Guild Wars 2

Vayne.8563:

Look all the anti-fan bois are out together in the same thread. How touching.

Two years from now, this game will still be doing fine. Hopefully by then you’ll have found other games to play that you actually enjoy.

The stuff that you complain about is of concern to players like you and rightly so. Ergo this game might not be for you.

On the other hand, I disagree with most of what you have to say, and so do other people.

It’s not a fact that this game is horribly imbalanced, it’s an opinion. It’s not a fact that rangers can’t run dungeons, because they can run them fine. It’s not fact that Anet is doing terrible things to the game, because some people really like the updates.

You have an opinion that differs from the opinions of others. You feel the need to hang around a game forum and badmouth not only the game, but more importantly people who are enjoying the game.

I’m not going to bad mouth you guys…because there’s no reason to. You just want a different game than this is. Which doesn’t by any means make this a bad game.

How much is arenanet paying you? Is it in carrots or dollars? You know that there are those of us who doesn’t want to run around chasing some DE for months, some want competitive pvp, some good designed dungeons, some WvW without skill lock…

randomfightfan.4091:

They actually listen to their community.

You might not believe me but here are some things you just can’t argue against.

1. Look at the arah gates. They are never closed and the wp is not inside the gates. Thanks Anet.

2. Pve, pvp, wvw all need to be balanced. They are now splitting the 3 to help make all the classes even. Thanks Anet.

3. Dungeons. You want them to be harder? You got it. They are too easy? You got it. You want them revamped? You got it. You need something nerfed? You got it. Now before I go any further with this I’ll just say they only nerfed the things that people really had problems with. Simin and the OLD effigy come to mind. With res rushing removed, the dungeons are focused on skill and not patience. Thanks Anet.

4. Legendaries are too plain you say? No? Well that’s what people WERE saying a few months ago. Now we have giant flying rainbow unicorns and disco balls rolling around in WvW making the place classy and flashy. Loving it. Thanks Anet.

5. New and awesome content like the karka event and the super adventure box. Keeping the game fresh. Even when something bugged out and messed up the event anet came to the rescue with the karka chests in the mail sent to all those effected. Thanks Anet.

6. This game is pay for cosmetics not pay to win. Sure you may not want to have to buy gems with rl money AND you want the skin, well guess what, YOU DON’T HAVE TO! You’re actually able to get everything in this game with in-game currency. Thanks Anet.

7. There is no monthly subscription fee. Without that point I’d never have played this game. Thats Anet.

Now if you go ahead and look at something like league of legends, where the companies don’t give a crap about their players, you’ll realize just how good we have it.

1. Every champion in the game is locked from the player when they start the game. You are able to unlock champions as you go along but in the beginning you’re very limited to whatever they let you play for the first long while.

2. Every other week or so they release a new champion. Problem is, every new champion has been costing 6300, something that is practically unobtainable for the average player. Players were asking since the trend on 6300 on every champion to lower it so the average player could be able to own the character they want to play when they want to play it.
So far Riot has released 2 champions at 7800.

3. Almost all the time, their new champions are release a little op so that everyone would rush to grab it. After a few weeks, they’d balance the class but that’s only after they got their money off the general public.

4. The only possible way to get anything cosmetic in the game is with real life money. There is no in-game currency exchange rate for their goods.

5. The game is pay to win. If you want to get an advantage at the start of any game ala higher stats and such, you get these upgrades from their store (luckily with in game currency) BUT, you only get access to 1 page of these stat upgrades. That’s fine and dandy if you only play one character, but in a game with hundreds, you’ll need multiple pages. THAT you get with rl money.

Tldr, Just happy Anet is not anything like Riot games. Makes this game for fun and less of a chore to play. I don’t feel like I’m going to get left behind if I don’t play for a few days.

At first i thought you are being sarcastic, now i think you are r………..
1. Arah gate event was bugged for months on ALL (eu) servers
2. Balancing and arenanet? really? spvp? lol
3. All i got is nerf, nerf in difficulty for noo… i mean casuals and nerf in drops for higher difficulty.
4. Politically incorrect word
5. Really? Turn on monitor next time.
6. +1 for this
7. +1k for this

for other 1.-7. who cares LoL is not the same type of game and it’s not p2win.

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

I don´t block you in the forums and i don´t block you in the game. I undersand your point but don´t agree with you. I think elitism is when ppl look for a specific gear or class and don´t accept other thinks. I don´t have this problem, you can use the gear, build or class that you want, except for MF on dungeons.

there you go. You don’t accept a specific gear type. “You can do whatever you want, but not this, this or this!”.

Nikaido.3457:

You’re free to run MF but we are free to kick you out of party.

actually if you kick someone mid party because you disagree with their gear type, you can be reported for griefing and banned. I’m also free to block you as a security measure to make sure that I never end up in your party.

That is not griefing and arenanet doesn’t care anyway, this kind of topic is used just so players can update block list.

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Puandro.3245:

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

so you want to change how people play, because you selfishly want everyone else to change their gear to be more efficient? I would call you an outright elitist to be honest. Do you also not want anyone else but warriors in your group? Because I can tell you that all the other classes output less damage.
Normally unless one tells you that he or she is wearing MF you will not even notice, but no, it’s a big deal, because… Well just because.

Yes, i want change how ppl play if your play style included selfishness. MF only helps ONE player. I dont want for all warrs (or DPS dealers) y want for guardians with heals and aegis, i want for thiefs whith stealths, mesmers with portals, etc. It´s very simple, player with MF (any class) lost one usefull to the group (like healing power, vit, etc, not only a DPS stat) stat just to gain a usefull stat for him. I´m sorry but i think that is wrong and selfish playstile.
I have a full set of MF but only use it when i play alone.

Toughness and vitality helps only one player too mind you. Only damaging stats and healing power can help the group in any way.
I find it funny, because those people in a lot of situations honestly try really hard, they help the team, try not to go down, deal a lot of damage, but then get dissed if they say that they have MF gear, even though they themselves had to sacrifice survivability for it and adapt a flawless gameplay that took them time to master in order to increase the drops that they get.
When a person already has made a sacrifice it’s selfish to outcast them from the community and call them selfish. When people are that negative I wonder how many people I could recruit into my small guild by saying “we won’t judge your play style”.

And here is that logic i was talking about, now MF players are actually better cause they try really hard to contribute.
And toughness + vitality helps whole party cause they don’t have to ress you all the time and in some fights you take your share of aggro.

Ayrilana.1396:

Ascended gear is not a grind at the moment. You do the daily and monthly and that’s it. You do guild missions as well. Neither of those things are a grind. A grind is something you have to do repeatedly in a short timeframe.

Farming gold in CoF 1 is a grind. Farming black lion keys is a grind. Farming bauble bubbles is a grind. Farming skill points quickly for legendary is a grind. Doing dailies and monthlies which don’t take much of you time and can be done by playing the game is not a grind.

I missed fractals as well. It’s only a grind because you choose to perceive it that way. Just because you can’t get something right this second does not mean it is a grind.

Just because i can’t get it being good but can get it by repeating something trivial for months makes it a grind.

swiftpaw.6397:

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

You are still gimping yourself of a stat that could be used to contribute to the team. Doesn’t matter how much you try to argue it.

Why don’t you go make a ‘magic find is good in dungeons’ thread instead of trying to derail this one? thanks!

edit- I’m deleting my responses to your derail out of respect for OP.

One shot for every deleted post!

the stats that you do have is
power
condition damage
or
power
precision
All of these are damage stats. I find it funny that you wouldn’t say that to a person with toughness and vitality “you could be doing more damage, you’re gimping the group, why don’t you run naked?”, but you would to an MF person even though their damage output would be the same. That’s simply illogical. Especially when the MF person could just lie to you and if he is a good player you would never know.

‘Don’t argue about logic of the 90% of GW2 playerbase, believe me it’s something special.’

This is a mantra I think I’ll be chanting for a while to come.

As I have said previously, at least have the respect to take your irrational rantings somewhere else. Make your own thread instead of ruining this one.

One shot for each time this guy ignores the OP and continues on his magic find tirade!

I mean with their logic with MF gear you do same damage as zerker.
Toughness and vitality are useless ofc.

Warrior, it’s always warrior.

Isslair.4908:

Sovta.4719:

There is holy trinity in this game (for dungeons): Warrior, Guardian, Mesmer.

It’s actually just guardian+mesmer. Warrior is simply a dps-guys, and can be switched to any other profession. It’s just currently warriors are the best at this job.
Guardian+mesmer oth… Well, a lot of dungeon content is made easier by these two and it’s like anet actually designs encounters around having a guardian in a party.

Not to mention that these classes are also very strong in pvp, unlike the one-trick pony war.

But it’s a great DPS guy, full DPS for farming and balanced warrior for anything else, still great DPS.

Kaizer.7135:

Nuka Cola.8520:

kokiman.2364:

Nuka Cola.8520:

We should be rewarded for the time spent in fractals .

Why?

Because you’re playing a dungeon and in a dungeon you make money. Not only 90% of exotics (in fotm) are all acc bound but why the hell can’t i sell something many people want/need? Like in which dungeon in gw1 an X skin or item wasn’t sellable? Or im not supposed to make money anywhere but cof path 1 until its nerfed?

But you do make money from fractals….

No you don’t, i make more in WvW then fractals (easier to kill players then in fotm)
And rewards on 40+ lvl is not much better then 20+ but takes more time.

Nuka Cola.8520:

http://i46.tinypic.com/i72bfc.jpg

So, what is the exact reason after all these months devs did nothing knowing people will have tones of ascended rings? Is it because they’re too easy to get? Please don’t tell me because they’re ‘too easy to get’ when it took many people week(s) to get 2… This is just ridiculous that i need to make a character just to store ascended crap and its not like i will ever merch ascended level items (i did merch 7 cuz they were soulbind to one character on which im not using them anymore). How many more months until i can do something useful with these!?

It’s simple, they want to reward grind and not skill, i do lvl 48 and get like 3 rares and 1 core maybe. Remember how they advertise skill over time? Yea right.
Majority of playerbase are noobs and they would just whine if they buff rewards cause they can’t dodge.
And they should buff rewards cause FotM is ONLY PvE endgame beside Legendary grind.

There is holy trinity in this game (for dungeons): Warrior, Guardian, Mesmer.

Goose.5196:

Sovta.4719:

First four is big and short NO

Are you sarcastically saying what you think ANet will say? Or, are you literally saying that as your opinion?

I’m saying what arenanet is thinking, they don’t want players to think they are grinding and playing gear treadmill but that is exactly what they want you to do (do, not think), so they give you daily kill x there, x this, do x there and time restrictions – 1 piece of carrot…i mean ascended in 2-3 weeks or so. So much about game that is skill>time.

But then it wouldn’t be noob….i mean “casual” friendly.

First four is big and short NO

This thread is reopened just so people can update their block list.

Vol.5241:

Sovta.4719:

Vol.5241:

Proof of all my exotic drops with MF gear. This doesn’t include all the ones I got in the last month

http://imgur.com/a/DRo8F

Yea, i can see that big message there:“Here, for wearing your MF you have been rewarded with exotic.”

Be sarcastic if you want, but 30 exotic drops in 3 months while similar players only have 2-3 in half the hours I have in game just shows that MF works.

Link me theirs screenshot please?

Vol.5241:

Proof of all my exotic drops with MF gear. This doesn’t include all the ones I got in the last month

http://imgur.com/a/DRo8F

Yea, i can see that big message there:“Here, for wearing your MF you have been rewarded with exotic.”

Ayrilana.1396:

Just search the forums for this topic as it has been beaten to death. Unless you’re farming mobs (such as in Orr) then you’re better off wearing other gear. MF is not useful in dungeons in most scenarios.

It is very useful for trolling other 4 players.

swiftpaw.6397:

Mirta.5029:

swiftpaw.6397:

Mirta.5029:

ExaDal.2017:

People with MF set contribute to the group, but ppl with a regular set contribute much more. So, DONT USE MF on fractlas (any dungeon btw), if not you are a leech and a very selfish player.

Puandro.3245:

If the person goes down and I have to rez it slows the group. If I don’t red then I have to wait for them to WP back. If they have aggro and kite the mobs then it lowers dps for the rest of the melee and makes the run slower.
MF people are lame, if you can run with full MF gear and not die then run full berserker armor and speed up the run.

so you want to change how people play, because you selfishly want everyone else to change their gear to be more efficient? I would call you an outright elitist to be honest. Do you also not want anyone else but warriors in your group? Because I can tell you that all the other classes output less damage.
Normally unless one tells you that he or she is wearing MF you will not even notice, but no, it’s a big deal, because… Well just because.

lol calling people who don’t want leeches in their team selfish. Golden.

but they’re not leeches. People are leeching only if they’re doing nothing. No damage at all. If their damage simply doesn’t fit in with your standards then you are an elitist that should not set standards for OTHER people to begin with.

By your logic I should just join a dungeon naked and only help kill things half the time. I’m still contributing, just not as much as everyone else. But I still am, so therefore who are you to question me? You filthy leetist you.

Don’t argue about logic of the 90% of GW2 playerbase, believe me it’s something special.

SkyChef.5432:

Watch it again.

Dude i killed him many times, what’s the problem? Or are you gonna tell how all you guys who can’t kill him are right and all us that can kill him are wrong?

SkyChef.5432:

Sovta.4719:

What is really funny is that this game is out since late August, simple guide for Lupi was on wiki (takes you 1 min to read) at least from October (didn’t do Arah before that) and there it specifically says that his attack isn’t AoE but projectile and red circles just show where it will land. So many posts about this, so many players still don’t realise it, so little hope for GW2 playerbase.

Watch Wethospu video & comments about projectiles hitting player already down & in between circles in this link.

Just started watching video and first projectiles that hits him is right on mark, i told you again and again it’s not AoE but projectile! Red ring shows where will it land, he was standing between red ring and lupicus, so he was on the way of projectile and got hit. So what’s the problem?

DrixTrix.7168:

after you reach level cap in most other MMOs all you have is battlegrounds or running the same bosses over and over,

wait i see a similarity here! difference is fractals keep getting harder.

the game has ’’engdgame’’ but unlike most theres not a big kitten arrow saying ‘’grind here, run this, do this, make me a coffee, go back to step1 and repeat’’

Khm… khm… Dailies khm… khm…

ExaDal.2017:

Drink if you get less than 2 yellows in a entire run lvl38+…. Im rlly drunk.

Hey, at least you get that one MF exotic that is account bound!

KratosAngel.7289:

Thanks for your answers guys.
@rozcinana.7249 : I like the idea of 2 amulets yeah, though a bit expensive if you have alts, but quite effective if there’s no change.
@JJBigs.8456 : I don’t see where I’m complaining, but you probably have not read the whole thing … It’s asking for information and sensibilize opinion to prevent future complaining.
@Sovta.4719 : Actually, you can afford to “lose” only 5 AR on this to play high level fractals, though it hurts a bit, you can still survive at Jade so no, it’s not ok

Infused amulet will have bonus +5 AR with base stats? So why do you care if you just want MF (i can smell MF leecher from a mile) and “you can afford to lose 5 AR to play high level fractals”? (eventually you will need every piece of AR for maw)

Ranger players will become alcoholics.

Halcyon.7352:

dan matthews.2736:

your obviously new to the game. guild wars 2 is a grindfest. just wait til you hit 80. the developers lied and said it has no grind, “dynamic questing is so revolutionary” LOL. its the same thing as wow without talking to a person. at 80 there is no point to the game. they also said it would be a pvp game. LOL, you have all been conned hard. oh yea, they will delete this post soon. they do that when you dont like the game

I love that I can get a character to 80, so easily gear them, and move right on to do all sorts of end game stuff.

If not doing FotM in PvE what other end game stuff is there? Cause we all want to know about it? (for PvE, WvW is diffrent)

What is really funny is that this game is out since late August, simple guide for Lupi was on wiki (takes you 1 min to read) at least from October (didn’t do Arah before that) and there it specifically says that his attack isn’t AoE but projectile and red circles just show where it will land. So many posts about this, so many players still don’t realise it, so little hope for GW2 playerbase.

Mirta.5029:

Sovta.4719:

Mirta.5029:

Sovta.4719:

Isslair.4908:

Sovta.4719:

No, i’m DM guardian who is currently leveling 40+ FotM and plays other classes too (DM title got with necro, puging) and who doesn’t care about CoF farming cause legendary is just grind now.

So why do you care ’bout cof farm then?

I don’t care about farm, i’m just saying how d…. and s….. you whiners are, people will just farm something else if they nerf this, 4 war + 1 mes.

and that’s a good thing, because farming absolutely any other dungeon takes more skill and time.

Not really, SE p1 is also super fast with this party but you can’t buy rare with tokens, hotw p1 is also fast, there are others (didn’t do some paths for long time) that are very fast with huge dps and very easy (if not easier then cof).

well then those need to be upped in difficulty too.

I agree, but then people will shout NERF NERF NERF like always, this is not casual friendly game but noob friendly.

Mirta.5029:

Sovta.4719:

Isslair.4908:

Sovta.4719:

No, i’m DM guardian who is currently leveling 40+ FotM and plays other classes too (DM title got with necro, puging) and who doesn’t care about CoF farming cause legendary is just grind now.

So why do you care ’bout cof farm then?

I don’t care about farm, i’m just saying how d…. and s….. you whiners are, people will just farm something else if they nerf this, 4 war + 1 mes.

and that’s a good thing, because farming absolutely any other dungeon takes more skill and time.

Not really, SE p1 is also super fast with this party but you can’t buy rare with tokens, hotw p1 is also fast, there are others (didn’t do some paths for long time) that are very fast with huge dps and very easy (if not easier then cof).

Isslair.4908:

Sovta.4719:

No, i’m DM guardian who is currently leveling 40+ FotM and plays other classes too (DM title got with necro, puging) and who doesn’t care about CoF farming cause legendary is just grind now.

So why do you care ’bout cof farm then?

I don’t care about farm, i’m just saying how d…. and s….. you whiners are, people will just farm something else if they nerf this, 4 war + 1 mes.

Isslair.4908:

Sovta.4719:

Farming arah?
Yea right

What’s wrong with that? Or are you a glass cannon unskilled player who can’t do anything outside of cof? Hmm.

No, i’m DM guardian who is currently leveling 40+ FotM and plays other classes too (DM title got with necro, puging) and who doesn’t care about CoF farming cause legendary is just grind now.

Isslair.4908:

Sovta.4719:

What are better ways?

Manipulating the TP for a start. Speculating on ectos. Farming arah. Farming CoE. A lot of them.

Farming arah?
Yea right

Isslair.4908:

Guardians are essential in grawl fractal.
With cultists you need to know the right strategy – ’tis all.

I’m not saying that everyone should be running in zerk gear, but if one can evade damage he’ll survive as a glass cannon too. Saying that you need p/v/t for it is kinda short-sighted.

I’m not saying you need p/v/t just that is good as backup, but i’m talking for higher levels, for lower you can run naked.

Isslair.4908:

The thing is, there are better ways to earn money than cof-grind. It’s just that cof-grind is easy and doesn’t require one to do much (aside from leveling+gearing war\mesmer).

What are better ways?

Isslair.4908:

How would a p\v\t gear help against maw kill beam, agony on 50+ or against a stack of gazillion cultists in cliffside? It won’t.
Block and dodge don’t scale on toughness or vitality.

And how will zerker gear help against burning from ads in shaman, or against gazillion cultist/dredge/krait?

Are you really that s…….? If they nerf this 4 zerk + mesmer will just farm another dungeon and you still wouldn’t fit in that, so just make warrior or mesmer or don’t farm that way.

Mosen.9526:

Sovta.4719:

There is no reason zerker ele/thief/necro should be in there anyway, on higher level EVERYONE has to contribute, so everyone needs to take care of hammer. Zerker gear is for cof, not here, that is why everyone is whining about shaman boss, witch is not that hard with proper gear/utility.

I actually do Fractals regularly with zerker gear on my thief, and change out for p/v/t gear as the situation demands it. Zerker gear requires skill to play, most fractals require a brain to complete. If you can manage both, you can wear whatever gear you want as long as it’s not the reason you can’t do your job or holding your group back.

It’s ok what you do, but to be honest, how many zerker players have soldier gear as backup? They just want to see shiny numbers.

JJBigs.8456:

I agree with team partially. There should be no reason what so ever a zerker ele/thief/necro should be carrying the hammer. The heavy class/tanks should be the ones using the hammer and smashing deals, while the squishers DPS the chanters.

If you didnt have any heavys/tankys and they made you do it, well shoulda known bad group composition = problems.

You cant solo hammer as you get corruption stacks so they are really idiots if they expected you to solo the entire encounter. Id say its usually a group of 2-3 hammer who will side 2 side hammer with the rest as support/dps for yaal.

This isnt a reason to kick no, but remember Cliffside tends to bring out much rage in people, especialy if the both sides of the seals are popped.

There is no reason zerker ele/thief/necro should be in there anyway, on higher level EVERYONE has to contribute, so everyone needs to take care of hammer. Zerker gear is for cof, not here, that is why everyone is whining about shaman boss, witch is not that hard with proper gear/utility.

Play Fractals if you don’t want zerk only groups.

Oh Snapalope.1378:

Lupicus is really good at teaching you how to not step in red circles. Also Simin was dumb as hell before. Pushed her into a corner and spammed 1 for 5 minutes. My fingers hurt thinking about that.

Lupicus teaches you what projectiles are and what is AoE, also Simin was first fixed months ago and then nerfed cause of the whiners.

Infusing trinket is only for extra AR.
It’s obvious you don’t care about that so it will be no problem.

How can update kick only you? Are you sure they didn’t kick you?

g e o.2589:

I dont care if you’re being sarcastic or not, i know many people have much more wins/loses than me but what i mean that why is guy with 16 games in the leaderboards and me not

I know it sucks, many people complain, and leaderboards were announced in october i think (not sure about this) mainly for top spvp teams. They kept failing to bring them and now when most of them left and Tournament system sucks, who cares about leaderboards or rank point anyway?

Several hours?

With THAT many wins you should be at top 20.

JJBigs.8456:

Speaking of Lupi, people always go “he goes after this guy with high tuffness”

well , i was wearing PVT on my warrior, with guards in group so surely I wasnt the highest, and it went after me. Now lets assume, the guards werent PTV, and in zerker or somit… THEN i go OOC, while team is fighting lupi, swap my PTV gear for zerker. and lupi stayed on me!!

There is button for dodge you know, try it, helps in this game.

So you want players to use build/skills that can actually get them to finish the dungeon? Elitist!

Rachel.1249:

Dear Areanet,
I personally feel that this dungeon need some revamp,coz majority of the pple are just looking for mesmer and warr in gw2lfg.com for a speed run! Other classes need some love too!If this goes on, everyone will eventually roll only mesmer and warior!What’s the use of having other classes!

Dear Rachel,
people will just farm another dungeon with 4 war + 1 mesmer and you still won’t be invited.

marnick.4305:

Sovta.4719:

marnick.4305:

Sovta.4719:

marnick.4305:

Sovta.4719:

Risingashes.8694:

Living Story: 42 /42
Slayer: 607 /617
Hero: 400 /400
PvP: 238 /1478*
Trade: 571 /707
Explorer: 713 /888**
Fashion: 85 /130
Weapon Master: 159 /304
Community: 219 /227
HoM: 18 /20
Activities: 108 /204*
WvW: 46 /816*
JP: 440 /440
Special: 281 /281
Bosses: 80 /80
SAB: 106 /106
Total 4113 /6740
Current 7685
Daily 3572 (46.48% of total)

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Living Story: 42 /42
Slayer: 606 /617
Hero: 385 /400
PvP: 308 /1478*
Trade: 707 /707
Explorer: 608 /888**
Fashion: 55 /130
Weapon Master: 101 /304
Community: 163 /227
HoM: 20 /20
Activities: 112 /204*
WvW: 16 /816*
JP: 440 /440
Special: 271 /281
Bosses: 80 /80
SAB: 106 /106
Total 4020 /6740
Current 7537
Daily 3517 (46.66% of total)

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(Sorry about the formatting)

Above are two profiles of people within the top 10 achievement points.

As you can see, the daily/monthly represents such a high proportion of the total that new players, or players who had no expectation of leaderboards will never have a chance to ascend via merit.

I’m sure many of you will be able to compare these scores against your own achievements and see that there is one, and only one, factor differentiating #10000 and number #1 and that is the daily/monthly grind.

Is this how the achievement point system should be set up?

Shouldn’t previous day dailies be available to complete with reduced rewards? This would turn the competition from one where people have to forego ever leaving the computer for a day to one based on doing things ingame.

Can new players do a Lupicus solo video? Can they get to the currently highest lvl fotm? Can they join team and be top at spvp?

Of course. Things like that happen in every game. Some kids who play chess for the first time are recognized as natural talents, while people who play for years still fall for basic traps.

Doing a solo Lupicus can be done on the second arah run by a natural. Highest level fotm is a mere grind requiring a few twitch mechics which could be inherited from action rpgs. Top pvp has absolutely nothing to do with GW2 but more with a general attitude.

Any of your examples can be done by the right person in a few hours of playtime. Others won’t ever achieve these in hundreds of years, even though they’re #1 on the leaderboards.

Well why do people complain then? If they are good they can do this in few hours like you said and get the “fame”. Oh, wait, they suck right?

Unfortunately, while a lupicus solo should be worth over 9000 achievement points in difficulty, it gives none. No one sees the very elite players, who often don’t have as big of an e-kitten as achievement junkies who merely hunt the easy ones.

Achievements don’t show skill, merely /age. That’s the main issue people have with the current implementation of leaderboards. Lupicus solo doesn’t show as a number under your name, yet unskilled elitists discriminate on exactly that stupid number.

But you still need to go on site to see achievements, just like you need to go youtube for lupicus solo. My guild plays WvW mostly and many players have many achievement points/legendary or are high lvl FotM and guess what? They don’t care about this.
Only point of leaderboards is for top spvp teamas and most of them left this game long time ago.

Irrelevant. These leaderboards and achievements in general take away the focus from really difficult stuff and focus on easily farmed things like achievement score. That leaves 90% of the highly skilled yet time limited population in the cold.

I’ve got 20 years of experience as a videogamer under my belt. Trust me, there’s nothing new in this game I couldn’t do 5 minutes after logging in. Achievement score doesn’t reflect my skill at all. I would like to have leaderboards with arah speedruns.

I know it doesn’t reflect skill (most of the time) but it’s same thing with Legendary and i don’t care about it. But it’s annoying hearing all these people complain just cause they want everything served at plate.

marnick.4305:

Sovta.4719:

marnick.4305:

Sovta.4719:

Risingashes.8694:

Living Story: 42 /42
Slayer: 607 /617
Hero: 400 /400
PvP: 238 /1478*
Trade: 571 /707
Explorer: 713 /888**
Fashion: 85 /130
Weapon Master: 159 /304
Community: 219 /227
HoM: 18 /20
Activities: 108 /204*
WvW: 46 /816*
JP: 440 /440
Special: 281 /281
Bosses: 80 /80
SAB: 106 /106
Total 4113 /6740
Current 7685
Daily 3572 (46.48% of total)

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Living Story: 42 /42
Slayer: 606 /617
Hero: 385 /400
PvP: 308 /1478*
Trade: 707 /707
Explorer: 608 /888**
Fashion: 55 /130
Weapon Master: 101 /304
Community: 163 /227
HoM: 20 /20
Activities: 112 /204*
WvW: 16 /816*
JP: 440 /440
Special: 271 /281
Bosses: 80 /80
SAB: 106 /106
Total 4020 /6740
Current 7537
Daily 3517 (46.66% of total)

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Above are two profiles of people within the top 10 achievement points.

As you can see, the daily/monthly represents such a high proportion of the total that new players, or players who had no expectation of leaderboards will never have a chance to ascend via merit.

I’m sure many of you will be able to compare these scores against your own achievements and see that there is one, and only one, factor differentiating #10000 and number #1 and that is the daily/monthly grind.

Is this how the achievement point system should be set up?

Shouldn’t previous day dailies be available to complete with reduced rewards? This would turn the competition from one where people have to forego ever leaving the computer for a day to one based on doing things ingame.

Can new players do a Lupicus solo video? Can they get to the currently highest lvl fotm? Can they join team and be top at spvp?

Of course. Things like that happen in every game. Some kids who play chess for the first time are recognized as natural talents, while people who play for years still fall for basic traps.

Doing a solo Lupicus can be done on the second arah run by a natural. Highest level fotm is a mere grind requiring a few twitch mechics which could be inherited from action rpgs. Top pvp has absolutely nothing to do with GW2 but more with a general attitude.

Any of your examples can be done by the right person in a few hours of playtime. Others won’t ever achieve these in hundreds of years, even though they’re #1 on the leaderboards.

Well why do people complain then? If they are good they can do this in few hours like you said and get the “fame”. Oh, wait, they suck right?

Unfortunately, while a lupicus solo should be worth over 9000 achievement points in difficulty, it gives none. No one sees the very elite players, who often don’t have as big of an e-kitten as achievement junkies who merely hunt the easy ones.

Achievements don’t show skill, merely /age. That’s the main issue people have with the current implementation of leaderboards. Lupicus solo doesn’t show as a number under your name, yet unskilled elitists discriminate on exactly that stupid number.

But you still need to go on site to see achievements, just like you need to go youtube for lupicus solo. My guild plays WvW mostly and many players have many achievement points/legendary or are high lvl FotM and guess what? They don’t care about this.
Only point of leaderboards is for top spvp teamas and most of them left this game long time ago.