Awesome !
I wish they would fix some broken event chains first tho… (balthasar for ex.)
LMAO …….OP said it is “worth” 250+ gold. I do not believe that is true. Just because other clowns list it for that much, does not mean they will find a clown that will pay that much.
they are definetly going for that price
Can transfer in 5 days. Event chain bugged on my server (again). What am i supposed to do now? Please answer me A Net.
i hope this is true going to transfer
edit: nvm i can only transfer in 5 days when i was able a few hours ago… yea well wth?
Yes please. I want duels.
Gives something to do while waiting for an WvW invite !
yea would like to know a server where its uncontested aswell… incinerator is waiting =/
Putting 40 exotic level 80 Staffs into the Mystic Forge and guess what happened?
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I challenge Promega and LFK to tell the rest of the user base wait they are crafting, from looking into it, I cannot see anyway that they are crafting 4 exotics weapons for 1.3 gold.
I checked into this and they are full of it. It’s a minimum of 2g for 4x level 75 exotics and it can easily give you back a junk level 80 exotic worth less than 1g.
They’re probably just trying to get suckers to buy their inflated level 75 exotics.
Heh. It doesn’t really bother me whether you believe me or not. I have no idea who promega is, we’re not trying to cook up some conspiracy. When did i say anything about level 75 exotics?
It doesn’t work with the level 78 daggers you’re talking about either. Just as with the level 75 exotics, you can easily get a level 80 exotic worth less than 1g, meaning your “guaranteed profit” is pure fantasy.
Sorry I called out your poor attempt at manipulating the exotic market to sell your stuff.
Ok here extra for you ill show u something. WORST CASE you will get a dagger that is worth 1,68g. I wont comment any further because if you cant get it urself… well…
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this method doesnt excatly work when you are trying to get a staff or greatsword precursor as far as i know, i could be wrong just quickly brushed through tp.
might be true since i only tried it with daggers yet
No it’s not. You can still be hit in stealth.
You can be randomly hit while in stealth, but chances are, if you are good, you won’t, unless you’re crazy and decide to teleport right at the middle of a zerg’s aoe. More often than not, your opponent is going to waste their time creating fields around them or hitting the air in hopes of hitting a thief.
Stealth is an amazingly defensive mechanic. It requires a little bit of skill, it’s not an invulnerability button, but it’s extremely strong.
Im not saying it is a bad one, its a very good one indeed. But it’s definetly not “the best in the game” like someone stated.
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“I explicitly acknowledged that using the TP and forge is not the only way to make profit.
Also I am curious as to what you are combining. The cost to craft 1 Pearl Greatsword is 1.5 gold at the cheapest. How you are crafting items at 1/4th that price is beyond me."
i’m currently buying a lvl 78 daggers for ~40s each. That means an attempt costs me 1,6g. I will get a lvl 80 exotic back, even if i dont get the precursor, they are 95% of the time worth more than 1,6g. You can even get some weapons like Usokus Needle which goes for 10g+.
What you do is filter for exotics, lvl 75-80 and then sort by the cheapest. Now you will place BIDS on the cheapest one available on the AH.
I just want to know which profession except thief can pop out that damage in that time without the use of quickness.
Sorry guys, but backstab feel ridiculous to me. All high damage skills are channeled, have massive casting time or easy to evade.
Backstab deal at least 4k damage and a maximum of 10k, is almost instant and give the victim no clue when the backstab will come..
I don’t care that you have low health and you are squishy and blah blah blah. You have stealth to compensate which is the most powerful defensive mechanic in the game.
No it’s not. You can still be hit in stealth.
I also wonder whether Coolmoose’s screenshots (cf. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Backstab-time-to-nerf/page/5#post606991) also illustrate a cumulation of
a) pre-signet nerf numbers (~35% more damage on BS)
b) effects of orbs (e.g. 50 stats+ each)
c) possible squishy targets (Necromancer and a Thief/Ranger (?))
d) conditions on targets – fresh 80s or even upleveld targets (denied by him)
e) temporary boons (e.g. food, team)
e) some “one in a hundred”-hit(s)
f) no garanteed reproducibilty (everything has to crit, geared enemies, e.g. in sPvP environment)
g) him being an absolute glass cannon (hp)
etc.
I’m running a 114% crit damage thief and i have never hit that high on a lvl 80 player. Not even close after the Assassin Signet nerf.
I’ve done some 20k+ on low lvls tho.
“The problem with this is two things. Its not the basis of their attack every 1 minute, they might be able to do this once if all the conditions are right, but thieves can very easily do their combo with little effort.”
And then what? be useless for almost a minute? Awesome. I’ve played the insta kill backstab build for a while and believe me, it sucks. It’s gimmicky at best but thats a bout it. If anything goes wrong u’re pretty much a free kill. And it has been nerfed already (the Assassin Signet).
I’m running another (much more reliable) backstab build at the moment which doesnt insta gib players since it doesnt have the same damage output, if backstab gets nerfed it will be useless and i have to go for pure damage once again to even remotely deal any decent damage with it. No thanks.
I would be ok with a damage cap on it (like 10k or something) tho.
I’ve got hit by a 15k 100B the other day… does this mean we have to nerf warriors? No, it doesn’t. It means i have to play better against a warrior next time and NOT GET HIT BY 100B.
Or i could just create a bunch of “nerf 100B” threads and laugh at them once they’re nerfed… seems what the majority is doing anyway…
Gandara is not uncontested anymore i was there a few mins ago and the def event failed. Yes, it’s a shame -.-
Putting 40 exotic level 80 Staffs into the Mystic Forge and guess what happened?
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Someone here mentioned that he actually makes + by attempting to craft an precursor and i can fully support this. If you think about it for a minute you’re actually doing it wrong by buying lvl 80 exotics from the AH and then putting them into the MF to attempt a precursor.
Right now an attempt costs me around 1,5g and i will most likely make more out of the exotic i get from the MF back. I dont actually lose money by trying, i actually make a profit. You don’t have to put lvl 80 exotics in there, 75+ works fine and you have the chance to get one. Even if you don’t get an Precursor out of it you will 95% get a lvl 80 exotic which is worth much more than 1,5g.
If you buy lvl 80 exotics and put them into the Forge and get nothing in return (even after 1000 of trys) than there is noone to blame besides you. There are better ways without risking tons of gold.
And yes, i have gotten my precursor (after around 50 tries with lvl 75+ exotics).
ANet: Please for the love of whatever you may consider holy, if you’re going to implement duels, make it only doable in a specific place. It’s annoying watching a bunch of people dueling all over the place and I hate Hate HATE getting 50 duel requests/minute while I’m just trying to go about my own business.
They could just implement a “I want to duel” Status that you can switch on and off, if you have it off you cannot get invited.
And you’re annoyed by people dueling around you? Im annoyed by people running around on my screen… A-Net should get rid of that !
Really like this idea !
I love Guild Wars 2 and i love its PvP System. But im more a fan of 1on1 PvP and its quite sad that this game doesnt seem to support such a situation that much. Besides camping the jumping puzzle this game doesnt offer enough of that, neither in WvW or sPvP.
Greetz
Someone care to explain me why there is no Power / Vitality / Crit Damage gear in sPvP available? The build i use on my thief requires this gear to spec properly.
Just curious.
@Namu
I have never ever come across this so called stealth delay except in a big zerg vs zerg at WvW and i have played against a lot of thieves. People are just making things up. I’m not saying that it never occurs (even tho i have never experienced it myself), but to say that its always there, when its not, is just making things up.
Warriors & Guardians and Mesmers are probably even worse than thieves in a 1v1. But even then, every class is OP if you know how to play it. If you get wrecked by a thief its simple to just blame the class instead of actually looking in the mirror and blame urself…
very nice playing here
your evading is superb
I must be having issues because I get nothing with the consumable. Not sure whats happening there. All my trait debuffs stick, but nothing from this.
weird.
it definetly works for me…
It may be on a proc-on-crit chance. It’s hard to tell, but I am interested and will check it out later, do some testing and let you guys know. Also, some mobs in the world don’t take affects from stuff. Try using it against the testing dummies in the Mist.
i played around a bit with it
it adds weakness and vuln on the enemy for 2 seconds. It also procs on non critical hits. Its pretty sick actually since Weakness is a very nice debuff in WvW especially on non prec builded opponents. It also procs fairly often.
nvm i got it :S
pretty cool … i was looking for some auto hit poisons that you could apply as a perma buff. I wish there was one which would slow down enemys…
i found one NPC when i talk to him he starts a patroling quest where this canon heart quest is with the ghosts… but i dont think hes the one ure meaning. He’s chilling at the bridge u take to get to the cannons where u have to kill ghosts.
The vendor is located in Iron Marches near Bloodfin Lake (South Eastern of map). The consumable applies Skale Venom for 10 minutes. Not much else I can say, it doesnt explain much either. I hadn’t notice it working as I had “thought”. I got it from one of the merchants that hosts the events down there.
with events you mean the hearts? cant find the vendor down there…
Pls disable the Mesmer skill "Portal" untill you fix the server lode issus
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@jonesbones: That my point. But some ppl that abuse it just can’t take it to be blamed cheaters.
@Shizzlenit: ALL just dmg limitation. They can’t do kitten about it. How to handle the abuse? You will punish ppl that did nothing. I mean who do you bann? The Mesmer? He probably will say his team told him so or that he never wanted to use it that way or some other kitten like our friend from shiverpeack. Take the ratting away? Again you hurt ppl that did nothing. The servers that will get matched with them will have a lame week and the get big WvW for the kitten they did.
Bann everyone that used a Mesmer portal? Well with the jumping puzzle in WvW you proabaly will bann 60% of the WvW players this way.A-net is kittened pretty deep in the butt becaus of ppl like sarmatiko. Thay are the reasone we can’t have nice things.
im aware of that dude
I just think its kinda shocking that they approve this obvious glitch as a legit tactic. Thats all. Instead of saying, “hey guys were aware that theres a glitch with the mesmer portal right now thats makes full zergs invisible for a couple of minutes. We will take away the skill from WvW untill we have sorted it out, we’re sorry but we think its the only way to promote fair gameplay.”
It’s not an issue with portals. It’s an issue with the renderer. How many times does this need to be said?
it doesnt matter what EXACTLY is causing it. It just happens when the mesmer portal gets used……
It’s not fun to fight an invisible zerg…
Pretty much how i wanted him to look right now :P
also got him full exotic now… hes pretty much finished… :S (maybe the legendary dagger if i feel like farming for a year :P )
this is just lame
Pls disable the Mesmer skill "Portal" untill you fix the server lode issus
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@jonesbones: That my point. But some ppl that abuse it just can’t take it to be blamed cheaters.
@Shizzlenit: ALL just dmg limitation. They can’t do kitten about it. How to handle the abuse? You will punish ppl that did nothing. I mean who do you bann? The Mesmer? He probably will say his team told him so or that he never wanted to use it that way or some other kitten like our friend from shiverpeack. Take the ratting away? Again you hurt ppl that did nothing. The servers that will get matched with them will have a lame week and the get big WvW for the kitten they did.
Bann everyone that used a Mesmer portal? Well with the jumping puzzle in WvW you proabaly will bann 60% of the WvW players this way.A-net is kittened pretty deep in the butt becaus of ppl like sarmatiko. Thay are the reasone we can’t have nice things.
im aware of that dude
I just think its kinda shocking that they approve this obvious glitch as a legit tactic. Thats all. Instead of saying, “hey guys were aware that theres a glitch with the mesmer portal right now thats makes full zergs invisible for a couple of minutes. We will take away the skill from WvW untill we have sorted it out, we’re sorry but we think its the only way to promote fair gameplay.”
Where is this vendor located?
“Cloak & Dagger, by the way, you can have small periods of un-stealth because the 3 second cooldown just happens to be the exact length of an autoattack chain for the Thief. So as soon as Lotus Strike is casting, he preps C&D, and goes Stealth a second later. 3-4 seconds Stealth, Backstab, 2 seconds autoattack, 1 second cast on C&D, and restealth. 3 in, 3 out, repeat for as long as you have initiative.
You can also sit there and C&D a single target, timing the next attack to hit right after the Stealth fades. Not too efficient use of Init, but works for keeping full Stealth.
My strong recommendation for anyone fighting this kind of Thief is to never stop attacking, and gain some distance. If he has no target to hit, he has a much harder time using Stealth."
Im using a similiar build (not jinzus, i used it way before this guy posted his one, mine doesnt rely on the opener that much too) and ur tactic wont really work since you get blinded everytime the thief restealthes (and you do that a lot with this build)… most of ur attacks will go nowhere…
To the threadstarter: Kite him. Pretty much the only thing that will work is too kite him, he cannot go back into stealth if he cannot get near you. And if he cannot get back into stealth he cannot backstab. His build → fawked.
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Pls disable the Mesmer skill "Portal" untill you fix the server lode issus
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“As we have stated, this is no exploit so far but another tactic that players can use in their gaming experience.” lol"
Wow wtf… abusing a glitch is called a “tactic” these days… by the developers?? kitten im shocked O.O
The problem is Quickness.
The buff needs to be removed…from ALL classes.
End of story.
it really is not quickness.
3,4k attack + 99% crit damage + 12 stacks of might sounds about right…
what are these random numbers you’re spouting supposed to be?
http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/gw099ywnc7tm9xg_thumb.jpg
http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/gw10285390zyx1f.jpg
Im sry its 15 stacks might (if you wanna waste ur blind) + 100% crit damage + 3,35k atk
guys im a thief myself too and ive been playing a backstabber since the beginning, i love it. But even i can see that this is probably not intended… the burst you pull of is riddicolous. My gear is not even full exotic at this point…
Edit: I dont wanna start a flame war … just voicing my opinion on this build that is going around these days …
your first pic is smaller than my asura’s little toe. try again.
http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/gw099wo3tveh6ur.jpg
sry didnt notice here u go
@the other guy
900 from the shadowstep skill + 1,200 from steal (with the trait) = 2,100 (i just called it metres cuz i have no idea what they mean with those numbers… but when i think about it, metres probably is it not :P )
I 2-3 shot Level 1 players who just joined WvW too. The big numbers just make you feel good in between the /rage a glass cannon build has when facing any decent opponent. Try your glass on a Guardian. No dice. Even a decent Mesmer who knows to get his clones out before you stealth.
A level 1 WvW newbie, and a level 80 glass cannon, have the exact same stats in terms of Toughness/Armor. So yes, you can hit the same damage on 80’s. Because, level 1’s are scaled up to 80. So it’s the same thing. Doesn’t mean it’s broken or over powered. It means the guy is squishy and needs to not be engaging 3 people solo.
when you can port 2,100 metres (i think its metres i dont know) the guy doesnt have much of a chance to not decide getting 1 hitted with his glass cannon… but well hes a glass cannon maybe he deserves it
The problem is Quickness.
The buff needs to be removed…from ALL classes.
End of story.
it really is not quickness.
3,4k attack + 99% crit damage + 12 stacks of might sounds about right…
what are these random numbers you’re spouting supposed to be?
http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/gw099ywnc7tm9xg_thumb.jpg
http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/gw10285390zyx1f.jpg
Im sry its 15 stacks might (if you wanna waste ur blind) + 100% crit damage + 3,35k atk
guys im a thief myself too and ive been playing a backstabber since the beginning, i love it. But even i can see that this is probably not intended… the burst you pull of is riddicolous. My gear is not even full exotic at this point…
Edit: I dont wanna start a flame war … just voicing my opinion on this build that is going around these days …
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So? They are running glass cannon builds and wearing cloth? There is nothing strange about it. With 3.4k attack and +99 crit dmg… ya right no berserker
You cannot get 17k hp with full berserker… maybe check out the valkyria set next time… like i said you dont need precision with this build since ur backstabs are critting 100% anyway…
The problem is Quickness.
The buff needs to be removed…from ALL classes.
End of story.
it really is not quickness.
3,4k attack + 99% crit damage + 12 stacks of might sounds about right…
Are you using quickness?
no… look at the screen i posted there is no quickness at the skill bar.
@Shizzlenit
So you critted some lv 5-10 dude for 20k in berserker gear ? And blowing 150% dmg signet? Wow that should be nerfed. Btw how many stacks for vuln did he have? I love when people just show some random screenshot without any further information.
HIGH dmg numbers will always happen to lowbies. Nothing can change that. Please do the same dmg to LV 80 dude.
Im not using berserker gear… not even 1 piece… he didnt have any vulnerable stacks… (he was down before my mates arrived and im not stacking any vulnerable)
and i have hitted around 18k backstabs on lvl 80s…
The problem is Quickness.
The buff needs to be removed…from ALL classes.
End of story.
it really is not quickness.
3,4k attack + 99% crit damage + 12 stacks of might sounds about right…
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/gw097m1hy8sfnpc.jpg
3k damage from the stealth (didnt crit)
8k dmg CnD
21k dmg BackstabWe’re looking at ~32k dmg in less than a second.
I can repeat this as soon as my Stealth is back up. (not that this is needed) Precision isn’t needed thanks to the 100% crit chance while in stealth. My Gear isnt perfect yet, i can do more than this while getting more hp.
This will be nerfed very soon so enjoy it while you can.
(btw this was done with 1 orb buff)
Do you know what that green arrow pointing up means?
Not the point. Nothing should be able to do this much damage in less than a second. Even on a non 80 Char.
Im hitting 15k+ on 80s too btw..
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/gw097m1hy8sfnpc.jpg
3k damage from the stealth (didnt crit)
8k dmg CnD
21k dmg Backstab
We’re looking at ~32k dmg in less than a second.
I can repeat this as soon as my Stealth is back up. (not that this is needed) Precision isn’t needed thanks to the 100% crit chance while in stealth. My Gear isnt perfect yet, i can do more than this while getting more hp.
This will be nerfed very soon so enjoy it while you can.
(btw this was done with 1 orb buff)