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I died couple of times casting my RF while dude weas just putting condies on me like I was not invulnerable.

Mthe mystery.4615:

Masterj.4578:

Throwing my two cents in, I never write on the main forums.

Hanging up my warrior until the expansion hits because this patch ruined warrior. Adrenal health and cleansing ire are nerfed with the 1 bar of adrenaline in berserker mode. Using a burst skill is now one stack which lowers damage done and health received over time.

Mained warrior since the beginning of the game but now it’s just butchered and the only fix is not to use zerk mode.

Same. I have mained warrior from almost the beginning of GW1 and all through the 5 years of gw2 so far. And can’t stand to play it anymore due to the recent patches. I just have no words anymore. Don’t understand why ele and mes gets all the favoritism and warrior continues to get shut down. I’m this close | | to being pushed over the edge and not buy the expansion. Rev have been nerfed to kitten the past year all well and they got a decent buff to Shiro so hoprfully…holefully it will eventually happen to Warrior.

Mesmer and ele are anets babies, class developed by them as nothing seen before. They will never be nerfed like other classes, they need to be 30-40% more effective, cause you know favorism.

Firebrand will be worst in solo and group content. Maybe viable in pve, depends of mobs, if they do lots of cc than it will be bad there too.

Entenkommando.5208:

Hammer definitely shouldn’t be instant. 2 sec ranged hard cc on instant cast would be way too strong.

But its 3/4 cast time and then 1 1/4 time to actually hit ppl with attack. Its should hit 3 ppl and 1/2 cast time. Also for sword too.

They nerfed all classes cause you need to buy new expansion to be competitive.

Berserkers were annoyingly op in wvw so they nerfed them just like us guardians were annoying with lootstick and bam nerf. Play with mesmers and eles they wont get nerf anytime soon cause of favourism.

I dont know what are you talking about, ele is most powerful profession in this game in all game modes.

No guardians cant have nice things, i actually think that it needs nerf to 1 sec resistance.

Hm it looks like toilet paper flating around firebrand.

Hammer could use buff to dmg 3 ppl. its 30 sec cd per use.

Dont think so, be happy if yxou can cast one of those 3/4 skills until you are cc’ed to death cause you dont have active blocks on firebrand at all.

Bestgoch.7390:

Fivona.5061:

It is great change. Now we can have more skilled players instead of 1-1-1-1-1

That’s just silly. You will have the same 1-1-1-1-1 but with less DPS and more bunkering. In Zerg vs Zerg you just cannot go full melee guard, you need a ranged weapon, and even after this nerf staff is the only viable ranged weapon for ZvZ. Sure, in GvG there are options to dump staff completely, but not in ZvZ.

Dont mind him, he’s just ranger dude.

Pirate tag so we can pirate ship meta

Seems like someone nerfed guardian by subjective feelings against it.

Its like putting me in charge of balancing things first I would nerf:
-Thief mobility
-Reaper condition dmg
- Warrior healing and dmg
- Mesmer condi dmg
- Revenant hammer dmg by half
- Druid stealth and pet dmg by half
- Elementalis everything by half
-and leave engie alone this time cause its my 2nd char

- And finally buff guardians by 50% everything

but hey its just me, just like some balance dev.

I lost 10 fps in wvw atm…. 965BE

They could nerf from 5 to 3 ppl targeting, but this is garbage change. Guardian is in a good spot remember, firebrand will be close enough – 3/4rdian new elite spec which will suck both in pvp and wvw.

Still better than 3/4rdian coming as a new elite spec.

Yakez.7561:

Back in 2012 was expecting to play guard as main. Proper human char to relate. Never happened. Support was non existent in bers meta.

Then they released HoT with Dragonhunter. Longbow damage spec… Useless in PvE, fractals, raids.

And at least I played guardian as main in WvW. And now they nerf the main Guard weapon in WvW giving nothing in exchange, because of PvE lootstick? And lets be real WvW loot do not cover WvW expenses. And most of the time u use hammer in melee train.

Nerf then shortbow on thief then. Axe on ranger. And just remove necro from the game already.

But nerf is not over yet, firebrand is coming which is worse than core guard so expect some nerfing of DH, I would say tof nerf by 20% or increase cd of F skills by 30%.

Ive heard they are renaming guardian into 3/4rdian in next xpac, anyone heard it was true?

i never used staff cause it was bad and now its more worse. They should nerf tagging from 5 ppl to 3 and not the range. but again we are guardians we get nerf every patch so why not this.

They nerfed food which made me lose 500 power, from 2700 to 2200. Mighty blow now crits 4200 to mobs in wvw and that is like wet noodle.

And you think firebrand will be fine? haha, same thing like with staff.

Fashion Mage.3712:

Ezrael.6859:

There’s a difference between using skills selectively and pushing everything at once.

You’re a negative person and a huge whiner that jumps to massive conclusions all the time and posts personal attacks against the devs with your whiny bitter rants.

Karl didn’t even design this spec, he designed the Weaver only.

Irenio designed Firebrand, Soulbeast, Renegade and Scourge.

You’ve seen only a glimpse of the spec, we’re missing the runes, the 4th Mantra (with a winged icon) and an actual feel of the spec with proper traits and options selected.

Are you this negative about everything in life or just here? It must be utterly awful for those who have to suffer your presence and attitude every day.

Quite frankly you seem like a clueless white knight who is still trying to insist that we’ve only seen a “glimpse” of the spec despite having seen all traits and skills, and only missing a few details on some skills.

Dont argue with him, hes just insulting ppl and I dont want to lose any of my time arguing with him.

Brutaly.6257:

This is the main issue with the guardian that actually limits build diversity. The strength of valor. Imo, and i been advocating it openly the only way forward is that the community in fact demands nerfs to the meta. This would force Anet to strengthen our innate survivability and that would open up for more build diversity.

If the amount of healing from the medis some how was innate i for one would at least play 2 signets for max control build. I would also use consecrations a lot more.

The issue isnt that 5 or 6 utilities are totally bad, the issue is that medis are relatively to strong.

Well unless they give some sort of buffs to base Virtues. Like Stunbreak and 1 stack of stability on f3. That would give some other builds variety. But for every new elite and including firebrand there will always be Virtues+Valor+elite spec (plus JI and smite or purity).

Ezrael.6859:

The Mantra cast times are 0.75 / 1s. The 2.75s time is the preparation time.

12 seconds is the timer to gain a charge back.

Mantras start with 3 charges available, so you can use 3 in a row with the 3rd being more powerful, then the skill goes on cooldown until you can prepare it again.

Or you can use or or two and leave the final charge sparingly while you wait for the charges to come back.

It’s about situational play and planned skill usage, not spamming abilities.
Some of the recent Dragonhunter players who have grown accustomed to pushing all of their buttons and getting results against similar level players and PvE may find this concept difficult to grasp.

But it’s far better game play and the way all the elite specs have been designed.

Wait so how do you play DH if you dont push buttons? Clicking with mouse? Srry but whole concept of DH is to use burst combined with traps. Every class push buttons cause of their burst. Srry but in fast paced combat against some classes planning is not a smart thing to do as you might end up dead before noticing. Mantras do not have casting time they are instant, reload of skill is 1 sec after you used it. I might use only heal and that speed mantra if they give 10 sec of swiftness of every mantra usage (but I saw only 5 sec which is really low) elite mantra give 5 sec of swiftness on final which is crap and garbage, elites need to be elite better than enything else but its not more better than heal mantra).
I am seeing builds like shelter, smite codition(or purity), speed mantra or burn mantra, judges intervention, RF cause if you use something else you might die very quickly. And its the same story, we are using already same builds like before cause of survivability, so whats the point of that? Virtues+valor+anything else.

Kerivek.5740:

Yes I’ve been playing since beta and I understand that we know what we have. I can even understand people’s points when they say they see a bunch of glaring issues. With all that said…I still don’t think we can make such confident claims of the spec being totally useless without some testing.

It may well turn out to be bad…it doesn’t look great. However, claiming that it is bad as an irrefutable fact this early on is a bit much for me.

Ppl were shouting DH and traps were bad before hot, ppl tested it and it was garbage but they buffed it later cause US (not whiteknights) shouting how bad it is. Same here long cds, big casting times trash traits, no movement trait as a condi brawler, … As someone said I dont need to press buttons to see how bad this spec is. Its just look flashy with those animations but 0 usability.

phokus.8934:

Why does Guardian get shafted in the mobility department every single time?

Mesmers get 25% movement speed increase in a Chrono minor trait and now get superspeed with Mirage.

Firebrand looks good on paper attacking stationary targets (read, PvE) but I’m having an extremely hard time seeing this doing well at any level of PvP.

We need to summon Karl for an AMA and see why he didn’t include any type of movement modifier when we desperately need it more than ever.

Cause we are meant to die first in a good spot in front lines especially with Firebrand in few seconds into a fight so we can give some time for other classes to super speed away.

At least Firebrand will defend you all from Spellbreaker, hes an melee expert with so many defenses and tomes…errr died, well Scourge is here do defend you from spellbreaker…

Fashion Mage.3712:

LetoII.3782:

I’d be happy to give up Renewed Focus if we were given other mitigation options.

RF will be more necessary than ever with this spec. No RF, no Shield of Courage, and no mobility from Wings of Resolve means it’s not going to have much self-defense despite being close-ranged, besides Shelter. What Feel My Wrath offers is purely offensive, and Signet of Courage only really functions at long-range to support others. There’s no good reason to give up invulnerability for some stability from the new mantra either, because there are easier ways to get stability than giving up your elite skill.

PvP-wise, even with RF this spec looks like it’ll run on point, get focused, RF activates and runs out, and then it’ll get focused again and die. It can’t support at long-range because all of its skills including tomes are close-ranged, it can’t run away if it gets focused because it has no mobility, and it has no real self-defense so it can’t tank on point (rightfully, because it’s a dps/support spec which shouldn’t be tanking).

This. Ppl defending spec that has minimal defense due to aegis (but with unblockables its useless).

Close range condi spec with no mobility no defense and everything with 3/4 cast times, I dont know what guardian dev was thinking, pure luck of unimagination and logic, unless this spec is making 40k condi dmg in 3 sec than that can be justified but I doubt that.

As I was saying 90% of guardians cant wait to try this spec but they will be dissapointed how bad this spec really is but I cant blame them, Valor+Virtues (medi heals) were only good options from 2012 plus traveler(speed) runes while Zeal, spirit weapons, signets are siply bad. I was hoping for some movement trait so we can combine other good runes but as we can see nothing GOOD will ever happen with guardian cause of its good spot. We just need some new dev that will adress all the issues and repair it once for all.

RabbitUp.8294:

Fashion Mage.3712:

RabbitUp.8294:

Fashion Mage.3712:

RabbitUp.8294:

Lol, they are not going to give barrier to guardian until next expansion. But we will know in 2 days, though, so if I’m wrong, feel free to rub it in my face.

What’s happening in two days? There’s probably a balance update but I doubt that’s changing much (although I’m hoping it does).

They are changing core traitlines.

Sounds mildly promising. Source?

Woodenpotatoes made a video about barrier and said they are giving barrier to core ele (Earth traitline). The changes were in the server they tested the expansion on, and he also saw necro and Reaper changes.

Also, preview of warrior changes on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/6ruxy8/upcoming_warrior_strength_trait_changes_ripped/

yea ele gets everything good…anets babies.

Ill rather see instead of stupid 88 regen per sec we get 100 barrier which can stack to 3000. Or insted of retalation we get barrier. But i dont think we will get anything cause you know guardian is in a good spot.

Dont forget Tomes are not instant, they are 3/4 casting time plus 3/4 casting time of tome skills and add 10-25 cd’s of tome skills. Firebrand is all about cd’s. Too bad mob npc’s dont have so many cc’s like players in wvw and pvp so they can farm them too in pve.

LetoII.3782:

Good point.
They may well be charges, in addition to cast times, in addition to cooldowns
Lol

Dont forget is melee condi brawler without 25% movement speed, haha joke of elite spec

Saiyan.1704:

Ragnarox.9601:

Fashion Mage.3712:

I don’t understand how a spec entirely focused towards damage and support would function in close range. I just don’t understand why not make tomes full range like they used to be.

Ragnarox.9601:

Tomes are nothing but virtues shouts.

Which is funny because virtues are already basically just shouts (especially when they arbitrarily lost their 1200 range).

I would laugh my ass out when a good dh or berserker comes near firerand pop his unblockable skill and firebrand goes into f3 try to cast and dies trying to cast first spell but dies to warrior F1 in 2 sec.

Or even better deadeye pops from stealth shoots kilsshot and firebrand dies not even cast a spell.

Or even better weaver comes farting all his elements firebrand tries but fails to go into f3 and dies in painfull death by water/fire combo blast.

Or even better spellbreaker comes and destroy his f3 skill and firebrand dies well cause someone shred his tome.

….funny stuff.

This is exactly what I’m worried about…CD’s are incredibly high. We’re the new Necro in team fights. Might as well put a permanent red target on our heads now.

“But.. you have Quickness!”

• Yea.. for only 2 seconds. And choosing a concentration amulet is out of the question unless Anet releases a
  1050Condi, 1050Vita, 560Healing, 560Concetration Amulet… I just don’t see that stat combo happening.

Even IF they did.. the extra 1 1/2 second quickness increase from the amulet is not going to make a huge difference. Quickness in general is not very good… If it was, we’d be using the elite “Feel My Wrath”. I’d rather have power or precision on the amulet instead.

What I’m not looking forward to
The lower F1 burn durations / lack of hits axe gives to activate F1.
The high CD utility skills after Mantras are finalized.
The Mantra elite (who would skip over Renewed Focus?)

The 1 trick pony I’m looking forward to
F1 giving 3x burn on hit to allies.
Giving Quickness to allies will also give them our F1 activation of 3x burn stacks.(10s icd)
The improved Virtues.
Casting charged Mantras while using another ability.

I think Firebrand will be the old-style Shout LB Warrior. We’ll have some marginal damages but we’ll mainly play a support role. I do hope FB’s damage role is viable but as of now that aspect doesn’t look promising.

haha casual ppl are praising Firebrand cause it looks good on paper(just look at that stream that some casual streamer recorded (didnt record properly and was downvoted so hard), if that type of casuals play guardians I am scared of its future – standing around doing nothing pressing random attack like bots).
But in reality this will happen:

Spellbreaker will crush Firebrand taking his boons and cc and dmg him till death.
Weaver will just rotate his dmg spells before firebrand casts his 3/4 spells.
Scourge will just laugh while taking Firebrands boons and torment+burning his ass till death.
Deadeye will just backstab him from 1500 range 3x times in a row.
Soulbeast will just autoattack Firebrand farting condies like tsunami until he dies in 3 sec.
Holosmith well he will crush Firebrand with hes weapon, spirit weapon(photon weapons – how ironic)
Mirage will laugh entire fight dodging Firebrands attacks.
Renegade….

I know lots of pve casual players are hyping this spec cause we dont have so many possibilities and builds capable of doing anything(Firebrand – close combat specialist….how ironic only class without 25% movement trait is a close combat specialist haha).
For those hardcore guardians there is a secret message engraved in this spec, only true guardian will see it: prepare to be farmed bois in pvp and wvw.

I dont get it why you argue, firebrand is melee condi brawler with 300 range mantras but someone forgot about guardian being slowest proffesion in the game, such irony. F1 F2 nor F3 will make them faster nor facetank other classes when you cast that axe2 symbol yor enemy will be long gone. Guy who does balance and innovations for guardians clearly know nothing about his class , heck even core guardian mess of traits prove this right. Saddly ppl defending this new elite spec cause they know how guardian is messed up with his only 2 viable choices to play so they praise every new (bad) thing regarding this joke class. Truth will be revealed in 2 weeks, so prepare your napkins for big rain of tears.

Dawdler.8521:

So many skills yet holosmith will unquestionably be the weakest elite.

Because purity of purpose on the engineer means nerf everything to Anet.

Firebrand will be weakest.

Aeolus.3615:

Ragnarox.9601:

Aeolus.3615:

Ragnarox.9601:

Kuya.6495:

I can definitely see this messing up guardians real hard.

Guardian got screwed with this new elite spec It will be farming meat to all other specializations.

every guard build is farming meat…. inc dagger signet warrior who cares about blocks?
oh wait bzerker already does it xD

Well I dont have problems with warriors/bers with my hammer sw/sh build. But I will farm firebrand so hard with it. Especially in 2 weeks when that beta comes. Berserkers will destroy them so easily especially new elite spec with unblockable attackw and that op new 234 combo.

well thats what i am expecting to happen, cause guard surviability if hostile can ignore the only defenses class has… wich isnt hard to bypass aegis/blocks.
team up with a necro boon rip and converting boons lol… firebrand QQ
Just stay out of the fire tome place due the massive fire stacks burst possibility.

When firebrand pop up hes f1 tome use balance stance (that anti condi thing) and hes gone easy matchup like dh vs thieves.

Aeolus.3615:

Ragnarox.9601:

Kuya.6495:

I can definitely see this messing up guardians real hard.

Guardian got screwed with this new elite spec It will be farming meat to all other specializations.

every guard build is farming meat…. inc dagger signet warrior who cares about blocks?
oh wait bzerker already does it xD

Well I dont have problems with warriors/bers with my hammer sw/sh build. But I will farm firebrand so hard with it. Especially in 2 weeks when that beta comes. Berserkers will destroy them so easily especially new elite spec with unblockable attackw and that op new 234 combo.

Kuya.6495:

I can definitely see this messing up guardians real hard.

Guardian got screwed with this new elite spec It will be farming meat to all other specializations.

Just give up ppl will defend this new elite specialization untill that beta test in 2 weeks, then you will see rage and tears on this subforum. Remember my words.

Kuya.6495:

Man, if 90 sec cd makes you so salty just take virtues, jesus.

And no, it won’t be too late if firebrand sucks on release. you know because they do balance patches more than once a year. please stop with the hysteria.

Balance patch goes pre expansion and next maybe in march….Virtues are also 72s cd.
Ill just wait for salty and crying comments after 2 weeks and pvp wvw testing. No point of arguing with ppl who praised pre HoT DH.

So ill join the hype, firebrand is fluffy visually stunning, they are so fun fun fun. cant wait to use tomes and sing songs of love in the battlefield.

Kuya.6495:

I disagree completely. Firebrand will definitely be used in wvw since guard is used for stunbreaks, condition clears and stability there and the new elite has them by the truckloads. The wvw meta doesn’t even use dh so this whining about channeled blocks makes no sense.

I am less certain about pvp, but if you were running core burn guard before you will definitely upgrade to firebrand due to the elite’s higher access to condis and higher access to blocks than core guard.

I doubt firebrand will be meta in raid pve, but channeled blocks doesn’t matter there so your initial complaint is null here too.

The only thing firebrand cannot do as well as dh is be a bruiser/ 1v1 spec.

Also, if you take indomitable courage you will get a stunbreak on cast and stability on completion. you don’t have to worry about a thf when it comes to tome of courage if you take indom. You should worry about tome of resolve, but you don’t need to have focus equiped to protect the cast. simply use focus 5 and then f2.

Do you play wvw at all? If 2 ppl focus you you are dead in seconds, Dh cant die that fast cause of active blocks, with Firebrand you dont have any active blocks. You are pretty much screwed if anyone sees you are a quickness bot. Core guard support is much better cause its not locked into Tome skill F’s so you can use shouts and use active weapon skills that can save you, in Firebrand if you are focused and you jump into F3 but need to go to focus cause of constant pressure you get a 90sec lockout and not even mantra elite stunbreak stability wont help you.

Kuya.6495:

Honestly last time karl listened to this sub forum’s raging we got a dh that was so overpowered that it has been nerfed every patch since. I still remember the dh nuke memes. Hopefully the devs get very selective this time with who they listen to lest we get more powercreep.

It is ridiculous that people here are requesting the new tomes act as kits when these tomes can give area wide stunbreak, stability, projectile reflect, condi removal, healing, burning, and resistance. Engi kits come nowhere near the power that these tomes have and being able to switch back and forth between defense, healing and dps with tomes would not be balanced. A more reasonable request is to lower the cooldown on tome of courage to at least 40-50 sec.

Did you ever see or played DH pre hot? It was pure garbage, ppl were raging with a reason. Than it was buffed but traps were OP for casuals so they nerfed it every patch.

Saddly Firebrand is even worse than prehot DH, you will see it in 2 weeks when ppl try to test it in pvp and wvw.

Engie kits are very good, did you played it, they give block, heal, condi dmg and its quite usefull. Firebrand kits are 90 sec cd which is abysmal cd. Dont forget mantras are 300 range also and almost all skills are 3/4 cast time. Very bad if you actually want to support someone in big fights cause of so many movements and interrupts.

ppl are saying its fun, well hell yeah it would be fun to farm Firebrands when the expansion starts, pls dont be salty then and cry for a buffs it will be too late then.

What I would to see is like engie kits with skills on big cd’s rather than big cd tomes with skills on 6-15sec cd.

Kuya.6495:

Considering that you can trait tome of courage to give aegis on every cast of f3, heal mantra gives up to 3 aegis and you can use mace, shield and focud to block, i really don’t see how you can say that firebrand has no blocks.

Hell, firebrand has more stunbreaks and stability than guard or dh.

Dude you realize if you go into f3 and someone is into you(thief, warrior or hammer scrapper) you wont have enough time to cast those 3/4 spells and if you wish to swap into mace and properly block there goes your 90sec cd. You cant use weapon skills when you are in F3.

And dont forget when you are in f3 you get quickness but its useless cause you dont even attack because it is a kit.

This concept of tomes is very bad with virtues cd.
Plus other elites now can strip away your boons heck even better some(most) can just took it from you.

this wont be viable as a solo or 2-3 party. Maybe in raids but chrono and druid can do it better on shorter cd.

I dont see it being usable in pvp or wvw roaming cause if someone even see you coming you will be already dead especially if they focus you, without RF you are easy meat.

Hicci.8761:

Ragnarox.9601:

Hicci.8761:

Ragnarox.9601:

Aeolus.3615:

Ragnarox.9601, for what it looked, virtues traited to castfire on a target zone plus new stuff to add more burn, ANet ismaking a gimmick trough what is op to carry the players nothing more, still its a very unmobile combat… easilly killed.

core guard falled extremelly^2 behind due new specs condi spam, and firetrash might be dangerous while supporting players ganking coreclasses… LOL

Actually I might farm those firebrands in next xpac so they might buff it somehow. I love guardians playing it from the start in 2012 but dont like the road it goes. Core need lot of attention but they made another useless support spec. Cant wait for a farmsfest in pvp and wvw.

I don’t think firebrand was ever intended to be a pvp class. We got DH for that.

So firebrand is class for world bosses? Pve hearts? So other elites have uses in pvp and firebrand was not intended for pvp and its locked only in 1 game mode?thats a bad thing to do. And btw DH is not that good in high level pvp.

Firebrand does have pvp uses but it was not the main focus. The elite mantra is literally 3 stun breaks in a row. Axe has powerful condi and #3 is a condi cc. Axe 2 also dazes and tomes have many skills that have instacasts.

In general i think firebrand was designed raid meta in mind to offer us a spot in there. We cant predict anything without seeing it ourselves.

Tomes does not have insta casts, maybe only 1st skill.

Fashion Mage.3712:

Ragnarox.9601:

F skills does look like kits but maybe you can go into them wherever you like but you would not have stunbreak and stability at F3 if you used it once. (Thats a really good thing if its true).

Nope, they definitely have cooldowns.

That sucks then. I won’t use it. They are not kits then.

http://imgur.com/a/KBwBS

this are all the skills of firebrand.

Axe is excellent condi weapon but thats it orrr..
Tomes have cd’s like vritues plus when you go into some tome you have also cd’s of inner skills.
Cast times are bad all 3/4 that can be interrupted.

But I dont understand one thing…

F skills does look like kits but maybe you can go into them wherever you like but you would not have stunbreak and stability at F3 if you used it once. (Thats a really good thing if its true).
F2 heals are not that good.
F3 looks promising
F1 are condition very heavy oriented

Mantras does not look good especially heal one..it should heal more..at least 2400.

Elite needs some whoa effect to be better than RF.

Haha hot elites will just spam as always and you wont be able to react. Remember that some spec can dish out 15k dmg in 2 sec while you casting your spell in F3 tome. As a DH I can oneshot thieves and some classes with15-17k hp. Happily firebrand will be new one on my list with no blocking skills. Good luck with surviving anything in pvp especially in wvw when some skills in zerg fight can do 10-15k dmg from far and unblockable. Firebrand will never be meta in current state. Blocks are too valuable in high end pvp and wvw.

Hicci.8761:

Ragnarox.9601:

Aeolus.3615:

Ragnarox.9601, for what it looked, virtues traited to castfire on a target zone plus new stuff to add more burn, ANet ismaking a gimmick trough what is op to carry the players nothing more, still its a very unmobile combat… easilly killed.

core guard falled extremelly^2 behind due new specs condi spam, and firetrash might be dangerous while supporting players ganking coreclasses… LOL

Actually I might farm those firebrands in next xpac so they might buff it somehow. I love guardians playing it from the start in 2012 but dont like the road it goes. Core need lot of attention but they made another useless support spec. Cant wait for a farmsfest in pvp and wvw.

I don’t think firebrand was ever intended to be a pvp class. We got DH for that.

So firebrand is class for world bosses? Pve hearts? So other elites have uses in pvp and firebrand was not intended for pvp and its locked only in 1 game mode?thats a bad thing to do. And btw DH is not that good in high level pvp.

Aeolus.3615:

Ragnarox.9601, for what it looked, virtues traited to castfire on a target zone plus new stuff to add more burn, ANet ismaking a gimmick trough what is op to carry the players nothing more, still its a very unmobile combat… easilly killed.

core guard falled extremelly^2 behind due new specs condi spam, and firetrash might be dangerous while supporting players ganking coreclasses… LOL

Actually I might farm those firebrands in next xpac so they might buff it somehow. I love guardians playing it from the start in 2012 but dont like the road it goes. Core need lot of attention but they made another useless support spec. Cant wait for a farmsfest in pvp and wvw.

KiLLiAN.5629:

What I meant by comparing them to kits was that they are similar because we can’t see our weapon while using them.

They are not even near kits, kits are actually usable and toggleable for engie.