I won’t be grinding crystals. They’ll become more and more just like my laurels.
And now … with +1 magic find and +2 gold find I will be un stop able !
Mwahahahahaaaaa.
Seriously, I will craft one set for one character for sure. Most likely my Elementalist.
A new celectial look would have been awesome, but oh well.
Edit: celectial? soon coming with an s to a crafter near you.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
I’m not really sure what the recovery pack for 300 gems is … but food for thought:
BL keys are sold for 125 or 5 for 450.
One (single) booster is somewhere from 75-150.
The chest can pretty much contain everything, so even if you don’t get the ultra-special item, or the booster you “wanted” you likely on average still get a perceived “good deal”.
If you change those prices you kinda want to change the keys too. Now all over sudden the “jump” to an 500-800 gem outfit may seem steep …
All in all I tend to think in $10-20 per month and all these extra single use items I get kinda end up only clogging my bank space.
I doubt it would make people spend more real money if they lowered those prices.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
You know, I was really surprised reading that they are doing something with housing. Not what I imagined but nevertheless, so … let’s keep our fingers crossed.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
When I saw the announcement a few minutes after it came out here I took a peek – 913k.
Around 7k the first day and another 6k so far – if it keeps up like that the goal should be reached in two weeks.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
Nonsense. Here, bring me a new subscriber and you get a pen. Or the next 10 magazines free, or a calculator – this type of advertising has been around for a looong time. You host the sales-party, be it plastic utensils or undergarnments – bring all your friends, you get 10% off.
This is just spreading the word, nothing more nothing less.
Not that I am personally fond of facebook in any case, but that’s a different story. If it helps them to get some new customers I’ll be happy.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
Esplen – just a quick question, how do you factor in the low demand, according to spidy.
Let’s just say the jetpack – supply 67, demand over 300
Monocles combined – supply 47 – demand 72
I don’t mind either way, I know I certainly won’t buy either at those prices, but shouldn’t the demand be higher for the monocles or are they just being filled since they currently still drop?
Drop rate and also the amount of people running the dungeon. Molten Alliance Dungeon had a LOT MORE people running it on a daily basis (and finishing it) as opposed to Aetherblade Retreat. I don’t have exact numbers on this, but you can tell based on the complaints that most people are giving to get an idea of the people NOT doing the dungeon (out of the small forum community).
Ok, but that should mean that the demand for the monocles should be higher, no?
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
Esplen – just a quick question, how do you factor in the low demand, according to spidy.
Let’s just say the jetpack – supply 67, demand over 300
Monocles combined – supply 47 – demand 72
I don’t mind either way, I know I certainly won’t buy either at those prices, but shouldn’t the demand be higher for the monocles or are they just being filled since they currently still drop?
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
That says people only do the minimum. You can get up to 15 per day. That makes it about 58 days. Also, there is the monthly achievements for up to 110 a month. Factor that in an it’s about 51 days. Under two months for the same number of points as content that has spanned nearly 9 months.
I’m not going to argue that those events didn’t span 9 months – but if you take the extreme – don’t you think that those types of people already completed all the regular achievements anyways?
Many will press themselves to unlock things as quickly as possible, yes. But by including the daily it will press more people into grinding the extra daily categories just to get there. It already isn’t, unfortunately, ‘play how you like’. It hasn’t been for a long time.
Yes, the idea here is that just by playing you will typically complete the daily anyways. While the system is not perfect I think it is very close. Do people chose to visit low level maps to complete the dailies first so as to not miss them in case they have to go offline? Yes, absolutely. We already had that discussion in regards to laurels.
And what about people who start playing now? If the scale is set including dailies, the rewards will require many, many days to get the good stuff. So a new player that hits all the other content will need to wait a long time to grind out their dailies just to catch up instead of just doing the content as is.
They have a chance to catch up even faster then without. Plus if you compare that with the veteran rewards in other games for subscribing for a year etc … I think that’s fair. You decide on your pace – be it like me with 5 points a day – or the “achiever” with 15 points per day.
Unfortunately, no matter what we do someone will feel screwed by it. And even with good intentions, we get accused of elitism and general kitteny.
I don’t feel screwed and I’m not calling anyone anything. I just don’t think it makes sense. Not from the average player’s perspective and certainly not from Anet’s business point of view.
I am sure that Anet will know that hanging the carrot too high does not help, maybe I’m just too optimistic when it comes to that.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
(…)
I am not trying to deny things from anyone. But look at the situation this way. Right now, for those at the upper end of the scale (people well above me) over/about half of their achievement points come from dailies. As the game progresses more and more of their points will be from then. At that point is it ‘Achievement Rewards’ or ‘Daily Achievement Rewards’. At that point all that will really matter is the dailies. And that would be a shame if that is all that the system devolved into. How many days you did your daily.
(…)
As to the last point. Jealousy. Yeah. I don’t care who does or does not have certain armour. If I like armor I will go for it. If I don’t, I won’t. I don’t care about having something someone else can’t get. That’s terribly anti-social behaviour I disdain in all. As I keep saying, my suggestion is not to exclude. It is simply to try to get people to try out more stuff not necessarily in PvE.
While this is a noble goal I don’t think this is the right way, you have to give people options and choices. Not everyone wants to create a character from every race to get all the points there, not everyone wants to get 250000 WvW kills.
Don’t underestimate the pressure that many people will put on themselves. Even now many will likely try to do all daily achievements and will try to complete all achievements they haven’t looked at before – just to speed up the process. People who don’t want to slay 1000 ettins have the choice not to – and that I think is a way better option.
It will be way more of a perceived grind if you would remove the dailies.
You can’t say you are excluding anyone if you leave the daily – all it could potentially do is prolong the time. You would however exclude people if you remove them – that would not be “play how you like” anymore at all.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
(…)You want to force people to log in every day for 1-2 hours to do dailies to keep their scores up with everyone else instead of being able to casually play and finish the actual achievements whenever they want.
That’s basically what this thread comes down to. we have the elitists who think they are better than everyone else because they can play every day and get points from dailies to artificially inflate their scores and we have the rest of the players who think that we should remove that and have a level playing field for everyone where only the things you actually accomplish should count towards this system.
That way a new player can slowly earn the points he/she needs by doing the achievements and putting in the work. They can never do dailies for the days before they played so they can never obtain the same number of points as veterans.
What exactly are we talking about here right now? I would almost agree with the Leaderboards although it’s hardly worth talking about that since there is no “reward” at all – unless you like to see your name on number 1.
When it comes to the new reward system I’m expecting a mix, some rewards for finishing certain categories, some rewards for the overall score. This will be a set score, I don’t know, let’s say at 1000 points, then at 2000, next at 5000, 10000 etc.
The finite number will only get so high – I never counted, maybe someone knows what that number is – the wiki says for example 622 points for the slayer. So there could be potentially one reward locked – thinking of giants here – for finishing this category.
Other then that I’ve said my piece in my previous post here, I still don’t understand why A-net should limit us in terms of getting those points while limiting their own options.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
Jump.
Shoot 3 mobs (quickly loot with AOE looting on).
Activate Rocket Boots in mid air.
Reload your gun.
Dodge the tree you were about to hit.
Quick Jump Shot to get above the tree line.
Unfold Experimental Gliding Kit. Warning: Experimental Gliding Kit has a 20% chance to explode each second. Why? Because engineers blow stuff up all the time.
Due to Experimental Gliding Kit being bugged you have to log out in order to land. Or wait until it explodes.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
The top character is wearing Seer armor (I think the staff is new). The second screenshot shows a guy with a CoF chest piece, but it looks like new shoulders, helmet and maybe gloves.
I hear ya, similar to the other (“radiant”?) armour – helmet, shoulders, gloves.
Chest and legs starting at 20k points – hehe, we’ll see.
Yes, I would love to see complete sets as well.
Edit: You know what else I would love to see? Profession sets – thinking of my guardian and the starter “ankh” themed shoulder and helm …
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
I hope the “new armor” described is really a new full armor set, not just new shoulder pads or new gloves. Those never fit properly with the great majority of armor sets currently in the game.
I’d say they are showing us both armour sets in the pictures and one of the weapons.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
If there would be a cap on dailies/monthlies – should there be a cap for living story and holidays as well?
Some other companies work with “veteran” rewards, be a subscriber for a year – get a shiny. Should they also cap that and say after 3 years no more?
I don’t particularly understand the reasoning. No matter what number A-net will throw out there I will know that I will get there. Would you rather force me to do content that I am not fond of?
Just examples – let’s say I’m missing on another 100 points but the only thing left for me is fractals – so I have to do that up to level 40? Frustrate me at this one JP I cannot do for the life of me? 250.000 kills in WvW?
That is definitely not “play the way you want”.
I do see the problem of the “weekend warrior” coming up again similar to the laurels. I could imagine letting us make up for a week – but if the idea is to distribute the players time-wise then this is a better system.
No one is locked out of anything – it’s just a matter of time.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
The main difference in the big picture will be the living story. If you miss it or if you don’t do … let’s say the dungeon you easy miss ~100 achievement points. Leave the daily/monthly as it is – it will make people less likely to feel “forced” to do certain content they maybe don’t want to do.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
Like I stated above, you could only obtain that via temporary content. Temporary content that is no longer available. Meaning you can’t get it anymore.
So as I stated, you can ONLY get an Ascended backpack from Fractals.
I would say you can ONLY get an ascended backpack right NOW. Might even change again in three days, eh?
In other words, you can look at it just as another form of time gate.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
(…)
The Backpack can only be obtained via doing Fractals for the Vial and Gift. You can’t craft it without doing Fractals. So you can’t get that solo.(…)
I never raided, which is more of a time-commitment issue for me then anything else, and I most likely won’t raid here. But I think it can only be beneficial for the game.
Housing! Can’t remember the last time I visited a home-instance.
Housing!
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
The quiver might be a bit more into the red spectrum (for a brown), but I’ll wager if you just remove the dye from your invader vest you will have a brown that will work fine with it.
“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
