Promised? Did they actually say “I Promise you this”
Highly doubt it.
Also there have been several small changes and more to come, just people over look those changes because they feel. “I didnt ask for this change”
You know what? I don’t like many of the changes other players have asked for.
This could be fun.
OP your argument lost the ability to hold water the second your post began to assume a mutual exclusivity between WvW players and PvE player. This whole flawed thought process that no one plays both WvW and PvE is absurd.
While you’re not wrong, according to Anet we all play both which is also not remotely close to true.
Tempting, but Timmy’s is over rated.
TBH a good number of WvW player’s have probably spent more on Gems. Transfer’s aren’t free and server loyalty is all but a myth so there is quite a few players/full guilds that transfer every couple months. Some WvW players like myself find Anet’s version of PvE so mind numbingly boring that I would rather buy gems and turn them into gold then spend a single moment in PvE. Outfits, Salvo-Matics, Finishers, name changes, makeover’s, and gathering tools are not all exclusive to PvE players several WvW players buy this stuff.
Baruch Bay is Brazilian is it not ?
First we need to determine what kind of server you’re looking for. I would probably direct you down the glicko scale to a server that needs help. You may be looking for something a little more active though. So it really depends on how far down you’re willing to go, AR like Puck said is a great server but it is T5-T6 area so it’s certainly not going to be as busy as T3+.
Or they could fix it.
I know …. it’s a mind blowing concept.
I would rather have the WvW population significantly reduced (even if it’s dead) with exploiters banned than to keep it active with people who don’t deserve to still have their account
You need to stop inadvertently justifying the fact that Anet has ignored this Bug. Those players would not be abusing the buff if Anet would fix it, it’s not like people haven’t been complaining about it since the day the event went live. You would also need to distinguish between those doing it intentionally and those people who are getting the buff inadvertently. Good luck with that.
How exactly do you plan to distinguish between the two groups of people ? We’ve established that it’s very easy to unintentionally get the buff. Should people be expected to log out/switch maps and have to wait in Queue again every 5 min in order to avoid being lumped in with the ones you want banned ?
Since the event started I’ve gotten the bug by accident one time. Once. As soon as I saw it on my buff bar I logged out of WvW and back in (no queue at that time). I guess I’ve got more honor and integrity than those players who choose to just go with it.
That’s easy for you to say, there are others out there that have gotten it multiple times. Some servers have Queue’s depending on which map your guild/friends are on. Let’s not forget those people that are actually oblivious to the bug. Let’s face it, pug zergs have people that get one pushed/insta killed all the time, it’s completely possible that there are some people running around in large groups/zergs that have not noticed they have the buff. It’s not as black and white as you guys are making it out to be.
Once again, if they would fix it, it wouldn’t be a problem. They would go out of their way to fix a bug that affected their gem store, all game breaking bugs should be treated in this manner.
How exactly do you plan to distinguish between the two groups of people ? We’ve established that it’s very easy to unintentionally get the buff. Should people be expected to log out/switch maps and have to wait in Queue again every 5 min in order to avoid being lumped in with the ones you want banned ?
the fact that Josh is still hiding is somewhat pathetic! duck and cover
At least Josh told us in the first place that he made this golem event. I wouldn’t beat him (too much) for trying as that might be the original cause why “WvW-team” (if there even is one) isn’t talking to us.
Awwww…I won’t beat him. Just spend a couple of beers and explain him why his decision was really bad and what’s wrong about WvW in general.
IT’S A TRAP
You’re right, he tried to mix it up and bring something to WvW for us. It was a mistake and not very well thought out but his intentions were good. What he (or whoever’s job it is) should be doing now is addressing the community regarding the bug. We need Anet to listen and discuss this event so in the future we don’t get more game breaking events put into place. As per usual they are just ignoring it, this is a prime example of how NOT to run a business/company. They need to man up, put on their flame suits and come in ready to work with us to make future events not only enjoyable, but healthy for the game as a whole.
We get it and actually understand it.
The players who abuse it have deliberately made the choice to ruin the enjoyment of the game for other people. It is the same childish act a spoiled child does.
Each person has a limited amount of time to play the game doing what they find most enjoyable. The moment some idiot takes that away for some childish amusement that idiot should be banned. If not, then anet, via silence, says it is ok for people to be kittens.
Your almost there.
You realize Anet has deliberately made the choice to ruin the enjoyment of the game for many players just by making this event active.
Before you start calling the other players childish you need to realize some of them are not abusing this, some of them are receiving the buff unintentionally. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of those players don’t read the forums and have no idea why they are 1 shotting people.
People just don’t get it.
If instead of a buff this was say a gem store bug that gave players an extra 10,000 gems every time they purchased gems, the game would be brought down and it would be fixed immediately, so why is this, which by your own admission is game breaking being not being fixed ?
The questions you should be asking is why has Anet not fixed it, why are you not holding them responsible. These post about the Golem buff being “abused” should and need to be directed at Anet, stop directing it at the players. Whether or not the player should be using the buff in this manner is irrelevant. Whether or not you agree with the buff is irrelevant. Why Anet is condoning these players actions by allowing it to continue …. now that is relevant.
The White Knight syndrome needs to stop, open your eyes for once, your precious Anet is at the head of this bus and driving it off a cliff with this Golem Buff bug.
I’ll make it easy.
The point is, point the finger at the right person/people. It could be easily prevented, this is what is know as neglect and these are some of the repercussions of neglect.
They are accountable IF their actions are breaking the rules. Presently they are not breaking any known rules.
You seem to be the one missing the point here.
By not fixing it, Anet is allowing it to continue, by not making any statements Anet is allowing it to continue. Do I need to link the definition of Allow ? Players currently are not in the wrong, because currently they are breaking no known rules. This is a moral issue more than anything.
But if you want to get down to the nitty gritty of it, stop demanding for player’s to be banned and start demanding that Anet does their kitten job and fix it. Hows that for common sense, hopefully that can sink in.
This is 100% Anet’s fault, you can’t punish people for their stupidity.
Just because the banker accidentally forgot to close the vault doesn’t mean you should be allowed to steal the money.
However, I understand where you’re coming from. This problem is on both the devs and the players that took advantage of this exploit.
Is it a bug ?
We have not been informed it’s a bug, as far as we know it’s part of the event to bring those that can’t afford Golems on par with those that can afford them.
Show me where Anet has stated that this is a bug.
Then why doesn’t everyone just start with the stupid buff in the first place???
Why does Anet have a system in place that is more about round the clock coverage than it is about NA time zones ? and scores are determined by the round the clock coverage on NA server’s. That really doesn’t make a whole lot of sense either, and yet here we are !
Trying to figure out why Anet would do something (or not do something) is about as productive as playing in traffic.
This is 100% Anet’s fault, you can’t punish people for their stupidity.
Just because the banker accidentally forgot to close the vault doesn’t mean you should be allowed to steal the money.
However, I understand where you’re coming from. This problem is on both the devs and the players that took advantage of this exploit.
Not even remotely close to the same thing.
If Anet truly felt it was a bug that people shouldn’t be using all they had to do was post something about it at any point within the last 5 days. Or hey here’s an idea, do a quick fix patch.
Seeing as how they have done neither I think it’s safe to say they don’t feel it’s a bug. How is one to honestly know how Anet feels about this and whether or not it is intended ? I could make arguments all day, whether you agree with them or not is irrelevant until it is confirmed that it’s a bug and they are just to lazy or ashamed to acknowledge/fix it.
Is it a bug ?
We have not been informed it’s a bug, as far as we know it’s part of the event to bring those that can’t afford Golems on par with those that can afford them.
Show me where Anet has stated that this is a bug.
Working as intended?
I’m going with this.
Don’t want to own up to your mistakes ?
Don’t want to fix your mistakes ?
Don’t want to acknowledge your mistakes ?
Must not be a mistake.
No … no they shouldn’t.
This is 100% Anet’s fault, you can’t punish people for their stupidity. As I said in another thread, until Anet confirms that this is a bug, consider it part of the event.
They have had NUMEROUS reports about what is happening, it’s been plastered all over the forums from day 1 of the event, and yet, they have made no comment or effort to stop it. One can only assume that it is part of the event due to the lack of actions taken to prevent it from continuing.
Of course it’s someone from JQ that would make this post. Some please explain to him how real WvW fights work.
It’s disturbing that no one at Anet had the foresight to see the negative effects this would produce in WvW. They don’t think things through at all it seems, the fact that prior to this event players were giving several valid reasons to not do this event or at the very least keep it down to 1-2 days, just goes to show they either do not read the forums and therefore are full of crap when they tell us they are, or they do not value our opinions at all. I wonder what their next disaster will be that could have easily been avoided by simply reading.
RIP WvW, no other part of the game is worth playing and now WvW is about as fun as bathing in razor blades.
we’re having a blast busting and trolling these golem groups on foot lolol
Well ya, DR/ET the grps of golems are maybe 4 ppl big.
Well a mod can’t really do much to help us out. Their job is forums, they have nothing to do with the actual game.
I’m glad Anet isn’t in charge of any Professional sports, could you just imagine ?
This week all the NBA games will be played with a football. I think our fans will love this event !
It seems fitting.
So Anet this whole Golem crapfest
I’m watching you violate my game mode.
I often wonder if Dev’s from other games play GW2 and go back to the office on Monday and laugh with one another about what the Anet Devs did this week.
I highly doubt they will answer, the only reason they replied to the FAQ bait and switch for HoT is because it was being plastered all over the web. This is not really news worthy, it’s utterly stupid but not news worthy so don’t expect anything until the end which will be something like “Our Golem Rush Event was a great success, we want to thank all the players that participated and we look forward to bringing you more new and exciting events in the future”.
Clueless /15char
It’s a shame Anet is so ignorant to the WvW players, had they actually listened in the first place they would have seen that it wasn’t the event everyone was opposed to it was 7 days of it. They could have done 24 or even 48 (wouldn’t be happy but I could live with it) hours and then gone back to the regularly scheduled program.
For all the “we are reading and listening” replies we get they sure as heck don’t read or listen very well.
I look at it like this, One person like pizza, one person hate pizza, does that mean pizza is bad or good to you, well it up to you to decide.
The difference is, pizza doesn’t crawl off the plate and force itself down your throat, the pizza doesn’t break the pizza parlor (numerous bugs), you don’t force someone who hates pizza to eat it for 7 days they could probably handle 1 or 2 days of pizza but forcing them to eat it for 7 is just ignorant.
They should have put this event into EotM, those that wanted it could have easily gone there for the week. It’s not like EotM players would have been opposed to faster Karma/xp trains.
Agreed. Last week for Reset, me and my boyfriend stayed online and in WvW for about 3 and a half hours, logging off at 12:30.
Last night? I’m pretty sure we were bored after about 20 minutes, and our guild raid was finished around 10- an hour after reset.
And not only is this about fun- but let’s talk about money and farming, because that’s what Anet seems to cater to. Reset is one of the most profitable nights for a WvWer, because there are so many good fights and everyone is pumped up and ready to stay up late. It’s hard enough to make money in WvW as it is, but now you have taken away essentially a week and one reset of farming away from us- while at the same time prompting people to spend lots of money on golems to do this stupid event.
Same for myself and our guild, we played for about 45 min then called it because our members were logging off in record time.
At the very least it would be nice if they locked in the match ups for next week so servers like CD don’t get screwed over because of an event most of us expressed we did not want.
@AEOLUS glad you support anet test runs someone needs to just my opinion because we finally get a good match up this week and now lots of good wvw players not going to play this week . Fellow CD wvw player
It is not a matter of support or not support Anet, i really dont like this to, but they cant do this on a test server also, and wvw was never that good in siege gameplay, it never ment to be anything that serious to play, Gw2 wvw it is not that siege mmo where players can put effort in their game defending and feel reewarded, it is like a android tablet game where u play when u are bored or waiting for something that is cooking.
So… making this “event” as bad as it sounds makes perfect sence becasue game is chaging to a even more low effort game, players will feel rewarded becouse it is easy.[off topic]
Neverwinter Stronghold (atm looking for info about that it migh be a better siege/warfare game).
Started playing again when Golems were announced, Stronghold is Aug 11, 2015. From what I have been told, open world PvP zone with what I’m assuming is Guild Halls. Thats all I got for you
Ya, it’s early, no coffee yet.
Fixed it just for you sweet cheeks !
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I had actually thought about doing this before I logged, my Golem’s would have spelled out something a little more vulgar.
This may very well be the end for me, until now I was still waiting for a valid reason to pre-purchase HoT and then they implemented this. Now I’m not only weighing why I should buy the expansion but also why I should continue to support a game that I care more about than the Dev’s themselves. They don’t listen, they continually implement moronic unplanned junk into the game, we warn them and against better judgement they don’t heed the warnings from those of us that play daily. It’s apparent that regardless of what they say, they truly don’t play their own game, if they do than they are the kind of players they should be getting rid of. This negatively affects a game mode, it’s not fluff, it’s not cosmetic, it doesn’t make it more competitive, you might as well take all the mobs out of PvE and call it an event because that’s on par with what you have done here.
You do realize this is one week only right? Don’t you think your being a bit melodramatic. Its just an event for fun do not read into more then that.
You do realize I really don’t care about your opinion right ? For the record, it’s been a build up of neglect, terrible decisions, flat out ignoring their character base, and what we can come to expect from Anet. They were warned that this was a very bad decision and once again they ignored us. So while you’re seeing one week, some of us can see the bigger picture which includes past events, past discussions, past advice ignored, and dare I say future events.
If you truly did not care about other ppl opinions then why post yours online?
If you’re going to try and make an argument put some thought into it, I don’t care about your opinion because there is nothing constructive about it. Other’s opinions are fine, even the ones that disagree because they aren’t attacking other’s thought’s on the matter. Your opinion on my thoughts has nothing to do with the topic.
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This may very well be the end for me, until now I was still waiting for a valid reason to pre-purchase HoT and then they implemented this. Now I’m not only weighing why I should buy the expansion but also why I should continue to support a game that I care more about than the Dev’s themselves. They don’t listen, they continually implement moronic unplanned junk into the game, we warn them and against better judgement they don’t heed the warnings from those of us that play daily. It’s apparent that regardless of what they say, they truly don’t play their own game, if they do than they are the kind of players they should be getting rid of. This negatively affects a game mode, it’s not fluff, it’s not cosmetic, it doesn’t make it more competitive, you might as well take all the mobs out of PvE and call it an event because that’s on par with what you have done here.
You do realize this is one week only right? Don’t you think your being a bit melodramatic. Its just an event for fun do not read into more then that.
You do realize I really don’t care about your opinion right ? For the record, it’s been a build up of neglect, terrible decisions, flat out ignoring their character base, and what we can come to expect from Anet. They were warned that this was a very bad decision and once again they ignored us. So while you’re seeing one week, some of us can see the bigger picture which includes past events, past discussions, past advice ignored, and dare I say future events.
This may very well be the end for me, until now I was still waiting for a valid reason to pre-purchase HoT and then they implemented this. Now I’m not only weighing why I should buy the expansion but also why I should continue to support a game that I care more about than the Dev’s themselves. They don’t listen, they continually implement moronic unplanned junk into the game, we warn them and against better judgement they don’t heed the warnings from those of us that play daily. It’s apparent that regardless of what they say, they truly don’t play their own game, if they do than they are the kind of players they should be getting rid of. This negatively affects a game mode, it’s not fluff, it’s not cosmetic, it doesn’t make it more competitive, you might as well take all the mobs out of PvE and call it an event because that’s on par with what you have done here.
But if they end it that soon, what about the people who can’t play on the weekend. it only for a week, i am not sure it wont kill yea for that long.
We would be doing them a favor.
WvW for a long time now has been extremely stale and the players very jaded. The matchups are always the same. The time zones in which certain servers take turns dominating PvDing are always the same. It’s already a giant karma train with a few sprinkles of fights mixed in every blue moon.
The golem event is just a silly vacation from the monotony. It’s a week where players can just sit back and relax and not have to pretend that their efforts on the map actually matter. Golems or no golems, everything just flips contantly nowadays anyways. I welcome anything different, even if it’s silly.
Um no, its boring and not fun at all, I would take the monotony over this in a heart beat.
I hate to play devil’s advocate here, as I too agree with all the posts requesting this event to end. It was fun for an hour, tedious for another hour and then down-right annoying for the final hour… however; I do truly believe A-net WAS trying to make WvW enjoyable for a “larger” audience. I, as a parent, cannot see a Dev or anyone who really loves their game doing anything they felt was against the greater good.
All that said, I, as a parent, also know when to admit when I have messed up.
It’s shocking how out of touch they are with their own game, if they honestly couldn’t see this was a bad idea …
I just don’t even know what to say
Whats there to test ? I’m not even a dev and I could have told you a week of this is a terrible idea, zero testing needed to use common sense.
Our guild lasted about 1 hour before they logged in disgust.
It’s like pirate ship meta … only slower …. with no movement …
Agreed, I’m currently thinking what other game I should go play for the week. Who’s bright idea was 7 days of this ?