Guild Wars 2

Anyone compare wvw updates with spvp and pve? Yer don’t……

Dcollins.6973:

Win!! And it’s only Tuesday suckas!!! lmfao GO JADE QUARRY!!!!

Don’t do that please, you embarrass yourself and the community.

Aurust.8961:

I didnt read any of the posts here at all since im assuming its more qq about thieves. Get more survival stats and immobilize. Stop crying.

Bet you he was a thief, lol.

I’ve long maintained that as a thief player I am OP. Even tonight I stomped a number of opposing server players. Never died once and escaped with relative ease every time.

Most people that don’t want the changes to thief, exclusively use thief and have no real perspective. I have a number of geared up lvl 80’s now and I use my thief when I want to relax in WvW. I do a lot with very little effort.

In many ways I don’t want my thief to be nerfed because I have so much fun with it. What makes me ask for a nerf is because I have perspective. When I play on my other toons, it’s just insane what a thief can do.

enji.7459:

I even gave them the benefit of the doubt for oh……almost 7 months. pssssssssh

I agree, the 6 month mark is a milestone and a point to assess what WvW has evolved into (de-evolved?).

Orbs removed.

Culling worse? at least no better, I prefer to think of culling now as a different dog with different fleas.

We got Break Out Events!? Who cares, upper tier servers don’t even use it.

They the big ones, oh, they did take siege out of the JP!

The next milestone will be one year. What will people’s assessment be then?

The bots are becoming much more sophisticated. The age of rangers doing laps with bears seems like a thing of the past.

I have seen these teleporting node farmers. They appear inside the node, farm it, then disappear. It’s over in literally seconds, in which time you have a space to respond.

Retrospek has some interesting ideas.

There is only one armour type in WvW, p/t/v with one skin per light/medium/heavy. In other words armour selection in WvW is a joke.

WvW is really what people are arguing in this thread one way or another. You won’t get a new system so I wouldn’t ask for it, it’s better to ask for enhancements in WvW concerning the style of play you’re after.

It’s getting a little hysterical nowadays so maybe you shouldn’t visit the World vs World forum. But it’s worth mentioning that entire guilds have collapsed because of lack of WvW support by ArenaNet, have a read of this for more information:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/WvW-won-t-become-what-we-hoped-it-would/first

Personally I love to WvW and it’s my favourite aspect of GW2 but it is really in spite of itself. Its the only aspect of GW2 where significant aspects have been taken out (removal of orbs) and no significant content added (they added break out events but its designed to stop being 100% dominated, so gave nothing to higher tier servers).

In any event WvW/open world pvp is not on ArenaNet’s significant to do list. Those of you who like story driven content should be happy however.
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Colin: I would prefer we do it more, you know, story-driven I think it’s more compelling and I think that’s more where we are headed. I’m curious actually, that’s really something that we’re walking down that path now. Is that compelling to your guys? I mean, take everything that happened in January, and condense it down to say, a weeks worth of content and then the next week there’s more story that builds on that. Is that something that would interest you guys?

Absolutely. It’s really good.

Colin: Is there anyone here who doesn’t like this idea?

Well, it doesn’t affect those who do WvW much.

Colin: I think that’s fair. It’s really not intended for the WvW specific player.

http://dragonseason.com/Front/tabid/124/EntryId/211/Lunch-with-Colin-Johanson-Part-II.aspx

morganabanana.3517:

It’s not so much an issue of skill access, but an issue of frustrating maintenance each time a swap is made.

This is what makes sense to me and most others. RoSeViLLe.9547 gives us a wall of text arguing against but honestly it comes across that they’re stuck arguing their own point of view than what seems clear to everyone else.

Gab Superstar.4059:

I hardly even read these interviews anymore. Absolutely no information is offered in any form.

10/10 for the interviewer. 0/10 for ArenaNet who classes WvW as very low priority.
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Colin: I would prefer we do it more, you know, story-driven I think it’s more compelling and I think that’s more where we are headed. I’m curious actually, that’s really something that we’re walking down that path now. Is that compelling to your guys? I mean, take everything that happened in January, and condense it down to say, a weeks worth of content and then the next week there’s more story that builds on that. Is that something that would interest you guys?

Absolutely. It’s really good.

Colin: Is there anyone here who doesn’t like this idea?

Well, it doesn’t affect those who do WvW much.

Colin: I think that’s fair. It’s really not intended for the WvW specific player.

http://dragonseason.com/Front/tabid/124/EntryId/211/Lunch-with-Colin-Johanson-Part-II.aspx

Any of the guilds transferring to BG formerly HoD?

Ljiona.9142:

Instead of trying to get better we just pile on one server….

Except now people have to use GEMS HAHAHAHAHA (cue evil NCSoft corporate laugh).

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

I don’t care to transfer to JQ personally, can’t speak for others from SoS.

You guys are too easy to squish. The ones that transferred to your server before paid actually improved your quality but they still can’t make up for the rest of you.

If your post is synonymous with your name we can assume JQ is a good server!!

oldephartte.4369:

With all their rationalizations and justifications in favour of the sorry state of WVW Tier 1, JQ reminds me of nothing so much as one of those people who claim that when they break wind there is no offensive odour.

Phartte you’re on the wrong server then….

ThaOwner.7560:

i feel like WM was the only big guild to not do that.

Good point. Love or hate WM but at least they make a stand for who they are.

Sardonia.8196:

I do not think those that want a competitive bracket will ever get a competitive bracket if it is score they are focusing on.

A flaw of WvW, amongst many. By mid-week it’s usually clear who will win so the fair weather players stop playing hence the discrepancies.

Irony.5203:

Not really a new bandwagon server imo. We’ve been a popular server to transfer to for a while now.

It’s a refreshed old bandwagon server?

Colin: I would prefer we do it more, you know, story-driven I think it’s more compelling and I think that’s more where we are headed. I’m curious actually, that’s really something that we’re walking down that path now. Is that compelling to your guys? I mean, take everything that happened in January, and condense it down to say, a weeks worth of content and then the next week there’s more story that builds on that. Is that something that would interest you guys?

Absolutely. It’s really good.

Colin: Is there anyone here who doesn’t like this idea?

Well, it doesn’t affect those who do WvW much.

Colin: I think that’s fair. It’s really not intended for the WvW specific player.

http://dragonseason.com/Front/tabid/124/EntryId/211/Lunch-with-Colin-Johanson-Part-II.aspx

ANet is not focused on WvW, don’t expect much from the update.

Niim.9260:

People could easily be happy that their server is now losing and enjoy the challenge, enjoy going down a tier or two so you face new opponents for a change, but no they jump ship to the next rising star.

Your statement resonates with me.

When transfers were free you had the opportunity to try the waters of different servers. Now that it’s paid transfer…. well… if you didn’t know the community you were with, do you really know the community you’re now going to. Concurrently does that community know what you’re bringing (baggage and all).

Vilkata.4725:

I don’t think there will ever be an easy answer to nightcapping.

That’s because there is no nightcapping. The term was invented by those who have no insight into what 24/7 MMO means.

ANet have already made it clear WvW operates 24/7 and if you can’t organise the coverage then your server will lose in those areas.

Naming servers NA and EU servers was designed to highlight location and therefore where your best ping would be. Unfortunately people have used it to create ‘us’ and ‘them’.

sostronk.8167:

I preferred it when the arguing was one liners. These walls of text are distracting my score updates!

lol! I feel the same.

I’m at the stage where I see a wall of text and think (insert rant here) and skip over it.

I think most hardcore players read and post in the forums lol! Still interesting thread.

Omg guys, this thread was about removing the toxicity. Instead you found another thread to post your toxicity in!

I think it says more about those individual posters than anything to do with the servers they come from, all of which have exceptional people on them. Perhaps its a good example and highlights the points made by some of the more rational posters in this thread.

Josh P.1296:

I agree it can ‘feel’ boring seeing the same names for several weeks on end, but I think this is as intended by Anet to provide as best and fun match ups as possible because then again, they are just names.

Hi Josh,

Just wondering if you still find it ‘fun’ seeing the same names again and again.

Josh P.1296:

3. JQ is stacked as kitten (don’t deny it) and has a 20k lead in less than 2 days.

Josh, SoS had been winning previous weekends after free transfer’s ended. JQ numbers didn’t change.

Anyone know why this thread was moved to linksville (rofl wut!?)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Thieves-rule-W3/page/6#post1485494

ArenaNet doesn’t want to hear this. Moderator’s delete thief threads or move them to the linksville section (rofl wut!?)

This thread was in the WvW section:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Thieves-rule-W3/page/6#post1485494

wish.3102:

I’ve gotten like 50 badges the last 30 minutes without using siege.

That’s weak. I get 100 badges in 20 mins using my bare hands.

Nice of Rooster to make this post.

It’s been no secret that this tier 1 match has been the most toxic in recent history. While we could single out specific servers and discuss them here, it’s not the point.

The point is that there are elements from each server, who have communities that have also found the current toxic environment equally distasteful.

The best thing for those that want to avoid the poison is to not by into it. Easier said than done, especially with the nature of internet communities. Psychologists refer to a term known as ‘deindividuation’. What it is refering to is if someone is not held personally accountable for their actions, that is if you can’t interact with them directly say at work/school/socially people will not care, infact they are inclined to behave less than human, because there is not this level of accountability. What it means is that some of the poison that flows is actually funny for some people, because at the end of the day, they have nothing invested and can’t be held accountable.

That can be hard, especially for those people that have invested a lot into their guilds, communities and people they play alongside.

To get at the core of many of these issues is something beyond GW2 and ArenaNet, it’s much more fundamental to human behaviour and unfortunately the current match up has seen the worse kinds of those types of people.

For those of you that do care, about your guilds, communities and people you play along side. Keep your head up. If you find the people that are creating the poison, remove them from you circle. If there are others you see in the middle of it, don’t by into it, if anything, offer support.

I encourage people to rise above the gossip because thing about gossip is that it’s insatiable, you can never get enough.

Respect.

Score up date.

Having an epic time.

Score update.

Taken from top EB JP.

Score update.

Picture taken bottom of EB JP.

I agree with this post. Containing it to in or out of combat would limit any exploits. Manually changing, especially dual weapons is unnecessarily fiddly.

Never underestimate the power of Raw.

That’s what the score reset was about, to change things up. What it would have meant however was that you would either be stomped by a server for an entire week or you would stomp another server until it all stablised again.

The Glicko system is not zero-sum meaning that you just have to weather the same servers for awhile. Because as the tiers stablise the winning/losing degrees lessen.

Moderator post:

“Hello,

If you have any question or concerns about a possible hack, please report this to our customer support team.

These forums are not meant to discuss about cheats/hacks/exploits of any kind, so please refrain from creating such thread in the future.

Thank you for your understanding".

I’m curious because I just came from a closed thread about hacking.

What EXACTLY is the best way to report a hacker/exploiter? I think i read once you use the right click and select botting (or was it spamming).

What do you send to a customer support team?
“umm, i saw a guy, dunno what profession, wasn’t in a guild but he was teleport hacking, cause I saw it, was from (insert) server”.

To date the best report mechanisms I’ve seen is using fraps and uploading to utube?

vipeout.2485:

Only a WvW player still visits this thread hoping that anybody at ANet gives a kitten about it…

Only a WvW player is so pessimistic of future WvW.

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

I am not a carebear and jps suck.

Awwww don’t be like that, I bet you got a free portal at some stage despite your hate

Only a WvW player could follow this:

One profession to rule them all, one button to find them (spam 2),
One low level to bring them all and in the stealth bind them.

In the EB JP yesterday I was waiting just before dark room, the area where you grab the torches, for some allies to catch up. I saw a warrior from SoR with blue armour, he saw me and we considered each other for a moment before he went into the dark room about his business, he was nice.

A short time later a female SoR warrior arrived and stood back away from me. I think she thought she was hiding from me, anyways her male guardian friend arrived and they walked past me and started to enter dark room only to turn around and start to unleash some hurt on me. I was able to walk back against the ledge and being on my mesmer pulled the warrior off, leaving me to fight the guard. He seemed to struggle and soon run away into the dark room alone. Shortly after some allies caught up and we walked into the dark room and killed the guardian.

I’m not sure what exactly transpired but sometime later I saw the blue warrior from SoR climbing up the arena after I had already made top. I remembered him, he was nice. There had been a few other allies on the top and I told them to leave him alone.

A few started to fight but stopped after I asked them nicely, however one allied mesmer ignored me I followed the SoR warrior to the top, escorting him as best I could. At one point he did turn around and unleashed a hammer skill at me, I think because he was unsure of my intentions. It seemed to be more, keep you distance then wanting to attack me. In any event the nice blue SoR warrior made top and got chest, only to be attacked by a SoS thief!

I jumped in to help the nice SoR warrior as best I could but the thief had the drop on him and the warrior had already been worn down by my allied mesmer who wouldn’t leave him alone. The warrior jumped of the side, onto the pillar, but was downed.

The thief then went to the ledge, about to jump onto the pillar to finish the warrior. I then pulled the thief from the top and he fell to the ground. By this time the allied mesmer was back and proceeded to hit the downed SoR warrior, again I asked him not to, but he wouldn’t listen. At this point I spotted the SoS thief below and engaged him, we skirmished a little before he disengaged. I then looked back up, to the pillar where the downed SoR warrior was, he was gone….. but at least he got chest.

I think that’s why I like EB JP, those little skirmishes and unique personalised stories that I only ever encounter there, as such, I do spend some time there, much to the dismay of my allies at times.

What’s your story?

Anyone know why this thread was moved to linksville? lol
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Thieves-rule-W3/page/6#post1485494

Samhayn.2385:

At this point it is useless trying to talk to anti-thief people. You can exain all day how to beat thief and all you get is “why should I have too”. Why should oh have too? Have to what use the skills given to you in the game to counter other players in a pvp situation? Come on!

Your missing the point. Anytime anyone talks about how OP a thief is, you guys give a long list of what people should be doing. Its not a question why should I have to, its a question why should I have to do so much compared to every other profession.

At this point it is useless trying to talk to pro-thief people.

Fizzlepip.5218:

SoPP.7034:

I don’t think that people should have to plan, strategise, use specific gear, skills, traits and armour all to survive one profession. That’s game breaking.

It’s not really this so much as knowing what to do with your profession to counter them. I said it in my original post on this thread: Thief combat is entirely different from every other profession on the game. Naturally, then, it takes a bit of a different strategy to counter them. (In other words, not something you would necessarily do against others.) I honestly believe that lots would be solved if people just created Thieves to see what it’s like. That’s not OP, it’s just different.

I have a lvl 80 thief Ive geared up and is actually the toon I use in WvW when I want a more relaxing session. I rarely die, harass constantly, kill regularly and even I feel the thief is OP.

I honestly believe that lots would be solved if thieves just created different professions to see what it’s like. It is OP, it’s not just different.

I don’t think that people should have to plan, strategise, use specific gear, skills, traits and armour all to survive one profession. That’s game breaking.

JQ is considered to have all round best coverage for NA. But any of the tier 1 or 2 servers have significant numbers playing at most times of the day.

The conversations have evolved but thief’s remain the same. As I type this I’m aware of at least 2 thief threads on the front page with over 1000k views (even more on page 2).

Have a read of them at your leisure.

Altho tbh be honest, I think the WvW community is at the stage where they hope ANet will just do SOMETHING for WvW general.

One profession to rule them all, one button to find them (spam 2),
One low level to bring them all and in the stealth bind them.

This thread resonates with me and I +1 the OP. I think many of us are frustrated with the lack of support for WvW.

I think what’s the biggest concern is not the posts here, but the many who have stopped posting altogether.

The more i read this thread the more i want answers. Concurrently, the more i read the less likely it is that ANet will respond.

The reason is because, as most of you would know if you’ve been following, ANet are so far behind relative to what the WvW community expects. That ANY answer we get from them is going to be total bull kitten. I’m not expecting much from this March update.

Cactus.2710:

It might be different if ANet showed any indication at all that they cared and were working on the key issues, but they don’t say anything and they don’t do anything.

They had to close their own thread because of the backlash.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Upcoming-WvW-Updates/page/4#post1392118

TheGreatA.4192:

With necromancer if you have life leech attacks, you will see green numbers each time you hit a thief in stealth.

As an example:

http://youtu.be/EZSqtDayenM

7:05

The closest thing we have to a counter stealth skill…