that comes with it. Atm they only need to worry about balancing the cd of each skill and such for availability.
With mana they will need to balance the cd with the mana cost for every skill every class got.
Energy + Cooldown is much easier to balance than Energy alone (Initiative) or Cooldown alone, because it allows the team to balance powerful abilities (cooldown) with a limited ability to chain them together in a short time (Energy).
Having Initiative alone or Cooldown alone is very flawed and makes me seriously doubt GW2 will ever become an e-sport.
I disagree with you there. From my point of view what you meant is that , Energy + Cd grants plus control BUT it is not easier to balance.
For a e-sport you are not wrong , the balance would become more precise therefore , yes better. But , balancing how much the cd + energy of each skill for sure takes a lot more work than just adding cd or energy to it.
That is not gonna happen , this is what i would say if Anet would stick to any of theirs initial ideas.
Now i will say , this is likely to not happen. Why you may ask?
Well the reason necro pet system is so bad , is rangers. Anet did want to to add control over necro pets because it would be similar to rangers.
What does this says?
Unless Anet is willing to toss way a core idea , that actually cut another class from being upgraded , this wont happen.
They already said they are looking into this. Just like they will add this gear to many kinds of gameplay.
If that is true? i dont know , i personally got 0 trust in Anet so i would call it 50/50.
If i think there is a need for this? Yes i think there is , after all i got better than to do than to farm forever. And i remember Anet saying i would not need to do that …
But then again … we return to Anet word having any value heh.
Most likely due to extra balancing that comes with it. Atm they only need to worry about balancing the cd of each skill and such for availability.
With mana they will need to balance the cd with the mana cost for every skill every class got.
I would bet most of the players that want to remove it completely are those that dont want to spend the money on the set. Simple like that. (while ofc im sure there is a minority with other reasons.)
I have a full exotic MF set with Pirate/Traveler runes and exquisite gems. I still want MF removed because it kittens my EVERYTHING.
Well i did say there is a minority.
Really this subject is tiresome, and yet i feel the need to come here and post again and again , so Anet does not think this is a one side idea.
DONT remove the MF , it is the players choice.
Honestly , people that does not want to pay for a MF set or dont want to wear it, i dont even waste my time on hearing. Get the set , get the bonus. It is a choice. Dont like it? That is ok also, just forget the bonus , that is all that is gonna happen.
For the problem IN dungeons , i agree that maybe Anet could find a solution , it is true players should be able to pick if they want MF or not , but dungeons require a bit more planing to work and thus people should be focused on the task of finishing it.
Like always this is the simple opinion of me and others tons of people that actually like MF.
Yes, you’re right, I don’t want to spend the money for it, because guess what, I could be spending that money on much more useful runes, like Dwayna and Water runes, which I believe are currently at around 2 gold a piece. Much more of a worthy investment than “greed runes”.
That is perfectly fine also , forget the bonus and move along. Like i said it is a choice.
If you want to pick not to use it , ok nobody is gonna force you to do it.
But tons of other players want to use it. So it is simple like that , they made their choice , you made yours.
Honestly when the problem big enough people will come and rage on the forums they cant find parties to lvl X.
No , most of them wont use a third party site to form groups.
And then Anet will find a way to fix their mess.
Well if Anet keeps their promises (something that got a similar % to happen like a meteor hitting a human) , they will add top stats gear to many kinds of game play. Or so they said.
Basically it will happen if we get lucky.
Irony On No , PvE areas outside dragons and ori nodes must remain dead! Irony Off
Yeah i agree with you. Honestly , atm it is more rewarding to me to spend time in LA than get out and play this game on the PvE world. You get nothing by doing that. Just the same i get from sleeping in LA. Well if you learn to play TP , it is actually more rewarding to sleep in LA.
I can’t give you sources, but I’ve heard guildies rumor about ascended gear going to come from dungeons explorable mode chest and just better and more unique drops from them.
Rumors are generally 0% reliable really, hell at this point in time i imagine most ppl barely trust things the dev’s says directly, and simply want to see before they trust/believe it.
And not all people are in big guilds with tons of lvl 80’s they can just ask and get a run with whenever they want
Yeah pretty much anything Anet says means nothing to me. Is like believing in a politician, they wont tell you the truth mate , they will lie all they want/need just to make you hear what you want to hear , that is all.
The good side is , im in one of those 500 guilds full of 80s all around , so yeah finding a dungeon group is not a hard task.
That is how im getting my HotW gear and AC weapons.
Honestly the old content is not obsolete , it is doing what it was meant to do , atract players for the skins.
The problem is , now there is content calling players for stats. Skins cant compete.
Honestly , to me , PvP in the world map would only make the game sink even more. im a PvE player.
Could they open NEW servers for PvP? Yeah im ok with that , but keep the ones already out PvE only and dont change the rules even more than they already have.
Really this subject is tiresome, and yet i feel the need to come here and post again and again , so Anet does not think this is a one side idea.
DONT remove the MF , it is the players choice.
Honestly , people that does not want to pay for a MF set or dont want to wear it, i dont even waste my time on hearing. Get the set , get the bonus. It is a choice. Dont like it? That is ok also, just forget the bonus , that is all that is gonna happen.
For the problem IN dungeons , i agree that maybe Anet could find a solution , it is true players should be able to pick if they want MF or not , but dungeons require a bit more planing to work and thus people should be focused on the task of finishing it.
Like always this is the simple opinion of me and others tons of people that actually like MF.
Honestly , this would only be viable on a very small size thing , like a SPvP map that we could tag teams and would have different mechanics and all that.
But there is noway i see such big change being implemented. Too much of the ingame content would need to be changed to fit it now.
I will agree with the 2 above me.
Honestly , MF is fine , can be annoying in dungeons , but that is it.
I would bet most of the players that want to remove it completely are those that dont want to spend the money on the set. Simple like that. (while ofc im sure there is a minority with other reasons.)
Really the “I dont want to use it , so other should not have that option either” logic is really annoying.
They are the easiest dungeons of any MMO I’ve ever played. I’ve played most of them since UO.
That is not true in my opinion heh.
They are hard if you compare to WoW and SW:TOR for sure. And only role i played in both games was tank, so it was just a dps following up.
Still they are not really hard , is just that on those 2 dungeons were really easy.
In this game dungeons are normal , dont think they are easy or hard particularly. they do require a bit more talking and planing.
It does require a massive grind to acquire the ascension gear atm (at least what we can get of it anyway).
To put it simply , almost nobody will be able to get their hands on it , thus , people will keep using rare/exo MF gear mostly anyway.
While true … the people that actually manage to farm it one day , will not have to worry about less stats.
I have to say No on this as well. I have been asking people on gear and I am sure that they like to not be stalked by someone as they ‘inspect’ them. Some have responded and some have not. Its a good way of keeping the mystery along with privacy… If you want to know where I got it you can ask me. I am not sure if everyone else is doing that too…
The problem with this is , people lie.
Anyone can say they using X set with Y stats.
And they could be using another thing entirely. That is why people need the inspection option.
In a perfect world where everyone is honest im sure they dont need this.
Heh yeah , wish they gave us players one chance to cut Logans head , i would make it count.
He is the sole reason i already dislike human story begin, just keep skipping everything and rush that.
Yeah , i love everything about norn , less their body size.
But oh well , cant have everything.
My human is the pretty one , my norn is the cool one.
Honestly? This shield not even compare to the legendary. The legendary shield is simple amazing.
But then again , this is a matter of opinion heh.
Honestly , Anet most likely is having a hard time balancing 40 static skills. You want to mess that up badly here.
Not gonna say it is bad or good. But im gonna say dont complain when ele skills are even more UP cause now they can combo in crazy ways , and you MUST do that to be effective.
Well i was ok with it really. Till the gear grind and the cuts to the event farms.
Now is all about fractals, hell world PvE i even take a look at the dragons , other than that im at the city or completing daily.
People complain nobody is there doing events? Hell why would i be losing me time past the 5 daily ones with poor rewards?
Then again , like others said. This game will simple not die most likely , the forum is a vocal minority most players are just playing. granted less log every week. But im sure enough to keep it going will remain in the end.
Well honestly speaking , only time i used to stop and talk (like small talk) to my party was during farms, where i actually got to kniw many of the players on my friend list.
Since we used to have sometime to relax between the events. Now that Anet nerfed that … well i got my guild + friend list, but i dont really small talk to players outside them.
1) Make a place we can go farm without using our brains. Like plinx was. It was a great way to pass time and talk in guild chat. Now we gotta do dungeons to get anything worth our time because world wise 5 events/day are all that gotta be done.
2)Add gear with equal stats to ascension gear like you said to other ways. Like vendors and WvW. Only getting it from dungeons is pretty much WoW grind all over again.
Honestly no.
Reason: Anet making the game get direct interference from GW1 makes no sense. They are 2 different games , tons of players does not even posses GW1.
One thing is HoM , which is fluff , another is game buffs.
Well first my sig answers you last question heh. Still i hold some hope Anet might fix this before i leave , cause i really never go back to MMOs , even without subs , so i want to make sure before i leave.
Now i find that GW2 congruent population … strange. Not saying it is wrong , maybe it is right and all. But honestly , the game is very new and the population is still adjusting.
My guild with 500 player and people not coming back every week and we having to kick/ recruit more every week … well dunno , im not saying the game is dying , just that i find the 423k the “high season” , and now we going back to a more normal population.
Will GW2 die? I believe the chance of this happening is so small we can almost say it will not happen for sure.
I dont understand , till my limited knowledge goes , SPvP gear is the same for everybody.
How can anyone become a ubber char? Guess i gotta login and go check SPvP.
Well Anet said they will add max stats gear to many part of the game , so we dont have to farm fractals to get it. Still waiting for this.
Honestly , i dont care about people argument it is 2/5% better , if it IS better , then it is better. And Anet promised there would be no grind for max stats gear , ONLY for looks.
Actually I just watched a you-tube video this morning about what Anet said and didn’t say. They said there would be gear to have to chase after, unlike in other games the gear will not be the end all. So a player that chooses to not chase will not be negatively impacted to the person that doesn’t.
Well that is one video , on posts im quite sure they did , but now , dont ask me to go find it heh.
Also , the post they said they will add to many parts of the game is quite recent and was made to … “diminish” the rage over the gear , quite sure can still find it easily.
What’s the big deal? What would it hurt? What’s the worse that could happen if you did? How much work could it possibly be?
Honestly , it does require plus work.
When Anet says there is a unofficial RP server , that only means , “RP players can gather here and find more like them” , BUT , they dont take any responsibility over the “special” kind of grief RPers got. Which means a few more guys to check complains … cause RPers server do generate lots more than a normal server.
That means , the server rules are the same , only part of the players in it are not.
Also to add the server now would require Anet to add another server , since they cant really force the not RPers to move simple because they want to change the server tag. usually in games there is a warning before you create in RPers or PvP servers ,right? While i admit , no idea how much it would cost for Anet to create/sustain another server.
First GW2 does not got the same world PvP that wow got. So i dont think WvW will die because of LFG , since well … it kinds of does not depend on it for anything.
Second , usually in GW2 you need to talk , simple because this time there is no set roles , there is no tank that will run ahead followed by a healer. People now in dungeons gotta talk more to do it.
Third , also not like WoW , GW2 does not have a healer/tank/dps , that means people would not need to wait 30 mins till the group got people for roles … since there are no roles to begin with.
Still , i agree with you since few classes make a dungeon much easier. I would rather pick who comes with me to make sure i got people on those ones.
Heh you should understand that , when the majority of the people fail to understand what someone said , usually is not their fault , since it is on the person explaining the obligation to get the message passed.
Either way , your idea still will be major on skill balance , like i said before , you just lack the vision to see it. Even more if we cant change this second set later on.
First , your idea goes against what Anet said about best matches , by that i mean , a player should not feel the need of picking a race/class combo. But now it goes to class1/class2 combo. Because unless Anet nerf it like they did to racials , best matches will appear.
Now you gonna say , Anet can balance so they dont? No Anet cant do it easily. Just like Anet could not balance racials so it could not happen. Know why?
Cause racials are static , just like your idea of each class2 will be. Therefore (lets say they add 8 skill weapons+uti and some stats) , some of the 8 skills + stats will make more dif to one class than the other. And that will drive player to pick said combo like guard/necro or ele/war (just adding some that would make some sense depending on the stats/skill added)
So do you now see? What you think would not cause a major unbalance would actually do it. Because , if Anet wants to make sure class1/class2 does not happen , they gonna have to invent entire new ways to balance this game.
Technically, they would have to create different models for different races.
Which is 3 weights x 4 other races and make sure it looks right.In terms of Role Play, cultural armoursmiths would have to “tailor” the sizes and specifics of the cultural armour and that means they would charge a higher premium for their efforts compared to just doing it for their race. (Of course this doesn’t matter because it’s not real life, but it doesn’t make sense to reduce the price of other races’ armour).
Heh honestly , i also dont see much sense to it. But was my only idea to turn this in a event most will rage for getting nothing from , on something people get something.
Not gonna go over it dropping from special events and such , cause that would not really be fair to people that got it for the normal price in my opinion.
Well Anet said they will add max stats gear to many part of the game , so we dont have to farm fractals to get it. Still waiting for this.
Honestly , i dont care about people argument it is 2/5% better , if it IS better , then it is better. And Anet promised there would be no grind for max stats gear , ONLY for looks.
They stated from the begining they aint adding mounts nor flyers.
They also said there would be no gear grind for max stats gear only for looks … things change eh.
If you had a choice between mounts or waypoints… which would you choose?
Personally , mounts. They look awesome and WPs … they are just blue floating cubes.
That said this is the 100º thread about this.
Well I would wanna keep the armor that I bought, not have it returned. Unless you mean the price just returns. I mainly would want it for skin purposes.
What he is saying is that , they would have like halloween craft weapons 2 versions, one that got a time duration , till the end of the event , another that will cost the normal price that lasts forever.
And yes im against a holyday that only a very small part of the game population can really get anything from. True , they could make the armor cheaper , but from 119g , well they would need to go down a lot. And that would make people that got for a normal price get really mad also.
Think only solution i can see , is to make all other races armor cheap , and to keep each race original the usual price. This way everyone would be able to get the other races armor , but would still need to work for their own, like right now.
Yeah … most of the changes seem to be based to allow people to run a guild like a fractal LFG.
I understand the need of a LFG feature , but in my opinion we should wait Anet solution , instead of making guilds something like that.
Well , they got many players from tons of countries. Can honestly any country claim a disproportional majority? I wonder.
And i tell you , each new language added cost a LOT. No joke.
What do you do in game, afk in LA?
I can get a gold an hour easily just doing events, People who farm can get up to 3g an hour if they try. Stop trying to get price nerfs for everything thats out of your reach and work for it like everybody else (Yes, I remember your name from the precursor threads, I guess you got your wish). T3 cultural is the only armor skin people actually have to work for and I enjoyed working towards mine.
I think you are missing the whole point of my argument , or maybe of the thread itself.
Im not saying they should lower the price , actually i did not say even ONCE in my replies they should.
What im saying is , this whole new holyday week would only benefit the rich, because they are the ones who can pay 119g for one set of armor.
This is not me telling them to lower the price , this is me saying my opinion is that they should not implement entire events for just a few people to take part.
Honestly , it may look easy to add. But it is not.
Reason Anet took this out is because it would be hell to balance. may seem easy to you but make the math. each class is 8 new combos , that means a total of 64 combos Anet will have to balance. (im not even adding the new skill count which would make the number sky rocket)
While i understand this could be nice , it would give a LOT of work to Anet , which at the game launch left this out just because of this.
Honestly in my opinion , that will be a day for the rich.
No normal player can buy a cultural set to begin with. At least no t3… anyway even look at t2/t1 anyway?
Normal player here with a few pieces of t3 armor. I beg to differ. It really isnt that hard to get.
Really? it costs like 119g does it not? Honestly speaking, that is out of my reach unless i save for a LONG , LONG time.
Well i would not use it myself. but i dont see why not add this.
People then can simple decide if they want or not.
Maybe a PvP player on the other hand , got a reason to think this is bad.
Honestly in my opinion , that will be a day for the rich.
No normal player can buy a cultural set to begin with. At least no t3… anyway even look at t2/t1 anyway?
I spent around 630k karma on the balt temple to other day… that is far from enough.
Fact is , dont worry , you may think it is imbalanced right now. But when you get to 80 (if take a normal amount of time , not lvl 1/day and do daily) , you will notice … you need much more than 1 million karma.
it may annoy some ppl but i know i would rather fight for it and maybe races can be sold in gem store for the ppl it does annoy
In my opinion the problem is a but bigger than that. It is a big problem if it annoys the new players directly at the start like that.
Also simple adding to the shop would not work to me either. One thing is to say to the player he needs the expansion X to have access to the Y race. Another is the say they need to buy each race individually from the shop after they just got the game and the exps packs.
To me , the possible drawback in attracting new players to the game , makes this idea not worth it.
You’re forgetting that nothing actually changes for those that don’t pay the fee.. for
those who want things to stay as they are, nothing changes, there is no difference. You
have your BTP game with your gem shop, and nothing has changed for you.You just add an additional version of the game for those that want to pay, they get a
better version, and after a few months the improvements get transferred to the normal
version. The normal version stays the way it is with its 2 skill programmers, nothing, at
all, changes for the original game. Improvements they would never get though, they’ll
now be able to receive due to the income of the paying customers.The game stays buy to play, there is just an additional version to generate the income
this game needs to prevent itself from crashing and dying. Because having two people
work on the most important and most difficult part of an MMO, is a recipe for early
death, the same early death all other post-WoW MMOs have suffered from.There is no reason to complain against this really, because nothing changes for those
that don’t want to pay a monthly fee.. all that happens is those that do want to pay a
monthly fee, now get the chance to do this, and they get rewarded for it, which is fair.But because they pay, those that don’t pay get a much better product. An improved
product they would otherwise never get at all because there is no income.. people are
asked to pay for a game with bugged, badly designed and underpowered skills, and no
amount of game content and islands will fix that, if the skills you use to play content,
are not good, then the content can be amazing, it will not be appreciated or enjoyed.
Heh , it seems you either still need to get used to it or you are pretending you dont know for the sake of your argument.
Most people are petty when it comes to games.
Now most can turn around from the legendaries and ascension gear , because they know it is effort put in these ,while many already complain people got these by exploits or buying gold.
Can you imagine what would happen , if people got better stuff because they pay the game? People would not simple understand that is 5 months later be added to them also. After all , this is not a free to play , they all paid the box. To them Anet worked a totally different way.
This is my simple opinion really, maybe im the wrong one.
Either way we both gotta agree on one point, this is a huge bet. It could work like you said , and the game would get more money , but could also break the game. Dont base your decision on direct logic like people were computers. That is not the way things work usually.
I took special care to gather this when i saw my server owning, something not usual , well it does not even happen anymore.
One of my 80s got 100% and the other 2 80s got 100% WvW , they still need most of the open world map.
My point here is , i dont need this , but i think a minor modification would be welcome.
The fact is the 3 BL are , pretty much , equal (i did 3 times to 100% so yes , i noticed there actually minor changes , like for an example the skill points)
Still i think players should not be forced to explore the BL 3 times , that was … boring. the map is pretty much the same.
Doing EB and 1 BL should be enough in my opinion.