Guild Wars 2

Move along. Nothing but a bunch of crybabies here. L2P

Comparing different classes is like comparing apples to oranges.

Don’t get mad that DH is no longer useless. Could it be that the counter-play is just not fully discovered yet?

My condi druid trap build has bigger spike dmg and more sustain… constant bleed, burn and poison – usually one of them is at 10+ stacks. Why don’t you just say you hate traps.

I could make a case that any class is OP given the right play style.

Swagger.1459:

Thank you all for reading this well thought out and really awesome suggestion!

Just because you say it doesn’t make it true. This is not a good idea. Just about every class has some sort of “safe stop” and stealth stomps are the least of these. When you are in stealth you still take damage, while most other safe stomps involve blocks or invulnerability. When I get downed and the enemy disappears, I assume a stomp is incoming. If you don’t like stealth stomps, don’t get downed. Problem solved.

sophiewhite.3149:

sephiroth.4217:

Please remove the PvE crap from PvP, thankyou.

Otherwise don’t change Khylo, it’s the only map where I can go strait to enemy treb, kill the stupid map mechanic and just have a game against 5 other players with no PvE clutch bullkitten.

Better yet

How about fixing the clock tower? Camera angles get whack inside that thing because it’s so enclosed, people accidently throw skills on the roof and then there’s targeting and path obstructions from sitting near the windows.

Then there’s also unfair pathing that people can abuse with blink and many other skills that teleport you from GROUND FLOOR to the roof of clock tower.

Hammerguard.9834:

Fix your classes first. And I’m not even talking about balance, I mean build diversity. Give me terror necro and sword/dagger thief back.

Terrormancer is still a thing isn’kitten You just need to time skills a little better rather than spam fear and to rely on boon corruption timing a bit more.

until its a thief on the treb who repairs within 5 seconds of it being destroyed. meaning one of our players has to go off point to take it out again. and again and camp it.

Camping enemy treb? Is this a thing?

Fivedawgs.4267:

No @ROC and @Nick, if you want pve mastery, xp, or whatever you have to play pve.

So then the only thing I can do with my tomes of knowledge is ping them in map chat to impress the noobs in the pvp lobby? Lame

Is it really that detrimental to pve?

Fivedawgs.4267:

It’s fine as it is…

This, except I would say let conditions do damage to treb.

Muchacho.2390:

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Muchacho.2390:

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Furious.1283:

You get a spirit shard for each tome if your character is already level 80, read the description.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tome_of_Knowledge

Great…

I have over 1,600 spirit shards…

More stuff i don’t need.

I think we should be able to get exp on mastery, not a whole lvl, but maybe a set value or something like 5%-10% of a mastery lvl…

But wouldnt that defeat the point of masteries? They are supposed to be the pve progression instead of better gear. So i dont think spvp (or WvW) should improve masteries.

The Tome of Knowledge is an item that allows you to gain levels in PVE but is most commonly acquired in PVP. Is it that far of a stretch to continue that logic from levels to masteries?

Well the levels are also for WvW, while masteries are pve only?

I used to play pve alot, but now it’s mostly pvp. I still go back to play new zones, but at the amount I play, it’ll take forever to finish my glider mastery…

You would still need to go into pve to get the mastery points. You would just be able to get exp from pvp. You can’t finish the mastery unless you have the points. So you wouldn’t be totally bailing on pve, you’d just be able to do the grindy part in pvp…

Muchacho.2390:

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Furious.1283:

You get a spirit shard for each tome if your character is already level 80, read the description.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tome_of_Knowledge

Great…

I have over 1,600 spirit shards…

More stuff i don’t need.

I think we should be able to get exp on mastery, not a whole lvl, but maybe a set value or something like 5%-10% of a mastery lvl…

But wouldnt that defeat the point of masteries? They are supposed to be the pve progression instead of better gear. So i dont think spvp (or WvW) should improve masteries.

The Tome of Knowledge is an item that allows you to gain levels in PVE but is most commonly acquired in PVP. Is it that far of a stretch to continue that logic from levels to masteries?

Phil.8901:

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R O C.6574:

When the other team’s lowest scoring player has more points then our top scoring player, and we still win the match XD

Here’s a match i had the other day. Perfect example:

Well, yes, it’s pretty evident they zerged the entire game creating too much overnumbered fights (like 3 vs 1) or zerging people far from nodes.

They rotated in a terrible way to lose a game like this.

Splitting points for kills and caps might bring the personal score back in line. In this match, their zerg was awarding kill points to 4 or 5 players for each kill.

We really weren’t decapping that much, we just fought on point and they would end up getting 3 kills on a point they never decapped. If we had gotten point ticks for fighting on capped points that would also help with bringing the personal score in line.

Lucred.1802:

mrauls.6519:

I hate Khylo with a passion, and the treb is a contributing factor as to why. The treb does a crazy amount of damage and takes long to destroy. Please remove it or reduce the total amount of HP it has

How does the treb take a long time to destroy?

It’s like 8 seconds to dead on my rev and like 10 with sw/foc/GS DH. Maybe if you play a condi class since it doesn’t make sense to confuse/blind/bleed something with no brain/eyes/blood it could take a while, but c’mon. It takes 10x longer to run up the hill to it than it does to actually kill it, and half the classes can just teleport to it anyway.

The first (and last) time i tried to destroy treb on a condi build it took FOREVER (30+ seconds)

Furious.1283:

You get a spirit shard for each tome if your character is already level 80, read the description.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tome_of_Knowledge

Great…

I have over 1,600 spirit shards…

More stuff i don’t need.

I think we should be able to get exp on mastery, not a whole lvl, but maybe a set value or something like 5%-10% of a mastery lvl…

So once upon a time, I loved getting these.

But now i have 10 lvl 80 characters and over 400 tomes of knowledge. Is there any use for these besides leveling a character?

Can we get mastery experience from them please???

Not sure if this is the right forum, but since i get them all from PVP reward track i figure you all know what i’m talking about.

TheDevice.2751:

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Armenthos.9682:

Make it so that it can take damage from conditions please. Allows all players then to have equal chance to take it out and not just power builds.

+1 Destroying treb w/ a condi build takes FOREVER!!

A necromancer buff? Now you’re talking crazy. (all necros are condition bots)

Pretty weird to poison/confuse/bleed a treb…
But burning should definitely count

Armenthos.9682:

Make it so that it can take damage from conditions please. Allows all players then to have equal chance to take it out and not just power builds.

+1 Destroying treb w/ a condi build takes FOREVER!!

Phil.8901:

R O C.6574:

R O C.6574:

When the other team’s lowest scoring player has more points then our top scoring player, and we still win the match XD

Here’s a match i had the other day. Perfect example:

Well, yes, it’s pretty evident they zerged the entire game creating too much overnumbered fights (like 3 vs 1) or zerging people far from nodes.

They rotated in a terrible way to lose a game like this.

It would be nice to see game stats for all players, it might tell more of the story. We definitely out-rotated them, but is there a way to score that?

R O C.6574:

When the other team’s lowest scoring player has more points then our top scoring player, and we still win the match XD

Here’s a match i had the other day. Perfect example:

Does anybody remember S2 when Necro was broken as kitten and there would be 3 necros on every team?

+1 On the weirdness, but I have to admit I was motivated.

How could you score a carry in a match? If they could award pips for carrying a match, that would solve a LOT of problems in ranked pvp right now…

Rising Dusk.2408:

R O C.6574:

ROI? The dungeons were always very active until they nerfed the rewards. There was a good full year where all i did was PVP and dungeon runs.

Return On Investment. Basically, for ANet to continue updating dungeons and adding new ones, it would take a large amount of effort and provide little gain to the actual company. Fractals make a lot more sense for them to work on because it’s less effort and the players like new content there just as much as they would new dungeons.

Dungeons were active because they were extraordinarily lucrative. I don’t agree with the way they nerfed gold rewards, but the fact that basically no one played them following the nerf was very telling that people on average were running them strictly for loot and not for the content itself.

Of course it was strictly for the loot. And speed runs were cool just to see how fast you could clear the path. Even after the nerf, i was doing pretty good because of the dungeon recipes, but after a couple weeks it was impossible to get a team together capable of a speed run or even a decent run. They basically shut off one of my favorite parts of the game, and i can’t be the only one…

Ensign.2189:

R O C.6574:

I assume you mean there are too many un-quantifiable contributions to calculate an accurate personal score. Such as?

Even quantifying what you’d think is easy to quantify, properly, is hard.

Two players finish off an opponent on an otherwise empty cap, leaving two players on a neutral point. Who stays and who leaves? How do you score that effectively and automatically? How do you set the contribution to not have perverse incentives?

I see where you are going and you have a good point. Obviously the person who stays to cap should get the points, but if there are pips at stake, they might both stay and split the points, which in turn would encourage bad play…

Maybe a team MVP is the way to go…

It would be nice to have some sort of reward for individual play, i think it would definitely help with AFKer’s

Obindo.6802:

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peeterske.9134:

Obindo.6802:

This is why I avoid forums, mainly imbeciles

I mean a forum is supposed to be used to talk about stuff and give advice and get advice and stuff like that. share information. so no, not mainly imbeciles here.

Hence the implication in question

What does that even mean?

Omgz! You’re such a bad reader! LOLOL ECKS DEE

Whatever dude. You haven’t contributed anything to this thread except troll humor, and even that is a little lacking. Did you care to give your opinion on the actual subject or do you just keep coming back to check your troll bait? You know which one

As far as your duel, the timing is pretty suspicious when the other guy got kicked. Is that how you keep your winning record?

What subject? What winning record? I still wonder how I can bann someone when I don’t own the server

I don’t know if you banned him or not. It very well could have been one of your guildies. I don’t care. It’s just funny.

We already know your reading comprehension is less than adequate so it’s no surprise that you don’t know what the subject of this thread is.

My reading comprehension is more than adequate and I already answered to the only subject you “presented”. If you refer to something else that others came up throughout the thread I did not read it for I had no reason to.

Also to say “whatever” and “you troll” is merely a last resort to disparage by indignify what I say during inability to confront. I don’t want to continue repeating myself responding to feigned statements and idiotic ad hominems like that ‘I don’t know how to spell’ cuz I said ‘donno’. But if it makes you feel better or gives you attention you never got elsewhere then go for it.

…Yawn…

Sure bro… Sure…

Keep coming back for that tasty troll bait.

throws bag of attention

Thanks!

How much does this sell for on Trading Post??

Can i get a Gift of Fortune instead??

I think you can buy some rationality with it.

LOL

Infracted again.

Seriously, for the last time: I started this thread because I wanted to share my thought on personal score. Which is that a high personal score does not equal good play. Your first response indicated that you misunderstood what I was trying to say and was also insulting my understanding of PVP. When I tried to clarify, you got hung up on my joke about your spelling and completely disregarded my attempt to explain the post. Your responses since have been nothing but trolling and you haven’t made the slightest effort to add any value to the actual topic. I continue to respond to you out of amused boredom, but I’ve already gotten 2 infraction points so I won’t be able to tell you how i actually feel. Too bad Anet wants a PG-13 forum…

Please re-read everything again for you must’ve either missed everything, just intentionally disregard everything to convince yourself of a feigned situation that caters to your “pride” or to just make you feel better and get attention you didn’t get elsewhere.

I’m trolling because I do not cater to you and your pride? Right? That’s how it works aye? Once again:
“Also to say “whatever” and “you troll” is merely a last resort to disparage by indignify what I say during inability to confront. I don’t want to continue repeating myself responding to feigned statements and idiotic ad hominems like that ‘I don’t know how to spell’ cuz I said ‘donno’. But if it makes you feel better or gives you attention you never got elsewhere then go for it.”
Yet you bring up the same thing that’s been adressed over and over, seeking conflict

Feel free to rage in in-game mail then, but don’t be upset when I don’t care

So you don’t see how your original post in this thread was insulting my knowledge of PVP? And you don’t see that you misunderstood what i said?

“My Favorite Thing – When the other team’s lowest scoring player has more points then our top scoring player, and we still win the match XD”

Do you really not see what i’m trying to say? Like i said, your reading comprehension needs work and that’s no “ad hominem.”

The devs turned this into a “what could we do to make it better” thread. And i think there’s been some good discussion. My original thought was simply stating that sometimes i win matches where the other team has a much higher personal score and that’s my favorite thing…

GG

Ensign.2189:

R O C.6574:

I would think that if the scoring is accurate it should follow that some sort of ladder reward would be warranted.

Sure, but I think you should take as a given that personal score will not be accurate, so you should just stop there – there’s no reason to tie personal score to anything in the outcome of the match, most of all rating or pips.

I assume you mean there are too many un-quantifiable contributions to calculate an accurate personal score. Such as?

Rising Dusk.2408:

Fractals are intended to be the end-game 5-man content that ANet is supporting going forward. They’re not going to suddenly start supporting dungeons and fractals, as there just isn’t the ROI for it to be worth it.

ROI? The dungeons were always very active until they nerfed the rewards. There was a good full year where all i did was PVP and dungeon runs.

It sucks because i have 2 different dungeon recipes (Plague & Bloodstone Fragment), but it just takes too long to get a PUG together and finding a team to run Arah that doesn’t wipe every 2 minutes is getting harder and harder…

Obindo.6802:

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peeterske.9134:

Obindo.6802:

This is why I avoid forums, mainly imbeciles

I mean a forum is supposed to be used to talk about stuff and give advice and get advice and stuff like that. share information. so no, not mainly imbeciles here.

Hence the implication in question

What does that even mean?

Omgz! You’re such a bad reader! LOLOL ECKS DEE

Whatever dude. You haven’t contributed anything to this thread except troll humor, and even that is a little lacking. Did you care to give your opinion on the actual subject or do you just keep coming back to check your troll bait? You know which one

As far as your duel, the timing is pretty suspicious when the other guy got kicked. Is that how you keep your winning record?

What subject? What winning record? I still wonder how I can bann someone when I don’t own the server

I don’t know if you banned him or not. It very well could have been one of your guildies. I don’t care. It’s just funny.

We already know your reading comprehension is less than adequate so it’s no surprise that you don’t know what the subject of this thread is.

My reading comprehension is more than adequate and I already answered to the only subject you “presented”. If you refer to something else that others came up throughout the thread I did not read it for I had no reason to.

Also to say “whatever” and “you troll” is merely a last resort to disparage by indignify what I say during inability to confront. I don’t want to continue repeating myself responding to feigned statements and idiotic ad hominems like that ‘I don’t know how to spell’ cuz I said ‘donno’. But if it makes you feel better or gives you attention you never got elsewhere then go for it.

…Yawn…

Sure bro… Sure…

Keep coming back for that tasty troll bait.

throws bag of attention

Thanks!

How much does this sell for on Trading Post??

Can i get a Gift of Fortune instead??

I think you can buy some rationality with it.

LOL

Infracted again.

Seriously, for the last time: I started this thread because I wanted to share my thought on personal score. Which is that a high personal score does not equal good play. Your first response indicated that you misunderstood what I was trying to say and was also insulting my understanding of PVP. When I tried to clarify, you got hung up on my joke about your spelling and completely disregarded my attempt to explain the post. Your responses since have been nothing but trolling and you haven’t made the slightest effort to add any value to the actual topic. I continue to respond to you out of amused boredom, but I’ve already gotten 2 infraction points so I won’t be able to tell you how i actually feel. Too bad Anet wants a PG-13 forum…

I don’t want to spend an hour getting ready to do a raid, then another 2+ hrs actually running the raid. Can’t the dungeons get a little attention?

Obindo.6802:

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peeterske.9134:

Obindo.6802:

This is why I avoid forums, mainly imbeciles

I mean a forum is supposed to be used to talk about stuff and give advice and get advice and stuff like that. share information. so no, not mainly imbeciles here.

Hence the implication in question

What does that even mean?

Omgz! You’re such a bad reader! LOLOL ECKS DEE

Whatever dude. You haven’t contributed anything to this thread except troll humor, and even that is a little lacking. Did you care to give your opinion on the actual subject or do you just keep coming back to check your troll bait? You know which one

As far as your duel, the timing is pretty suspicious when the other guy got kicked. Is that how you keep your winning record?

What subject? What winning record? I still wonder how I can bann someone when I don’t own the server

I don’t know if you banned him or not. It very well could have been one of your guildies. I don’t care. It’s just funny.

We already know your reading comprehension is less than adequate so it’s no surprise that you don’t know what the subject of this thread is.

My reading comprehension is more than adequate and I already answered to the only subject you “presented”. If you refer to something else that others came up throughout the thread I did not read it for I had no reason to.

Also to say “whatever” and “you troll” is merely a last resort to disparage by indignify what I say during inability to confront. I don’t want to continue repeating myself responding to feigned statements and idiotic ad hominems like that ‘I don’t know how to spell’ cuz I said ‘donno’. But if it makes you feel better or gives you attention you never got elsewhere then go for it.

…Yawn…

Sure bro… Sure…

Keep coming back for that tasty troll bait.

throws bag of attention

Thanks!

How much does this sell for on Trading Post??

Can i get a Gift of Fortune instead??

Obindo.6802:

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Obindo.6802:

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peeterske.9134:

Obindo.6802:

This is why I avoid forums, mainly imbeciles

I mean a forum is supposed to be used to talk about stuff and give advice and get advice and stuff like that. share information. so no, not mainly imbeciles here.

Hence the implication in question

What does that even mean?

Omgz! You’re such a bad reader! LOLOL ECKS DEE

Whatever dude. You haven’t contributed anything to this thread except troll humor, and even that is a little lacking. Did you care to give your opinion on the actual subject or do you just keep coming back to check your troll bait? You know which one

As far as your duel, the timing is pretty suspicious when the other guy got kicked. Is that how you keep your winning record?

What subject? What winning record? I still wonder how I can bann someone when I don’t own the server

I don’t know if you banned him or not. It very well could have been one of your guildies. I don’t care. It’s just funny.

We already know your reading comprehension is less than adequate so it’s no surprise that you don’t know what the subject of this thread is.

My reading comprehension is more than adequate and I already answered to the only subject you “presented”. If you refer to something else that others came up throughout the thread I did not read it for I had no reason to.

Also to say “whatever” and “you troll” is merely a last resort to disparage by indignify what I say during inability to confront. I don’t want to continue repeating myself responding to feigned statements and idiotic ad hominems like that ‘I don’t know how to spell’ cuz I said ‘donno’. But if it makes you feel better or gives you attention you never got elsewhere then go for it.

…Yawn…

Sure bro… Sure…

Keep coming back for that tasty troll bait.

Solstace.2514:

Josh Davis.6015:

We’ve been talking about personal score a bit. I’m personally of the opinion that it isn’t representative of a player’s effort in a given match, and it also can be incredibly misleading and potentially lead to bad gameplay habits (5-capping home).

If you were to redesign personal score, what would you do? Does it track different types of stats? Would you want your personal stats displayed to other players?

Hard to say. I frequently will sit and defend a point during s match. Often times a thief or other mobile class will come and try to recap. I successfully defend point and prevent recap but they run off before I can down them. So essentially you get no credit for helping your team win match.

Sounds like ele in S3. I think defending capped points should be an add for sure. How are the points awarded for Object Defender currently?

Obindo.6802:

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peeterske.9134:

Obindo.6802:

This is why I avoid forums, mainly imbeciles

I mean a forum is supposed to be used to talk about stuff and give advice and get advice and stuff like that. share information. so no, not mainly imbeciles here.

Hence the implication in question

What does that even mean?

Omgz! You’re such a bad reader! LOLOL ECKS DEE

Whatever dude. You haven’t contributed anything to this thread except troll humor, and even that is a little lacking. Did you care to give your opinion on the actual subject or do you just keep coming back to check your troll bait? You know which one

As far as your duel, the timing is pretty suspicious when the other guy got kicked. Is that how you keep your winning record?

What subject? What winning record? I still wonder how I can bann someone when I don’t own the server

I don’t know if you banned him or not. It very well could have been one of your guildies. I don’t care. It’s just funny.

We already know your reading comprehension is less than adequate so it’s no surprise that you don’t know what the subject of this thread is.

shion.2084:

So on a different thread Josh had asked for thoughts on improving personal score.

I guess in essence the score should reflect your overall meaningful contribution to winning the match.

A given action is contextually relatively good or bad, so I would argue for things like situational bonuses.

So some thoughts on situational rewards:

1) Capping a point with no enemies having died in the vicinity within the last 12 seconds divides the reward by the number of players capping. (a penalty is a touch harsh).

2) Each second beyond 10 you hold a point from being capped, or neutralized, and have more enemies in the vicinity than allies, you are rewarded.

3) Each second beyond 10 a player is on an enemy capped point, with no allies in range and 2 or more enemies, they player is rewarded some points (for keeping them tied up).

4) Enemy Beast kills when your team has killed their beast (ie. stealing a beast when you didn’t have yours stolen) and you either have 2 caps, or are tied for caps, gets a reward.

5) Killing an enemy and capping point with no allies in range, when you own at least one other point, or noone owns either of the other two.

Quantifying situational rewards is the key to accurate personal score. Splitting points for stomps and caps is also key. You should get less points for a 2v1 stomp than a 1v1 or 1v2 stomp

Obindo.6802:

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peeterske.9134:

Obindo.6802:

This is why I avoid forums, mainly imbeciles

I mean a forum is supposed to be used to talk about stuff and give advice and get advice and stuff like that. share information. so no, not mainly imbeciles here.

Hence the implication in question

What does that even mean?

Omgz! You’re such a bad reader! LOLOL ECKS DEE

Whatever dude. You haven’t contributed anything to this thread except troll humor, and even that is a little lacking. Did you care to give your opinion on the actual subject or do you just keep coming back to check your troll bait? You know which one

As far as your duel, the timing is pretty suspicious when the other guy got kicked. Is that how you keep your winning record?

Malediktus.3740:

R O C.6574:

What about:

“I Lost All My Friends and My Family is Worried About the Amount of Time I Play Guild Wars 2”

or maybe

“Legendary Time Waster”

or

“My Life’s Accomplishments are Electrons in Anet’s Server”

You should be careful with those asumptions. Some people only needed ~100 matches per season.
Also wasting time is impossible if there is no meaning to life or even existance of life is not true. We are all just organic machines. We consist of electrons, protons and other particles just as dead matter and Anets servers.

If you got to Legendary in 100 matches, I tip my hat to you. If you played over 500 per season, these titles are for you.

As far as not wasting time, that’s debatable.

Fine you want real one:

“The Professional”

paste a link to the Vid

What about:

“I Lost All My Friends and My Family is Worried About the Amount of Time I Play Guild Wars 2”

or maybe

“Legendary Time Waster”

or

“My Life’s Accomplishments are Electrons in Anet’s Server”

Ross Biddle.2367:

Ross Biddle.2367:

mrauls.6519:

Every time I see 1m+ damage from any profession, it makes me think that the fight’s weren’t that “good”… I rarely hit 500k+ in some wins.

If you end the fight quickly, there’s no need for an absurd amount of overall damage done

I have things like under 250k worth of damage dealt and 16 kills XD with the win.

20 kills, under 200k condi on a rabid ammy XD

Is that a hybrid build? Is the direct damage coming from shatters?

Cynz.9437:

I think dmg indicators are silly. Obviously classes with Aoe gonna deal more dmg, especially if enemy has pets to soak it and fights are long. As thief i have quite low dmg sum on average because i don’t attack much, but when i attack someone usually goes down.

Quality > quantity.

I’ve had over 1 million dmg on my guard and only 5 kills one time. That’s what happens when you go against a team w/ 5 bunkers…

Ensign.2189:

It could be useful to update the player score / participation system, as long as it doesn’t have any impact on either Glicko or pips gained or lost from the outcome of the match. You would have to do a very, very good job of specifying personal score to make adding it to either of those systems value positive – a much better job than anyone has ever done in any game.

I would think that if the scoring is accurate it should follow that some sort of ladder reward would be warranted. Something like top score on the losing side doesn’t lose a pip. That would keep people pushing to the end of the match. Even if the scoring isn’t perfect, which it won’t ever be, it would be close enough.

Everyone keeps talking about “high level” strategies that can’t be quantified in a scoring system. IDK… Creating a diversion to occupy 2 or 3 enemies off point when you are up on caps is good, but the plays that allowed that sort of positioning on the map are most likely quantifiable in a scoring system.

Let’s not make the exception the rule here. If you can capture 80% of the strategic plays i’d say we’re doing pretty good.

If you are running around letting noobs chase you off point all match, i’d say don’t expect a high personal score. Typically, in my experience, these plays tend to happen when you are already winning.

Obindo.6802:

peeterske.9134:

Obindo.6802:

This is why I avoid forums, mainly imbeciles

I mean a forum is supposed to be used to talk about stuff and give advice and get advice and stuff like that. share information. so no, not mainly imbeciles here.

Hence the implication in question

@Obindo: Someone has you on youtube throwing a tantrum!! Why Kick/Banish someone that beat you on a duel server. I guess you are a sore loser and a bad reader. LOLOL

Oh yeah, which implication is in question?

fishball.7204:

It also doesn’t account for holding 2+ players near their home despite not really doing much which helps the team with a 4v3 advantage. I mean I’d be willing to try any system that encourages good play but there’s always a few situational or higher level strategies that the point system won’t be able to account for.

Couldn’t the system detect which skimishes are outnumbered and which outnumbered matches have strategic significance?

Malediktus.3740:

Every game mode should have exclusives to make those game modes not obsolete. Without exclusives people take the road of least resistance and makes other game modes played less.

R O C.6574:

Am I the only one that thinks the fractal wings are like a million times cooler looking then the pvp wings?

I reskinned my Ad Infinitum to The Ascension because I think the fractal backpack looks ugly.

Ok so it’s a matter of taste…

Faux Play.6104:

As far as points, I would try to make it as close to in game point distribution as possible. I think it is just as important to have negative points as positive ones. Have something similar to +/- for hockey.

==Contributes to individual score:====

Points for things not related to capturing a node:

• Kills: +5 for a kill or rez, -5 for a death.
• Monsters: +25 for last tick, -25 for engaging and not getting last tick. Counts as off point.
• Lord Kill 150. Lord save? (lord was less than 50% health, you defended it, and it was alive at the end of the match). Counts as off point
• Treb. Counts as fighting on a point if you are damaging opponents contesting a point.

On/Near point:

• Time in combat near your capped node. 1 point per second your team holds the node. -1 point per tick you lose.
• Time in combat near a neutral node. 1 tick per second the node stays neutral plus: 1 point per tick you advance the capture. -1 point per tick you concede to the other team.
• Time in combat near a hostile node. -1 point per second the other team holds its capture status. 1 point per tick you subtract from the opponents. —being locked in an endless stalemate at a node your team doesn’t control isn’t helping them.
• Uncontested neutralizing/capping of a node. Initial node capture of the game no points. 1 point per tick you advance the node in your team’s favor after the initial capture.

Off point:

• If team has less caps than the opponent, -(cap differential) per second. —if your team is behind you should be doing something about it

==Other non-scoring stats=====

• Downed to finished ratio. How many players you downed vs. how many got finished.
• Damage per kill and your death. This would give an indication about how efficient you are at finishing players, and how efficient they are at finishing you.
• Historical team point differential. –need to filter out matches where there was a DC on either team.

Josh Davis.6015:

We’ve been talking about personal score a bit. I’m personally of the opinion that it isn’t representative of a player’s effort in a given match, and it also can be incredibly misleading and potentially lead to bad gameplay habits (5-capping home).

If you were to redesign personal score, what would you do? Does it track different types of stats? Would you want your personal stats displayed to other players?

With this unforgiving scoring method, you’d end up with alot of people having 0 score. But it might give a wake-up call to some like “you’re not playing the game right”

I think I understand what you mean about off-point. It’s a negative impact if you have less caps, but if you have more caps, it’s a positive to engage off-point because the opponent is not able to decap

Am I the only one that thinks the fractal wings are like a million times cooler looking then the pvp wings?

I don’t think pvp is the worthy cause he’s talking about, and all the critics here are the ones in the arena lol

FYI Franklin Roosevelt was the one in the wheelchair. Teddy was a hunter

The hardest part is The Gift of Fortune….

Some thieves are easy kills others kill you before you know where they are…

Fluffball.8307:

R O C.6574:

Maybe there should be a 3 game series for ranked

Half an hour of a team getting slaughtered while 1 of their members calls everyone kittens while sitting in spawn? Ya not going to happen. It’s a good day when no one rage quits after like 60 seconds.

Dam afker’s ruin everything

I feel the same way. Why can’t ranked roll like hot join …

Maybe there should be a 3 game series for ranked

Morte de Angelis.7986:

…Some people are just in a league way to high for there skill level and/or just troll matches because reasons…

I always tell my guildies not to get way too high when they’re in a league, but do they listen?

Of course not :p

It’s not illustrious legend?