Guild Wars 2

-sees this thread praising something about Anet-

-sees nothing negative has been posted to try and counter it-

o.O

-passes out from extreme shock-

Thobek.1730:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

Oh no!
Someone has something good to say about the Living Story… About /SCARLET!/
Quick! Every naysayer come in and shout out their opinion /yet again!/ This horse hasn’t been beaten quite to glue yet!!!!

Sarcasm aside, what exactly are you are expecting? Shakespeare level writing for characters in an MMO?
Scarlet /is/ a comic book villain. Explaining how or why she does the things she does is akin to asking how the Joker manages to get enough explosives inside a building to threaten to blow it up without anyone seeming to notice. If anything, she makes more sense then the Joker ever does because at least in Tyria, you really /can/ use ‘magic’ to do all sorts of things (like oh… I dunno… combine things that don’t normally go together… Like Oakhearts and Clockwork…)

As for the cinematic itself… I liked it. Just as I liked Scarlet as a Joker-esque villain. That’s my opinion, which makes it just as valid as anyone elses here (minus the constant vitriol aimed at the Developers. :P)

Maybe Anet is targetting people like you – the easily pleased.

I’d rather be ‘easily pleased’ then ‘constantly angry’ and ‘eternally disappointed’ like many forum posters here. (Thanks for the subtle shot at me, btw…)

GW2 is hardly a perfect game, but at least I can enjoy it enough to continue playing it instead of coming to the forums and going on and on about the parts I don’t like. Basically doing the equivalent of ‘Talking over’ and drowning out anyone that has something good to say is a constant tactic I see repeated on these threads.

What started out as the OP saying ‘I really like the final cinematic…’ all too quickly became yet another ‘I HATE SCARLET!!’ type thread for absolutely no reason other than to take a few more thinly veiled shots at the developers writing ability.
Haters will hate, I guess… Right? :p

P.S. I was going to go much more in depth on why Scarlet has a lot more depth then you seem to think. But it’s pretty clear people have made up their minds on the subject, for good or ill.
I’m not going to waste my time (or yours) explaining it and trying to go against the general agenda of some people here have to bash Anet and GW2 every chance they get.

Celestina.2894:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

Oh no!
Someone has something good to say about the Living Story… About /SCARLET!/
Quick! Every naysayer come in and shout out their opinion /yet again!/ This horse hasn’t been beaten quite to glue yet!!!!

Sarcasm aside, what exactly are you are expecting? Shakespeare level writing for characters in an MMO?
Scarlet /is/ a comic book villain. Explaining how or why she does the things she does is akin to asking how the Joker manages to get enough explosives inside a building to threaten to blow it up without anyone seeming to notice. If anything, she makes more sense then the Joker ever does because at least in Tyria, you really /can/ use ‘magic’ to do all sorts of things (like oh… I dunno… combine things that don’t normally go together… Like Oakhearts and Clockwork…)

As for the cinematic itself… I liked it. Just as I liked Scarlet as a Joker-esque villain. That’s my opinion, which makes it just as valid as anyone elses here (minus the constant vitriol aimed at the Developers. :P)

To be fair, in the universe Joker exists in, you can use magic as well.

You have a point about magic in the DC universe. However, I don’t ever recall the Joker ever being able to use it.

Oh no!
Someone has something good to say about the Living Story… About /SCARLET!/
Quick! Every naysayer come in and shout out their opinion /yet again!/ This horse hasn’t been beaten quite to glue yet!!!!

Sarcasm aside, what exactly are you are expecting? Shakespeare level writing for characters in an MMO?
Scarlet /is/ a comic book villain. Explaining how or why she does the things she does is akin to asking how the Joker manages to get enough explosives inside a building to threaten to blow it up without anyone seeming to notice. If anything, she makes more sense then the Joker ever does because at least in Tyria, you really /can/ use ‘magic’ to do all sorts of things (like oh… I dunno… combine things that don’t normally go together… Like Oakhearts and Clockwork…)

As for the cinematic itself… I liked it. Just as I liked Scarlet as a Joker-esque villain. That’s my opinion, which makes it just as valid as anyone elses here (minus the constant vitriol aimed at the Developers. :P)

First and foremost…
Solo-able =/= Easy
The ascent up the tower is difficult and a fairly good challenge. I found it to be on the same level of difficulty as Orr or even Southsun, if you are running around alone. Know when to use your skills, learn when to dodge, and learn when to engage enemies and when to run from them.
If you are up for that kind of challenge, then this will be right up your alley.
If all you want is a faceroll, then perhaps you might want to go back to Queensdale…

Personally, I enjoyed the trip to the top of the tower and feel that is is in fact, very solo-able (Champions not withstanding… Every open world zone has Champions…)
The fact that this is an open map, instead of a solo/small team instance, makes it pretty much inevitable that you might run into other people. If thats your problem… if having other people around in an MMORPG offends your sensibilities in some way, then quite frankly, I don’t know what to say…

Secondly…
Despite what I said above, can someone point out where the developers said it was going to be /entirely/ solo-friendly?
I’ve been looking at the Game Release Notes and can find no such statement. In fact, this is what I do see…

The interior of the Tower of Nightmares has been revealed, and it is as deadly as its name suggests. The Tower of Nightmares is an open-world map designed to challenge even the hardiest of groups. Fighting side by side, players will need to rely on each other to survive.

Only mention of solo-able stuff comes in the next part about the Nightmare Chamber instances…

The Nightmare Chamber instances are designed for either solo or group play and are comprised of a number of random elements. Each time a player enters a chamber, there is a chance to see something, or someone, different. But is any of it real?

So… am I missing something? Seems pretty clear to me…

Verbal abuse in-game shouldn’t need to be tolerated.
Report, block, and then finish the event, and to hell with what they want to scream at you.
Angry little people like that aren’t worth anymore of your time after that.

Erukk.1408:

Qawsada.4251:

Jeff.4680:

I don’t understand how the same people that wrote the plot, quest dialogues, and backstory in Guild Wars could produce something such as Scarlet, but I’m really hoping to be proven otherwise.

They were not written by the same person from Guild Wars 1. The person in charge of writing most of the living story and Scarlet is Angel McCoy. She is also in charge of making the game less “human centric”. How was this accomplish? By screwing up GW 1 and making them insignificant. At the same time, she favor the Sylvari race by adding that abomination of Scarlet into the game. Here is a interesting link in regard to Angel and how she is destroying GW 1.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Angel-McCoy-Interview

You make it sound like Angel is the only writer on GW, and all her decisions are final. And if you read that entire interview, and the follow up since we complained so much, you would have read that the information she gave was approved by the other writers.

“I completely understand the outrage some of you feel, thinking that I’ve retconned things in a vacuum. I’d like to give you some peace of mind. Prior to my sending it off, the interview you read received a thumbs up from Bobby Stein, Ree Soesbee, Jeff Grubb, and Scott McGough. I do not work in a bubble, and if I’m releasing that much lore, then I’m going to do my best to ensure I’m getting it right. And it definitely feels like I’m sticking my neck out in the effort. No pressure. Hehe.”

All the writers approved that lore, and they are all using it. Angel is the only one getting flack for it, is because she was the one that gave the interview on the matter.

Remember something else too.
People like making scapegoats.
I quite frankly don’t envy Angel being in the position she’s in, dealing with an online community like this one. (Really, I suppose it’s not much worse then most other online communities. But obnoxious is still obnoxious.)

Draknar.5748:

Another GW2 isn’t like GW1 and therefore is boring and/or bad thread? Sheesh…

And yet they still have enough will to come here and bash GW2 in as public a way as possible… Yep…

Force.8632:

Hey Guys,

I Guild Wars 2 dying?

No, it is not.
Despite what the naysayers would like everyone to believe.

Nice opinion. Mines different then yours.
I logged in and took a look at them on my character.
I like how they look.
shrug

Keep the finishers in PvE.
I actually like the added level of combat that it provides and something else to think about while you are maneuvering, fighting, using abilities, etc.
I /don’t/ think a downed state should be added to /everything/ though.
I think with this update, they (perhaps inadvertently) managed to find a balance for it.
The Toxic Nightmare Court sylvari have a downed state. However, the Toxic krait do not, so not every enemy needs to be stomped into the ground.
Some of the suggestions in these threads are interesting, though I do have to wonder what the point of giving Champion down states would be.
It just makes little sense for a Champion level creature, that can take on an army of heroes (I use that word loosely…) to be finished off by one guy who just happened to be lucky enough to be the first to stab a flag into him. Let Champions fight to their bitter end… You could say it’s part of their ‘Defiance’…
It makes more sense to be a racial thing. Sentient/humanoid races make sense in this aspect, while animal/monstrous creatures should not.

(P.S. Because I feel like I should add this disclaimer… All of this is just my opinion… not trying to hammer this over anybodies head here, unlike some other people in these forums. :p)

On Tarnished Coast, the Chains of Duty Role Play Guild [RPcd] does their weekly pilgrimage to the gates of Arah every Wednesday at noon, server time. They take any level character around with them too.
It’s not really a leisurely stroll, since they hit up nearly every Dynamic Event along the way, but it is an RP event (though, they don’t mind if you don’t RP and just tag along. Just don’t be disruptive…)
If you ever do it though and want to do the entire thing, set aside the whole day… Their pilgrimages have taken as long as 14 hours. x.x

No. It does not.

Wouldn’t mind seeing more wing back pieces in the game.
Would love to see capes as well. However, I know that capes are a pain in the kitten for programmers since the game engine would just want to have them clip down through your character model. This becomes exceedingly obvious and problematic for Charr character models since they are hunched over, even when standing still, and thats not even taking into account when they run.
Also, I’m not entirely sure that the backpiece slot is really good for capes, as is. It’s rather low on the back for most character models, where as capes drape down over the back from around the shoulders.
One possible compromise could be a single smaller cape coming off of a shoulder piece. It could naturally, and more easily drape around the side of a character model, even a Charr, rather then just clip straight through it.
Anyway, more back piece options are always great.
Whether you like them or not is subjective opinion.
Whether you like them on other characters around you or not is irrelevant. Because you know… that whole multiplayer online game thing…

Overall, it’s a fairly good story instance, but I do wonder… Is it supposed to be a purely solo instance?
I was trying to do it with a friend earlier, but it never gave us the option and we ended up in our own instance.
Is that working as intended? And if so, then I must ask why? It’s not exceptionally hard to complete on your own, though it might take a little longer if you are on a lower level toon, but is there any particular reason that you couldn’t have friends with you?
Just curious as to why if this was created this way on purpose…

Don’t mind it at all. And as some has said, it helps add a bit into PvE combat. A fine change by me.

Don’t know. Still too busy enjoying Guild Wars 2 to think about a possible sequel.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Jski.6180:

Xae Isareth.1364:

^ I think your mistaking the playerbase and the forums.

Ya these forums are not that best places to even talk about the GW2 community. As for in game most of the non overflow zones are full of nice ppl. Now say wvw where there a lot of stress you can see the bad side of ppl when the fight is very close or when your side is losing badly.

WvW is competitive, humans don’t like losing. That’s why it brings out the worst in people.

Healthy competition is good, and should be encouraged.
Bad attitudes kill that very quickly, and unfortunately, there are those that seem to get off on being jacktards to other people while hiding behind their computer monitors.
Unfortunately, there is little that can be done about these angry little people… Short of game companies hiring full time ‘Referees’ to watch PvP areas. Which, I won’t hold my breath on ever happening.

goldenwing.8473:

It’s a term that boors use to attempt to make themselves feel better about their build and gear choice (usually cookie cutter FoTM) while claiming that other players who do not play exactly as they do have no skill.

It’s also a clear signal indicating that the player using said term needs to be ignored.

^
This, basically.

I recall back on City of Heroes we had similar problems when it came to Super Groups. If someone came in and stole everything out of the SG’s storage bins, we were basically S.o.L.
It kind of makes me wonder about the hard-coding that goes into those aspects of the game that makes it hard to let customer support help…
On the other hand, I can see how it can be abused as well, so… Double-edged sword really.

Congratulations, you baited me into saying one more thing…
-slow claps-

Stat padding? Seriously?
From people who likely have no interest in PvP outside of getting those APs, if that?
A flimsy straw to grasp, to say the least.

Sorry to break it to you, but repeating your -opinion- (and thats exactly what it is, regardless of what you want to believe) ad nauseam does not make you any less wrong.
But go ahead, keep name-calling.
Maybe that will help keep those PvP areas nice and empty.

AntiGw.9367:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

AntiGw.9367:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

Were they holding up others who wanted to use that arena?
Was there no other open arenas for people to use?
Where they making it so that ‘real PvPers’ couldn’t be their jolly old selves.

The answer is no, they were not.

The answer is that all that is irrelevant.

Oh but it’s quite relevant.
If they were doing any one of those things, then you could have at least some basis for an argument against what they were doing.
As it is, you do not.

All that is irrelevant, because cheating does not depend on any of that. No excuses make it any less cheating. What they were doing was cheating.

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

AntiGw.9367:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

The only thing they were doing was playing the in a way that you don’t happen to agree with.

Too bad for that, eh?

The only thing they were doing is trying to evade PvP in a live PvP arena to achieve a PvP objective. Out of all full maps they chose to go to the one where they would never actually fight players. Cheaters.

I think Aerlen has summed it up in the post above yours…

Aerlen.5326:

Toxic attitudes like yours are the reason many people avoid PvP. All I’ve seen you cry is “it’s cheating when I say so but other things which are also cheating the game are not cheating because I say so and people should not play the game the way they want to because it upsets me because for some reason, PvP is sacred.”

At this point, you have made it very clear that anyone who isn’t playing the game the way you want is ‘cheating’, regardless of what anyone else says about it.
But thank you very much for once again showing why I generally avoid PvP. I guess I’m ‘cheating’ because I would rather avoid being verbally abused and treated like garbage…

“Not playing the game my way” is not cheating. Going into a secluded PvP area with your friends to farm each other without actually fighting is cheating. See the difference?

No, the only thing I keep seeing is you name-calling because people aren’t playing the game the way you want.
Candy coat it however you care to, but that’s what you are doing while trying to ram your opinion over my head.

I’m just going to assume at this point the only thing you are doing is trying to get the last word in on an argument by continually baiting the same nonsense over and over.
So I’m going to finish this by simply saying, if they were truly cheating, then they should have been reported to Anet for such.
Not have a thread opened up about it on the forums for the angry PvPers to come here and QQ about how their ‘sacred PvP’ was being desecrated by filthy little PvEers looking to avoid the crappy attitudes, bile and venom that tend to all too often get spewed around when players fight against other players.

As far as I’m concerned, this conversation is done.

AntiGw.9367:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

Were they holding up others who wanted to use that arena?
Was there no other open arenas for people to use?
Where they making it so that ‘real PvPers’ couldn’t be their jolly old selves.

The answer is no, they were not.

The answer is that all that is irrelevant.

Oh but it’s quite relevant.
If they were doing any one of those things, then you could have at least some basis for an argument against what they were doing.
As it is, you do not.

AntiGw.9367:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

The only thing they were doing was playing the in a way that you don’t happen to agree with.

Too bad for that, eh?

The only thing they were doing is trying to evade PvP in a live PvP arena to achieve a PvP objective. Out of all full maps they chose to go to the one where they would never actually fight players. Cheaters.

I think Aerlen has summed it up in the post above yours…

Aerlen.5326:

Toxic attitudes like yours are the reason many people avoid PvP. All I’ve seen you cry is “it’s cheating when I say so but other things which are also cheating the game are not cheating because I say so and people should not play the game the way they want to because it upsets me because for some reason, PvP is sacred.”

At this point, you have made it very clear that anyone who isn’t playing the game the way you want is ‘cheating’, regardless of what anyone else says about it.
But thank you very much for once again showing why I generally avoid PvP. I guess I’m ‘cheating’ because I would rather avoid being verbally abused and treated like garbage…

… which leads to this…

@danielrjones
I would honestly /love/ to believe that the majority of players who partake in PvP do so in a friendly way in the full spirit of healthy competition.
That it was just some little minority of of obnoxious 12-year olds who get off on making other people unhappy and treating them like garbage simply because they can get away with it over the internet, that are ruining things for the greater majority.
Honestly and truly, I would…
But after 10+ years of being insulted, verbally abused, shouted at and threatened from everything to having my game account hacked to my very /life/ (yes, I honest to god wish I was exaggerating on that one!)… you’ll just have to pardon me for being jaded…
The games are different. The names change. But the attitudes and endless oceans of hostility I have encountered have been the same every friggen time…

To make it clear, yes, I know for a fact that the same obnoxious griefers are in PvE as well. The difference is I can ignore them there, without having to worry about them trying to gank me because I hurt their itty-bitty egos…

AntiGw.9367:

ozmaniandevil.6805:

AntiGw.9367:

ozmaniandevil.6805:

Again, I don’t see why people have to be all kittened-off about stuff that has no effect on them. Maybe some people think it would be FUN to stomp their FRIENDS with halloween stuff in PvP. Heaven forbid people should have FUN in a game.

Personally, when I realized the dailies count toward the meta, I decided to stay out of PvP. If I get a chance to stomp some players in WvW, great! If not, I’ll get the meta anyway. I’m thankful… oh so thankful… that the JP is not required, since those are truly excruciating for me… like really… I’d rather be killed 100 times over in PvP.

However, please… there are enough things (seemingly) to complain about in this game. This does not need to be one of them.

“It doesn’t affect you” is a typical argument of a cheater.

You are aware that the point of PvP is to kill other players, that you go there to competitively fight other players, not to farm each other. If you don’t accept rules, terms of service or anything like that, stay away from anything that has such rules.

I kinda think you did.

Just because I do not agree with your point of view does not make me a “cheater”. I try to look at things from different points of view, and I do respect everyone’s opinion and that they are certainly welcome to express it. But please do not assume you know anything about how I play or what kind of person I am.

I BELIEVE that if people are having fun stomping their friends in PvP and it does not harm your enjoyment, then there is no real issue. I BELIEVE that Anet wants people to enjoy playing this game and that maybe some people take it too seriously.

I think I didn’t. I’m just explaining the nature of the argument you use.

If people are having fun stomping their friends, they can go to custom arenas and do just that. When they enter a live arena, they should either fight or gtfo and play Hello Kitty Online.

Were they holding up others who wanted to use that arena?
Was there no other open arenas for people to use?
Where they making it so that ‘real PvPers’ couldn’t be their jolly old selves.

The answer is no, they were not.
The only thing they were doing was playing the in a way that you don’t happen to agree with.

Too bad for that, eh?

Exosferatu.2961:

I normally play PvE and World vs World. Yesterday I tried to get my A Stomping Good Time achievement in sPvP. I did not know I was supposed to capture a point and one guy told me to “Capture the point you idiot.” And my experience in sPvP is kind of like the community of Call of Duty where people are quite friendly.

I wish ‘idiot’ was the worst I have heard in PvP…
I also wish the oh so ‘friendly’ people would just go back to Call of Duty and League of Legends and stay there.

The only way that this should ever be an issue at all is if the PvP server instances were all full, and people were waiting for one to open up.
And I can say that has never been the case when I have looked at them.
Again, I see no problem with what these people are doing.
They are effecting nobody but themselves.

From what I have seen so far on this thread, people are basically complaining that they are ruining the ‘spirit’ of sPvP. While it’s a valid opinion… it’s just that. An opinion. One that I, and many others on this thread, don’t agree with…

Personally? I applaud the people who want to play the game their way, whether that includes dealing with PvP or not. I would rather they do their thing on an empty PvP server then deal with the /real/ cheaters who use speed and zoom hacks in WvW.

Last, but certainly not least, I can hardly blame people for not wanting to touch PvP. The reputation it has gained through the people that do it is hardly welcoming. Is it a fair reputation?
Probably not.
But I can say from personal experience spanning over a decade of playing various online games and generally being treated like crap by ‘leet PvPers’ that it sure feels like it…

Pariah.8506:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

So… let me see if I understand this…
People are going into a server that isn’t being used anyway and are fighting/farming/whatever each other.
This effects you… how? This is detrimental to the game… how?
No exploits being used. No breaking of the ToS. No hacking of the game.

I don’t see any problems here…

I think it undermines how on can show off his rank.
On one hand you have the PvPer that goes through thick and thin and builds up rank which he is identified and respected by by strangers and on the other hand you have the guys that stand around naked taking turns killing each other attaining the same rank in a couple of days of excessive grinding.

In the end it devalues any meaning and prestige of PvP rank rendering it worthless.
IMO this isn’t a huge issue in the game but I can certainly see how people can get aggravated over it.

Truth be told I could see how some people might get aggravated over it… But as others have pointed out in this thread, it’s doubtful they are doing it for Glory, as opposed to just doing it for AP and Dailies.
In either event, why make a big deal out of it?
As for ‘showing off rank’, yes, I suppose that can be seen that way. But as also been said earlier… Their /rank does not effect anyone else.

So… let me see if I understand this…
People are going into a server that isn’t being used anyway and are fighting/farming/whatever each other.
This effects you… how? This is detrimental to the game… how?
No exploits being used. No breaking of the ToS. No hacking of the game.

I don’t see any problems here…

I think these forums are full of an unnecessary amount of spewed bile and venom.
And /HEAVEN/ forbid someone come in with an opposing view or, even worse, actually support something the developers do…
But, that’s the internet for you…

From the way that the OP has put it, along with some others on this thread, you’d think that the game was so broken that it would destroy your computer just by logging in. :P

More seriously though… Opinions. We all have them. And without going into a point by point rebuttal, my opinion is this game is far from broken.
Perfect? Hardly. It’s got it’s share of problems just like any other game. (The biggest of which I personally think is the people who ‘What is /all/ and want it /NAO!/’)
Game is dead and full of nothing but farmers?
That is so far from what I have seen I have to wonder if we are even playing the same game… Perhaps you need to find a more active guild? Or possibly move to a higher population server?
Don’t get me wrong, Tarnished Coast has it’s share of Champ Trains and Dungeon Speed Runners… but rarely have I been anywhere and found the place ‘dead’ as you put it.

So, there’s my 2 copper. Take it or leave it.

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

I will delete my account (with 4 legendaries) and set fire to my game disks if they kittening bring the old ones back…

Why on earth would you do that? o_O

IndigoSundown.5419:

Opinions are like kittenholes. Everyone has them, and some of them stink.

This sums it up quite nicely.
Some people like PvP. Some people don’t.
Personally, I think it has a place in MMO’s just like PvE does. There really is nothing wrong with healthy competition in an online game…
As for player attitudes… Immature players just tend to be more glaringly obvious there then in PvE. Not saying that there aren’t bad players in PvE. Quite the opposite. But, in PvE, it’s a lot easier to simply ignore them, while in PvP, it’s harder to ignore the person who is not only acting like a total jacktard, but constantly gunning for you and trying to kill you as well…

@Aisina
A well written post that pretty clearly defines a problem that is… unfortunately… not easy to come up with a solution.
Anet can tweak, work and modify things in their game until the cows come home. But all the tweaking of their game will never solve the problem of bad players…
By bad players, I’m not talking about unskilled or inexperienced or even people who make an honest mistake here and there (Hey, nobody is perfect…)
I’m talking about trolls and griefers who seem to get off on making other people unhappy and knowing that there are really no repercussions for their actions because they are hiding behind their computer monitors in their mommys basement.
I am of the opinion that these players are also often the loudest and most vocal whiners when things don’t go their way and someone does manage to ruin their idea of ‘fun’… but that’s more supposition on my part…

I’m reminded of the days back on City of Heroes ( R.I.P. CoX… such a great game… ) when our end-game raiding consisted of doing of of two things…
Attacking the Rikti Mothership or Hamidon…
Both required more then a little bit of coordination and a lot of people to do… Especially Hamidon… Yeesh!

Okay, I digress… (Remembering fondly the great game that was City of Heroes/Villains always makes me wax-poetic…) but the point remains… What can we really do about ‘Sir Herpalot’ and those like him? It seems like any tools we as players are given to ‘police our own’ can so easily be used against us by the very trolls they would be put in place to try and help curb…

Big congrats to the guys on Desolation that pulled it off! Seriously, way to go!

Morbridae.8607:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

So according to that chart… The tallest human can be just about the same height (or in fact a little taller) then the shortest norn…

Well, in real life we only have one race: human. And we got “normal” people so tall as 2.20 m and so small as 1.50 m. And, if you look for some extreme cases (people abnormally tall , towering at 2.70 m, and people very small , with a bare 54 cm), then you can see the great variety that members of a race can have.

So, isn’t really too frightening that the “tallest” of a “small” race can be taller than the “smallest” of a “tall” race, isn’kitten

No, not frightening at all.
Just an interesting observation on a topic that /isn’t/ all anger, rage, bile and venom… unlike so many other threads in these forums…
It’s rather nice, actually.

Sylv.5324:

I think that ANet’s real problem is that a lot of people have gone from making suggestions, or sharing opinions, to outright getting angry or scornful when they tell ANet what to do and ANet doesn’t do that (quickly enough).

If people want to tell ANet folks what to do, then maybe they need to get off their computer chairs, set down the cheetos, roll their sleeves up, apply for a job at ANet, and work their way up until they can, in fact, tell people there what to do. Until then, folks should stop acting entitled and then get enraged when their whims are not indulged.

This goes for every game, really. The harassment and know-it-all-ness of folks has gotten extreme. Even I have some issues with some of what’s been released and wish they could release other stuff sooner (really a lot of GW1 features that I feel should have made it into this one— the ones that have are great), but sharing that doesn’t mean I need to get all nasty about it.

People are really invested in GW2 failing. ‘Oh, this game is small!’ It isn’t. ’It’s dying!’ It’s not. ‘It would be successful if they only followed my advice!’ They are already successful. ‘Oh but I love the game—’ No. You don’t treat things you love like crap and you don’t treat the people behind them like crap. That’s just basic human courtesy and I don’t know why it’s gotten trendy to nowadays act like e-thugs.

tl;dr – OP and the community in general these last few years is part of the problem. ANet is not perfect, their product is not perfect, but no game is and no game ever will be. Suggest what you think might help in a polite manner, and if they continue to not create the product you like, vote with your wallet.

It’s a shame I can only give this post one thumbs up…

CoRtex.2157:

The thing is, GW2 is not a big game, it had a big launch because of marketing, but the game itself has not alot of players. Why would you want to grow is not really the question, its about, why is the game growing so slow? The rate of which your game is growing at, is a representation of how good your game is. Which is like the most important thing as a game developer,, knowing that you actually made a good game. So far, gw2 isnt doing that well. Btw, it doesnt take a good game to make money, it only takes good marketing and kids that dont know what good games are.

You know, I hear this a lot…
‘GW2 isn’t doing well…’
Uhh… Really? So, all those North American servers that read at least ‘High’ and ‘Very High’ populations at any given time must just be a deception from Anet to try and hide how low the game population really is, or they are /really/ small servers that can’t handle a lot of people?
o.O

I think overall I have missed… maybe one or two? Gives me a goal to work towards when I log in, the extra XP for my lower level alts is nice, and getting rewarded for stuff I do anyway is always good.

Villious.8530:

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

Villious.8530:

How can u be against silly names, when the legendary short bow shoots my little ponies. The legendary mace is a disco ball. Fuzzy animal backpacks. The game has “silly” built in.

You’d be surprised. I think.. A couple of weeks after release, I was in Fireheart Rise and I was having trouble with an SP. I asked in map chat if someone could help me, and somone literally told me because I didn’t have an RP Orientated name, they were unwanting to even help me, and they actually mocked me about it.

Of course, someone else basically told him to eff off for that, and he started saying, “Lol you’re kitten because I’m not going to help you so you called your friends” and yeah.. It was pretty.. I wouldn’t call it anything like traumatising, but it was just pathetic behaviour.

I know. I hate running into people like that. Funny thing is, I pity them, and wonder what made them like that. Though I think most of it is just “Internet anonymity”. If they acted that way in public, theres a good chance they’d get their kitten’s whipped.

That ‘Internet anonymity’ thing seriously brings out the very worst in a lot of people. Seriously, listen in on the mental 12 year olds that play Call of Duty or League of Legends (or any other PvP-centric game for that matter…)
Pity there is so little that can apparently be done about it though…

I myself like giving my characters at least mostly serious names… A norn named ‘Elltenia DelGanus’ (which is one of my alts names, btw) might not be rightly lore-friendly for a norn, but it’s a name I made up long before I started playing this game, so… yeah I kept it.

As for others? Eh, what they name their characters is completely up to them. So long as it’s not offensive (and there are some that can get pretty creative with that sort of thing…) then let them have at it.

OP, my suggestion (if you are still reading this) is to try GW2 again, since it seems you already have bought the game.
If you like it, great! Enjoy the game! Work towards permanently transferring over to the server your friend is on as others have suggested here.
If it’s not your cup of tea, then nothing lost and I hope you find a game you like.
At the end of the day, the only opinion that matters is your own.

I neither like nor hate Trahearne.
He is a character that gets thrust into a position that he seemed to not want to be in. I personally rationalize him being so flat and emotionless sometimes because he’s coping with being in a position that’s pretty far outside his comfort zone. -shrugs-

I also realize from a game point of view that it’s better to let an NPC like Trahearne (or anyone else besides the player character) become the supreme commander of the Pact. Otherwise, /everyone/ in the game that goes through the Personal Story becomes the single Supreme Commander… Which wouldn’t make any sense at all…
(It’s a lot like hearing someone boasting about how they killed Zhaitan in character. My character would look at them funny… But I digress…)
Back on track, I never feel like Trahearne stole any thunder from me. His Wylde Hunt was the cleansing of Orr. /Not/ the destruction of the Elder Dragon… That task was for us (the player characters) and if we failed at that, then his mission would fail…

I guess in the end, I wasn’t playing the entire invasion of Orr campaign looking for glory and to be a hero. My character had a job to do, and she did it. The restoration of Orr can be done by Trahearne and he can go back to his comfort zone of being a scholar while I go after the next challenge that arises…

Anyway, that’s my 2 copper…

Looks like it could be interesting. Can’t wait to see how hackers, exploiters, griefers and the like will find ways to break this!

Death Diablos.6702:

What happened here? o.O

Same thing that usually happens here in the forums…
Opinions gets shoved in peoples faces and people make darn sure that everyone knows how superior their opinions are to everyone elses…
:P

Tellerion.8102:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Zanthrax.6538:

Best pvp dodge ive ever seen…..I dont see this game ever getting pvp to a competitive level now….god kittening dammit

Can’t blame him for that, considering how toxic the PvP community is, no offense.

Maybe there’s a valid reason for it being so toxic?

Yeah. Because PvPers make it that way no matter what Developers do.

Nuka Cola.8520:

notice how many thousands of players asking for gvg while devs show more stupid zerging

Funny. All I saw was a lot of childish spamming from the same people over and over that made reading anything worthwhile impossible…

ilr.9675:

I run more healing or vitality in my Dungeon mains than I run power…. And I’ve been lucky to never be kicked once despite that. So I’m not a Gear Checker…

That said…. If the rest of the team finds a Pugger who’s new to the run after this update, and DOESN’T have an AW as their mainhand Melee… I will /votekick on the spot b/c they definitely will not be competitive with the rest of us who all will have crafted either a Zerker or Assassin’s mainhand by that time.

I don’t mind carrying guildies. But I’m absolutely not going to carry puggers and I won’t expect anyone else to either. Anyone who thinks that’s elitist, go ask the rest of the dungeon forum if I’m exaggerating. I guarantee they’ll tell you exact same if not worse.

Wow… Just wow…
Thanks for pointing out why I don’t PUG… I like to enjoy my game, not deal with attitudes like this.

Zero Day.2594:

why are they adding that bump?

Why not? It’s another goal that people can (or wont) strive for as they see fit.

Yalora Istairiea.6287:

People who constantly whine, cry and complain in the forums. You know the type that when you take a look at a majority of their posts they are constantly spewing their self-obsessed ire to all who will listen. These are the ones who lack the wherewithal to contribute constructive criticism in a well thought, logical and considerate manner.

The ones who consider their one line sophomoric witticisms to be the epitome of all that is wrong with the game and admonishing ANet, with statements of “It’s that easy, Done!”, when they have absolutely now clue the objective complexity of the situation beyond their Me Me Me/Now mentality.

Gawd, I am such a Whiner

This about sums it up…
Oh gawd! I’m a whiner too! XD