Guild Wars 2

Condi Ranger (or more accurately Condi Druid) is fine. I run Axe/Torch and Sword/Dagger. Lots of bleeds, poisons, and burns. I also run spike trap, vipers nest, and entangle. More bleeds and poisons. Why aren’t you running druid?

Nope. I think the lowest W/L ratio that will allow you to climb is 43%, but you need most of you wins back to back to get the bonus pip and your loses need to be 3 in a row to get the comeback pip bonus. Even with a 50% W/L you can get stuck if you’re going W-L-W-L. It’s all about how you streak.

sanctuary.1068:

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sanctuary.1068:

Found the image how mmr works! Removed my text since it wasnt 100% correct. You can gain mmr points even if you lose, check the image below. Mmr isnt as easy as win/lose.

is that table still current? i thought that was S1

mmr and matchmaking are two different things.

I think this was the table for pips in season 1

sanctuary.1068:

R O C.6574:

sanctuary.1068:

Found the image how mmr works! Removed my text since it wasnt 100% correct. You can gain mmr points even if you lose, check the image below. Mmr isnt as easy as win/lose.

is that table still current? i thought that was S1

mmr and matchmaking are two different things.

Hmm. So in S2 when everyone was crying about their tanked MMR because they were getting killed by better players, they’re MMR actually wasn’t being impacted because the system expected them to lose?

Why? I get my daily in one match most the time. I like that.

sanctuary.1068:

Found the image how mmr works! Removed my text since it wasnt 100% correct. You can gain mmr points even if you lose, check the image below. Mmr isnt as easy as win/lose.

is that table still current? i thought that was S1

If you need instructions on how to win watch YouTube

So my fix was as follows:

Switch max frame rate to 30
Run 64-bit client
Switch graphics to best performance.

It’s a lame fix, but at least the controls are responsive now

If after no discussion on the opening play (clue #1 this might be a bad match), I find myself alone on mid…

Vicky.4563:

How to know if you have a halfway decent team?

Nobody says “Hi everyone!” at the start.

Nobody types “GLHF” into the mapchat before the match starts.

Nobody says “Just focus on 2 points, don’t push far!”

Nobody is jumping around the spawn area.

Nobody is running DH.

If anyone does any of the above during the start of the match, I have a 90% chance of losing.

What’s wrong with jumping around the spawn area?

Do you get delays on skill activation? That’s when i won’t play. Sometimes the lag will cause my skills to activate a full 2 seconds late. In this game that’s the difference between killing and getting killed.

If you have a strategy on how to play around that, i’d love to hear it.

What are these ranks you speak of? Divisions? Must be since you have to be rank 20 to even play in a ranked arena. If you’re talking about divisions, it looks at pip range more than actual division. I belive the pip range increases the longer you are in queue. If you are getting this matchup during peak hours, that might indicate a premade with different divisions

Fipmip.7219:

Crowley.8761:

Fipmip.7219:

Crowley.8761:

How about making the entire game turn based with rock/paper/scissors/lizard/spock as to who does the next action?

oh my god.

that’s it.

everyone, the problem is solved. This man, right here, has the answer to all our problems. We need only support his motion and guild wars 2 can become the perfect game.

Thank you my dear, I also suggest always including a third player as a refereee on every PvP battle, and this person would then overrule the rock/paper/scissors/lizard/spock winner and decide the fairest outcome of every battle based on a completely objective evaluation of individual skill through viewing the players chat and browser history.

You know, who even needs the rock/paper/scissors/lizard/spock? let us simply have the two players argue as to who would win between a rock and a lizard! There could be whole metabuilds based around constructing the perfect argument! Entire communities would form around the two sides! The forums would be filled with not vitrol about the state of this ability or that, but instead enlightened debate about the finer points of abstracts concepts behind the idea of the rock and the idea of the lizard! We can redefine the face of modern MMORPG PVP with this daring and bold strategy that will take the face of gaming as an entirely new genre.

Not a new genre. Isn’t this how a D&D / Pathfinder game is played :p

infinitenoah.8296:

Maybe he was just tired? Or perhaps his little brother kept annoying him, so he was unable to concentrate? It could be a lot of reasons.

Or maybe his little brother was playing his account. Lol

That’s the worst. When a teammate keeps dying and they say “OMG lagging so bad.” Like that’s supposed to make it better. I’m glad it’s not because you are a pvptard, but i’m still gonna lose a pip because they decided to go cheap on Internet service.

@OP

My favorite unranked match. Whole lot of evading and general havoc:

…but when i do, i don’t play pvp

MadVisions.4529:

Taobella.6597:

To be honest i think both skills are still are fine pulmonary impact might still be slightly under power. only reason it seem so powerful in this meta is because anet removed all the bunker amulet which is why it feel so powerful.

Pulmonary impact counter is to people who have protection. thief will not win a fight if they keep time on that.

basilisk venom just forces you to slightly stagger your blocks nothing overpowered.

both moves are single target they should be powerful.

yeah fighting a nerco out shroud he get face rolled hard to intrup moves but once he in shroud nerco face roll thief both sides of the fight are fair just knowing how to fight what you are up against.

Describing the problem from d/p thief perspective: Why did impact and HoT overall dumb down thief gameplay?

To describe why Impact is broken by design:

Before HoT, you had to meenage Initiative in many aspects. You had to consider when you use initiative for what purposes. You did use it for offense, defense and utility example: hearthseeker, shadowshot(blind is util too if u use it wisely) for offense, 5->2 to defense, 5->cluster and headshot for utility etc…
If you consumed too much for certain purposes in this balance you had less for the others. If you spared initiative to interrupt necro heal or warrior banner which you should, then you casted less stealth or shadowshot etc. Counting on opponents skills defined how you meenage your bar.
Impacting in itself is changing thief gameplay. It’s damage matches frontstab or shadowshot critical hit damage and is unevadable, unblockable, unblindable and unclensable. It is a decent damage boost on your steal if landed properely and gives direct damage to utilitys with CC, which are OK to a certain degree (still think that it’s stupid with venom). To come to the point lets look at how it effects the init meenagement.

Headshot was before HoT a powerful tool to control your opponents if applyed correctly, but you had to consider what you want to interrupt to have enough initiative to apply enough damage pressure. I hope you see that this trait removes this aspect from the game entirely couse the damage of an interrupt is higher than the average noncrit-crit damage on all your weapon abilitys. This opens space to the question: why wouldn’t i just interrupt every skill i can and deal more damage than usually. Yes you should! You should even interrupt autohits for damage couse it’s matematically higher than any other combinations (not considering inback-stab or precast+steal burst). Not to meantion that interrupting the enemy can already f@@@ theyr plans over.

HoT offers even more dumb stuff. Now that i explayned how not using Headshot for damage is not optimal they introduce a massive Autohit damage buff. This leaves you with Good amount of pressure even if you spammed all your init. Fair enough you’d say… well not that intelligent that this damage buff was so high that meta moved to rage sigil autohitting… This leaves you with the following: biggest damage is impactHeadshot and if you can’t do that you get away with simply autohitting.
(WARNING!!! BEFORE SOME OVERANXIOUS CYNZ WANTS TO COMMENT: i do not say with this that you should not shadowshot, 5->2 or hearthseeker according to a situation! they are awesome and got theyr place!)

There are 2 more HoT(daredev) additions that changed thief roles but according to the devs this was by design and this is not necessarely bad but i want to mention it here couse it is a part of powercreeping the d/p.
This is the evasiveness that comes with Daredevil.
First, the not that bad things are the dodges that are comming with DD where the motto of sword-acro builds before the expansion. You needed both of these to succeed with an evasive-themed build. I welcome D/P in this family couse i support evasion based gameplay over stealth camping \o/. You have to admit though that this traitline offers TOO much dodges. just too much. There is little difference in your evasiveness depending on your main weapon.
The worse part are the “ELITE” dodges. 2 of them are staight up broken on d/p

1. Dash offers perma swiftness. well yep this is already really good. your mobility is brutal with this trait, well worthy of a grandmaster. The thing is i’d stop this trait right here. but it removes snares with no icd. Worst part is that it removes immob. There is no need for evading abilitys with immob. you dont need to know what applyes immob. you just dodge like you normally would and get away. This renders an incredibly amount of skill from the game. Immob wasn’t thorwn around in the golden days of befor-juny and landing immobs was a way to stop thieves momentum. Getting immob isnt “death”, thief had many cards to play, headshot or blind the incomming burst, switchin to sb->#3 or #5 or both, clensing it with signet, etc. Now you don’t even have to think
2. Bound. At the pace you can spam evades with DD the damage buff is on you most of the time. 10% damage is the average of what executioner offers, which is a GM trait. If you land 1 damage proc from it to lets say only 1 target every 10sec(natural regen time of a dodge but in reality you can dodge every ~4 sec in permanent successions) for ~3k dmg. In that period of time you deal ~20k damage to that person. Assuming this, the end resoult is that Bound gave you ridiculous sum of ~25% damage boost. I’d stop here in development but Bound makes applying initial #5&leap stealth uninterruptable. Yep that’s bad design couse it leaves no counterplay. So hmm it’s prty kitten strong too.

I don’t want to go further. I hope you get my point. Revievs like this could be done for the majotity of professions, highlighting the flaws in Elite Spec development. I’d leave the rest for other people or for another day…

So what you are saying is thief is as easy to play as the rest of the classes now?

@OP
So it’s the Pulmonary Impact on interrupt trait that has you crying? And Basilisk Venom is OP because it’s unblockable? BS It’s not guarantied to interrupt everytime

Evade, invuln and blind will still cause Basilisk Venom and the proc to fail correct? So what. I don’t run that trait, maybe i should start. The way you cry about it, it must be good. I though escapists absolution was a good trait, but apparently real thieves don’t run it. Thanks for the tip. I will be impacting your pulmonary from now on

@OP
It’s prob not Basilisk Venom that you hate. 9/10 I activate spider and skale venom along with basilisk all at the same time. That’s where the knalrly burst comes from, and of COURSE i’m running venomous aura. I always pop all 3 right before the gate opens, then by the time i get to mid, my venoms are almost off cd. So 10 seconds into the team fight, I pop them again. What about jade wind? That’s a 3 second aoe petrify. It’s not any more broken than any other condi build.

I think you’re just mad that thief isn’t trash tier anymore.

You forgot about the git gud posts rubbing success in the face of the complainers

Weird. I never seem to have a queue longer than 5 minutes

I’m sure most of you already know this, but for those that don’t, here is a link that explains the difference:

http://www.howtogeek.com/142193/htg-explains-why-lag-and-low-fps-arent-the-same-thing/

It’s interesting that all the screen shots are GW2…

Asrat.2645:

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Amineo.8951:

DH is still good against Thieves which are being picked much more than Revenant this season, so I wouldn’t say it’s bad.

A thief using dash and sig of agility has no problem stomping DH in this meta

Yes they do.
Well. if the dragon hunter is capable of using healing skills that is.

Condi thief with 3 venoms and sig of agility, say good night DH

I won a match with 3 thieves on my team. Thief is back motherkitteners

Amineo.8951:

DH is still good against Thieves which are being picked much more than Revenant this season, so I wouldn’t say it’s bad.

A thief using dash and sig of agility has no problem stomping DH in this meta

Does DH have a good condi build?

Yeah i get this too. It kills me because i’ll get a 1-2 second delay on skill activation which kittens up any chance of proper skill timing.

DH is fun, need like a retaliation burn build

What’s the deal with that?

bumpity bump get em all front page

I I.7359:

Played 6 matches -

-win
-loss
-loss
-win
-loss (kittening DC’d before match -DC’d 2nd time while trying to log in- got back in when we were down 200 points – still got 8min dishonor for “deserting”)
-win

At least i ended with a pip this time. I’m thinking of only playing 1 match a day and seeing how that goes…

that’s the original post.
gl with your reading skills and gameplay skills…
bye

wow. so… drugs er bad m’kay

Vorenu.2638:

feels the same to me, 70% of the time the other team has a 2man premade and full pug on my side…

That ruby player really messed you guys up :P

Played 5 matches:

win
win
win
loss
loss – 500-477 we had one pvptard…

Yay finally crossed a tier

Seemed like my wife’s netflix streaming bogged down the internet speed. After my 3rd win is netflix started streaming, after that i started getting a 1-2 second delay from pressing a skill and the skill actually activating. My biggest enemy is lag

trunks.5249:

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trunks.5249:

Razor.9872:

I’ve had quite a few enemies tell me my condi trap Ranger (not Druid) build is AIDS. With the condi spike it outputs, I think it would be more accurate to say it gives people AIDS.

i run a druid trapper i almost killed a guard with just the spike trap

Can you share the build. I’ve been disappointed with my condition output on the condi druid i’ve been working on

here you go http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRAnf8YnUqAlrgdrAWsCUtgFMBrZZNACAOJuFwjDum+TLqloywA-TphAwAAOBAL3fYyDAgcZgOHBgCHEAA i like the condi damage and the Survivability on that build . however if you do not care if you live long and you want a bigger boost use rune of the krait and wanderers amulet with it

Totally worth the 10g for wanderer’s amulet

trunks.5249:

Razor.9872:

I’ve had quite a few enemies tell me my condi trap Ranger (not Druid) build is AIDS. With the condi spike it outputs, I think it would be more accurate to say it gives people AIDS.

i run a druid trapper i almost killed a guard with just the spike trap

Can you share the build. I’ve been disappointed with my condition output on the condi druid i’ve been working on

Venom share thief

suffish.4150:

I usually get raged at when I play terribly rather than when i beat people in a 1v1, but when on my Mesmer I have been told I should be ‘ashamed to play that class’ which I though was very funny. When I moa someone and still fail to kill them (That happens more than it should do for me, lol) a lot of the time they laugh at me and tell me I am a terrible player for not even winning the fight with an extremely OP skill.
Sometimes, I get someone who is really angry at me and says all sorts of insults to me for ages after a match is finished. To these people I usually act extremely apologetic and say how truly, sincerely sorry I am that I was put in their match. Usually they just stay angry though, but I find acting all apologetic very funny.

Occasionally, if someone is extremely angry at me for beating them/playing bad I just send them gold without saying anything else. One time I sent a random guy who I had never seen before 250 gold just because he was insulting me. The funniest part is that he SENT BACK 250 gold because he ‘wants me to play well, not send him gold if I play bad’!

I’ll rage at you for 250 gold-

“Stupid OP loser mesmer!”
“Go chase purple butterflies! You suck so bad that’s why you have to play OP $h|tty class! Die in a fire! I’ll continuum split your face broken OP motherfoocker!!!”

Was that good?

bLind.6278:

ANet doesn’t care about the teams being balanced in spvp. Literally not an ounce. They pay lip-service to it, but it’s entirely lies. There is literally no form of balance between teams. They just put 10 players onto a server and say have fun.

No other excuse for the kittening absolute joke that this game is.

Stop your negative hate speech. If you think it’s a joke, don’t play. It doesn’t sound like you’re having fun. It’s a game, and games are only fun if you win.

I agree.

I do have a suggestion: allow us the option to re-que with players on our team w/o making a party. I don’t always want to get into a party, but if i get on a decent team i’d like to get some team momentum.

sounds like a bug

Please for the love of God can you people stop acting like the sky is falling every second of the guildwars day. I don’t want to say L2P, but maybe your losing because your doing it wrong. I know it’s hard to admit you have a problem, but seriously if you have big losing streaks this season i think it’s your mouse/key skills. Or maybe you should think about going condi…

^^
Sound like salt envy.

Played 6 matches -

-win
-loss
-loss
-win
-loss (kittening DC’d before match -DC’d 2nd time while trying to log in- got back in when we were down 200 points – still got 8min dishonor for “deserting”)
-win

At least i ended with a pip this time. I’m thinking of only playing 1 match a day and seeing how that goes…

I told one team i had that they suck. Because they did.

I get people telling me what to do,

“go here thief”
“go there thief”
“WHY ARE YOU GOING FAR STUPID THIEF”
“RE-ROLL @SS HOLE”
“Why didn’t you come and revive me on the other side of the map useless thief”
“Blah Blah Blah”

Can i just say, no need to tell a 2nd or 3rd thief to reroll this season. We are just fine.
I’ll see another thief on my team and i’m like “cool we are gonna gank the kitten out of these kittens.” Then they re-roll like they have beaten wife syndrome. It’s sad.

Funny, when I pop my venoms and pew pew with my double pistols on my condi thief, motherkitteners are downed before I get into melee range.

HeadCrowned.6834:

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I’m fine with less condi build diversity. Every OP build is a condi build

You don’t really got the point. A certain condi build could be OP (like mesmer with mercenary), but that does not mean that every other class should not be able to run a condi build.

There currently is no hard counter for condi. Resistance blah blah blah not effective. Rev’s access to resistance sucks all your upkeep.

Not saying it isn’t fun to watch my opponent’s HP drop to 0 as i hide in stealth and wait for the bleeds and poison to kill them, but after playing power builds and condi builds, condi is broken as kitten. If you don’t like the idea of a hard counter to condi, then maybe we should get rid of all the hard counters to Power.

HeadCrowned.6834:

No I think resistance in itself is too powerful. It would be better to make it for example reduce incomming condition damage by 50%. A boon that could totally annihilate any condi build without boonstrip is just a misplaced boon. It also forces you to take a condi class that has access to boonstrip, so mesmer or necro. This reduces build diversity, while we actually want more build diversity.

I’m fine with less condi build diversity. Every OP build is a condi build

Nausicca.6038:

6 matches, 6 loss. That was a great first day indeed. But I’m not mad, I’ll just try again this evening.

We both ended up with the same number of pips… 0

Played six matches – win loss win loss win loss….

fml.