Guild Wars 2

Pandabro.8743:

I don’t think we’ll ever completely get away from having support/tank/DPS type of builds but at least their is a lot of variety within classes instead of each only being able to do one, maybe two roles.

Yea, so much variety but only 1, max 2 that really works good.

Ioflux.4369:

DeathPanel.8362:

Ioflux.4369:

DeathPanel.8362:

Sovta.4719:

DeathPanel.8362:

There’s no such thing as dungeon master prestige.

Dungeons are done by route memorization and repetition, as is the standard in every mmo.

This isn’t a twitch fps shooter, getting the rarer achievements in this game just means you have too much time on your hands, not actual skill.

And why are still so many noobs in this game? This game does NOTHING to encourage you to be better player, just selfish exploiter/grinder (MF, RNG and taging in events and so)

Because just like in real life you will have people that are just bad at it. (Bad at gearing, bad at builds, bad at listening.)
There is also the possibility they are actually new to the game itself having bought it recently.

It does not change the fact that as a mmo with dungeon instances the key to beating them is through memorization, not actual “skills”.

So to say something has “lost its prestige” in this game is absurd since the only thing they indicate is the amount of time and tedium one is willing to suffer through.

News flash: Memorization is a skill.

Newsflash, it’s not.

Memorization is something anything with a brain has.

We are not talking about remembering complex algorithms, we are talking about simple grade school level memorization.

Are you a skilled typer? If so, how is that possible? Your motor “memory” remembers where the keys to press is.

You’re a doctor who knows how to operate surgery? How is that possible? You studied anatomy extensively throughout the years and “remembered” everything you’ve learned to obtain your PhD.

Memory is a skill. Not everyone memorizes / learns at the same speed.

Press button 1, then press 3 then 2. Good job!!! Now you are dungeon master!

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It’s still easy (30+ here) and drops are same for me. Not trolling.

HannaDeFreitas.4236:

The irony of this is that gating was created as a counter for grinders.

The habit of people in MMO to burn all content immediately greatly undermines the longevity of the game and creates big disparities from casual players and hardcore players, therefore companies are forced to counter this by placing gates that prevent players from exhausting content faster than they should.
These “gates” are a mere measure to prevent people to use grinding to get to things faster than it’s intended to.

And you still have to grind
What happened to skill based game?

It’s just excuse for this major class imbalance.

What memorization are you talking about? It’s not like learning human anatomy.

Toxyn.9608:

I think many people (myself included) would not have an issue with the current daily system if Ascended amulets and accessories were also obtainable in Fractals (where it is required for further progress).

Yea, with all these nerfs you don’t need even exotics outside the FotM.

CoF 1 and FotM still have better drops, you could find exotic cheaper then 2g before, so no change, just illusion of not wasting time.

DeathPanel.8362:

There’s no such thing as dungeon master prestige.

Dungeons are done by route memorization and repetition, as is the standard in every mmo.

This isn’t a twitch fps shooter, getting the rarer achievements in this game just means you have too much time on your hands, not actual skill.

And why are still so many noobs in this game? This game does NOTHING to encourage you to be better player, just selfish exploiter/grinder (MF, RNG and taging in events and so)

EndlessDreamer.6780:

As a Ranger I have:

Been a full power house DPS normal damage
Been a full condition damage DPS
Been a full support, spirit user
Been a full healer, support user
Been a kiter/tank

All within the spectrum of a single dungeon.

Holy Trinity my rear end, I can be whatever I want to be as long as it’s useful. That’s what makes this game fun.

There is no NEED for a tank, healer, dps, but taking on that role can be helpful at times. It’s not pigeon holing you in to a single role you will play every single time.

In my current build, I am support/condition damage/damage mitigation (kiting). And I can change that up depending on which skills I use and how I use them to change the situation.

And as Guardian i can be better then any of those roles and i’m needed at high lvl fractals, also warrior. So there really isn’t holy trinity, just holy duo + mesmer.

Players had constructive criticism and they ignored pretty much 95% of it, now players are leaving and those who stay see that normal discussion is pointless.

Just wanted to say we are all doing control and support, some more, some less, but at the end DPS is the thing. And Guardian. So instead of holy trinity we have Holy Guardian + DPS for “harder” PVE (like there is any) and Holy Warriors + Mesmer for grind.

This is appears even worse then raids, my guild is now going to do it on even worse nolife style time (saturaday 9 GMT!) so gj arenanet, if next patch fails, wich probably will, or you continue nerfing everything it will be good bye for good and i know there are thousands that will quit too.

VOLKON.1290:

<—- Balanced mesmer. I do damage, control and support as needed through weapons skills and swaps as well as utilities and traits that supplement the various aspects.

I am my own trinity.

So basicly you are nothing just have that time wrap. :P

Whoevere designed arah needs to make dungeons in future and only him!

treborIRL.4521:

my guild was at T2. waiting to start T3 later this week. having a big guild though i must say the experience was very unorganized. “ping wp plz” “dont start with out me!” “why did you start so fast!” “where do we go” “where do we meet” – people actually leaving guild due to frustration. the guild got it done though.

Pls can you tell me if you can do mission only once when it’s unlocked and how long it lasts?

Sylosi.6503:

Sovta.4719:

Jordo.5913:

PvP in this game is supposed to be “I beat my enemy because of skill”. W

When was this? It was always zergfest.

If you only ever follow the zerg, others roam solo / small group and shockingly enough encounter other solo / small groups, others do G v G (with equal numbers), ascended gear will increasingly make a diference as they add it to more slots.

For solo roamers i don’t think ascended or any gear is problem, thiefs and mesmer invisibility amd elementalist who CAN’T be killed 1v1 if player is good (at least he will run away) are much bigger issues for me.

Jordo.5913:

PvP in this game is supposed to be “I beat my enemy because of skill”. W

When was this? It was always zergfest.

It’s funny that “expansion worth content” turns out to be Pink Quaggan. We probably won’t see expansion worth content even when expansion goes out.

Question for programmers: How long do you think it takes to make 1 (ONE) map and import it in this game? At this rate i’m wondering will we see more then 10 maps.

Fay.2735:

Sovta.4719:

Most of them are grind based now anyway. You want Legendary? Don’t bother learning the game, reroll warrior and go CoF nolife style.

As I said, it’s the entire package not just a legendary. Not everything can be bought and those who do it is plain as day to the community whether or not the player is actually any good if they care enough to find out.

But how can you find out now how good is someone without seeing him in action? No way, achievement points and title can give you some hint but that’s it. Remember you can’t see other player lvl in FotM or things like that.

Fortuna.7259:

EvoNeiko.8930:

I love this game. (Free) and just so much fun. i seen this new content coming and was vary happy to see and couldn’t wait. (Small Guild 5People atm just friends) We don’t do PVP or WVW. just don’t care for it. but then the content comes out and i see that my small guild could never do these. i’m disapointed. i would join another guild but i was removed from a large guild cus (1. i don’t have a mic. 2.I wasn’t always active. Don’t have all day to play) so i look at this new stuff and go cool. not like i’ll ever do it. but i been enjoying this game with what it had. just wish more people would get out of Lion’s and Divinity and play in orr more. always to dead. but great content as i can see. wish i could do them but o well i’m going back to what i was doing and enjoing the rest of the game. can’t wait to read about the next stuff

Don’t worry, the next thing will probably be to make you WvW. Enjoy.

Instead of WvW change we got WoW change.

Fay.2735:

I think prestige comes in an entire package. Titles, Skins, Achievement points. I would like it if people could see your achievements and when you earned them.

Most of them are grind based now anyway. You want Legendary? Don’t bother learning the game, reroll warrior and go CoF nolife style.

Some guild missions could be instanced zones like in GW1, that would be really nice (didn’t play it so i’m not sure what they were, but sound nice)

Ratty.5176:

Eliyahu.1467:

The only excuse for failing on Simin before the update was if she bugged — which was a rare occurrence much like Lupicus bugging.

There was absolutely no requirement for a certain party make up — any combination of classes could do the fight. If you failed it was because your team couldn’t run sparks worth a kitten

http://i.imgur.com/iE0VjkP.jpg

You know what that is? That’s a Necro, an Ele, a Mesmer, and 2 Engineers downing Simin. The fight did not need a nerf in the least. It needed a bug fix for a rare bug, that’s it. The only other barrier to completing it was between the chair and keyboard.

not really surprising you had decent condition damage and AOE, now try doing it with 2 entirely healing build Guardians and a Ranger, very painful. Felt like hitting head against a brick wall. She was most definitely a DPS race.

So you had bad party setup, so what? Change it or don’t do it. It’s not like now EVERYTHING have to be doable with EVERY single possible party setup and build. (most of them suck anyway)

CassieGold.7460:

Hope this helps: the unlock is expensive, the mission itself is not. So, your guild can build the mission and run it several times durring the week to ensure members get to participate, it’s not cost prohibitave to to so in a guild of the size you mention.

It’s ok then, guess i will have to wait and see.

Eliyahu.1467:

The only excuse for failing on Simin before the update was if she bugged — which was a rare occurrence much like Lupicus bugging.

There was absolutely no requirement for a certain party make up — any combination of classes could do the fight. If you failed it was because your team couldn’t run sparks worth a kitten

http://i.imgur.com/iE0VjkP.jpg

You know what that is? That’s a Necro, an Ele, a Mesmer, and 2 Engineers downing Simin. The fight did not need a nerf in the least. It needed a bug fix for a rare bug, that’s it. The only other barrier to completing it was between the chair and keyboard.

+100

Could help a little, but not in a long term. Only having 4-5 maps and proffesion “balance” will make those players go away soon.
They should copy TF2 system, give community option to make new maps and other things (more “funny” cosmetics, emotes). In Team Fortress 2 some classes were better then others on some maps/modes and other way around, that’s why it was easier to balance them there.

kash.9213:

Sovta.4719:

I know it’s troll topic and i’m sorry for that, but i really wannt to know answer (mod can close it after or pm me, again sorry)
I’m in a big guild (465 members, around 200 active) and i still have to wait till saturday for first guild mission. I won’t make it ofcourse cause it’s saturday evening, so i’m wondering are they repeatable (i mean you can do them as much as you want daily, but get reward only for the first time) and how long they last? 5 min, 15 min, a hour?

What I take from all the posts is that there’s an influence cost to unlock a mission type, then however much influence to buy the mission within one of the areas, like Economy. So, it sounds like they’re like any of the other consumable guild buffs, you buy, you use, you save up for another. I think you’ll have to find a group within your guild or find another guild who will run them during your prime time unless they have enough influence to buy multiple missions at a time.

I don’t see why they don’t make it like this: Unlock guild mission, it takes 5 guild members to start it, Guild Mission option lasts for 24h, any 5 guys in guild can start/play it after it’s made and you get reward for finishing it for first time. (maybe some small reward for helping others later)
Also you can join in some parts of other guild mission, but not the whole mission or something like that.

Lady Sara Goldheart.2764:

Problem is that you ineviatebly get against a full premade team if no one was found in lower brackets ( e.g. duos or trios ).
Best would be to copy what Riot does. Only allow to apply as duo for SoloQ .
Same goes for matchmaking, seperate the brackets.

This!
And option to play only one match, that way everyone can just join in, not having to wait for 8 teams.

lunarminx.3624:

Blaeys.3102:

The biggest concern I have is small PVE guilds remaining competitive as it pertains to recruitment and retention.

By placing the first mission at Rank 5 in Art of War, a tier dedicated to WvW in the past (and thus, something many small PVE guilds may have ignored completely up to this point), you are ensuring that smaller guilds who dont have deep wells of influence will not have access to these missions for some time to come – while huge guilds do right away (and will thus become more enticing recruitment-wise).

I understand the need to partition the content and make it something guilds – even small guilds – have to work for. It just seems that the requirements for the initial mission – specifically rank 5 in Art of War – may end up hurting small PVE guilds considerably right off the bat.

Agreed and everyone in my small guild feels the same way. no we are not going to merge/join another to be able to do this. It’s like they didn’t think about anything they put into this patch at all. I call it a patch because of the way it crapped on so many things it can’t be called an update.

I’m in big guild and still worried about guild missions, i play this game cause it didn’t force you to play when you don’t want (read – raids). But now if it takes days to wait for guild mission and it lasts short, on top of that if they are not repeatable i don’t see what’s the point of them, just bring in raids. :P
There are many IF’s above, i hope they will come out the best way, but after seeing every patch after halloween i’m very sceptic.

At least you had full team, we were 4 against premade team.

fishybill.6908:

Thanks for the new pvp map Anet but seriously the only classes it suits is the 3 classes with the most mobility or bunkers and the 3 classes people complain the most about!

Elementalists: Can ride the lightning with the orb yet no one else can use speed buffs

Thieves: Can use infiltrators arrow to shadow step traversing up and down the points, capping them even before the team can get back.

Mesmers: Well, just portals!

There you have it? Game over just bring a couple of Eles, a Thief, a Guardian and a Mesmer, game won!

Was this the intention? Are we being shoe horned into specific setups?

Comments?

Also elementalist passive buff from air attunement works with orb, and that earth aura that is against CC.

Lordrosicky.5813:

The new map completely changes the bunker/roamer dynamic. It really is a huge change. And its fun…no….its INCREDIBLE! :P

Did you actually see elementalist on new this new map?

I know it’s troll topic and i’m sorry for that, but i really wannt to know answer (mod can close it after or pm me, again sorry)
I’m in a big guild (465 members, around 200 active) and i still have to wait till saturday for first guild mission. I won’t make it ofcourse cause it’s saturday evening, so i’m wondering are they repeatable (i mean you can do them as much as you want daily, but get reward only for the first time) and how long they last? 5 min, 15 min, a hour?

Correct me if i’m wrong and i hope i am: So now i have to wait till saturday evening and i’m in big guild (465 members, around 100 active) to do the first guild mission. Of course i want make it cause it’s saturday evening, so what now? Do i have to wait days for another guild mission? And how long do they last? 5 min, 15 min, a hour?

Can you still repeat guild mission after it’s done? (not cause of reward, casue your guild is playing it when you can’t make it) If not. how are guild missions diffrent from raids philosophy?

Gilgamesh.2561:

Don’t make sensationalist statements. By claiming it’s the worst PvP ever, you’re claiming you’ve played every MMO. Have you played every MMO? All 100+ of them? I doubt it.

It’s fine to have an opinion, but be accurate about it: “YOU think this is the worst MMO of the MMOs you have played.”

Just copy LoL system and be done with it.

Agreed.

Ok i was little off, i admit it.
But i was angry cause i really thought this will be great update for pvp. In hot join you really care about your own score, wining is secondary thing, but this should be really nice for both solo players like myself who are not playing that much pvp and also for hardcore pvp teams who can play with other pvp teams without losing time on some pug teams.

Point is there should be easy dungeons and there should be hard ones. Dungeons master should learn to finish all ones, other ones can stay on easy ones. It’s pretty simple.
And titles ARE there to tell other how good you are. I know what can/can’t i do and how i did it (i did simin after lost shore update, took as more then hour, but we did it (pug) engi, me (switched from necro to ranger), another ranger, guardian and thief so it’s not some super DPS group).

Gilgamesh.2561:

Sovta.4719:

In having the solo queue option for tournaments when you are matched against premade teams? Good job arenanet on making the MMO with WORST pvp system ever.

It’s far from the worst you imbecilic troll.

But yes, the solo queue needs to be separate from premades. The day ArenaNet realizes this and implements it, is the day PvP will ascend. Premades of course will still be annoyed, but who cares about them.

How is it far from worst? What MMO has worst system?
How hard is to put solo queue tournaments for solo players and premade team queue for premade teams?!? It seems only you and arenanet doesn’t realise that. Just copy LoL system and be done with it.

I was just in tournament and there was 4 of us against premade team + 1 guy immediately left. GW2 made me appreciate tetris pvp….oh wait.

Well i’m still waiting for my little sister to get one, she is having trouble with login screen button, hope they nerf that too!
They could just put option “Do you want this dungeon automatically finished?” and be done with this.

In having the solo queue option for tournaments when you are matched against premade teams? Good job arenanet on making the MMO with WORST pvp system ever.

For dungeons check achievements, for paths i don’t think there is any way, could be wrong.

Simple, just like we have that troll in ac, you put diffrent random encounters and even challenges (not only simple boss fights, diffrent things like in fotm) in dungeons so it won’t be so boring repeating them.
Also you can introduce bonus challenges that gives you extra reward (like in shaman fractal that chest if you save all prisoners) this could help with skipping/exploits problem too if it’s done right. What do you guys think?

They way these nerfs go we will have bosses that you kill with 1 hit, so every player could do it.

Ascalonian Catacombs, easiest
SE is not that hard, but p2 takes too long
and HotW is just boring for farm

JJBigs.8456:

At the least, its a Knights set of armor that doesnt have toughness

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, do you even know what are you typing?

if you need to dodge it for daily try ettins, their animation for attack is really long
other then that just practice