Guild Wars 2

He’s not comparing the effort, he’s comparing the time gating.

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Player Character.9467:

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Dolan.3071:

Six silver and a weapon that is now useless outside of CoF. So really, it’s the price of a whole new weapon, which is kind of counter productive if you’re not an ‘8 hour a day kitten $$$ farmer’.

Is it weird that i have multiple weapons with different slaying sigils on them just to be 10% better in dungeons? They dont really cost much if you run CoF/CoE alot.. so i find them worth it

But would you really want a greatsword with each of those or just 1 greatsword with night?

My main GS has night, but i have another with force and then another with bandit/undead slaying. Just so im ready for most situations… although i rarely use GS.. so doesn’t really matter to me.

Just saying colesy’s 2x smothering 1x night isn’t exactly a good suggestion for 3 sigils between a 2hander and 2 1handers.

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Dolan.3071:

Six silver and a weapon that is now useless outside of CoF. So really, it’s the price of a whole new weapon, which is kind of counter productive if you’re not an ‘8 hour a day kitten $$$ farmer’.

Is it weird that i have multiple weapons with different slaying sigils on them just to be 10% better in dungeons? They dont really cost much if you run CoF/CoE alot.. so i find them worth it

But would you really want a greatsword with each of those or just 1 greatsword with night?

1. No. Again, your math didn’t mean anything. You pulled numbers out of the air and made a statement that makes no sense.
2. The correct math is high school level.

damage = noncrits contribution + crits contribution
= strength of a noncrit * noncrit chance+ strength of a crit * crit chance
= attack*(1-crit chance) + attack*(1.5+critdmg)*crit chance

Edit: the table you linked even reinforces exactly what i said…

If the spawns are so ridiculous then why can they keep the spawns down with half stats?

Esplen.3940:

On a full zerker Guardian, 15% crit chance will add (assuming 100% crit damage)…

0.15 * 2.5 = .375 or 37.5% more damage.

The 2.5 is 250% crit damage because base crit damage is 150% + the 100% bonus crit damage from stats).

Just saying.

That’s… not how the math works… the obvious giveaway being that the impact of an increase in crit chance is dependent on the existing crit chance. This is where diminishing returns from stacking only a single stat comes into play.

More relevant example, 40% crit chance, 100% crit dmg (on hero panel)
=base*1.6
55% crit chance, 100% crit dmg
=base*1.825
40% crit chance, 115% crit dmg
=base*1.66

In this scenario, 15% crit dmg was only a 3.75% more dps while 15% crit chance is 14.0625% more dps.

It takes 2 minutes of EFFORT but in terms of timegating the community he’s right, to get a set of celestial armor you basically have to wait another month from their date of release (assuming you log in every day). Celestial crafting has been made as some sort of daily quest.

imagangsta.1349:

Esplen.3940:

Right Hand Strength increases critical damage.

Also, have you seen Berserker Guardians? They use Sword and stomp people.

That is critical chance not critical damage, “Critical-hit chance with one-handed weapons is increased by 15%.” http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Right-Hand_Strength. Also full berserker guardians…not a good idea.

Most situations 15% crit chance will do more than 15% crit dmg. Their impact on your damage is based on multiplying the 2. Crit dmg will usually be a higher value (minimum is 50%).
If a>b then a*(b+.15)>(a+.15)*b because 0.15a>0.15b

Contribution from criticals to your damage output is calculated as base*(1+crit chance*(crit dmg in hero panel + 0.5))

Oh was it put back in? it seems to lose/gain functionality randomly every once in a while. When I first used the item in like… october there was a full jump animation.

http://huntersinsight.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/screens.jpg
coats?

I wouldn’t really count the non-aoe or tiny aoe absorbs/reflects that you can’t actually do anything during as being on the same level as a real projectile reflection/absorption skill. A warrior blocking with their shield isn’t doing much…

Was referring to him telling people to buy 2 smothering sigils, but I’m guessing he means one on each weapon set and night on offhand. Would suggest moving to night on your 2hander as well, it’s actually cheaper in the long run because of all the extra use you can get out of it.

doesn’t smothering not stack with itself?

‘reward of heavy armor’ lol…

axe/axe is pointless, axe 5 is lower dps than axe 1. the damage boost was in spvp

I like how you use all your burst you can on a trash mob and show a kill time. As if eviscerate wouldn’t 1 shot it…

Fenrir.5493:

Cyhann.2609:

But, tell me one thing, how can you even block an attack you can’t see? o_O

Its called instinct, its called experience, its called sixth sense, believe it or not, but a person who has a lot of experience in battle can predict something like this.

The same way you know when a thief stealths you sense their backstab coming then you block.

It’s called there’s a shield in my face and you were dumb enough to swing at it. Or, ya know, aegis…

notebene.3190:

You know, like “Why we had to make the Plush Griffon forget how to swim because he was overpowered.” (I joined the ‘rolls eyes’ team on that one!)

How about “Why we had to make the Quaggan Baby forget how to jump.”

Just gonna drop this here for people who want to know about what AR they should have at what level fractals.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Agony

Fairly certain the point is to require you to have access to your keep.

Umei.7052:

Quarktastic.1027:

As punishment, Anet will add 1000 of these to his home instance.

hahahahha reminds me of zelda when you kill too many chickens xDDD

There’s actually a reference to that in guild wars 2.

Talindra.4958:

hello. if you think you are good player and can manage higher lvl fractal, i advise to do fractal 20. even without AR it is possible until around lvl 30. me and my team did not have ar until lvl 30 then we were running at ar 5 till aroun dlvl 38.
my advise is to join lvl 20 team everyday and play to lvl up ur char the reason being is that you tend to get better and more experience player at 20 above. good luck.

… you got to fractal 38 and had ONE ring… and it was a REGULAR ring?… and here i thought rng hated me

Also 20 with 0 agony is 30% per tick from agony… that’s not exactly a great plan for some1 just starting.

ilr.9675:

oh look its this thread again.
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Can’t you guys just keep it in one place for a change?
I see all this crap about how everything’s a faceroll, BRB AFK autoattacking, and Anet’s bad at dungeons etc.. etc.. But where’s all threads talking about the mechanics that shake up the damage equations? Just not popular? Afraid to actually admit there’s some that DO?

Could you make a list of ones that actually DO? and not just ones that are objects and therefore ignore crits.

It doesn’t matter how casual or hardcore you are at wvw, you’re still going to get roughly the same number of badges per hour. It also doesn’t take very long to get a stack of badges.

stemare.2578:

Player Character.9467:

That would make every map completion following your first way too easy.

I disagree. The hard part of map completion are hearts/vistas/WvW maps/PoI, unlock waypoints is the easiest part.

+1 to the OP!

So having to actually travel to hearts/vistas/pois was instant for your first time? -_-

Mc Stabby.2509:

Which then begs another question….Account bound items. How do I get those from 1 toon to the next ?

Try the bank?

Mail is essentially free infinite storage, being able to mail yourself would remove and impact of an inventory limit…

because poof now you can move your gold find amulet (or w/e other utility infusion) to any character you want at any point

Jzaku.9765:

Player Character.9467:

YuiRS.8129:

Some of our traits also don’t make sense, like Distracting Strikes requiring an interrupt, while none of our Condi weapons have interrupts and taking Physical skills just to make this traits work is a giant waste.

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“Some of our traits also don’t make sense, like Slashing Power requiring a greatsword, while none of our Condi weapons are greatswords and…”

I am unsure if you even understood that. Distracting strikes applies confusion. Which is a condition that scales with condition damage. Which none of the interrupting weapons have application of. Which means that if you spec into distracting strikes it’s going to be very hard to apply other types of conditions making it a very bad trait for condition builds.

But the thing that makes the least sense about that trait is that interrupting people means stunning them, which means they are incapable of doing things, which means they take no damage from it for a few seconds while they are stunned.

It applies 4 stacks for 8 seconds (base, also it’s 9.6 with the condi duration from just getting the trait) so the duration of the stun isn’t going to eat it up. In a condi build you apply it using an offhand shield (sword&board) which you would hybrid, not pure condition dmg. As it sits in the strength line however, it is also positioned nicely for CC builds (but not an X/X/30/30/X pure defense build) to grab a bit of power, extra time on cripples/immobilizes, and to stick confusion on enemies between CC skills.

If they stuck it in arms a hybrid build would have to pick between it and blademaster. If it were in defense then it would be ignored for cleansing ire, in tactics you would be making a supporty build and there are much better traits again at the master level, and for discipline there’s mobile strikes. In strength it provides an option for somebody using the line for condition duration.

That would make every map completion following your first way too easy.

YuiRS.8129:

Some of our traits also don’t make sense, like Distracting Strikes requiring an interrupt, while none of our Condi weapons have interrupts and taking Physical skills just to make this traits work is a giant waste.

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“Some of our traits also don’t make sense, like Slashing Power requiring a greatsword, while none of our Condi weapons are greatswords and…”

Mechanic too hard, must be bug. Needs moar banner rangers.

That’s basically an even tradeoff on the auto attack and just an extra tick on ur 2 skill. You could get more damage out of empowered or empower allies.

Grok Krog.9581:

I believe the off-hand axe is more for using axe 5 inside the Combustive Shot AoE to spread the fire more. Though with the amount burning it does you might not need that

Axe 5 procs 1 whirl finisher, not 15. It’s pretty lame.

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Broadicea.8294:

ugh it’s sooooo difficult to find a non warr/mes party

http://youtu.be/1nCWHb8JamU

[thanks neigeux!]

lol, thats a lot quicker then it takes for me to find zerker groups :p (might be my timezone though >>) Thanks for making this video… will prove useful for later threads I bet lol.

How long does it normally take you? Last time I bothered to grab pugs for cof p1 I had 5 join requests b4 I tabbed back…

Normally takes me 2-3min. No joke…im not sure if its my timezone or i always get unlucky :/

Well if you really want to keep doing CoF P1 I would suggest making a list of guildies/friends and running with them. Setup a voice chat, muscle memory the run and try to keep yourselves entertained.

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This

oh and this

For it to do the crazy damage it does it still needs some warrior support. So its not that good solo, still powerful though.

Hammer yes, the first one not so much. Ele w/FGS can take down multiple LA practice dummies solo. The real requirement is a wall.

SPvP gear is bound to your character to keep you from selling it to other people. This 100% makes sense. To put it on another character deposit it, it will appear in your SPvP locker. Now go to the locker in the mists on whatever character you want to wear that item on and withdraw it and equip it.

Next time take the 5 seconds and just ask somebody in your guild or in LA b4 you QQ the boards.

@OP
So what you’re saying is the reason you played GW1… was to be handed kitten for free in GW2…

Do you approach all MMO’s with this job mentality in the hopes of getting stuff in return from their hypothetical sequels?

False, I killed more. Leveled to 80 on nothing but bunnies.

This

oh and this

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Broadicea.8294:

ugh it’s sooooo difficult to find a non warr/mes party

http://youtu.be/1nCWHb8JamU

[thanks neigeux!]

lol, thats a lot quicker then it takes for me to find zerker groups :p (might be my timezone though >>) Thanks for making this video… will prove useful for later threads I bet lol.

How long does it normally take you? Last time I bothered to grab pugs for cof p1 I had 5 join requests b4 I tabbed back…

Running into wvw with those pve max dps builds does have 1 purpose tho. Pop endure and eviscerate those glass backstabbers.

And it’s completely pointless if your opponent can remove that stability.

Your only condition cleansing is on your burst skill and you’re pure melee with all your blocks on 1 weapon set… what’re you going to do if anybody chills/immos/cripples you when you swap to axe/axe?

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/85592/BowBug.JPG

Don’t touch stronger bowstrings. Wouldn’t even really be worth it if it wasn’t bugged.

Puandro.3245:

Player Character.9467:

Yamsandjams.3267:

redslion.9675:

Player Character.9467:

o.O the private messages don’t even make sense, the engi died not the warrior… he must be used to people whispering him about his dumb hacks

It might be skyhammer:

since the patch, while messing in hotjoin, people call me noob if I kill them 1v1 with my warrior. If later they manage to kill me (luck, elites, stuff like that), they don’t say a thing.

It’s like some people feel the game is reversed now: the one who dies wins. The first team to reach 500 loses.XD

The private messages show the warrior calling the engineer a noob because he got the living puppy owned out of him while using a hack, and the engineer calling him an offensive term using some kind of broken-up pseudo-English. I think you guys are reading them in the wrong direction.

“shutup you get killed back and yell hack.”
^this is from the engi

He was saying i died to him but i don’t know why.

Ya that’s why I said

o.O the private messages don’t even make sense, the engi died not the warrior… he must be used to people whispering him about his dumb hacks

his message sounds like he’s just so used to people dying to him then calling out his hack that he assumed you died to him

Yamsandjams.3267:

redslion.9675:

Player Character.9467:

o.O the private messages don’t even make sense, the engi died not the warrior… he must be used to people whispering him about his dumb hacks

It might be skyhammer:

since the patch, while messing in hotjoin, people call me noob if I kill them 1v1 with my warrior. If later they manage to kill me (luck, elites, stuff like that), they don’t say a thing.

It’s like some people feel the game is reversed now: the one who dies wins. The first team to reach 500 loses.XD

The private messages show the warrior calling the engineer a noob because he got the living puppy owned out of him while using a hack, and the engineer calling him an offensive term using some kind of broken-up pseudo-English. I think you guys are reading them in the wrong direction.

“shut up kitten, you get killed back and yell hack”
^this is from the engi

IllegalChocolate.6938:

Flissy.4093:

Celestial sucks.

Sure “stat combos”, but even then it should only ever be a mix of Berserker/Rampagers, which can be fixed by taking Berserker stats on ascended items and Rampagers on exotics. Taking Celestial just makes the player lose the useful stats in exchange for some crap like healing power or vitality which are NEVER useful.

Disclaimer: I talk in a PvE environment only.

I would like to see a full berserker team do FotM 48+ effectively, efficiently, and with 0 deaths.

They do, it’s called take 2 guardians and call me in the morning.

If glory could be converted into gold it would generate a significant amount of gold in the economy and relatively no tradeable goods. The inflation would suck…

“Historically accurate” hammers also wouldn’t make craters… why should your character swing something designed to be light enough that you could still fight at a reasonable speed when hammer animations aren’t?

Garenthal.1480:

TwoBit.5903:

The engine and camera keep JPs from being a sensible experience.

Agreed. It’s much worse if you’re playing as one of the bigger races, but I find it to be tolerable as a human. I do enjoy the jumping puzzles, mind you – they’re often very fun – but the fact that many are temporary is off-putting.

Temporary?…

Wat?