Oh please, the pugging scene is miles ahead of where it was months ago. Now I actually get a partially decent group every 1 out of 10 rolls in the LFG roulette!
At least most of you don’t have to put up with light field spamming guardians that then go “Y U no gief might ele?” or mesmers that attempt to perma reflect Subject Alpha’s “wide array” of projectile attacks and complain about people not stacking in a corner over a month past the feature patch.
Also if I had a penny for everytime a pick-up says “did it get bugged???” after a Bjarl kill where somebody spams rocks.
What about thieves that believe the only group-wide stealth they have is Shadow Refuge, I mean I too wouldn’t use Black Powder in a pick-up with people I don’t know but you could at least show that you’re aware that blasting a smoke field will yield Area Stealth by putting down Smoke Screen. There’s also the occasional thief from <insert associated top tier speedclearing guild> that insists on utilizing Black Powder as a smoke field in PUGs with group comps that severely lack blast finishers (warriors, guardians, necromancers, rangers and mesmers OP field blasters).
And trying to reason with these people? Preposterous! You’ll find yourself outside of the dungeon you were in right in the following second for either being an ‘elitist zerk jerk’ who inquires as to why a healing guardian has joined a LFG post that specifically asked for ‘zerk’ builds or a scrubby pug who dares question their superior knowledgeThere are 2 key components to successful pugging:
1. Patience, beyond that of a saint;
2. Accept that 99 times out of 100 you’ll have to carry most of your group members or put up with their shenanigans;
(Oh wait actually there’s 3)
3. Be inserted into one of the categories described above and keep living happily in ignorance!
- hug *
I fractal, then maybe a fractal with a side of fractals. I know, I know, im crazy :]
Ugh.. I always get annoyed at PUGs who try res while having agro and even ranges who have a pet that has agro and is on top of or near a downed player. Makes it imposable to help res..
It just makes me sad to see so many good people leaving.
Wake up ANet….you’re killing yourselves….so much potential, such a great launch, and then….pbbbbt.
>.< horrable thought!!!
They arent killing themselves. . They are filtering out people who arent in line with their content goals..
Reading this thread is making me sad…
Endgame is totally fine, though. ANet should pat themselves on their backs.
Hehe you have used that link before :p
Although your right also I still believe anet says fractals are a dungeon when they feel like it and when it helps them out, otherwise no its no
Whats annoying is people either dont know what " active defence " is or what its about. And in top of that, alot of people think its only for coordinated groups.
New zealand timing, yup thats me!!
In other news I need to do a info thingy for myself as I feel I need one. So Ill try write something up after work.
Edit, just gona add a old link to my sig, its my shy way of introducing myself
Sarah
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+1 for the instabilitily where mai trin follows me around all of Tyria <3 <3
Dont worry mai, Ill portect you!
I dont know how to respond to this
Aww. Ill see what I can do, are you on Na by any chance?
I have work in about 15min so I cant help just yet, although Ill see what I can conjuor up in about 4hrs time when I finish work.
Sarah
I can honestly say the rewards for fractals and the rng of the levels isnt as bad as everyone is making them out too be. They are fine rewards for the most part with " minior " things that could be improved..
As much as I would love to talk about changes and see them happen, its not gona happen when all thats prefered is " better" rewards.
Sarah
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18IHVJao5j85KOp6lBTOgO8qs4VYD3Xty-jKPZo8o-Q4/pubhtml
I don’t see how you can perceive these drop rates to be anything near reasonable.
1494 chests opened at 41+ and no tonic?
3,55% chance of getting a fractal skin, with a total chance of 0,19% of getting the weapon skin you actually want?On top of this the gold reward is a joke and uninfused rings still drop.
Thanks for the reply, I may not have the numbers although im sure lots of people have done 1494+ world bosses and not gotten a precuser.
Coming back to fractals, compairing the gold / rewards to stuff that can be done in like a 10th of the time.. well.. I dont believe thats a fair jugdement.
I will agree with you about the uninfused rings dropping passed 29, and I can kinda see your point about the " getting the weapon skin you actully want" although things need to be alittle rng, do you want to be able to choose the rare/extoics you want every time it rolls for you to get one?
I know, I know, anet said they would have a merchant were you could spent the tokens you get on rewards you really wanted, although thats what makes fractals special, makes the skins and the tonic soo rare. Being able to buy the tonic, Im still being used to the idea.. I dont want to lose its rare-ness. I understand being about to trade you skins you have for others you dont; although I hate the idea of spending relics ( of any kind ) on just buying them.
Sarah
I can honestly say the rewards for fractals and the rng of the levels isnt as bad as everyone is making them out too be. They are fine rewards for the most part with " minior " things that could be improved..
As much as I would love to talk about changes and see them happen, its not gona happen when all thats prefered is " better" rewards.
Sarah
Omg you sound adorable!! Can I take you home?
Come fractal with me sometime ppppllllzzzz
Sarah
Dont forget duffy from the urban fractal!!
Not really a dugeon person, although this did sound interesting. I basicly only have one character though so I wish you all the luck
Edit: if I had to rate myself out of 10 ( 1 being " noob " and 10 being " zerk, zerk, speed, speed ")
I would give myself a 4.
I dont really know cm very well and as for arah.. well Ive just played follow the leader with family and friends. I do remember some of the minor bosses tbough.
Sarah
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Bet we get a second fractal CDI before we get 51+.
I like this. Here is mine:
Bet we would get a remake of FF7 before anet gives us 51+
Even anet doesnt know if fractals is a " dungeon " or not.
There is no vender, it doesnt count towards dungeon achi/dailies/mothlies and yet, when someone else ( non-anet) says that since release their has been lots of dungeon paths added and list fractals as a example; anet agrees with them.
Fractals are a " dungeon " when anet feels like it :/
That was the biggest change/improvement thing I wanted with fractals but the only thing people cared about was the reward system.. =/
I think anet should use our strats agaisnt us, if the npcs buff themselfs, blind, use reflects and other " active defence’ and even if some of them rushed us with the old FGS . . . . Well.. I geuss the game would become too hard for most people and alot of people would complain..
Ha!
:)
Now I sound elitest!
Hiya,
My name is sarah, and if you happen to be on a Na server, I can help run some fractals with you. I really do enjoy fractals and I love teaching them also. If / when your keen to give them another go, and when your level 80 let me know!!
Sarah
So much fun. I almost feel compelled to do fotm just for more chances to do this again… but I need to be with likeminded individuals
I agree, I would also love to try this!
Funny thing that, she is also a forum friend right?
- just being cheacky, remember I said I wanted to run with all the forum friends *
Sometimes I wish I did fotm and actually had a clue what’s the fuss is all about in this solo. What makes this solo special?
He was techincal about how he did it aswell that was great.
( ok ready for my really really bad mes knowledge and spelling? )
His curtian? Move that pulls to the line was placed to postion the boss in the same spot for the whole fight as well as to reflect the projetiles
He had waited and kepted a cool head when the boss had his sheild up, and was hitting it off while being mindfull of his postion. He moved out of harms way and when he did this he was mostly infront and took a breather as he waited for it to be both saver and for the boss to catch up.
Of course being a mes, he had alest one of him under the boss all the time, which greatly helped. This cheacked the ai and he would preform those two moves: the one were he gains some hight and knocks you back and the swooping move which deals massive dmg.
Because of that new achi, the reward could just be something ( something ) like 100 bonus tokens for doing the daily dungeon thingy.
It would be the dungeon tokens from that dungeon of course.
Q.Q Everyone just leave fractals alone!
fractals didn’t do anything Q.Qsorry bad reference.. Ill sit in my corner now..
gives Sarah a hug
Aww how adorable. Thank you
@dlonie.6547 ohh so you do still play eh? Well if your on Na you must come fractal with me! If I need a reason, its bascicly cause I wanta run with all you forum friends
Sarah
Q.Q Everyone just leave fractals alone!
fractals didn’t do anything Q.Q
sorry bad reference.. Ill sit in my corner now..
invites have been sent welcome to the guild!
Thats both amazing and inspiring
Sarah
(ps: sorry about spelling )
>.< am I the only " veteran " ( as you call it ) fractal’er than doesnt mind the rewards? I love fractals, And I dont mind the rewards..
Although I love them, they do need work. I also want to see some changes in them, just never got around to putting in down. Besides.. the rewards seem to be the biggest topic / thing people want changed.
Morning,
No offense, you sound like a broken record with the " make your own group " anyway..
@anet I believe its about time for another " tip " for the tips tab:
Can you make, making a " lfg post " and getting it fulled up a tip. I know alot of people will cheese this tip although I believe this makes enough sense that enough people will make there own group for a dungeon/whatever.
Maybe you could add something in your letters when peole first become of age ( level ) about making a lfg aswell. Im sure you could favour it well. =]
Sarah
hi to all, i want to discuss a option for the trend of people who sells the path, that i tink is pure antigaming and i hope someone do something, like the impossibility to give or receive money when you are into a dungeon.
I am both tried and have a headache, although please explain why this is “antigaming”
Ill read your reply after I have a rest. See you then
O.o looks like things are on the move =]
In terms of helping other players and getting rewarded, you will have to look both inward, and at the your students for that.
Im not going to sit here re-typing what you said about anet, you already know they arent going to reward you.
Youll need to find your buzz about helping others: weither you hold on to the romatic idea behind it, whiteknight it or just do it cause you feel like it. I do hope you find your insperation again =]
Which is the following: dungeon selling makes no good for community. You can advocate for ‘party leader’ feature and honestly you will get my support on that, but advocating for dungeon selling is very selfish.
I can repeat it in every post to make it crystal clear.You guys should stop attacking me personally. It wont work – I am immune to trolls.
By “the community” you mean only people like you, right? Because there is plenty of buyers (some prefer to play wvw or PvP ONLY) but they want the tokens or achievements.
I have had people buying paths from me on a regular basis. They do not wish to do the dungeon. All they want is either tokens, achievements or leveling their alts. But then you show up and say that they have no right to do this. Its you who is being self righteous and wanting them to have no access to that content.I never said you have no rights to sell dungeons. What I am saying is that you hardly have any right to demand some feature to be developed to support dungeon selling.
You have people wanting to buy dungeon paths from you? Awesome! Why you people crying on forums about hijacking your dungeons then? What you do and what you using LFG for is basically a scamming.
Either its too early in the morning or you are just holding a grugde.
I take it you or a friend were hurt/scamed and/or your holding on to a bad stigma about dungeon sellers.
Sarah
Hehe cute,
Ive been a fractal teacher for while now.. I started like 6months back? Although I was unstable to say the least, things happened and I lost all heart.. ANYWAY.. im feeling better now so, even though its probly not the best time, im gona see what I can do =]
Sarah
hiya!
you know….
we need a big combined thread in the " player helping player " section
A big wooden notice board graphic picture with all our names and details on bits of paper pined up to the notice board.
don’t you think that would be awesome? both all the mentors here at noob and RagingDragon & Dramen, all together in one community notice board
Sarah
hiya!
you know….
we need a big combined thread in the " player helping player " section
A big wooden notice board graphic picture with all our names and details on bits of paper pined up to the notice board.
don’t you think that would be awesome? both you guys and noob, all together in one community notice board
Sarah
er.. um.. anyone else a little jelly that vee wee gets her own thread :p
Snip
:) Its a fine line isn’t? this game with the two side of the coin as you will.. I do enjoy this talk though, Ill look out for it now. I am aware of it and will see what I can do, although it will/would be more on the fractal side of things =]
I don’t mind dungeon selling.
All I want to understand is this: " Sellers make no good for community "
I believe its false, but I want to understand why you think thisDungeon selling is OK when its limited to a certain niche. Its a nice convenience feature for those with money to spare (myself included btw).
But if I open Arah LFG and all I see is 5 dungeon selling groups + Arah story group – this is NOT OK. This means that majority of players cannot experience content even if they want to.
And that exactly how it was up until the recent patch.
I don’t mean to move your words around and/or play with them or anything although to better understand it you are saying:
" The reason its not ok is because majority of players cannot experience content even if they want to"
so your trying to say there isn’t as much choice?
like a few people doing path 1, some others doing path 2, etc, etc? so you would have a choice in joining a path you don’t know and/or understand to experience it and work on it?
I guess you could mean, inexperience players might feel like they have to buy into it?
with all the selling as you say, people might think that you can do story but the other paths have to be brought because of [reason]. And they may never find out what the reason is, even if its stupid?
again, please don’t take this the wrong way, just trying to understand
I don’t mind dungeon selling.
All I want to understand is this: " Sellers make no good for community "
I believe its false, but I want to understand why you think this
In terms of helping people I just cling onto the romatic side of the idea. Its just good for you.
We need a sticky for a more casual/PHIW/RP version of [Noob]. Dramen’s [ARES] thread is close, but ARES is becoming less of a dungeon-focused guild and can only serve NA.
Before this gets twisted and flamed, I’m not saying Noob isn’t friendly — just that there are a lot of players that don’t want to run metabuilds with speedclear techniques.
Anyone know of a casual (preferably cross-server) dungeon oriented guilds out there want to step up and take this on?
:0 is this your opinion of noob?
I always believed it was more like a list and/or a comuninty notice board as you will. This huge wooden board full will all these papers attched to it saying
" teaching dungeons x,z,k "
Well this is a romatic look at, this was the intent of it. A easy-to-find list of people to go to for help. I can know there are a few people on the list that dont teach " meta " I guess they are low in numbers or shy like me.
Sarah
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Dungeon-Mentors-Noob/first
While you and many others wait for the work to be done, Come see us and talk to a mentor!
You dont even need to join, feel fee to use our mentor list like a commmunity notice board.
Sarah
Pritty good in the pve, in fractals 50, my nades are hitting for 1k each with 12 stacks of might with food and such
Just did another scale of the twenties in fractals and my coin reward at the end was 3 copper! ^^ (This was like my 3rd run in this scale)
Sarah
hiya,
go with zerk,
My reason is: if you get lucky enough to get a ascended gear box, 90% of them can be celestial.
sarah
I do think its neat that he is trying to make a name for himself ( something I would like to have, being a fractal mentor ) although they way he talks sometimes makes his post alittle hard to read.
Sarah
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Dungeon-Mentors-Noob/first
Here you will find more of a comunity notice board and/or list of people both " mentors" and " students" who are either offering their help or asking for it.
You are more than welcome to ask around for tips, help and make a group for any dungeon and skill level. You dont need to be a member, it was more to make things easier to run.
They will not ask for anything in return for their help, its free for everyone, all I ask is that you respect them as people: They have real life stuff too, so they might not respond straight away. Give it alittle time, they will respond to you as soon as they are able.
Sarah