what he means is that other classes can do more burst, without requiring melee range, without light armor, without non targetable aoes, and offer more to a team fight. This game is not about 1v1 which is what your entire post is about.
Its okay, i ran into a level 80 necro that had no idea that the bone minions explode and you can control when they do. He was like WTF. Now thats his favorite thing to do in WvW. Send them into groups and BOOM! (like 4k damage each)
4k if they make it to their target, which is rare in any aoe zergfest
the problem is winning means nothing in spvp and tpvp. No ladders, no rankings, no matching, nothing. Cool you won 100 tournaments in a row, nobody cares or knows and 80% of those matches were vs pug teams including the finals since it’s just first 8 teams that queue up and majority of teams in tournies are full or partial pugs.
the issues have been around since beta so we are going on almost 2 months now with zero bug fixes, DS nerf andscepter nerf despite them saying in beta that necros needed the most love.
1. Yes, you are being punished for being interrupted and the other player is being rewarded for interrupting you.
2. You can win a 1v2 if you play well (or if your opponents are terrible) but you need to set yourself up for it. You need to hold a CC/Stability/Invis/Invulnerability/Quickness for the second guy after you down the first guy so that you can get off a clean stomp (Stability and Invuln are the most reliable here). This is all part of playing well. If you get your stomp stopped, then you really just didn’t play well enough (or you got outplayed) or your build needs to be modified to account for this scenario.
TLDR: you need to outplay them and then save a bunch of your abilities to deal with a dumb mechanic that involves zero skill on either players end. zomg i uzed my 2 down ability and stopped from being downed i so gud
Well so far it has appeared to me whenever I used life transfer that the damage is per tick.
So now we are in disagreement and I neither of us can prove our thinking 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt; thus confirmation please.
it’s not, it’s common knowledge. The day necros get 5k crits on non-channel/non-lich form attacks is the day when power/crit builds are on par with every other class.
If getting caught without an escape up is the only time you die to pistol whip, isn’t it working as intended?
then give every class a way to destroy someone without an escape so it’s even across the board. That’s basically what the OP is getting at, that certain classes have a way to capitalize much more on someone with no escapes with less skill required to boot.
Seriously guys, learn to play the game a little, and things will work itself out. Here’s a little encounter I had with a poor player a few days ago, when my Thief was still using Dagger MH (paraphrased, of course)-
Idiot: “GG HS spamming me to death, noob”
Me: “You were using Dagger storm, and I’m D/P and Shbow, heartseeker is literally the only non autoattack skill I have that will hit you.”
Idiot: “I’m surprised you can type while you’re spamming 2 so much”
Me: “Regardless how you feel ‘Using the only ability i have that will hit you’ is pretty tactically sound in anyones book”
Idiot: Repeated nonsense about HS spamming, etc…
There’s 2 factors here. When you don’t understand how an ability works, its OP. I thought Mes was OP, until I learned how the class worked. I thought Frenzy->bull rush-> hundred blades was OP until I realized packing a stun break was more important that going glass cannon. As people learn, HS will become more understood, and people will learn its counters.
Factor 2 is that people parrot everything they hear, especially bad players. “I’ve been killed my HS spam, and everyone says its OP, so it must be!”. Seriously, the game hasn’t been out a month. Give it some time before you cry about how OP everything you don’t understand yet is.
except HS was OP and got nerfed. You sound like the typical please don’t nerf the only class I play type guy. Most people play lots of classes since you don’t have to level to 80 to pvp, so when the say something is OP they are speaking from experience in both facing the ability and using it themselves.
I suggest you try a game like Rift where there is little to no skill involved and victory is determined by gear and consumables and there are no rankings or team vs team match making.
Learn to dodge. Or, alternatively, increase the initiative cost. But really, if you’re spamming it over and over, you’re nuts. Good players will counter you and the skill is clearly meant as, for lack of a better term, the class’ “execute” option.
right but if I come up on a group fight and theres a target at 50% who blew his dodges surviving up to that point its mindless HS spam and he’s dead with zero effort required. No need to worry about gap closing, no need to worry about using any other CDs in conjunction, it’s boring.
Developers work constantly. The community reps will sum up everything we’re saying and pass it on. Once in awhile we’ll get a state of the patch or the game or something.
Were you around for bwe? They were constantly posting in hot topic threads putting peoples concerns at ease or discussing future plans.
and then they heart seeker again and again and again and you die
also thief is one of the easiest classes to play along with warrior in pvp. And remember kids this isn’t your standard mmo where everyones only playing their “main” anyone can take 5 minutes get through the starter area and go play a thief them self. i have one of every class except engi and ele in the mists. The only people who seem to be defending thief are those who ONLY play thief in s/t pvp.
Agreed with the above – isn’t the main team. And ‘They are good but not so great as they say’ is a somewhat silly thing to say when they literally haven’t lost a single game yet, but haters gonna hate.
I LOATHE underwater combat, whoever is saying trident does decent damage is kidding themselves, it’s horrible. 5 ability does decent burst but has a long CD
I am not reading this thread, I do not have to. I have just bought this game, as sales were frozen last week or so. It is brand new, and still very well finished. So…
My message:
Every MMO is destroyed sooner or later by these ‘seagull’ players. They swoop down, poop on everything, make great amounts of noise, then fly off before anyone can do anything. This leaves the more devoted and rational players to endure the game that is left after the devs clean up the game mechanics these seagulls pooped all over.
Do not feed the seagulls!
Peace guys, and I’ll see you in game, rocking out my necromancer.
This is not a subscription based game, so if they fix things people will come back. No such thing as seagulling here buddy.
