Guild Wars 2

StickerHappy.8052:

SR on npcs says hi.. lol.

I know I’ll be bringing a GS and/or Focus. So those sorts of shenanigans should only go so far.

MailMail.6534:

What Ross said. <3 Hope to see you tomorrow in some Stronghold, will you be able to play?

During my prime time when you guys are all snuggly wugly in yourbeds? Yes. But I can try to get on and play with OMFG. Maybe we can pull out some 5 mes teams.

StickerHappy.8052:

T raw.4658:

Nebilim.5127:

zinkz.7045:

Nebilim.5127:

I’m almost convinced that engineers are the favorite class of Anet, why they always seem to pop in the daily and why they haven’t suffered any significant nerf every since kit refinement.

So since Kit Refinement nerf engies not having much in the way of nerfs means there is some sort of dev favouritism conspiracy, yet up to kit refinement nerfs the devs “favourite class” was probably the most nerfed class in the game, there seems a problem with your logic.

If i had to pick the most heavy nerfed class would probably be warrior 

Most heavily nerfed is thief mate no contest

Thieves be acting like drama queens as usual.

OTHER CLASSES HAVE IT WORSE

WAKE UP!

Proof? THIEVES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THE META

Rofl. When you nerf a god and bring him down to demi-god status, he’s still head and shoulders over the mere mortals that are all other classes :p

If Thief has been the most nerfed class (quantity, not quality, obviously), I say keep nerfing : D

Dusk.4708:

I agree that the old mimic needs to come back the new one is next to useless and i have yet to see any memser use it effectively in a competitive environmanet like wvw or pvp

Part of the reason it was slotted for change was its clunky design. Trouble is the devs got lazy and rushed it last minute (nerfed it to fix the PvE problem). So reverting it isn’t an option. It needs a proper redesign, and we posed a ton of good ideas on how to do this back when the devs came to the forum and joined the discussion.

MailMail.6534:

Thanks so much for this thread. I’m super excited to test some builds out! Hopefully people participate. Maybe OMFG can set some pvp boosts for everyone???

Ross is totally being passive aggressive towards me, because he knows I’ve been procrastinating learning how to do vids.

MailMail’s just scared to get mobbed by the Elite Torny Level IP Shatter Mesmer Hate Train Association™ for posting his gameplay.

#ETLIPSMHTA™

Unrestrict everything.

Here’s all the rules you should need
http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win

Quadox.7834:

Chaith.8256:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Chaith.8256:

Siva Mira.3546:

Before it was Pistol’s AA hits like wet noddle and Riffle wasn’t a thing. But it is all in the past now. So what is the excuse of this OP trait?

I think it should either:
1- Redesign it like they did with Dhuumfire.
2- The laziest way, Limit IP to Pistol only like how Glacial Heart works.
3- The boriest way, nerf the Trait and improve Pistol’s AA.

Well something you should consider is that a Rifle user’s IP does at most half as much damage over time as a Pistol user’s IP.

Chill of Death, Air, Fire, Incendiary Powder, Glacial Heart, Halting Strike, as much as many wish they weren’t, they’re all intended game mechanics.

Whoa whoa whoa, what’s wrong with Halting Strike? Requires narrowly timed skill to land, is limited to the number of interrupt skills the mesmer has, and is easily countered by stability (among other things). If there are tears being shed out there because of halting strike they’re purely tears of being outplayed.

Not sure why it was lumped in there with all those passives.

Please tell me more about how that Chaos Storm daze was timed or you planned on the illusions staggering the daze to interrupt subsequent casts. :o

Walk out of Chaos storm / dodge. Watch for shatter daze and don’t cast skills while the 3 clones are walking to you, like i do vs interrupt mesmer.

Rofl, pretty much.

And besides, only the use of chaos storm can be planned, the daze is rng so you have to get lucky (assuming you’re just not outplayed by the target walking out of the ring). A diversion might interrupt a target if the clone hits during a channel, but if the subsequent clones hit the target while dazed there’s no chance of halting strike interrupt procs because the target is locked out of skills, thus no channels, thus no interrupts. All that aside, unless a clone is on top of the target (and he has no stabos, aegis, etc) you’re not assuring that interrupt/halting strike proc. Clone placement is more unpredictable than the weather more times than not.

In conclusion: Halting Strike = not a passive trait. Only worth taking if you’re actively built with it in mind, and good enough to land consistent interrupts. Also worthless in anything but the most potent power builds.

messiah.1908:

5. mesmer are pain in the kitten but i did say i got lucky

I keep meaning to say to this-

That’s one story. Another story is that you out sustained and defeated him. How many hp’s you have is irrelevant. You brought the superior build and outplayed him. Simple as that.

If you aren’t yet set up to record now’s a great time to sort yourself out!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-How-to-make-a-half-decent-vid/first#

If you’re not playing Mesmer in this game you’re better off playing another game. It’s the single best part of the game. All other classes are boring by comparison. You’ll get more out of eating wheatbix.

The other classes can be good for a kitten , but Mes has lasting power. Regardless of what “spot” it is or isnt in atm.

Advent.6193:

Fay.2357:

Sylvari has the best looking armor in the game.

Also, we glow.

Never underestimate the glow. Not to mention, Psychic Plant? That’s just too stylish to pass up.

Also great with Italian, French, and Ranch dressing.

I have an asuan. He’s my kshot warrior.

I made a sylvari once, but then I got hungry and tossed it into a salad. YUM! : D

Me Games Ma.8426:

StickerHappy.8052:

When the OP uses a build properly… People say..noob enemies…. What the f is wrong with people…..

We’re mesmers,
all the hate we gathered in the last years now has reached a limit where it just randomly strikes down on innocent members of our community.

Rofl, this was awesome.

Gern.2978:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Rugby, Football (soccer), Gridiron, League- all escort missions. Teams of players trying to run a ball over the enemies line.

I mean, when you put it like that…

That’s real life, it’s not relevant here because you aren’t in a computer having to deal with AI’s.

Right, my bad. Purely virtual based analogy.

Counterstrike: Just a geometry exercise? You’re trying to direct bullets into your opponents head before they direct bullets into yours.

I mean, when you put it like that…

Rugby, Football (soccer), Gridiron, League- all escort missions. Teams of players trying to run a ball over the enemies line.

I mean, when you put it like that…

Chaith.8256:

Siva Mira.3546:

Before it was Pistol’s AA hits like wet noddle and Riffle wasn’t a thing. But it is all in the past now. So what is the excuse of this OP trait?

I think it should either:
1- Redesign it like they did with Dhuumfire.
2- The laziest way, Limit IP to Pistol only like how Glacial Heart works.
3- The boriest way, nerf the Trait and improve Pistol’s AA.

Well something you should consider is that a Rifle user’s IP does at most half as much damage over time as a Pistol user’s IP.

Chill of Death, Air, Fire, Incendiary Powder, Glacial Heart, Halting Strike, as much as many wish they weren’t, they’re all intended game mechanics.

Whoa whoa whoa, what’s wrong with Halting Strike? Requires narrowly timed skill to land, is limited to the number of interrupt skills the mesmer has, and is easily countered by stability (among other things). If there are tears being shed out there because of halting strike they’re purely tears of being outplayed.

Not sure why it was lumped in there with all those passives.

GoogleBrandon.5073:

Seems fair to me if they would make it default really…

I mean, the cooldown is pretty long – so it is not like you can AoE Interrupt that frequently with it

You can aoe daze with it. AoE interrupt is pure luck (outside of perhaps a group res attempt)

DavyMcB.1603:

No doubt mes is best paired with asuras. They even have racial skills that do confusion and 3 sec daze. I sitll regret making human mesmer until this day. Too much investment to change char now.

You must have a lot of extra space on your mesmers utility bar to even bring up racial util options.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Anet blew my mind once. During live streaming they announced their true thoughts/understanding/concept of Mesmer. They dubbed this…

Purple Cheese

It’s legit cause I have a backstory and attached picture.

Anet blew my mind once. During live streaming they announced their true thoughts/understanding/concept of Mesmer. They dubbed this…

Purple Cheese

Jade Quarry. Aussies and plenty of oceanic players in general. Most populated server, and overpopulated for the oceanic time zone. So plenty of zergs, blobs, pvdoor’ing, but also guild raids.

Tarnished Coast, least populated server for the oceanic time zone in Tier 1 (faces Jade Quarry and Blackgate). Aussies and Kiwi’s present in oceanic, plenty of enemies to fight. Guilds present doing raids.

I don’t know what’s going on with Blackgate atm. They have some oceanic guilds, don’t know who or what the kiwi/aussie ratio is.

Tier 1 will provide though.

jportell.2197:

Turrets need hotnerfed just to make them a little fun to fight against.

Idea!

Turrets fire cream pies and confetti. Purely cosmetic (and fun)

This is a pure fun buff to Turret Engies. Turret Engies will now come with 100% more fun in matches with this change. You say hotnerf, I say hotbuff ;D

Wile.5024:

Things is this vid came without a biased comparison or laughable claims, so that alone makes this the best vid you’ve posted.

Careful, that was almost a compliment.

Xaylin.1860:

I think we don’t have to argue about that. But that doesn’t mean CI builds are favoured in Strongholds. They just happen to benefit from interrupts. But they aren’t at an advantage. As you said, someone channeling also is an easy target for a shatter burst.

Maybe, we will see some weapon variations for shatter builds. But I doubt that CI, interrupt or lockdown builds will be in a better position than before. Mesmers might be wanted for Portals but sadly this will most likely remain the only USP. We might see some people running supportive (most likely Mantra) builds. But I just don’t see the particular need for interrupt or lockdown builds on Mesmers.

I don’t know what your guys experience is but in a place like WvW, lockdown/imobs etc for havok is considered “teh OP”. So sticking someone to the floor solo as a mes might not seem all that special, but if you’re working in a co-ordinated effort you can easily single out and eliminate targets.

The game mode will remove the fixed fighting location and need for players to cap/hold those oh so vital capture points. This will mean a total focus on player elimination (or support of that effort) for the whole team. This should yield radically different team comps than conquest, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see people draw on their experience in the WvW scene. A shatter mes will still be able to dump his burst, and with a couple of teammates be able to duke in and out to keep his butt off the ground. But there should be plenty of classes/builds in the field to single him out and focus him down. The same could be said of a CI build, but the CI loadout comes with a hell of a lot more sustain and CC to steer the fights in his favor (outside of in and out burst duking). I wouldn’t write any mesmer build out yet.

Oh one of these threads, lets see if I can do this.

The first fight was only a 1v1, if its not at least a 1v3 don’t even bring it to school for show and tell.

As for the pvp matches,
- Clearly hot join, you hot join hero you.
- None of your opponents ever dodged ever
- A real thief would have rekt you. Those thieves were terrabad. Did they step straight out of PvE and into PvP by mistake?
- That first fight was a total zerg on point, reel skrill m8
- You did get lucky vs that burst mesmer, if that were Helseth he’d of done 5% more damage and rekt you with his +5% Helseth Torny damage bonus
- You burned all your cd’s and utils, what a noob (actually, sometimes you were a little click happy :p)
- If you’d of just played IP shatter instead of MtD like a real mes, the first encounter in each of those matches landing a Mind Rack burst at mid would have scored you 500 points and instantly won the game. Learn 2 play a reel mezsma meta build with sum pro skill dood.

How’d I do?

Shout outs!

Good luck muppet’son.

CobraPolo.1723:

Question. Hopefully not a dumb one.

When putting a sigil on a weapon set with 2 weapons. ex. Sword/Torch. Does the sigil apply to the weapon set or that weapon only?

Ex. Sigil of Peril gives 20% vulnerability Duration. Would that be applicable to the set or weapon only that its on?

It is in effect when you’re using those weapons.

So I was having this issue for the last three days. Constant server dc’s like an intermittent connection. Up until then I’d been running GW2 since launch without a problem whatsoever.

I run windows firewall on win 7. After going into the firewall settings and permitting GW2, the problem resolved and ive had perfect connectivity.

Fay.2357:

Dondagora.9645:

Simply put, I feel like we’re gonna be mainly good at shepherding bombs across the map.

I actually sorta disagree with this. Swiftness and/or consistent stealth is going to be what’s best at doing that. This basically means warrior/ele with easy perma-swiftness, or thief for perma-stealthing.

I do think that the more open and varied nature of these fights means that power shatter is probably not going to be the only effective build though.

Perma stealth condi thief with caltrops should do the trick. Or this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=H_F1MJhHkQ0#t=212

Will be interesting to see revealed skills brought if people do try to bring perma stealth.

Noss.4105:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Here is Dire PU MtD (so no DE) that I put together and ran the other day because someone was running a rabid variant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIfVyOBAK2E

It’s fine. You’ve still got good clone output but can’t spam 3 clone shatters like you can with DE in the mix. Given this, you just have to alter your playstyle a little and you can achieve victory.

omg you tried to stomp a clone. Get yourself together, man!

I hit a thumb up, but only because D/P thief died in the video.

To be fair, I was sitting eating my breakfast during that fight. So I wasn’t even looking at the screen for that part :p

MandJ.8965:

Tell me why a bersercer Phantasm mesmer (which has less stealth then shatter) is a low risk build

Yeah I don’t know. On phantrupt I have no DE, no IP, no staff, no OH torch, not even the bonus hp’s from a zerk ammy having opted for assassins.

Gotta be on your game with that setup.

Here is Dire PU MtD (so no DE) that I put together and ran the other day because someone was running a rabid variant.

It’s fine. You’ve still got good clone output but can’t spam 3 clone shatters like you can with DE in the mix. Given this, you just have to alter your playstyle a little and you can achieve victory.

Calypso.2578:

Can’t read, yeh. There’s grammar and there’s spelling. So, if anything, I’m a spelling kitten. I’m not a grammar kitten. These forums would drive a grammar kitten mad. Many mesmers I talk to cannot stand the whining in these forums. They’re (not their) not illiterate. A silly assumption. At least you’re consistent, I’ll give you that.

Rofl, the assumption was so outlandish I thought it’d be an obvious joke. Personally I presume anyone that owns a computer, let alone plays a game, can read. But thanks for reminding me that the internet has a full breadth of people using it. Even one devoid of any sense of humor :p

StickerHappy.8052:

Calypso.2578:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Never the less, there’s a ton of good mesmers out their who I have to assume are illiterate, thus why they don’t come to the forums.

Are you being ironic? o_o

You do know what illiterate means right… Or…. Not…. What a joke… /double facepalm.

lololol, this is what you get for posting under duress.

messiah.1908:

you really dont need to prove yourself
i think all the players who contribute to the mesmer forum should considered good or even great

i once tried to be on the leader board but 2 days not playing drop me back to the start so i gave up and i met many players who are not in the leader board and would be considered good ones and i fought ones who were in it and i won

Not really my concern. Never the less, there’s a ton of good mesmers out their who I have to assume are illiterate, thus why they don’t come to the forums. The point being I’ve encountered enough of them.

Go lockdown, take a kshot warrior, do it for kittenz and giggles.

In otherwords, no. No one’s gone to the trouble of making a tutorial.

Biggest hurdle? Examples come in short bursts every 130 seconds, if they come at all :p

BlackDevil.9268:

Sigh… let’s just keep it on that we disagree.

Well I can’t find ross in any of the leaderboards and I judge by what I see, not by what someone or others claim someone to be. And what I saw is already said in other posts so I suppose you can judge yourself.

I started playing PvP last November. Meanwhile life was changing to reduce my gw2 playing time even more than it had been whittled down to. In the last month I’d be lucky to get a match in on a daily basis. Since the MMR/Leaderboard reset or whatever, I see I’ve managed a total of 47 games. I know my way around Mesmer, and I’ve been contacted plenty by people with either positive feedback or requests for builds or help. Someone else volunteered me in the generalist category for Mesmer Specialization (I didn’t put myself down for anything). I don’t consider myself some elite mesmer but I know I’ve developed a long way. I’ve got plenty of “flesh” that needs to be stripped away, and there’s loads still to learn for me. The biggest problem I find I face is the simple battle of time. Little play means fewer opportunities to improve, and without frequent play it becomes harder to play on form. Discipline goes right out the window. I tell my wife how the whole thing frustrates me. Ohwell, such is life.

I don’t know how long its been since I played shatter (WvW, guild raids, so back before november) but a month or whatever ago I’d been saying to myself “Ok, for the last game of the night put the phantrupt aside and have a shatter match”. No particular reason, just for something different. So anyway I did and got this for my trouble -_-u

StickerHappy.8052:

@Blackdevil

Just to clarify, When I que with ross we never que unranked, just to clarify the fact you said that the vid wasn’t on ranked.

Also, judging from your tone, I think you are underestimating Ross’ skill as a mesmer too much. Am I right?

Unranked and hot join don’t exist. They’re just lies created by communists to mislead people. I know people like to say they join ranked, but I understand that to be saying “I clicked play”.

BlackDevil.9268:

p.s. if these guys are actually queueing ranked I will eat my shoe and be happy I never get q’d with such people.

Lol.

BlackDevil.9268:

No I just dislike ross’ attitude and sadly my attitude doesn’t become much better from that.
It’s like you’re that dude that pops in once or twice to spice the discussion up a little by trolling.

If that’s how you choose to see things that’s how you choose to see things. That’s got nothing to do with me and everything to do with you. But hey, that’s ok, I understand and just accept that.

BlackDevil.9268:

You’re the one making video’s of 1v1’s in hotjoin, that allows me to comment on them.

When you make a false comment like this it just ends up showing your negativity and/or bitterness, or whatever it is you’ve got going on. I mean, it’s not all that bad to me but like I said, it colors everything else you might have to say. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt though, maybe somehow you don’t realize you’re being slanderous and you’re just misinformed or something.

BlackDevil.9268:

If you make a video and call me out in the same thread, you can expect me to come along and give my opinion. So I did. What do I get as response? ‘’Smart play is smart play’’.
Responds like that will bring up the unnecessary comments.

Glad you came along. I wasn’t coming at you with hard feelings. As for my response, again, I think you ended up reading something into it. Obviously you take exception with roaming DPS players rotating in and catching people 2v1 and unaware. One conclusion I’ve drawn is the possibility that you expected something in particular of a vid. Perhaps a montage of 1v1 fights where both parties see eachother coming, with narrow escapes, and ultimate decisive bursts to end things in the mesmers favor. Where’as I’ve tended to post full match vids in recent history showing the full length, ups and downs, good decisions and bad, good players and bad. Thus your expectations fall sourly short.

So when I responded with “smart play is smart play” it wasn’t to crack wise, rather not-unfriendly say something concise that reflects my view on the game, the role, playing to win, how things are/should be, etc etc etc. I don’t know why you took it as a slight because it wasn’t. Not everything’s about you BD ;D

ronpierce.2760:

Ross Biddle.2367:

StickerHappy.8052:

SobeSoul.6910:

StickerHappy.8052:

SobeSoul.6910:

I don’t mind some instant casts in the game. I play with rifle engie and can kinda anticipate OS against other engies based on where they are in context to me. I don’t like how warriors are so easy to play against because they’re so telegraphable, and I don’t think making all abilities have telegraphs would make the gameplay slower and clunkier like it did with warrior. On the other hand, I do see why spamming headshot, interrupt mantra, and OS can be annoying and frustrating to others.

HS is annoying why? you can spam it.

Interrupt Mantra? Every use has a mini cd, AND Don’t forget the recharge.

Regardless of it’s 4s CD (maybe it is 5) it along with other stuff doesn’t have much counterplay besides random dodges. Like I said, I don’t mind it that much, but can see why it bothers other players.

The recharge is counterplay? 2.5 seconds the mesmer is vulnerable to all types of CC. Isn’t that called counterplay? Mantra has only 2 charges, the mesmer needs to be super accurate to use it on important skills to make sure it is not wasted.

Thief Headshot on the other hand… As long as you have initiative…spam it all the way…

Pretty much change the title of this thread to

“To many thieves, not enough telegraphs”

;D

For now, this is actually kind of true, but even if thieves were removed from the equation, it would be replaced with other instant bursters like FA Ele and Shatter Mesmers, who tend to only be less existent atm due to their weakness to thief (the king roamer, essentially).

Shatter mes isnt instant in the way thief skills/utils are. The shatter skills themselves are to a degree, but the clones need to be on top of the target for the effect to be instant, and the potency is dependent on the number available. Even IP requires the mesmer to be on top of the target. Now, for the mes to do his signature “burst” he has to run through a whole huge setup that doesn’t happen with the push of a single button. You can see it coming, and have time to mitigate.

As for Fresh Air ele’s, they’ve got the instant casts, but have other drawbacks.

Elitist.8701:

Im gonna delete my first post.. honestly I actually liked the video when I first saw it, I was under the impression that Ross was really bad but it turns out his rotations and awareness were decent. I just kinda followed the hate train after BlackDevil came in. I apologize to the OP for all the shots I may have fired.

No problem Eli, thanks for being a cool dude either way. ;D

StickerHappy.8052:

SobeSoul.6910:

StickerHappy.8052:

SobeSoul.6910:

I don’t mind some instant casts in the game. I play with rifle engie and can kinda anticipate OS against other engies based on where they are in context to me. I don’t like how warriors are so easy to play against because they’re so telegraphable, and I don’t think making all abilities have telegraphs would make the gameplay slower and clunkier like it did with warrior. On the other hand, I do see why spamming headshot, interrupt mantra, and OS can be annoying and frustrating to others.

HS is annoying why? you can spam it.

Interrupt Mantra? Every use has a mini cd, AND Don’t forget the recharge.

Regardless of it’s 4s CD (maybe it is 5) it along with other stuff doesn’t have much counterplay besides random dodges. Like I said, I don’t mind it that much, but can see why it bothers other players.

The recharge is counterplay? 2.5 seconds the mesmer is vulnerable to all types of CC. Isn’t that called counterplay? Mantra has only 2 charges, the mesmer needs to be super accurate to use it on important skills to make sure it is not wasted.

Thief Headshot on the other hand… As long as you have initiative…spam it all the way…

Pretty much change the title of this thread to

“To many thieves, not enough telegraphs”

;D

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-How-to-make-a-half-decent-vid/first

Have a read through this, it should help.

Bunda.2691:

Been out of the loop for a while, but it seems as if there’s not a lot of love for phantasm builds these days. Is there are reason no one generally talks about them much? Have they dropped out of the meta? Or were they never really vaible in PvP and WvW to begin with? What gives?

Phantasm builds are inherently flawed because of phant AI and mass amounts of enemy aoe spam (including raw cleave aa). (Metabattle is testing a full DPS phant build atm)

At best I came up with Phantrupt (see sig) which alleviate the issue (utilizing iDuelist range, and high respawn uptime through traited pistol and OH sword). Couple this with blocks, rupts, daze/stuns, CS, and it can work in a DPS role. It’s not meta though (tornament meta) and only works in a general play level.

It’s widely held that Mes only has IP shatter (with portal) in the meta. Though there’s strong arguments that mes is completely out of the meta.

Currently, as of right now, Mesmers are calling for universal buffs to Mesmer in almost every aspect (with, perhaps, the exception of IP shatter, except in a vs thief scenario).

MailMail.6534:

Elitist.8701:

Average gameplay, assuming of course that average player is not very good. Blackdevil is right, you just spam phantasms on people that can’t dodge. I wish I could face you in a match man, because there isn’t a good thief in any of your videos. A good thief would shut you down.

Wait, I’m really confused on how summoning phantasms is a knock against Ross’ gameplay. Do you guys understand how dps phantasm builds work??? LOL

Also, a good thief would shut ANY Mesmer down (including you), so stating such is always a moot point.

Relax MM. Fact is, I’ve never overstated my ability, nor this builds. These guys might have some good points to make, but they constantly loose it in their over stated, unreasonable, and unnecessary criticisms. A few posts up you’ll see me get penalized for attacking targets that are unaware of me. As though a player is only “good” in a team based conquest mode, on a burst setup, if they’re running to 1v1 an opponent who is fully aware of them and can see all their casts and attacks coming. Meanwhile every serious thief and shatter burst mes knows the strategic advantage, and power of attacking someone by surprise. It’s not just smart play, it’s bare basic playing to win.

Its great to see them pull out the bias card across the forums on people and yet be so blind to the bias of their own blatant attitudes. And guys, again, this isn’t saying you don’t have anything constructive to bring to the table, but you drop the ball constantly in ways like this. But that’s ok, there’s always room for improvement.

Fay.2357:

eozturk.7205:

@Fay. When clones started to getting benefit from toughness of the character? I remember it was vitality instead toughness.

MtD shatter works. What makes people doesn’t want to play it, lack of mobility that Power-Shatter offers and quite squishy compared to other condition builds in the game.

Vitality has never affected illusions, only toughness.

^ This

ASP.8093:

Ross Biddle.2367:

I’ve all but abandoned my mes in large scale. It’s just more rewarding playing the zerk staff ele.

Well, large scale is such a horrific laggy mess right now that I try my kitten dest not to contribute to it at all.

(In all seriousness, though, I’ve found a niche I like in WvW, and that’s a ranged-heavy havoc team. We also provide fire support in ZvZ, picking off anyone who’s out of position. So I basically get to enjoy every aspect of WvW running a dirty havoc build.)

Ok, this I can accept. I’ve head up the sniper team in my guild raid too. All power mes/rangers/and whatever trash classes are at play such as engies :p

ASP.8093:

Menaka.5092:

• Babysitting
• Thinking with portals in the new meta

It’s hard to tell without stepping through in slow motion, but Triumphant Distortion does seem to be helping quite a bit — pretty sure I saw one phantasm actually last long enough to attack twice?

TD will kick in and spare you randomly, and let your iZerker get a round off. Two though? I mean, I thought of the iZerker getting a spin off, and then a second however many seconds later. My following thought was my full zerk staff ele dropping a meteor storm with rock hitting 5 targets for 5k damage on the lower end -_-u.

I’ve all but abandoned my mes in large scale. It’s just more rewarding playing the zerk staff ele.