It is not just Mag. I got stuck into a wall quite a few time before by a DH pull. It’s the collision algorithm that is part of the problem I guess.
A man with one arm isn’t going to make it to the MLB, regardless of how much he loves baseball. It doesn’t change the fact he can still be respected tremendously by the baseball community and be an inspiration to other people for playing well in a lesser league.
You need to look up Jim Abbott. He’s one of less than 300 people that have thrown a no hitter in MLB. He didn’t demand people make accommodations for him despite being born with 1 hand, he stepped up and showed them what he could do.
Hell the opposing teams would specifically try hitting it to him hoping he couldn’t get his glove on in time, but he would snatch up the ball, pull the glove off with his arm pit, and throw it to first before they could run it.That’s what happens when a person puts in the effort instead of sitting around complaining that the world owes them something.
It’s funny because I was thinking that a pitcher could possibly do this, but I said to myself at the time of writing the above, “nah, I doubt that’s happened.”
Does not detract from the point; these things can be overcome if and when one doesn’t hide behind one’s shortcomings as an excuse not to do better.
I agree that we all should strive to overcome as much as we can, but lets be careful not to see excuses everywhere. Sometimes, excuses are actually legitimate explanations that we don’t want to see or acknowledge.
Also, let’s refrain using anecdotes to make comparisons and generalize. The quasi totality of anecdotes you can read on the Interwebs (that you can boil down to, X could do it, what is your excuse not to) are full of cherry picking that make the comparison completely invalid when you take a closer look into it.
If someone can do something that seems extraordinary, that 99 out of 100 can’t or won’t, you can be pretty sure that there is something you lack to understanding what is required to operate a comparison on a common denominator. Any other kind of comparison is kitten.
That being said, nobody has to play with people they do not want to play, including squad leaders that can kick whoever they care. People, including commanders asking for voice com, should stick with what they have power over and let go of the rest.
There was this really hilarious one on last night that would just spam dodges non-stop. 3 dodges, Signet of Agility, 2 more dodges, Channeled Vigor, 2 more dodges, then smoke cloud spam. Oh, and with Sigil’s of Energy on weapons for more dodges.
Like, I could stealth and take two steps back and just watch him go to town on nothing.
He was also wearing Dire or Trailblazer so he took forever to kill, but since he blew all his cooldowns on thin air it wasn’t a big deal. The kicker is that, if he got 2 stacks of bleed on me from one of those dodges, I’d die if I didn’t clear it. That means that if I had to clear condis once, getting hit a second time meant certain death. If the guy had any idea what he was doing, it would have been really annoying.
Did you mean two ticks? I’ve come against heavy two ticker bleeders but not two stackers.
More than likely 2 ticks (and I can believe 2 is enough to down some builds). 2 stacks is nothing special.
It’s not discrimination. It is rewarding those who’ve played wvw for years. Why should new players, who might leave wvw altogether when they have their rewards, get the same amount of pips as those loyal to the game mode?
I welcome everyone new to wvw, and hope you find it fun, but you have to earn your ranks and rewards like the rest of us. Wvw has been neglected for ages, so it is past time for those of us playing this game mode to get something from it.
Please remember, someone else’s rank doesn’t take away from your fun and rewards. Stick with wvw and you’ll get there soon enough yourself!
It is discrimination. It is a fact.
However, it doesn’t bother me that much since it is also a reward for the veteran in a context where the rewards are merely exotic and ascended skins as opposed to an exclusive tier of equipment.
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Anet,
The recent WvW focused patch was great with one exception. I feel the pip rewards are too high and max out the skirmish tickets much too quickly for WvW focused players. I consider myself a casual player of moderate WvW rank; however, because my focus is on WvW, I am able to max out my skirmish tickets by Sunday with minimal effort and time commitment.
I know I am not alone in this situation because with very casual playtime my entire guild maxes our rewards by the end of the weekend. After that we are just waiting for reset so we can collect more tickets.
As it stands now, I simply log in to play with my guild and rotate leading private raids with some of our other commanders. Lowering the pip rewards might even inspire me to put up a public commander tag and lead a zeg in glorious siege filled battle, vanquishing enemies on the borderlands and conquering keeps. I might even allow rangers into such raids!
Please consider my modest proposal of lowering the pip rewards for all WvW players. I would even suggest a minimal WvW rank before pips could be earned. Rank 500 seems quite reasonable to me. It can be reached with very little effort by even the most casual WvW player.
Your perception is waaaay off if you consider yourself a casual player when you can reach max ticket within two days and with minimal efforts. It takes several WW hours each days to do that unless you play like map hopping parasite continuously.
I play WvW since the beginning of the game and I’m only rank 3000ish (No EoTM and a lot of solo time). That means I have a base pip gain of 4. I played all weekend exclusively in WvW and I’ve reached Diamond chest completion yesterday (can’t play as much in week days). I’m not a casual even if I play much less than I used to.
If you’ve reached Diamond completion before me while having a lower base pip gain you are no casual. If you have a higher WvW ranking than I do, you are no casual. At least not to me.
Imagine people who have 1 or 2 pip gain at base. It requires them a lot more time to get the same thing and they likely do not have as much time to invest in the game to begin with.
Beside, I don’t want more tags that are motivated by the extra pip only. It is not good for the game mode to have tags that have that kind of motivation.
I’ve been on CD for maybe a year now through all types of fluctuations and i stay because i love it. It’s home. both my self and my guild even if we are small have poured our hearts into CD. Tonight a blanket statement was made by someone i respect that’s a major voice on CD even if that respect only goes in one direction. That if you don’t use TS than your not an asset because you aren’t really helping. I’m sure a lot of people feel that way. I know its a big help in wvw. But it was really the first time in a year i felt like wow kitten my server.
Even if we were roamers which we aren’t we are a small ops guild of seasoned vets that responds to all major calls from tags and larger guilds for aid. I feel like that’s a pretty big kitten you to people that put in time and effort but don’t use TS. I guess i just needed to vent because if I didn’t i was gonna seethe about it until i moved my entire guild to a new server.
Sorry, but its just ridiculous to say something like that. The fact is, I flip towers and camps and I also kill ennemies REGARDLESS of my being or not on voice com. Doing those things help my server regardless of how angry you are.
I even assit tags when I’m around and, most of the time, I think it is worth it for the tag to have me even when I’m not on voice com.
I get the frusttration of being a commander. I really do. But, from my perspective, it is you that give a pretty big Kitten you to people who carry their weight, and more, in an autonomous manner. The success of a server also largely depend on it’s ability to conduct simultaneous attacks by your smaller autonomous groups rather than just carry one huge blobosaurus.
Asking for all to be on voice com is an utopia. It never happened and will never happen for a lot of legitimate reasons. Get over it. or just get mad forever…
What you have control over, and that you can make sure of, is that only those that are on voice com are allowed in your squad. The rest is beyond your reach.
I’m a regular too and I think everything is fine as it is.
I will also have my diamond chest this week before the end of the week and guess what? It changes nothing.
If you were playing that game before because you enjoyed it, it also shouldn’t matter one bit. The game is still the same, you just get an additional reward as you play.
Beside, that there is a limit to what you can get each week prevent you from burning through everything so fast and then complain that there is nothing left to do.
It is already bad enough to see all these players hoping map to find outnumbered ones just before a tick. If you can reach diamond by playing naturally, it will limit the amount of players that will feel “forced” to use such pathetic strategies.
I’m fine with the requirement since it is not a tier of armor we are speaking of, but merely a skin.
Not gonna lie but you sound very emotionally fragile OP. Maybe gaming in a competitive environment isn’t for you, the same could also be said for the rest of your ilk.
Coz we the majority are quite frankly tired of your collective whining.
“We the majority” ? Someone has an inflated sense of self-importance.
Beside, aren’t you “whining” yourself about him “whining”?
1. Tempest – zerker (Air/Water/Tempest)/Backline zergling – Suicide solo roamer/Staff
2. Bowl of sweet and spicy butternut squash soup
3. Healing glyph/mist form/armor of earth/Lightning flash/Tornado
4. Because it is a very good backline build that is fun to use with lightning rod and very challenging (stupid?) to solo roam with.
@vove.2768
Out of curiosity, which build(s) are you normally playing when you get this whisper grief?
Why would you wanna know that? what does that even have to do with the OP?
Ur asking for trouble m8. No matter what you run it doesn’t justify toxic comments.
Because he’s somehow reached a block list limit that none of us even knew existed, and him running a cheesy tell build could explain that and all of the gate whispers he’s getting.
For most people this isn’t a problem.
Oh I knew it had a limit, it’s a pretty high limit but still. It also crashes your game when you check it every now and then when you reach said limit. I know this as I have a friend who blocks anyone who types in French, needless to say when mega servers hit he reached the limit pretty fast.
Whaat? Why? What can he have against French speaking people?
He dislikes the language and I’m guessing has a low opinion of them as a nation often saying they’re very arrogant. Regardless he isn’t hurting or adversely affecting anyone with what he’s doing so I don’t really care.
Tell your friend that speaking French doesn’t mean you are necessarily from France.
Canadian French is fake French, it’s a blasphemy to even call it French
Does your reasoning extend to North American English being fake english and a blasphemy to even call it English? Just curious…
Americans do not speak English, they speak a kittenised version of English.
A language is a living thing. It evolve to reflect a culture and what has shaped it.
To us, French from France sounds weird/amusing, and from their perspective it is the same. Same for English, same for Spanish etc.
Beside, what is “true” English? If that language was a cat, it would be the most kittenized cat you can imagine. Would still be a legit cat that many would affectionnate for what it is.
What is true English? This has to be silliest thing I’ve ever seen you put.
If only there was some country this language was named after which makes adjustments and updates the language in some kind of official manner.
Oh, so you naively think a language legitimacy is dictated by a bunch of scholar and not how the population choose to communicate? Thats cute.
Have you taken a good look into all the new words and expressions that were added into your language the last few years? Are these new additions not legit to you? Why do youy think they were added?
I can appreciate the effort of the “Academy de la langue Française” when they want to call a t-shirt a “gaminet”, but if they are the only one to use that word to designate a t-shirt it will have zero value in the end (save a good laugh ofc). Hence why t-shirt is a french word too now since quite some time.
BTW, French speaking people from France are actually using a lot (more) of useless english-words than we do despite having perfectly viable words originating from their own language. Nobody where I come from ever say they do footing pour aller au drugstore. We say, nous allons marcher pour nous rendre à la pharmacie.
A language is alive. Sure, you want conventions to facilitate communication, but it’s the people who will decide what becomes of it in the end. And there is nothing wrong with that if it works for all who are implied. That’s why you have French from France and French from elsewhere… The roots are acknowledged, but what you make of them is the population’s business and history.
People hating on these differences is their business, but not making a lot of sense in the light of that language history. Might as well dish on all languages that derived from Latin while we are at it.
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@vove.2768
Out of curiosity, which build(s) are you normally playing when you get this whisper grief?
Why would you wanna know that? what does that even have to do with the OP?
Ur asking for trouble m8. No matter what you run it doesn’t justify toxic comments.
Because he’s somehow reached a block list limit that none of us even knew existed, and him running a cheesy tell build could explain that and all of the gate whispers he’s getting.
For most people this isn’t a problem.
Oh I knew it had a limit, it’s a pretty high limit but still. It also crashes your game when you check it every now and then when you reach said limit. I know this as I have a friend who blocks anyone who types in French, needless to say when mega servers hit he reached the limit pretty fast.
Whaat? Why? What can he have against French speaking people?
He dislikes the language and I’m guessing has a low opinion of them as a nation often saying they’re very arrogant. Regardless he isn’t hurting or adversely affecting anyone with what he’s doing so I don’t really care.
Tell your friend that speaking French doesn’t mean you are necessarily from France.
Canadian French is fake French, it’s a blasphemy to even call it French
Does your reasoning extend to North American English being fake english and a blasphemy to even call it English? Just curious…
Americans do not speak English, they speak a kittenised version of English.
Very true, they speak a very perverted heretical form of English. Just to name a few -
their inability to spell over the years caused them to alter the spelling of some English words (i.e. color instead of colour). They also don’t have a posh accent like a true English speaking lady or gentleman, and instead sound like some street kittens.It’s blasphemy and punishable by the Gods to call it English
Because English from Britain is pure, right? Was never “contaminated” by anything outside of it?
If you look into that “pure” language, you will see just how many colors/colours your cat actually has. Are you eating cow tonight? No, you eat beef, a French influence steaming from the word “boeuf”.
Every languages are so touched. ALL of them. The only way to preserve a so called “purity” is to live in a bubble and even so…
Just learn to open-up a bit and you might find out just how interesting these variations can be. Of course, ignorance is a choice too I guess…
@vove.2768
Out of curiosity, which build(s) are you normally playing when you get this whisper grief?
Why would you wanna know that? what does that even have to do with the OP?
Ur asking for trouble m8. No matter what you run it doesn’t justify toxic comments.
Because he’s somehow reached a block list limit that none of us even knew existed, and him running a cheesy tell build could explain that and all of the gate whispers he’s getting.
For most people this isn’t a problem.
Oh I knew it had a limit, it’s a pretty high limit but still. It also crashes your game when you check it every now and then when you reach said limit. I know this as I have a friend who blocks anyone who types in French, needless to say when mega servers hit he reached the limit pretty fast.
Whaat? Why? What can he have against French speaking people?
He dislikes the language and I’m guessing has a low opinion of them as a nation often saying they’re very arrogant. Regardless he isn’t hurting or adversely affecting anyone with what he’s doing so I don’t really care.
Tell your friend that speaking French doesn’t mean you are necessarily from France.
Canadian French is fake French, it’s a blasphemy to even call it French
Does your reasoning extend to North American English being fake english and a blasphemy to even call it English? Just curious…
Americans do not speak English, they speak a kittenised version of English.
A language is a living thing. It evolve to reflect a culture and what has shaped it.
To us, French from France sounds weird/amusing, and from their perspective it is the same. Same for English, same for Spanish etc.
Beside, what is “true” English? If that language was a cat, it would be the most kittenized cat you can imagine. Would still be a legit cat that many would affectionnate for what it is.
@vove.2768
Out of curiosity, which build(s) are you normally playing when you get this whisper grief?
Why would you wanna know that? what does that even have to do with the OP?
Ur asking for trouble m8. No matter what you run it doesn’t justify toxic comments.
Because he’s somehow reached a block list limit that none of us even knew existed, and him running a cheesy tell build could explain that and all of the gate whispers he’s getting.
For most people this isn’t a problem.
Oh I knew it had a limit, it’s a pretty high limit but still. It also crashes your game when you check it every now and then when you reach said limit. I know this as I have a friend who blocks anyone who types in French, needless to say when mega servers hit he reached the limit pretty fast.
Whaat? Why? What can he have against French speaking people?
He dislikes the language and I’m guessing has a low opinion of them as a nation often saying they’re very arrogant. Regardless he isn’t hurting or adversely affecting anyone with what he’s doing so I don’t really care.
Tell your friend that speaking French doesn’t mean you are necessarily from France.
Canadian French is fake French, it’s a blasphemy to even call it French
Does your reasoning extend to North American English being fake english and a blasphemy to even call it English? Just curious…
To OP,
I appreciate your ideas and always saw a problem with Gliko myself (not just in WvW) and also miss server identity a lot.
That being said, I see a problem with your political analogy.
In politic, it’s ok if everyone vote for the same party. It is even fantastic in many regards. In a game of war, however, you NEED people to wage war against you regardless of how seductive one side seem to be (we can’t all play in the white hat team, there has to be black hat people too). Beside, a server can only accept so many.
Also, if I agree that winning or loosing doesn’t prevent from having fun, what is often the most fun is the game of tug of war between servers of similar strenght.
Weeks where you either dominate or are utterly crushed are usually pretty boring indeed.
In that sense, I would urge players to not be politicians, but intelligent human beings that understand what it takes to have a fun game and act accordingly. Because they are first and foremost, players, not politicians, and players want whatever is fun.
People need to stop caring about winning not even knowing why they want to win, and care more about having great tug of wars.
Winning in a game mode that offers no reward save personnal satisfaction is irrelevant. And satisfaction can be obtained without victory.
TL;DR: Players need to be coherent with their desires.
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I had camera issues too and playing glass really didn’t help me having a fun time while not being able to perceive all that was going around me.
The tight space and camera was definitely annoying. Maybe people with bigger resolution and sturdier builds had less problem, but I can relate to what was shared here.
@vove.2768
Out of curiosity, which build(s) are you normally playing when you get this whisper grief?
Why would you wanna know that? what does that even have to do with the OP?
Ur asking for trouble m8. No matter what you run it doesn’t justify toxic comments.
Because he’s somehow reached a block list limit that none of us even knew existed, and him running a cheesy tell build could explain that and all of the gate whispers he’s getting.
For most people this isn’t a problem.
Oh I knew it had a limit, it’s a pretty high limit but still. It also crashes your game when you check it every now and then when you reach said limit. I know this as I have a friend who blocks anyone who types in French, needless to say when mega servers hit he reached the limit pretty fast.
Whaat? Why? What can he have against French speaking people?
He dislikes the language and I’m guessing has a low opinion of them as a nation often saying they’re very arrogant. Regardless he isn’t hurting or adversely affecting anyone with what he’s doing so I don’t really care.
Tell your friend that speaking French doesn’t mean you are necessarily from France.
@vove.2768
Out of curiosity, which build(s) are you normally playing when you get this whisper grief?
Why would you wanna know that? what does that even have to do with the OP?
Ur asking for trouble m8. No matter what you run it doesn’t justify toxic comments.
Because he’s somehow reached a block list limit that none of us even knew existed, and him running a cheesy tell build could explain that and all of the gate whispers he’s getting.
For most people this isn’t a problem.
Oh I knew it had a limit, it’s a pretty high limit but still. It also crashes your game when you check it every now and then when you reach said limit. I know this as I have a friend who blocks anyone who types in French, needless to say when mega servers hit he reached the limit pretty fast.
Whaat? Why? What can he have against French speaking people?
Hello all GW2 fans…
With all that GW2 and the programmers have to offer and do well, the jumping puzzles IMHO were at best “OK” leveling up to 80 with a few exceptions.
On the level 80 maps and lets just take “the silverwastes” as an example, the jumping puzzles went from fun and challenging (for the most part) too just plain annoying and frustrating with no logic applied where the challenge is nothing but guess work, fail, rinse and repeat.
To make matters worst you cannot ignore them as they are intertwined and not once but often webbed in several achievement side quests. To be in a puzzle where moving left 9.26cm makes the jump and 9.25cm fails is incomprehensible.
The amount of precise jumps required to succeed can be as high as 10 in a row before you get a break towards the next ridiculous set of obstacles. Players actually use another off level 80 character for many of these jumping puzzles to leave it in the area until they succeed.
Its gotta stop. These jumping puzzles are hurting the game. I know there are fans out there that enjoy the sadistic ritual of rinse and repeat for hours on end soooo all the power to ya but for the majority of us who prefer playing the hack and slash this perverted version of Mario Brothers has got to improve. Having a limb support you sometimes and other times not, being able to walk a steep incline and other times not, jumping an absurd height and other times not, jumping blindly in the hopes of hitting your target has no logic, no appeal and is no fun. Where is the intelligent problem solving?
Otherwise make the jumping puzzle stand alone with their achievements and those that wish to deal with the guess work and terrible camera angles and views can do so to their hearts content.
I just cant see what we all need to suffer the poor planning and lack of imagination that these new jumping puzzles now offers us.
best regards;
What is the problem with any kind of puzzle? You aren’t forced to do them nor are you denied an equipment tier if you ignore them.
Just choose to do something else.
The bulk of the salt about Thief comes from WvW, not PvP. PvP thief was never a problem.
It’s in WvW that Thieves/DD too often have a risk/reward ratio that is kittened and a very annoying play style to fight against.
In WvW it is a completely different animal and a lot of the salt there is legitimate IMHO. Not in PvP tho.
kittenty people are everywhere. Just block them and be done with it.
Sorry guys and gals . Can we pls don’t hijack this thread? Not about you can’t get in raids not about your feeling about joinning150li 250li 500li pug raids. Or it opinion about ppl skill on how many li they hv.
Half of the post lost its track.
This is about legendary armour tittle. Thanks .. I hv no interest to discuss anything else on this post.
This was all about legendary armour title btw. I merely argued it was not necessary is all. It is a valid reply to the topic IMHO.
Personnally, I see nothing wrong with a title in itself as long as it doesn’t become yet another dumb tool to discriminate ala 300+ LI. Which is what I’m hearing…
Anet
pls make title and also achievement for making multiple set of legendary armors
just finished making second set, don’t see why I should make another set if there is no achievements or reward of making it. and the only reason to continue to play raids
So raids aren’t even fun enough to justify your time?
I have zero interest in solo roaming either. For me, the beauty of WvW is large-scale combat.
I actually like to do everything in wvw with the same back line staff build. For me it is part of wvw charm to have a bit of everything to offer for everyone.
If you aren’t afraid to die a lot, roaming solo with that build is very stimulating. You are holding your breath all the time knowing you can die in one or two shots from anything that can pop anywhere. Adrenaline rush guaranteed as well as a very good workout. And pretty much anything you manage to do successfully is very rewarding since the risks are so huge.
I think it has to be one of my many use of Tornado at Hills. Either on what I call “the Tornado alley” (bridge to lord) or the cata wall ledge. What glorious moments…
So, if I understand the reasoning, we need to have more LIs than can be possible to acquire with only 2 or 3 boss all year? So, each years, this required total will rise by 150 or so?
How long, knowing you can only ping a stack at a time, before this scheme become absolutely pointless?
Isn’t it better to ask for boss specific decorarions. It is, after all, a better guarantee, no?
Well then you’d have to keep something like Deimos every week, there’s also the RNG of the decorations, you could do it 10 times perfectly and get maybe 15-20 decorations or do it 5 times and get the same number. What is more likely is people will ask to ping legendary armour sets assuming people have 2 sets then some LI. That or CM titles but again you can be carried through it.
There will always be a risk of having been carried, but at least the other metrics are more coherent and practical with what you say you really seek.
And in any event, you will figure it out soon enough if someone doesn’t have sufficient knowledge of the fight or the required rotation.
Actions speaks louder than a mountain of LI.
You are kidding me, right?
What does 400 LI prove that 250 doesn’t in regard to relevant raid experience?
He didn’t wrote anything about 400 LI being superior to 250, he just explained how it works to ping the 400 in detail and added some more info how to prevent chat code & macro users from sneaking into a squad.
I know. I’m just amazed that people would ask to ping stuff the way it was described to try and find out if its really 500 and not just 250.
I mean, why bother at all if the difference between 250 and 300/400/500 is, to me at least, not really relevant.
At the moment you can have legendary armour and probably another 50-100 LI’s and be classed as dead weight to a team. By dead weight I mean fail mechanics constantly and doing very subpar DPS while also reducing raid DPS because they have to rez you all the time. By subpar I don’t mean a DPS role doing 23k DPS, I mean them doing more like 15k or less which means if another dps role is not playing at maximum efficiency or worse still one of the buffers isn’t buffing well you can fail DPS checks that are otherwise very easy.
So yes, while the requirements might seem high the reality is there’s a lot of chaff that’s been carried through raids by organised groups or regular raid groups and they have a large amount of LI.
I do not dispute many are carried (including myself sometimes). I’m seriously questionning the value of LI and how relevant a difference between 250 and 500 really is.
If you are a “dead weight” at 250 LI, having 50 or 100 more likely won’t change much since you already had tons of opportunities to change. Look for other indicators, like missing mechanics, to decide if the player is as experienced as you would like him/her to be. Because if it is true you can have 250 LI and be “dead weight”, you also have several players who have a fraction as many and are already pretty decent for a lot of reasons.
Lets be honest, LI requirement is already lazy. The more LI you have, the less of a difference it should make. Your first 10 LI says more than the 10 coming after. After 150? After 250? Its, IMO, just kittened and elitist in the worst possible way.
Well escort got released almost a year ago so that’s 50 LI you can get while being not even remotely good enough to do harder bosses. Spirit Vale got released 6 months before that, assuming you could get through VG as it’s probably the easiest due to how much people have killed it, that’s another 50-70 LI’s. Salvation pass was released in Jan 2016 so if you did trio every week which also isn’t hard that would be about 60 LI.
Current total for the easiest ones is 170 LI.
Bastion of the penitent has been out for 13 weeks and contains 2-3 bosses that offer very little challenge. Indeed a healer ele can pretty much carry a group through Cairn with them messing up a lot of mechanics. We can make that a round 30 LI assuming you sometimes kill Samarog or it takes you several weeks to realise stack on tail and hit.
Current total for easy low hanging LI is 200.
So the reality is you could just by being poor but getting into a good group that carries you get 250 fairly easily. In order to get 400-500 you must have killed multiple bosses week in week out. That is what people are wanting you to prove with the high LI requirement and what it shows. That or you are incredibly rich in game and have bought all your kills at great expense, something that will quickly become unviable.
So, if I understand the reasoning, we need to have more LIs than can be possible to acquire with only 2 or 3 boss all year? So, each years, this required total will rise by 150 or so?
How long, knowing you can only ping a stack at a time, before this scheme become absolutely pointless?
Isn’t it better to ask for boss specific decorarions. It is, after all, a better guarantee, no?
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You are kidding me, right?
What does 400 LI prove that 250 doesn’t in regard to relevant raid experience?
He didn’t wrote anything about 400 LI being superior to 250, he just explained how it works to ping the 400 in detail and added some more info how to prevent chat code & macro users from sneaking into a squad.
I know. I’m just amazed that people would ask to ping stuff the way it was described to try and find out if its really 500 and not just 250.
I mean, why bother at all if the difference between 250 and 300/400/500 is, to me at least, not really relevant.
At the moment you can have legendary armour and probably another 50-100 LI’s and be classed as dead weight to a team. By dead weight I mean fail mechanics constantly and doing very subpar DPS while also reducing raid DPS because they have to rez you all the time. By subpar I don’t mean a DPS role doing 23k DPS, I mean them doing more like 15k or less which means if another dps role is not playing at maximum efficiency or worse still one of the buffers isn’t buffing well you can fail DPS checks that are otherwise very easy.
So yes, while the requirements might seem high the reality is there’s a lot of chaff that’s been carried through raids by organised groups or regular raid groups and they have a large amount of LI.
I do not dispute many are carried (including myself sometimes). I’m seriously questionning the value of LI and how relevant a difference between 250 and 500 really is.
If you are a “dead weight” at 250 LI, having 50 or 100 more likely won’t change much since you already had tons of opportunities to change. Look for other indicators, like missing mechanics, to decide if the player is as experienced as you would like him/her to be. Because if it is true you can have 250 LI and be “dead weight”, you also have several players who have a fraction as many and are already pretty decent for a lot of reasons.
Lets be honest, LI requirement is already lazy. The more LI you have, the less of a difference it should make. Your first 10 LI says more than the 10 coming after. After 150? After 250? Its, IMO, just kittened and elitist in the worst possible way.
You are kidding me, right?
What does 400 LI prove that 250 doesn’t in regard to relevant raid experience?
He didn’t wrote anything about 400 LI being superior to 250, he just explained how it works to ping the 400 in detail and added some more info how to prevent chat code & macro users from sneaking into a squad.
I know. I’m just amazed that people would ask to ping stuff the way it was described to try and find out if its really 500 and not just 250.
I mean, why bother at all if the difference between 250 and 300/400/500 is, to me at least, not really relevant.
i have 10 pieces of leg armor to date now.. and left with under 200 li. and will reduce further once I get enough provisional token chipping down each week.. will be nice if Anet implement title for armor pieces. kinda painful because I only pug my raids. basically entering a group asking for 400 li I will say helloo … let me ping my armor.. ping ping ping ping ping 6 pieces, this is my first set, wait .. I will roll another char for second set, ping ping ping ping, this is my second set.. and spam the rest of li.. this is my remaining li. …. happy? ok? issue? :/ :\ :/ :\
commander then dragged me into second group. thanks after 5 mins later. :p
thanks for consideration anet .. I love you guys a lot.. (if anet is reading… any leak for fractal? heh) … <3400 LI requirement? And I thought the 300 LI one was dumb!
BTW, how do you ping 400LI? You can never ping more than a stack at a time. If I have a stack and ping it twice will you believe I have 500?
If someone think your raid armor set (worth 300) is not good enough, they are questionable individuals indeed.
you ping the 2 stacks so fast that it cant be a chatcode
sometimes you need to ping stack A, stack B, stack A, stack B, stack A, …..etc very fast to prove those stacks are real
If in doubt they may ask you to split those stacks to 2 different amounts within a certain time and ping them again
You are kidding me, right?
What does 400 LI prove that 250 doesn’t in regard to relevant raid experience?
Maybe future raids could be 5 men instead. It would GREATLY increase accessibility for many players.
i have 10 pieces of leg armor to date now.. and left with under 200 li. and will reduce further once I get enough provisional token chipping down each week.. will be nice if Anet implement title for armor pieces. kinda painful because I only pug my raids. basically entering a group asking for 400 li I will say helloo … let me ping my armor.. ping ping ping ping ping 6 pieces, this is my first set, wait .. I will roll another char for second set, ping ping ping ping, this is my second set.. and spam the rest of li.. this is my remaining li. …. happy? ok? issue? :/ :\ :/ :\
commander then dragged me into second group. thanks after 5 mins later. :p
thanks for consideration anet .. I love you guys a lot.. (if anet is reading… any leak for fractal? heh) … <3
400 LI requirement? And I thought the 300 LI one was dumb!
BTW, how do you ping 400LI? You can never ping more than a stack at a time. If I have a stack and ping it twice will you believe I have 500?
If someone think your raid armor set (worth 300) is not good enough, they are questionable individuals indeed.
Lol, so funny to see people getting frustrated and angry over something nobody knows nothing about yet. Just shows the amount of trash thieves have to endure for mere existing in the game.
Some people just can’t handle the fact they are terrible and at some point got their ass handed to them by thief.Thief getting 1200/1500 range weapon? Get over it!
Thief will do decent range damage just like EVERY other class can? Go cry under mom’s skirt.As for people crying that it will be OP because it will have insane burst out of stealth, look up power burst mesmer with or without PU, doesn’t matter, one shots whatever it wants out of stealth.
You have selective reading skills. People aren’t affraid of a long range weapon in itself. They are affraid of an invisible gunflame with top mobility.
As for your mesmer comparison, I wasn’t aware such a mesmer was a 1200-1500 range gimmick…
At least the attacks that can 100-0 you from stealth ATM (while really anoying) requires you to go within melee range to perform them. Thus leaving you “vulnerable” to counter attacks. What counter attacks do you have vs a 1500 range players that can disapear again and already has the best mobility?
Yes, we do not know for sure what it will come down to, but the existing thief skills, weapons, and trait lines are known. Unless the new specialized trait line modifies what exist I would say people are expressing VERY reasonable fears. The new spec is called DEAD eye. As in, I don’t give kisses, I kill.
Again If Thief takes Rifle it has to give up its High stealth access or its High mobility, because you know Thief can’t use 3 weapon sets at once and then there is the fact that both weapons use the same resource pool. But I forget facts are pesky little things.
And again there is already a high Burst class that has access to High stealth high Mobility and 1500 range but I guess that doesn’t count….
I said, STEALTH, not HIGH access to stealth. Shadow refuge and stealth healing + shortbow would do perfectly.
As for your last paragraph, who can 100-0 you from 1500 out of stealth on his own ATM that also has top mobility? A Gunflame zerker could do the damage and has the mobility but not the stealth. A Druid can’t 100-0 you instantly. A mesmer/Chrono has to be up close and personal to deliver such a blow. Same for DD/Thief. So who?
Wow you are afraid of a stealth skill on a 60 second cd that can self reveal a thief and has a giant tell to every enemy to where the thief is and a 1 sec cast time Heal that has a 30 second CD bahahaha bahahhaha.
I see the problem and it’s not 1200 range Attacks from stealth. Maybe a reflective surface will help you see it.
And a Druid can 100-0 you it’s called zerker and Marauder stats and building for it, with High mobility and Access to stealth. It’s quite easy to do as well.
I give up.
Quit fighting everyone, to balance rifle thief Anet will make it melee weapon as I already stated previously.
Considering Rev hammer is a long range weapon, it might be possible that a rifle could end-up being a melee weapon, but I doubt they would troll thief players this bad with a bayonet build.
Ok. So you’re looking at balance from the WvW point of view. Gotcha.
When you do not split skill between game modes, you have to look at all game modes or you will have major problems.
Lol, so funny to see people getting frustrated and angry over something nobody knows nothing about yet. Just shows the amount of trash thieves have to endure for mere existing in the game.
Some people just can’t handle the fact they are terrible and at some point got their ass handed to them by thief.Thief getting 1200/1500 range weapon? Get over it!
Thief will do decent range damage just like EVERY other class can? Go cry under mom’s skirt.As for people crying that it will be OP because it will have insane burst out of stealth, look up power burst mesmer with or without PU, doesn’t matter, one shots whatever it wants out of stealth.
You have selective reading skills. People aren’t affraid of a long range weapon in itself. They are affraid of an invisible gunflame with top mobility.
As for your mesmer comparison, I wasn’t aware such a mesmer was a 1200-1500 range gimmick…
At least the attacks that can 100-0 you from stealth ATM (while really anoying) requires you to go within melee range to perform them. Thus leaving you “vulnerable” to counter attacks. What counter attacks do you have vs a 1500 range players that can disapear again and already has the best mobility?
Yes, we do not know for sure what it will come down to, but the existing thief skills, weapons, and trait lines are known. Unless the new specialized trait line modifies what exist I would say people are expressing VERY reasonable fears. The new spec is called DEAD eye. As in, I don’t give kisses, I kill.
No, I don’t have selective reading skills, I just tell you how it is, even before the leak, when people were speculating, there was this irrational fear and warmongering against rifle thief. Most of the people completely ignoring the fact that thief today is what it is ONLY because of daredevil traitline. And guess what? Elite traitlines can’t be combined.
Please then, explain to me how will thief have high mobility and high stealth access outside DD?
And as Sly said after you, people like to ignore the fact that ranger exists. Ranger is a sniper already (1500 range), with more health and a companion acting as meat shield. Also, has stealth galore.
Even if thief gets gunflame-like damage attack from stealth, it would be completely acceptable and fine. You know why? Because warrior has gunflame. And because warrior has everything else double the stuff thief has. At 1500 range if you’re not 1v1 against warrior preparing gunflame, you will get gunflame in face, stealth or no stealth.
As for Mesmer, what difference does it make when you get insta downed? He can port on you and kill you, or just kill you in melee range and port away like nothing happened.
Rifle thief demonising is really getting out of hand.
I really wish that anet really does stupidly op rifle thief just so you people could have some real material to complain about.
Sorry but your reply confirm that you do have bad reading skills.
People are afraid of high mobility and 1500 range 100-0 damage potential combined with stealth. NOT with high stealth access. Just stealth. And this can EASILY be achieved without the DD trait line. Ever heard of SR?
Let’s face it. The basic thief/DD frame has inherent balance issues in a place like WvW and already appeal to most trolls as is. Adding 1500 range to it in that context is legitimately frighting and pretty easy to grasp why it can be a problem if you play WvW even just a little.
BTW. Ranger can’t 100-0 anybody from 1500 away. It never happened to me despite playing pure glass. He can pew-pew from this far with stealth, but the burst is nothing like a gunflame or a shatter combo.
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Lol, so funny to see people getting frustrated and angry over something nobody knows nothing about yet. Just shows the amount of trash thieves have to endure for mere existing in the game.
Some people just can’t handle the fact they are terrible and at some point got their ass handed to them by thief.Thief getting 1200/1500 range weapon? Get over it!
Thief will do decent range damage just like EVERY other class can? Go cry under mom’s skirt.As for people crying that it will be OP because it will have insane burst out of stealth, look up power burst mesmer with or without PU, doesn’t matter, one shots whatever it wants out of stealth.
You have selective reading skills. People aren’t affraid of a long range weapon in itself. They are affraid of an invisible gunflame with top mobility.
As for your mesmer comparison, I wasn’t aware such a mesmer was a 1200-1500 range gimmick…
At least the attacks that can 100-0 you from stealth ATM (while really anoying) requires you to go within melee range to perform them. Thus leaving you “vulnerable” to counter attacks. What counter attacks do you have vs a 1500 range players that can disapear again and already has the best mobility?
Yes, we do not know for sure what it will come down to, but the existing thief skills, weapons, and trait lines are known. Unless the new specialized trait line modifies what exist I would say people are expressing VERY reasonable fears. The new spec is called DEAD eye. As in, I don’t give kisses, I kill.
Again If Thief takes Rifle it has to give up its High stealth access or its High mobility, because you know Thief can’t use 3 weapon sets at once and then there is the fact that both weapons use the same resource pool. But I forget facts are pesky little things.
And again there is already a high Burst class that has access to High stealth high Mobility and 1500 range but I guess that doesn’t count….
I said, STEALTH, not HIGH access to stealth. Shadow refuge and stealth healing + shortbow would do perfectly.
As for your last paragraph, who can 100-0 you from 1500 out of stealth on his own ATM that also has top mobility? A Gunflame zerker could do the damage and has the mobility but not the stealth. A Druid can’t 100-0 you instantly. A mesmer/Chrono has to be up close and personal to deliver such a blow. Same for DD/Thief. So who?
Lol, so funny to see people getting frustrated and angry over something nobody knows nothing about yet. Just shows the amount of trash thieves have to endure for mere existing in the game.
Some people just can’t handle the fact they are terrible and at some point got their ass handed to them by thief.Thief getting 1200/1500 range weapon? Get over it!
Thief will do decent range damage just like EVERY other class can? Go cry under mom’s skirt.As for people crying that it will be OP because it will have insane burst out of stealth, look up power burst mesmer with or without PU, doesn’t matter, one shots whatever it wants out of stealth.
You have selective reading skills. People aren’t affraid of a long range weapon in itself. They are affraid of an invisible gunflame with top mobility.
As for your mesmer comparison, I wasn’t aware such a mesmer was a 1200-1500 range gimmick…
At least the attacks that can 100-0 you from stealth ATM (while really anoying) requires you to go within melee range to perform them. Thus leaving you “vulnerable” to counter attacks. What counter attacks do you have vs a 1500 range players that can disapear again and already has the best mobility?
Yes, we do not know for sure what it will come down to, but the existing thief skills, weapons, and trait lines are known. Unless the new specialized trait line modifies what exist I would say people are expressing VERY reasonable fears. The new spec is called DEAD eye. As in, I don’t give kisses, I kill.
Armour have little to no impact in the game. Toughness which everyone can build is what matter in the end.
As for HP, the elementalist have an average effective health pool. Which mean that despite their low inate health pool, their ability to mitigate damage and refile this health pool is high enough for him to have effectively as much HP than the other professions.
Tempest have the potential to survive bathing for an extented time in lava if traited and geared correctly, what more HP would you need than that?
The low inate health pool will matter when you are facing burst attacks.
With an ele, you better have prot or invul when burst comes your way because you won’t be bouncing back from insta down so easily (12k life pool is not hard to 100-0 for many). If you have a high inherant life pool, these kind of attacks are a lot more forgiving when you are taken with your pants down.
We have tons of mitigation, but it requires action and awareness. And the effective health pool, will vary a lot depending on your build. An auramancer is pretty tanky, but a tempest/fire/air with scholar runes not so much.
Well on crits for ele procures condi dmg yet both of them are on icd and must be on a cirt that may or may not work because its still a % that they will trigger (% of a % are super low odds). So why should necro DC not be on an icd? Ele would love a torment on chill or even just a bleed.
Basically you should evaluate the number of applications per unit of time.
Ele procs are on-crit, but then we have 100% crit chance in a meta comp, making them effectively on-hit. And we hit a lot. Ele’s damage relies on stacking AOE skills which hit multiple times and/or multiple enemies. Lightning Orb, Lightning Storm, Overload Air, Overload Fire, Phoenix, Wildfire, Lava Font, Meteor Shower, Burning Retreat, Burning Speed… And on top of that we’re talking about applying Burning, which is the most damaging condi. Not having ICD on these procs would be broken beyond belief.
Deathly Chill is on-chill-application. They can’t hope to match the number of applied chills per second with the number of our hits per second. That’s why DC needs to apply with 1:1 rate, and even apply multiple stacks of bleeding to be relevant.
First thing Ele can’t use all the skills at once since they are from separated weapons. and some for them don’t even crit. Many non staff attacks don’t trigger crits with ele skills. And who the heck goes roaming with a staff lol.
Actually, I do. I like the challenge of roaming with a backline build. Not a joke.
I don’t think that 1200 range alone is what people fear. Its 1200 range with massive damage, mobility and stealth that make people anticipate the worst. It would be ridiculous to have all this.
Like Druid?
Yes, but to the next level. Anything with stealth and insane mobility is going to be supremely annoying in WvW. but Druid can’t reasonably 100-0 you in one shot from stealth 1200 away.
Give good stealth to a gunflame zerker and it would be closer to what people are afraid of.
Just out of curiosity, how much continous time per week did you have to devote to raid to reach where you are? A realistic guesstimate that consider all the time you had to invest in searching group, prepare, practice, and do the raids. You seem to have worked quite hard, am I right?
Not the person you’re talking to, but I have a similar story. The only continuous time I invested is 2 hours twice a week. That’s it.
Is it possible that this case can vary from player to player for a plethora of reasons?
Child that is left behind? WvW say hi…
A year ago, I had 2 LI and no experience whatsoever. Today, I have 226 LI and a set of Legendary armour.
I didn’t get to that point by paying, I chose to work hard for it. I had to practically beg some groups to give me a chance to prove myself, but they refused. So I looked for guilds that did training raids, and 2 weeks later, people were grabbing me the first chance they got. Within another week, I had the potential to join 3 static teams, but I only joined 2 due to time conflicts.
If after all of that effort, you fail to get far in raids, that’s entirely on you.
Just out of curiosity, how much continous time per week did you have to devote to raid to reach where you are? A realistic guesstimate that consider all the time you had to invest in searching group, prepare, practice, and do the raids. You seem to have worked quite hard, am I right?
I just returned to GW2 and started my second class and was just wondering if it can weild 2 Legendary weapons at once.
Why could he not?
i’ve played full glass staff zerker in spvp since beta and up until recently i’ve considered it really potent.
the change to metoershow though has absolutely decimated it, if any minions, pets, healing turrets or anything else that isn’t a player gets hit then the damage is screwed…seriously Anet, if raid bosses with huge hitboxes are an issue SPLIT THE SKILL FOR PVE.
Playing the same build as you, I agree with you about MS and how it impact on the build. A skill split would have been way preferable for the game balance.
MS used to be a well balanced risk/reward skill vs other players. Now, not s much.
IF he keeps his burst. IF he keeps his mobility. That’s the point, we have no idea if either of those things will be a feature of the elite spec. For all we know, it could limit Thief to one weapon only (no SB), remove Steal and swap it for something else, and have absolutely no stealth mechanic at all. It might not even be a burst spec. It could be support, condi, sustained DPS. We don’t know yet, so complaining about IF this and IF that is pointless. Save the complaining for when we get some details and it turns out that yeah, it is a crappy one shot burst spec.
All this is as of right now is “Waaaa Thief might get a decent ranged weapon omg so OP”. Its nonsense.
How dare they give that profession a weapon that has 1200 range! No other profession has weapons that are 1200! Wait…
I don’t think that 1200 range alone is what people fear. Its 1200 range with massive damage, mobility and stealth that make people anticipate the worst. It would be ridiculous to have all this.
watch, its gonna be a condi weapon….
bahahahaha
I admit I would laugh if it was a 1.5k range crippler and healer.
Stopped playing ele after the last nerf. You would think the squishiest class in the game.
i dunno about that, they are just as tanky as most other class’s. at 2500 armour/18k health and with all of the auras/protection they chuck out i rate them very durable, and thats with out building to play frontline aura share (wvw) not sure abut spvp but thats an amulet issue.
Except you never play anything beside full zerk in PvE, where the numbers look… umm.. a bit differently.
Ele still has top DPS over large hitboxes (with Sc/Wh) and moderate DPS over small boxes (Sc/Wh)
Staff (e.g. ez mode) has been nerfed though.
1. In theory. In practice you dance on your keyboard trying to squeeze out as much dps as you can, then you look at the dps meter and see a thief who’s just autoattacking on his staff have the same numbers.
2. Staff has never been easy mode. There are still those eles who think it is, and these are the famous sub-10k dps eles.
Indeed, I never understood how people could think zerk staff is ez mode. Even in PvE, the high DPS rotation is not easy to get at all compared to many other professions.
And It is even harder if we talk about PvP or WvW. Try to stay alive with your “ez” paper staff build vs other humans. You will have the skill workout of your life and still, more often than not, die anyway.