Guild Wars 2

morrolan.9608:

John Smith.4610:

I’m not sure I entirely understand what the problem is, if someone could elaborate objectively on the argument I would appreciate it.

If one wants to obtain the items referred to by the OP it is virtually impossible to do by just playing the game given the extreme RNG unless one is extremely lucky. A player then has to grind for gold or play the TP, which is by far the easiest way to earn gold in the game, which is itself a problem given that the game is a themepark MMO not a sandbox where the TP is subject to large doses of manipulation by arenanet.

I quite enjoy seeing conspiracy theorists come up with accusations. The desperation to attribute randomness with “manipulation” is fascinating.

Rainshine.5493:

Imo the real problem is that with vertical progression and ascended being such a grind, people are forced to not only balance immediate stat improvements over cosmetic items they really like the looks of (not a problem GW1 had — despite very large cosmetic grinds — because of the low barrier to maximum stats), but expected FUTURE improvements to stats. AKA, the rest of the ascended gear and whatever future tiers you stick us with.

It’s already difficult for an average gamer to fully kit out a single character, when all weapons are considered and if we assume people might actually, you know, want to play more than one build. When you add in alts, then you’re further gimping yourself when you pursue expensive cosmetic items.

So these high prices for cosmetic things become even bigger in people’s eyes, whereas if they didn’t have to worry about stat creep, I think you’d find far fewer complaints.

Just an FYI – you can’t buy Ascended gear from the TP.

That said, how are you comparing expensive skins (no stats/cosmetic only) with vertical progression?

sorudo.9054:

for now i am forced to buy gems with euro’s and Anet screws over europeans every single day, they favor USD over EURO and even make an excuse that apparently some weak minded ppl believe.

Then you should tell Europe to get rid of your VAT, and then convert all your currencies to the US Dollar.

Crypze.6571:

Why do i (a norwegian) have to pay more money for gems than a guy from United Kingdom(+all other countries)? 8k gems = 100£ for Norway, 8k gems = 85£ for United Kingdom.

Please give me an answer.

When did the UK convert to the Euro?

nethykins.7986:

Simply put:

Considering that the game is continually getting cheaper/multiple sales, etc. Shouldn’t the Gem rates adapt to this?

Currently if you’re wanting to buy 5 more char slots…it’s cheaper to do so by means of buying a new copy of the game, rather than spend significantly more for more slots.
Sure, the devs are making things more alt-friendly, but it’s few and far between – and i’m not sure the convenience factor of ‘everything on one account’ will hold much when the prices gap will continually increase.

Thoughts?

EDIT: I should mention…i like making new chars….and I’m not a hardcore player, or one that has gold pouring out of every hole in my body to pay for the costs of gem conversion, however, i do have RL money, but not enough to make it worth anything in game

Gems are free if you exchange with your in game Gold. I suggest playing the mini-game “Black Lion Trading Post” to make some quick coin.

John Smith.4610:

I’m not sure I entirely understand what the problem is, if someone could elaborate objectively on the argument I would appreciate it.

For anything regarding the currency exchange I will say that the currency exchange is NOT a good indicator of market prices or inflation, it wasn’t designed to be.

John, in the most simple explanation of the opening post, the player is upset that we’re allowed to have an open market. He can’t afford/doesn’t want to pay the high prices for certain rare item skins, and is upset that we sell them for the prices they’re currently valued at.

You can change your character’s name after you sit out your suspension. Please be careful of your name choices in the future.

Julie Yann.5379:

I never said it should be removed, I’m just saying that it really does make a difference for a lot of people. There have been many times when my party pushed off a group twice our size (only 1 or 2 up levels) by the skin of our teeth because we were more organized and better players. If they had ascended gear and we didn’t we would not have succeeded. If you take a look at WvW as a whole, the majority of the worlds are underpopulated cause the top 3 stole all the WvW guilds. Ascended affects more people than you think.

At this point, it’s safe to say that we’re both right. Zerg vs Zerg fights take number of players over strength of gear. 1 vs 1 takes skill and gear in account.

Since we can continue to argue both our points, and both be correct, I say we call this a draw, and leave the game as it is.

Julie Yann.5379:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

eisberg.2379:

DocHolliday.5921:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

DocHolliday.5921:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The point you’re missing is that there is no real advantage in WvW.

No, you’re ignoring the fact that there is. You have no point.

So back to the topic. Ascended gear has better stats than Exotic gear, but there’s no advantage to the player who wears Ascended gear. The only numbers that matter are the amount of opponents you face on the battlefield.

That has been factually proven false. Over. And over. And over. STOP LYING.

On paper, sure. What is actually happening in game, not even close.

You know what? I think I figured out where all these misunderstandings are coming from. When you’re in a lower ranked server, attributes might play more of a factor than skill or number, since WvW populations are lower on the bottom tiers. When you’re in high ranked battles (i.e. Tiers 1 or 2), player numbers play the biggest factor, since every day the Borderlands are queued.

So then it become a question of experience and opinion, rather than facts or maths.

That is exactly it. There are many more roamers and small parties on the lower tiers. The stat difference has a much greater effect in those cases. The ones complaining are not the ones running with the blob.

My argument all this time was based on the fact that when you have more players against you, all the stats in the world won’t save you from a stomping.

The problem would still be that the small difference in stats would apply only to 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 2 situations, like how you see in SPvP. WvW is meant to be more of a real battle, where you have groups vs groups. So in my opinion, you can’t base the “remove Ascended from WvW” argument on only specific situations (i.e. roaming fights). You need to look at WvW as a whole. If you’re only arguing for that part of WvW, the other people who fight in groups will counter that argument, and we’re at a perpetual stalemate.

If you change all your “Poop” named characters to “Boop”, then you might be ok. I would suggest opening a Support Ticket, and explaining that you made mistakes on your character names.

eisberg.2379:

DocHolliday.5921:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

DocHolliday.5921:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The point you’re missing is that there is no real advantage in WvW.

No, you’re ignoring the fact that there is. You have no point.

So back to the topic. Ascended gear has better stats than Exotic gear, but there’s no advantage to the player who wears Ascended gear. The only numbers that matter are the amount of opponents you face on the battlefield.

That has been factually proven false. Over. And over. And over. STOP LYING.

On paper, sure. What is actually happening in game, not even close.

You know what? I think I figured out where all these misunderstandings are coming from. When you’re in a lower ranked server, attributes might play more of a factor than skill or number, since WvW populations are lower on the bottom tiers. When you’re in high ranked battles (i.e. Tiers 1 or 2), player numbers play the biggest factor, since every day the Borderlands are queued.

So then it become a question of experience and opinion, rather than facts or maths.

DocHolliday.5921:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

DocHolliday.5921:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The point you’re missing is that there is no real advantage in WvW.

No, you’re ignoring the fact that there is. You have no point.

So back to the topic. Ascended gear has better stats than Exotic gear, but there’s no advantage to the player who wears Ascended gear. The only numbers that matter are the amount of opponents you face on the battlefield.

That has been factually proven false. Over. And over. And over. STOP LYING.

It’s been proven to be true every single day in WvW. When the other server outnumbers you greatly (more than double), gear is meaningless.

And when the difference in number is less (30 vs 20), then the true factor is skill level of the players, not gear.

Bhima.9518:

Keiel.7489:

Bhima.9518:

morrolan.9608:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The first point can be easily fixed by the players themselves. The second point is already proven to be false, as there’s a tiny advantage, but not unfair.

No such thing has been proven, and 10% is not a tiny advantage in statistical terms it is significant.

It is actually an 11% advantage in Effective Power if you have all ascended trinks and a weapon vs. all exotics. That advantage will probably got to 16% or more once armor comes out.

I’ll quote you but, adress all of this mindset. I did a rough calculations when Ascended rings were first made available. Each ring has about 10% stats increase compared to their exotic counterparts (crit D rings are exceptions since Anet has made CritD somewhat odd in point allotments.) So if I had 1 Ascended ring, I will have 10% more stats for that slot. But there is 13-14 slots so 10%/13=0.76% stat increase, that is not counting the base stats everyone already has. When Ascended armor comes into play the most anyone will have an advantage over another is 10% if you are looking at Ascended vs Exotics.

But lets look at weapons:
Compare two swords:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Jormag's_Breath
Weapon Damage avg=952.5
Stats:90+64+64=218

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Chorben%27s_Blade
Weapon Damage avg=1000.0
Stats:94+67+67=228

Difference
47.5 Weapon damage (4.75% damage increase)
10 Points in stats (4.3% stat increase)

Not even 10% if you combined them.

However the back piece and the weapon is the onlything you have to really grind for outside of WvW, everything else is already available to you via Laruels so you are at a 1.5% stats disadvantage, less than 100 points of stats in terms of Ascended vs Exotics. In WvW there is no fair 1v1 2v2 3v3 20v20. Even one extra players brings thousands of stat points, extra CD, extra synergy to the fight than every piece of ascended gear out there.

You are doing it wrong. Make it simple… start by going here:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/

Now, trick out full zerker exotics and a 30/10/0/0/30 war. Note the Effective Power (Effective Power is total power output including crit dmg and crit strike).

Take that template, and replace zerker exotics with ascended trinkets and ascended weapon. Note the Effective Power. Do the basic math, and you will see where I got my 11% difference in Effective Power number.

In fact, I’ll do it for you:
Exotic http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|1.1g.h2.0.0.0|3.1g.h2.0.0.0|1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e|1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67|u39b.a5.0.0.u68a|6f.1|5y.69.6h.6c.0|e Effective Power: 6489.05 EHP: 24645 DR: 20.42%
Ascended http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|1.5g.h2.0.0.0|3.1g.h2.0.0.0|1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e|2s.0.2s.0.3s.0.2s.0.3s.0.2s.0|u39b.a5.0.0.u68a|6f.1|5y.69.6h.6c.0|e EP: 7280.17 EHP: 24690 DR: 20.42%
EFFECTIVE POWER DIFFERENCE: 11%

There’s two additional calculations you need to consider:

1) Skill. If the opponent’s skill level exceeds the Ascended geared player, the effective power difference is 0%. Skill can’t be measured in numbers, so it’s automatically set to 0.

2) Amount of opponents. If the Ascended geared player is outnumbered, the effective power difference is -(1/X)%, where X = the number of opponents.

DocHolliday.5921:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The point you’re missing is that there is no real advantage in WvW.

No, you’re ignoring the fact that there is. You have no point.

You still seem to not understand WvW. If you played it, you’d understand where your argument fails. Basically, your argument is to make WvW like SPvP. The problem here is that SPvP already exists. And since it already exists, that nullifies your argument instantly.

So back to the topic. Ascended gear has better stats than Exotic gear, but there’s no advantage to the player who wears Ascended gear. The only numbers that matter are the amount of opponents you face on the battlefield.

DocHolliday.5921:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Then you should consider playing SPvP.

I have no interest in SPvP.

Open world PvP (as in WvW) is quite fun, even though it’ll never be truly balanced. That’s because you can’t control how many players from the other server will play at any given time. Even if you balance the gear in WvW, that balance gets flushed down the toilet as soon as you notice you’re outnumbered 2 to 1.

And it could be even more fun. We’ve already gone over this. It’s no more relevant now than it was five pages back. None of this is any kind of argument against removing ascended gear advantage from WvW.

The point you’re missing is that there is no real advantage in WvW. As I stated above, you take all WvW gear and make them even across the board, and you still have no balance if you’re facing more opponents.

I truly think you belong in SPvP. It seems that you believe that you can do better if the other team has 5% to 10% less stats than you. But then you completely forget that the only thing that matters in WvW is the amount of players that rush you.

I’ll try to explain this in more simple terms (I’ll pray it’s simple enough): 50 players in nothing but Rare (Yellow) gear will crush your team of 25 in all Ascended gear.

Ricky.4706:

I remembered in gw 1 being frowned upon because I only had a +2 rune , not a +3 – I told em it shouldn’t be a big deal, they made me leave the team to go buy one lol ….it actually was a big deal, especially with the earth elemental spikes.

all the little 5 here …1 there and +1% crit – then add the infusions, in 6 items is a big deal.

You can’t compare GW1 to GW2. In the original game, you never had a group of 50 players rush your group of 15.

DocHolliday.5921:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

But back on topic. WvW is open world PvP. There is no forced gear balance as in SPvP. So you can walk in with any type of gear your character has, and start playing. If you run around fully stacked with Ascended, you have no more chance to take Stone Mist, than your teammate wearing all Masterwork gear.

No one cares if it’s “open world” PvP or not. GW1 proved that having balanced gear makes PvP better, not worse, no matter what kind of PvP it is.

Then you should consider playing SPvP. Open world PvP (as in WvW) is quite fun, even though it’ll never be truly balanced. That’s because you can’t control how many players from the other server will play at any given time. Even if you balance the gear in WvW, that balance gets flushed down the toilet as soon as you notice you’re outnumbered 2 to 1.

Which is why there’s also bi-monthly updates with new content. Ascended/Legendary gear progression is only one aspect of the game. People gathering and crafting for them is a way to keep busy. So is WvWing or SPvPing. So is the Living Story.

But back on topic. WvW is open world PvP. There is no forced gear balance as in SPvP. So you can walk in with any type of gear your character has, and start playing. If you run around fully stacked with Ascended, you have no more chance to take Stone Mist, than your teammate wearing all Masterwork gear.

morrolan.9608:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The first point can be easily fixed by the players themselves. The second point is already proven to be false, as there’s a tiny advantage, but not unfair.

No such thing has been proven, and 10% is not a tiny advantage in statistical terms it is significant.

Actually, it’s a proven fact that full Ascended gear means nothing if you have 3 guys in all Rare gear knocking you down. In that case, Rare > Ascended. The only advantage you have is having higher stats from Exotics. Game play-wise, it’s pretty meaningless.

Dark Catalyst.1028:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

morrolan.9608:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The other thread in the General forums should be merged here, and then closed. Ascended gear doesn’t give any guaranteed success in WvW.

That is not the argument.

I don’t actually agree with removing ascended gear from WvW what I do think happen is that it should be more easily available as anet said BiS gear would be.

Well, part of the argument is 1) complainers can’t afford Ascended, and 2) Ascended gives an unfair advantage.

The first point can be easily fixed by the players themselves. The second point is already proven to be false, as there’s a tiny advantage, but not unfair. I would say that being outnumbered is a far greater and unfair advantage in WvW.

I see we made progress from “it doesn’t make a difference” to “tiny advantage.” Good, good. Though still inaccurate because it doesn’t include the impact of ascended armor.

The people who were spouting that it “doesn’t make a difference” while also stating that they spent a boatload of gold, leveled crafting to 500 and spent weeks crafting ascended weapons (they don’t make a difference, remember?!) were beginning to luck foolish!

Actually… it doesn’t give an “overall” advantage. The advantage I spoke of is related to higher numbers (i.e. 2000 Power is more than 1995 Power). Even the addition of +1 attribute bonus is considered a “tiny advantage”.

Question: When will Anet make the Clocktower JP harder? I would very much like to see a “Tribulation Mode” added. Perhaps the instance can give the options for normal and Trib mode?

morrolan.9608:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The other thread in the General forums should be merged here, and then closed. Ascended gear doesn’t give any guaranteed success in WvW.

That is not the argument.

I don’t actually agree with removing ascended gear from WvW what I do think happen is that it should be more easily available as anet said BiS gear would be.

Well, part of the argument is 1) complainers can’t afford Ascended, and 2) Ascended gives an unfair advantage.

The first point can be easily fixed by the players themselves. The second point is already proven to be false, as there’s a tiny advantage, but not unfair. I would say that being outnumbered is a far greater and unfair advantage in WvW.

The achievement category in the Living World is completely optional. You aren’t being forced to do anything you don’t want. If you like to play WvW, just play it. Then, when you reach the Meta, then it’ll be a nice surprise.

Striker.9413:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Actually, Anet admitted that they underestimated the player base’s dedication to the game. Exotics were the final tier, until a majority of the players maxed out within months of the game’s release.

I don’t see a problem with this.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

So they added the next, and supposedly last tier, which is Ascended. So it wasn’t because of the vocal minority of the game that triggered it, it was a vast majority of active players.

They assumed that since a “majority” of players had exotics that we wanted another full tier of gear? Oh wait, they said it was going to be added from the start but didn’t tell anyone and are implementing it horribly. A player’s actions now does not tell you what they would like to see happen in the future.

And seeing as you have access to anet’s metrics, please let me know the number of full and non-full exotic players in October. If you can’t, then you can’t say kitten about anything being a majority.

Considering that Exotics are pretty common and cheap, that’s enough evidence to back Anet’s position on the matter.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

gimmethegepgun.1284:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Since it’s admitted that the complainers are in the minority, why would Anet make major changes to the game to appease the small, vocal minority?

That’s a very good question. Why did they try to appease the vocal minority of people who wanted vertical progression by adding ascended at all?

Actually, Anet admitted that they underestimated the player base’s dedication to the game. Exotics were the final tier, until a majority of the players maxed out within months of the game’s release. So they added the next, and supposedly last tier, which is Ascended. So it wasn’t because of the vocal minority of the game that triggered it, it was a vast majority of active players.

Was that before or after they claimed they had always intended to add ascended?

Colin mentioned it somewhere on the forums. I’d have to mine his posts to find the exact words.

The other thread in the General forums should be merged here, and then closed. Ascended gear doesn’t give any guaranteed success in WvW. They give you bonus stats, but that advantage is already canceled out when the opponents outnumber you on the battlefield.

Please stop making duplicate threads, because everything was already explained. You can read Gaile’s post here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Announcement-New-Support-System/first#post3077236

gimmethegepgun.1284:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Since it’s admitted that the complainers are in the minority, why would Anet make major changes to the game to appease the small, vocal minority?

That’s a very good question. Why did they try to appease the vocal minority of people who wanted vertical progression by adding ascended at all?

Actually, Anet admitted that they underestimated the player base’s dedication to the game. Exotics were the final tier, until a majority of the players maxed out within months of the game’s release. So they added the next, and supposedly last tier, which is Ascended. So it wasn’t because of the vocal minority of the game that triggered it, it was a vast majority of active players.

DocHolliday.5921:

gimmethegepgun.1284:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

DocHolliday.5921:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Ascended > Exotic. Therefore remove Ascended gear.
Exotic > Rare. Therefore remove Exotic gear.
Rare > Masterwork. Therefore remove Rare.
Masterwork > White. Therefore remove Masterwork.

I think the complainers would be happy if everyone was on the same level – Basic White gear. But they fail to realize that WvW is not SPvP. If they’re not happy with WvW, they should stick to the structured PvP part of the game, where everything is even.

But hark, there’s more:

Superior Runes can give an unfair advantage as well, since they add bonus stats to a player’s attributes. And since Superior Runes are so hard to come by in WvW… well, you know how the current argument goes.

The “complainers” appear to be the majority of the people who play WvWvW. Maybe you should go over to those forums and tell them exactly how their game mode is supposed to work and why their opinions mean nothing? Clearly, you’re the only person who’s opinion actually matters, right?

Actually, the complainers are the minority of the WvW player base. When you’re an active WvWer, like myself, you don’t see people having this argument in chat. What you’re seeing is just a few people upset that they can’t get Ascended gear.

Complainers are in the minority of EVERYTHING. Most people don’t speak up, regardless of their feelings on the matter. Do not mistake the silence of the silent majority with agreeing with the status quo.
And perhaps people aren’t complaining about it in chat because it clogs chat with things that aren’t, say, scouting reports or orders.

This, exactly.

I know how PvPers feel about having to do PvE to get BiS gear, whether they post about it or not. I know because I’ve been through this same issue before. Having BiS gear in WoW come from raids in vanilla was probably THE single most complained-about issue. Guess what happened? First expansion, they completely changed that. BiS PvP gear came from doing PvP. (I didn’t care for arena much myself, but the vast majority were thrilled.) And WoW went on to become the most successful American/Western MMO in history, and still is. That change had a lot to do with it. If you could get every single piece of ascended gear from doing nothing but PvP, and get it all in 1-2 months if you grind hardcore, the vast majority of the PvPers would be happy, and the few complaints left would be from outliers too few to matter.

So in a nutshell, that’s what needs to happen. They either need to remove the advantage from ascended gear, or make it all available via PvP for a reasonable amount of time and effort.

Since it’s admitted that the complainers are in the minority, why would Anet make major changes to the game to appease the small, vocal minority? Also, WvW is not SPvP. therefore it’s ok to use Ascended gear.

DocHolliday.5921:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Ascended > Exotic. Therefore remove Ascended gear.
Exotic > Rare. Therefore remove Exotic gear.
Rare > Masterwork. Therefore remove Rare.
Masterwork > White. Therefore remove Masterwork.

I think the complainers would be happy if everyone was on the same level – Basic White gear. But they fail to realize that WvW is not SPvP. If they’re not happy with WvW, they should stick to the structured PvP part of the game, where everything is even.

But hark, there’s more:

Superior Runes can give an unfair advantage as well, since they add bonus stats to a player’s attributes. And since Superior Runes are so hard to come by in WvW… well, you know how the current argument goes.

The “complainers” appear to be the majority of the people who play WvWvW. Maybe you should go over to those forums and tell them exactly how their game mode is supposed to work and why their opinions mean nothing? Clearly, you’re the only person who’s opinion actually matters, right?

Actually, the complainers are the minority of the WvW player base. When you’re an active WvWer, like myself, you don’t see people having this argument in chat. What you’re seeing is just a few people upset that they can’t get Ascended gear.

Side note – I’m not a hardcore WvW, yet I can afford to be fully geared in all Ascended items, including weapons. In fact, playing WvW makes getting Ascended gear easier, since they drop from rank chests, and Ascended level mats are as common as dirt from camp/tower/keep chests.

If you deleted the character, you can’t open the chest. To add to that, even if you remade your character, using the same name, I don’t think it’ll work as well. Soulbound items are connected to the specific character it was on.

Before you do anything, consider the fact that someone has all the information necessary to recover your account. That means either your e-mail is compromised, or someone physically has access to your information (such as reg codes, character info, date of purchase, etc). Anet doesn’t “give away” accounts. If they have all the information on you to switch e-mails and passwords, there’s nothing preventing the hacker from trying to take back your account again.

I would highly recommend wiping your harddrive, doing a fresh install, and creating a brand new e-mail after. If they have keyloggers on your system, a fresh install after a format will get rid of it. But if there’s a hacker physically nearby, and is using a packet sniffer (or whatever the hackers call it) to intercept your data via Wifi, then you need to stop using wireless.

The main argument is that when you take two equally skilled players, using the same profession and race combination, that Ascended gear will guarantee a victory over the non-Ascended gear opponent. One major flaw to this is that equally skilled players fighting one on one, using the same profession and race, is unique. You cannot use this argument as proof that Ascended gear needs to be removed, because 99.99999% of WvW isn’t like this. Having a small stat increase from Ascended gear will never guarantee wins in a real WvW fight. That is a proven fact, since no two players are exactly alike. You cannot measure skill level with numbers, therefore you cannot compare two different people.

This is how the current argument is going:

Ascended > Exotic. Therefore remove Ascended gear.
Exotic > Rare. Therefore remove Exotic gear.
Rare > Masterwork. Therefore remove Rare.
Masterwork > White. Therefore remove Masterwork.

I think the complainers would be happy if everyone was on the same level – Basic White gear. But they fail to realize that WvW is not SPvP. If they’re not happy with WvW, they should stick to the structured PvP part of the game, where everything is even.

But hark, there’s more:

Superior Runes can give an unfair advantage as well, since they add bonus stats to a player’s attributes. And since Superior Runes are so hard to come by in WvW… well, you know how the current argument goes.

Avatara.1042:

Crovax.7854:

ShinNakon.9085:

So what outfit is the most OP atm?

Still mad king imo.

The executioner is probably more OP. Especially in large scale battles.

Isn’t the Mad King’s shout AOE as well? So with a large Costume fight, that scores multiple hits… right?

Zylonite.5913:

Hi Anet, still waiting on developer feedback on all these queue times and skills lags/ etc that have been brought up since the Seasons started? In other words any news on removing all JPs from WvW maps on the next patch?

Queue times mean there’s lots of players who want to get into a WvW map. If it’s too much for you to handle, you could always transfer to a less populated world.

And by the way. WvW JPs are part of the Living World – Season 1 Meta. So you must do them if you want credit.

Images for all Ascended armors have been leaked for a long time now.

Galtrix.7369:

~~snip~~

WoW, you make some interesting points.

I think people need to realize that this whole thread is based off of the opinions of a player who is jealous they can’t have Ascended gear.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting good things. That should actually inspire the OP to actually go out and try to get his own BiS gear. Once that happens, a whole new world of Guild Wars 2 is opened up, and he can then experience the joys all of us have for this game.

RoyalPredator.9163:

As I’ve mentioned in an another thread, this is a “wrong” mentalism that keeps up the problem and diggs it deeper & deeper.

Get some social studies and test it out;
If you force someone to do not-enjoyable work (farmgrind) to earn something, they’ll order others to do the same when they’re the ones selling stuff. This works like it at 94,73% of Players.

It means its not matter how high price you sell a limited item, there always will be someone who will purchase it if that person can’t get it or something similar/better otherway.

You’re just missed my point. I’m not QQing, and can afford 200g skin. Just Won’t.
Look around. Users already started to use common skins instead of Dungeon Skins and RNG ones are very rare, but not because of their rarity. Because their unreasonably high prices. Ask people around. I did in UW and Piken. They say the same as I do

If you had enough of this conversation, just do what smart rich people do with the clever ones. Pay up to shut their mouth :P

You really want my item, and claim you can afford it. Yet you don’t want to buy it. That means you don’t really want it. That’s pretty straight forward. So why all this complaining about prices? It makes no sense.

And on a related note. If something is out of your price range, and you can’t afford it, it make sense that you can’t have it. Players are allowed to use common skins all they want. Rare skins are optional. Not sure what point you’re making with this one.

So… you want the Teq fight require more time to complete? No thanks. I like showing up, and killing him within 15 minutes. I don’t want pre-events that add to the time it takes to do the event.

Just join a Tequatl guild. Best solution to all your problems mate.

Toxins and pollution? MFW Captain Planet makes a cameo.

Winning the inaugural Season 1 of WvW by merely calculating points might be a bit controversial. One server in the top 3 or 4 might have a more favorable schedule in these first 7 weeks, thus artificially skewing the point totals in their favor. And I’m sure a lot of people will agree that winning 1st place like that doesn’t feel right. So, I propose a matchup format for future WvW seasons.

Introducing the WvW Playoffs

In a 3-way fight, you’ll always end up with a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place. The top 3 “Tier 1” servers (based on scoring) will duke it out, and the winning can claim ultimate victory. However, what if the line between the 3rd place and 4th place is blurred? Surely you don’t want to leave out an entire server based on computer tabulated scores. What we need is a playoff system that allows for head to head matches, instead of your typical 3-way WvW fights.

“How is this done?”

Anet could set up a match where as the top 4 servers, based on their season ending scores, go head to head in a separate Borderland. A semi-final round would be 1st place vs 4th place in Group A, and 2nd place vs 3rd place in Group B. Have the fight last your typical week, and the winners of each group goes to the finals match, with that winner taking all. Put a Loser’s Bracket for the remaining two servers, and then hand out rewards for all four places (i.e. 1st gets Gold Dolyak, 2nd gets Silver, 3rd gets Bronze, and 4th gets a “thanks for playing” mail from Devon).

“But WvW has always been a 3-way…”

This is where Anet Devs would come in. Everyone wants new maps, so what better incentive to win when you’re offered a chance to play in a modified server vs server map? There could be special maps designed for a head to head match up. It would require multiple maps, as each server can only have so many players on at a time. Perhaps two maps per grouping, with an increased population cap so more players can get in. If it’s head to head, perhaps each server’s cap could be raised to 150 players per. I’m no programmer, but 300 players in a map sounds doable.

If programming new maps would be too time consuming, you could use existing maps, were you’d place two BLs in each Group A and B. One BL would start one server in the Citadel, while the other BL would start that same server in the bottom spawns. That gives you some balance, as each grouping in semi and finals would start evenly.

“Server stacking for playoffs”

Some people will want to take advantage of the new playoffs by transferring near the end of the season. One way to prevent abuse would be similar to how the current system is set up. Whatever server the player starts the season on would be their home server (for WvW purposes), regardless of if they transferred after. To take it further, players who transfer to the top 4 servers after the season starts would not be able to participate in the playoffs. This prevents late spying, and unfair WvW leeching off of the top 4.

So that’s my idea. Thoughts and criticisms are welcomed.

etrigan.4213:

The only thing this match has show is that SoS doesn’t belong up in Gold.

Not sure if SBI or FA deserves or wants it, but SoS most certainly(as predicted) can’t hang.

Go get them Mag!!

I do give SoS credit for having an organized EBG. While Mags does well on the BLs, looks like SoS put all their chips into doing well on EBG. Last nite, SoS was running over TC for a good hour.

The only bad decision I saw was when we were having a 3 way SM fight. SoS decided to try and gank us on the North hall. We ended up wiping them, and then having to retreat when TC rushed us after.

arKRazor.8654:

I’m simply saying that SM is notorious for not awarding capture credit. If it awards no credit then it will not contribute to your achievement. Or are you saying you are getting credit for the castle cap but not ticking up for the season one tally?

Yeah, I get the Gold level credit after I cap, but it doesn’t give the Living World – Season 1 achievement credit. Sorry I wasn’t more clear about this. But I’m hearing that some people are getting credit, while others are not. Not sure how this bug is triggered. Perhaps next time instead of being in the circle, I’ll just take down walls and a gate, and tag some guards.

To add, I did get 1 achievement cap credit on Friday, after the matches were reset. Since then, I’ve been stuck at 1 / 5 on my logs.

Just a quick question: Since TC is kicking our booties in points, why do they always run from open field fights, esp. when they outnumber the Mag groups? It’s frustrating to see 40+ TCs run into a Tower, away from 20~ Mags chasing them.

RoyalPredator.9163:

The problem isn’t that if you put up a legendary weapon for ~2000g.
Exploit cames when prices are not reasonably high. When they close the cycle;
Botting for gold, selling it for real money, purchasing more account to bot Even more gold, meanwhile spending the half of their gold to buy up stocks and re-order normal prices. Nonfarmer players can’t keep up, so they’ll buy gold from these illegal traders, and the circle closed. Players end up in need to buy illegaly or even worse become a “bot”. Meanwhile these sellers gets their pockets full of real cash.

Buying gem to turn it onto gold is a good idea, but it would take more times of the original game price to buy something better. Isn’t this crazy for you?
Maybe a direct trade that isn’t ~80g for 2000 Gem. You would get 150 from the grey market, so people risk it, but not worth to mention how many of them buys a new account after the permaban (if caught).

I know only one solution for this problem so far. Sell skins STRAIGHT. As hundreds of customers asking for it daily. for over a year, and even before the release…
No more RNG. Its 800Gem? Okay, let me get my mastercard out of my wallet, honey O.o We don’t even need these items being on the TP anyway…
And if a skin has a 2000g of unlock (like Zenith skins work), that also can worth it.

1) I don’t buy Gold from RMT companies. Don’t need to, since I can make money from the Trading Post.

2) If you, as a non-farmer, can’t keep up, then buy Gems from Anet’s store, and then exchange them for Gold.

3) No, I don’t want all these skins to be purchasable from the Gem Store. Then I won’t be able to make money off of the skins that I get.

4) If you don’t like Black Lion chests, feel free to purchase the skins for Gold on the TP instead of Gem keys. You bypass RNG instantly like that.

I’m talking about the new Living World Meta Achievement, and not getting credit for SM caps. This achievement only came out a few days ago, on Friday. So far, all other categories in the meta are counting properly.

RoyalPredator.9163:

I’m saying Anet SHOULD control the market’s frames. (They do with their decisions anyway).
I would not let Players to have full control, because they exploit the system for their own goods, and it becomes normal by the time. Just like IRL.

If they still stand at nongrinding, then don’t let the prices go insane…

It’s not exploitation if someone is willing to buy my goods for my prices. If you don’t like it, tell everyone to stop buying at my retail prices. And even if another seller comes in and undercuts my prices, my goods still sell after the other guy’s stuff is sold.

If you REALLY want my stuff, and can’t afford it, perhaps you should buy some Gems, and then exchange to Gold. You get about 4 Gold per 100 Gems.

Anet needs to fix this ASAP. We took SM twice tonite, and each time no one got credit for the WvW Meta. Broke the outer wall and inner gate. Killed guards. Killed Lord. Stood in circle. And nothing. I’m hearing that lots of servers are having this same problem.

The only SM credit some people were getting was from 1 hour before the season started on Friday, when WvW was giving Meta credit after an update, but before matches were reset. Is anyone else having this problem constantly?

Once people understand how economies work, they’ll understand why I sell rare stuff for lots of Gold.

On a separate note:

RoyalPredator.9163:

There are players & teams who own incredible amount of game gold compared to the most of the players. Guess what they do with it? They made their own “prestige” on TP, and can manipulate the market as they wish. It happens.

See below:

John Smith.4610:

No.