Guild Wars 2

So many people think that eles are apparently viable lol. Probably fotm build mains not wanting to deal with the ele meta again, kinda sad.

Eles are not viable at all. Every other role outclasses them.

Build diversity is horrible, survivability is bad, base stats are horrible, damage is decent, condition removal is average.

Why not just play a warrior?

What’s up with hotjoins being 10v10 + no spectator mode?

It’s seriously kitten ing me off. Stop calling elementalists “the ele”

Do you address other classes as “the warrior, the necro, the thief, the mesmer, the guardian”? No? Then stop.

Lol’d at the title .

oh wtf

well, thanks for info. I better start grinding up to 50…

Still not included in the data files?

I’m kinda shocked to see how expensive this new armor is… I wanted to have 2 sets but together they can seriously reach up to 400g + lots of materials farmed.

This will never work, and as nerfed as Eles can be, they’re still the only class that interests me in GW2.

“High skillfloor” class
Always loved the mage concept
Flashy spells
Mobile
Powerful in pvp
Versatile
Highest aoe damage burst in game (every spell is pretty much aoe)
Rewarding to play

Is Celestial better than Knight’s for wvw?

Axelifus.3269:

There’s nothing to “fix”, your entire gripe can be avoided by simply clicking the skill while you have fastcast on, it’ll function exactly the same way it did before the “devastating eff-up”.

Shh staff user. You clearly don’t realize how annoying this little change can be.

Even a 0.5 second delay can mess up a combo. What makes you think that the extra timing needed to put the cursor behind you isn’t enough to destroy your coordination?

ThiBash.5634:

This is a tricky balance change…D/D loved the melee version, staff’ll love the ranged version. So which one to listen to?

That’s an easy one. Listen to the people that loved how it used to work for 15 months.

CETheLucid.3964:

We get an amazing “Arcane Wave” like heal (in the right spot can get you from below 1k HP back to max) on a shorter cooldown untraited…

Nearly instant cast (certainly the fastest straight up heal we have now), does damage, counts as a blast finisher… and that’s very cool in of itself, but then on top of that…

The original Arcane Wave get’s an amazing range buff, keeps it’s radius, retains it’s instant cast nature… and the players are asking for a revert?

Seriously? What am I reading here? Are there that many bad elementalists? Anet’s been mean to us (RtL) before.

This isn’t one of those times. Hell, they even buffed FGS for use on the move. That was really nice.

Every change in this patch was a big step in the right direction. If any devs are reading, thank you. This is a glorious ele update.

If there’s a bad ele in there, that would be you my staff friend.

That’s how it has always been in here. Eles can’t ever get a buff without receiving a “compensation” nerf.

It is not the same however, for when we get nerfed. I don’t think we ever received a compensation buff for losing RtL.

Why is ANet so afraid to buff this class? Was ele that op in the 0/10/0/30/30 days? More than the current fotm impossible to deal with condi users / warriors? I fail to see what’s stopping them. It’s also sad that none of them play an ele.

oZii.2864:

Nyxion.9142:

I play D/D to not use any ground targeting, however with scepter it makes more sense. ANet, Is it possible to change targeting so it depends on main hand weapon?

emikochan.8504:

Use fast cast if it’s taking too long to arcane wave

Good luck aiming for Burning Speed combo field.

You just have to hit the field with wave and it should give you the might. I just messed around with it quickly and no fast cast was able to give myself the might mid burning. You do have to am it a little behind you though.

Yeah, that’s pretty much the only way. I’ve never liked instant ground target casts but I guess that I will have to switch back and forth whenever I feel like playing dagger MH and staff respectively.

Ty anet for making my class a lot harder to play for no reason

blutstein.2468:

basically to prevent that an ele could escape every fight they don’t want. no big deal for most players that don’t jump on every bandwagon they come across.

Perfectly fine for thieves and warriors though.

Especially warriors. It’s not like they already get the best stats and damage in the game.

1. RtL cooldown reduced to 25 seconds from 40.
2. RtL is kept at 1200 range.
3. Fire Aura now has a 30 seconds cooldown from 40
4. Gale now has a 40 seconds cooldown from 50
5. Freezing gust now adds 3 stacks of vulnerability for 10 seconds
6. Improve ele’s base vitality by 90
7. Arcane Wave can now be right clicked to switch between instant cast and ground target (no, the custom options won’t make it the same)
8. Lightning touch casting time reduced to 1/2 seconds from 3/4
9. New Arcane heal is unblockable
10. We get a real elite skill
10.1 Attunements have no cooldowns for 15 seconds
10.2 Gain a massive stat bonus based on attunement chosen + bonus effects
10.3 Get a different and powerful moveset where all elements are combined (like a conjure / elixir X) Only your autoattack is based on your attunement
11. Glyph of elemental whatevr (current elite) is now a normal ability, lasts 30 seconds and still heals / stuns / protects but for a lesser amount.
12. Glyph of lesser elemental removed
13. Shatterstone cooldown increased to 3 seconds
14. Shatterstone casting time reduced to 1/4 seconds
15. Lingering attunements work in the way it’s intended
16. Lingering attunements only lasts 4 seconds.
17. Cleansing fire is a stun breaker again
18. Cleansing fire now does base damage on top of burning
19. Armor of earth cooldown reduced to 75
20. Same with the armor of earth trait
21. Mist form cd reduced to 60
22. Glyph of storms cd reduced to 50
23. Arcane shield cd reduced to 70
24. Diamond skin is deleted and reworked

Sigh

Apparently it gave “bunker ele” way too much mobility.

Fix? Nerf RTL for every kind of build, even if you were not playing the infamous bunker ele (0/10/0/30/30). Some people also hated the fact that ele “could get away from everything”.

It’s a balancing disgrace. Even more now that you get people like Warriors that can do the same with less effort, why aren’t those getting nerfed as much?

RTL nerfs should be reverted.

I’m considering this pvp build for a d/f user, not many changes since I’ll still be using 0/30/0/20/20. Can’t be helped because elemental attunement is now a master trait.

I’ll get tempest defense on the grandmaster trait instead and cooldown reduction air for the master trait, replacing bonus crit damage on arcane usage and bolt to the heart.

Shocking aura will basically be up 24/7, and Gale will also charge faster allowing me to do more damage. More fury and swiftness as well.

I just theorycrafted this great build based on the new patch

30 fire (V, VI, XI) crits inflict burning / 10% bonus dmg on fire / fire field finishes give fury
20 air (I, VII) zephyrs boon, 10% crit dmg for 15 seconds after using an arcane spell
10 water (VI) +10% damage when above 90% hp
10 arcane (VIII new blasting staff)

scholar runes / full zerk

new heal or ether renewal

lightning flash, mist form, arcane wave (replace lightning flash for frost bow if you want more ridiculous dps. arcane shield is also worth considering because you’ll be very vulnerable to getting picked off)

eruption into lava font / arcane wave (plus heal if needed) = lots of fury, then cast meteor and laugh as you hit 7k+ per meteor. Add tornado if you want for overkill.

Remember that the 25 point trait in fire will now add 10% bonus damage to burning foes.

DiogoSilva.7089:

Nikkinella.8254:

That’s why D/D gets nerfed so hard in every single patch.

The new heal benefits dagger eles a lot.

It has a casting time so it’ll be extremely clunky when used with fire fields such as ring of fire or burning speed (why would anyone use their heal so early?) It clearly only benefits staff users.

The new heal will be a noob trap. It’s even worse than goeh because it can be ruined pretty badly with a blind or a dodge. At least ether renewal needs an interrupt to be ruined, in exchange it’s superior in every single way and it only has a 15 seconds cooldown.

Why do I want to inflict 800 damage again when I’m healing?

@diogo
That’s not so hard -_-

A straightforward combo just got much more complicated to me, I only had to Burning speed + arcane wave. 2 buttons.

Now I gotta not only set the instant ground cursor thing (which I didn’t use because I find it annoying), but also put my cursor behind my character as I cast burning speed, and then while hovering over the trail as I cast it, press arcane wave (assuming that it’s still instant). All of that in a 1.2 – 1.5 seconds window.

And like you mentioned, in the heat of the battle such fine step by step combo may fail. I might have my cursor somewhere else for whatever reason and cast arcane wave nowhere near where I am, lol.

Gonna be fun!

DiogoSilva.7089:

Razor.6392:

Did no one really use arcane wave with a main hand dagger? It won’t be instant anymore and casting it will be a pain.

How do you burning speed + arcane wave after the patch, can anybody tell me?

Instant ground target cast will be the only option, and I’ll have to click the kitten burning speed trail mid-flight for it to work…

There are two options for one-click ground-targetted spells, you should try them both.

Yes, you’ll need to move your mouse a little bit now, but it’s not like this has ever ruined the Phoenix skill from scepter, is it?

You don’t have a 1.3 seconds window to cast phoenix. I fail to see how those 2 are even similar.

elprimo.4398:

Razor.6392:

It seems that they will actually move renewing stamina to a master tier trait in arcana, I’m honestly surprised that no one is saying anything.

They are moving elemental attunement up and not renewing stamina thank to the people who showed their concerns on the thread.

I hope so, because from what I’ve gathered in dulfy according to last night livestream that didn’t seem likely.

Then again I could’ve misread.

Did no one really use arcane wave with a main hand dagger? It won’t be instant anymore and casting it will be a pain.

How do you burning speed + arcane wave after the patch, can anybody tell me?

Instant ground target cast will be the only option, and I’ll have to click the kitten burning speed trail mid-flight for it to work…

I mean, saying stuff after that one ANet dev stated that they wouldn’t move it, yet they’re doing it anyway.

Keep up the good work community.

It seems that they will actually move renewing stamina to a master tier trait in arcana, I’m honestly surprised that no one is saying anything.

It has a cast time, it’s terrible. Maybe alright in PVE

I use Arcane Wave in the middle of Burning Speed. Needless to say I will no longer be able to do it.

The only way is with smartcast activated + having the cursor right in the small fire trail behind Burning Speed, assuming that it’s still instant.

Thank you ANet for in your infinite efforts of making other builds viable, you once again indirectly nerf other players.

I’m so done.

clearly I must be doing it wrong…

can any of you guys upload vids where you blink above buildings with LF consistently? like a thief would with shortbow5.

of course it won’t, why should it?

So should I stop doing this? I really wanted a dagger but tbh the odds of getting one out of the 18~ different types of weapon are slim.

Sigh

Btw I did get an ascended weapon chest with assassin stats at frac 32…

I want a frac skin tho lol

:/ chest isn’t in game? devs lied?

well kitten isn’t that great

Post patch? And at what scale?

Just wanna have an idea of how much I should climb. The sole reason I’m doing fractals is to get a dagger.

Also, do you still get any skin, even those that you don’t want to? I read somewhere that you were supposed to choose which skin you’d get now, from a chest or something.

Zelyhn.8069:

Axelifus.3269:

Agony is only subject to agony resistance alone.

And Anet’s will to make us farm instead of rewarding us for our skills.

Such skill putting 30 into earth~

What? I’ve see mesmers blinking up steep hills with ease, or above buildings like the forest of nifhel keep.

Lightning flash would fail in all of those cases.

When compared to mesmer’s blink?

Is it because it can do damage?

It would be understandable back then when it still was a stun breaker, right now it’s just inferior in every single aspect.

Blink 1________________________________Blink 2
40 seconds cd _________________vs______________ 30 seconds cd
no stun break _________________vs______________ stun break
does not go above obstacles ______ vs ______________it does
minimal damage _______________vs_____________no damage

Which one would you take?

why would they word it like that? I didn’t even read because of how awfully complicated it sounded.

So with 30 points in arcana, my attunement recharges 60% quicker over X (undefined) time?

Well, stupid tooltips are a trademark of anet I guess.

In any case, seeing how 60% shaves 6 seconds off the total cooldown, its safe to assume that 10% = 1 second, and post patch that will be reduced by half (30 arcana = 3 seconds total reduction)

I guess I’m just too dumb to get it. Recharge rate, recharge time, cooldown… are those even the same?

STRanger.5120:

Razor.6392:

I never understood the % reduction values.

30 in arcana right now apparently gives 60% attunement reduction, but if the base is 16 then wouldn’t that be over 8 seconds reduction total?

Apparently 10% = 1 second, only way it’d make sense.

Anyway, as someone with 20 in arcana, I assume that now I’ll have a 11 seconds attunement cooldown, down from 12?

It’s +X% attunement recharge rate, not X% faster attunement cooldown.

I still don’t get it XD

I never understood the % reduction values.

30 in arcana right now apparently gives 60% attunement reduction, but if the base is 16 then wouldn’t that be over 8 seconds reduction total?

Apparently 10% = 1 second, only way it’d make sense.

Anyway, as someone with 20 in arcana, I assume that now I’ll have a 11 seconds attunement cooldown, down from 12?

Full zerker armor set or my recently made knight’s set.

I switch between d/f, s/f, s/d and staff as needed.

After its changes? Or will it give a different stat instead?

Yea I didn’t expect to get a 99% chance, I expected 2 different procs: one at 66% and one at 33%

But if the sigil is bugged like you say then it’d be useless.

Superior sigil of blood: 33% on crit to steal life
Omnomberry ghost: 66% on crit to steal life

Both have a 2 sec cd… but is it shared? Would both work together?

Can anyone confirm? Thanks in advance.

anyone? :| .

Superior sigil of blood: 33% on crit to steal life
Omnomberry ghost: 66% on crit to steal life

Both have a 2 sec cd… but is it shared? Would both work together?

Can anyone confirm? Thanks in advance.

They’ll do that when they get a new model out.

It doesn’t matter who is the majority or minority. At the end of the day it matters who was right or wrong; and in this case those that complained about this skin being sold as a gemstore item are the ones that are right for a myriad of reasons.

That’s all there is really.

I’m sure you could’ve read forums or even map chat and assuming that you don’t live under a rock you could have realized that this skin was highly controversial and was likely to be changed.

Don’t give in to the flashy flashy next time and use your head.