Lady Bethany Of Noh – Chronomancer – Lords of Noh [LoN]
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I’m just going to call BS on that. It is literally impossible to go from one side of the map to the other on the Broom without stopping. The broom will vanish before you make it to the other end. That is also counting that you are able to avoid every mob and even have a speed boost. It just isn’t possible to do with the limited time.
But by all means. Prove me wrong. Go to a place like Lornar’s Pass and film yourself riding the broom all the way from one end to the complete opposite end. Show me it is possible and then I’ll believe you.
And I’m sorry, but one skill on a brawling weapon is not a mount.
And yes, I have one too that I play with from time to time as well.
Edit: Just timed it myself. The broom skill last for exactly three minutes. Now please tell me exactly how you are going from one side of the map to the other in three minutes or less? Yeah…
And just tried it myself in Kessex Hills. Started at Delanian Waypoint (which wasn’t really close to the entrance, but it was the closest waypoint) and worked my way to the Halicon Waypoint. Made it about halfway before my broom vanished on me. So you can’t go from one end to the other, sorry.
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Oh my… why people are ruining my happiness saying that we don’t want or don’t need mounts? Let them create the mounts, if you don’t want mounts, don’t use them, I think you will not be bother looking at people riding mounts… If you get mad, that means you are just thinking about yourself, I would say there are like 50/50 who wants mounts, who knows, maybe more… that would not ruin the game, since we see this picture, is obviously that mounts are possible…
The same could be said in reverse about you as well.
If you get mad cause they aren’t here, that means you are just thinking about yourself. Why should they add them for you? If you want them, go play another game that has them.
Basically, don’t be a hypocrite. Telling people that if they don’t like it, then don’t use it, without even seeing it from their side of they don’t like it, so why should you be allowed to have it?
Yea, but they are not fast enough, good answer TRON.
Except they are nothing like mounts at all. The Broom riding animation is a skill on a weapon. And it’s a limited time only. So not really a good answer at all. He just believes that anything you can sit on is considered a mount.
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Just because it doesn’t give you an edge in combat doesn’t mean it’s cosmetic. To make this simple, I provide source.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cosmetic?s=t
“used or done superficially to make something look better, more attractive, or more impressive: Alterations in the concert hall were only cosmetic and did nothing to improve the acoustics.”
Cosmetics serve absolutely no purpose other than appearance. The moment it does ANYTHING other than just sit there and look awesome, it no longer qualifies as “cosmetic”.
So your trying to say, because the broom moves around and looks awesome….it’s not cosmetic….that’s some serious clutching at straws there my friend…
P.S. It’s still a mount. :P
That is opposite of what I’m saying. perhaps the phrase “SIT there and look awesome” was a poor choice of words on my part. But it does not provide any stat change, nor does it move faster than normal movement speed or fly. No change to weapon or utility skills. It does nothing to change performance whatsoever except look like something different. Therefore, it IS cosmetic.
I’m not saying it isn’t a mount. I am simply debating the difference between “cosmetic mount” and “mount” because there is a huge difference between the two.
Like I said it’s a cosmetic mount….:P
Anet can deny it all they like but there are cosmetic mounts currently in GW2 right now :P
Except it’s not. Please, show me a mount that shoots bats, makes you melt, summons a cauldron, and summons a black cat. And seeing as there is only one skill on that “brawl weapon” that allows you to sit on it for a limited time, it is nothing like a mount.
I’m sorry but one skill on a “brawl weapon” that is for a limited time and only works while you are in town clothing is not considered a mount. It is one skill out of five skills that is tied to that weapon.
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I didn’t say Town Clothing has a timer. The Riding Broom itself has a timer. You can only ride on the Broom for a limited time, not permanently.
And in WoW, you can take several shots before you are knocked off your mount. Sometimes you get knocked off instantly, other times you can ride on forever without being dismounted. But in GW2, in your Town Clothing on your Broom, if you get hit even once or get into combat in any way, you automatically switch to your gear, losing your Broom.
Well, riding the witch’s broom acts as a costume brawl skill, we’ll need to wait and see if the next broom is also a brawling skill, which I highly doubt. If they do finally add mounts in the future, I highly doubt they’ll tied to brawler skills either, rather they’d be an actual cosmetic change.
And I must be the unluckiest WoW player, because in the five years I played, I’ve always been knocked of my mount when something attacked me, plus I can’t use skills from the mount, which just enforces the idea that they’re no more than mere cosmetics, just like town clothes in GW2.
We can debate trivialities all day, but on both camps the facts are the same. GW2 treats the broom as a cosmetic item and WoW treat its mounts as cosmetic items.
But again like I stated in my post that you quoted, but cut it off, mounts in WoW are not cosmetic. You need them to reach certain quest hubs, objectives, and even dungeons and raids to progress. Thus they are a requirement, not just cosmetic.
This game runs liek crap for eeveryone? I hardly ever lag at all, i can see everyone in wvw and i rarely, very rarely lag and i run on max settings at 40fps. Yes, my computer cost a lot, $1,700 , but if they want to make the game look worse so people with crappier computers and less money can play it im completely against that.
It has nothing to do with making the game look worse. It will only affect those with low end machines. You won’t notice any difference cause you are having no issues.
It’s kind of like what Rift did with their “green condoms” everywhere. They are placeholders for those with slow loading machines. If something isn’t loading fast enough, they see those while waiting for things to load.
Same thing for GW2. For those that are taking awhile to load things, they will see a low res version of their opponent while the actual model is loading. Like I said, since you don’t have that issue, you won’t have to worry about it.
They just mean the vendors. You can still use the Mystic Forge for the items as long as you have the materials. Works the same way with the Halloween stuff.
And it is only a temporary mount with a time limit and you can only use it while wearing town clothing. Sorry but that isn’t the same concept.
Take WoW for example (yes I know, but it’s the best comparison). You get a level 40 Frostsaber. Now imagine if you could only ride the Frostsaber if you were not wearing your armor and the Frostsaber only went as fast as your regular running speed and it only lasted for a few minutes and then vanished and as soon as you were hit with anything, it vanished as well. Then it would be like the Broom in GW2.
But it’s not like that. It increases your movement speed, it is permanent with no time limit, you can ride it while wearing your armor, and it doesn’t vanish if you get into combat (meaning you can keep riding even if someone shoots you).
So thus I say it is very different from a traditional mount.
I think you need to recheck your facts, town clothing isn’t on a timer… They last until you take damage, or you unsummon them. I’ve practically stood in my witch’s outfit for hours in LA, so I’m not sure how you came upon this idea. In WoW your mount also disappears when you take damage, or unsummon it. Ergo, it’s purely a cosmetic item. In GW2 you get speed boosts elsewhere, so letting a mount act as one as well would be a bit redundant.
The only condition I think they should allow you to have ride a mount while armored would be if they incorporate mounts into mounted combat, like LotRO did. Just like in WoW, the GW2 broom “mounts” are cosmetic items.
I didn’t say Town Clothing has a timer. The Riding Broom itself has a timer. You can only ride on the Broom for a limited time, not permanently.
And in WoW, you can take several shots before you are knocked off your mount. Sometimes you get knocked off instantly, other times you can ride on forever without being dismounted. But in GW2, in your Town Clothing on your Broom, if you get hit even once or get into combat in any way, you automatically switch to your gear, losing your Broom.
And in WoW, they are far from cosmetic items. Seeing as you need to use flying mounts to reach certain quest areas or objectives, they are a requirement to have.
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It is a mount as in, you sit on it. That’s about it. As for everything else, it is nothing like what a mount is. And I’m sure the millions of games out there that have mounts agree with my definition as well, otherwise all mounts in every game that has them would be like the Riding Broom. But they are not. They are like my definition.
Except for LotRO that managed to implement mounts in mounted combat, all other MMOs have mounts merely as cosmetic items. It’s pretty much the same concept if GW2 incorporates them as town clothing. The only difference would be that town clothes doesn’t come with a speed boost.
And it is only a temporary mount with a time limit and you can only use it while wearing town clothing. Sorry but that isn’t the same concept.
Take WoW for example (yes I know, but it’s the best comparison). You get a level 40 Frostsaber. Now imagine if you could only ride the Frostsaber if you were not wearing your armor and the Frostsaber only went as fast as your regular running speed and it only lasted for a few minutes and then vanished and as soon as you were hit with anything, it vanished as well. Then it would be like the Broom in GW2.
But it’s not like that. It increases your movement speed, it is permanent with no time limit, you can ride it while wearing your armor, and it doesn’t vanish if you get into combat (meaning you can keep riding even if someone shoots you).
So thus I say it is very different from a traditional mount.
Sorry that is just not the case, it is a mount. Period.
I have played many mmo’s with mounts and by any definition it is a mount.
If the only reason you are calling it a mount is cause you can sit on it, then sure. Call it a mount all you want. But other games will gladly prove you wrong on what a mount actually is compared to this broom.
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It is a mount as in, you sit on it. That’s about it. As for everything else, it is nothing like what a mount is. And I’m sure the millions of games out there that have mounts agree with my definition as well, otherwise all mounts in every game that has them would be like the Riding Broom. But they are not. They are like my definition.
Well at least we get a broomstick hops on WEEEEEEEEEE- oh wait, no speed boost
Which is rather disappointing that they are releasing a Riding Broom.
The Witch Outfit that came with the Halloween Event was a limited time only costume. It came with a Riding Broom and the only way to get it was to buy it during the Halloween Event. So people that have the Witch’s Outfit, have a unique item that no one else does.
Now they are releasing a Riding Broom that (from my understanding) is the same as the Riding Broom from the Witch’s Outfit. Makes those who purchased the limited time only costume, waste their money. It’s kind of a downer for those that bought the item thinking they had something unique, and then a few months later, they sell the best part of the item to everyone else, making those who bought it before, waste their money on a full costume for the broom while others can just buy the broom separately now.
If you bought the costume just to show off that you have something other players don’t I’d say you missed the point.
But I think (hope) that most people who bought it did so because they like it and they won’t care how many people also have it or how they got it.
I think you missed my point, or I didn’t clarify it well enough. If so, I apologize.
What I meant was, those who bought the Witch’s Outfit, had to pay for a full costume to get the Riding Broom. And we could only get it during the Halloween Event (so those who enjoy the uniqueness had that as well).
The problem I see now, is that now players can buy just the Riding Broom by itself. What was originally an exclusive to the Witch’s Outfit that was a limited time offer and we had to pay full price for, players are now going to get as a standalone item and (I would assume) at a cheaper price.
It means those who bought the costume for the Costume Brawl, just wasted their money. Because the Riding Broom is the item for Costume Brawls. But we had to pay full price for the whole costume while now, others can just buy the broom and that’s it.
Just expressing that I, personally, feel ripped off and like I wasted money.
Except they are Town Clothing only and only last for a limited time. You can only use the Witch’s Broom with Town Clothing equipped. And it only lasts for a few minutes before it vanishes and you have to recast it.
Not the same as a mount.
A mount in any game you can use at any time, regardless of your outfit. And they don’t have a time limit on them on how long you can ride it before it vanishes. They last until you unsummon them.
I agree they ruin immersion for me, but that was one of my main problems in gw1, they had similair things by the end of gw1’s life cycle half the people where walking dinosours, wearing gi joe army uniforms, dressed as fireman, walking teddy bears.
I’m honestly curious as to which items you are talking about.
I am as well. None of those items they mentioned were in GW1.
The only one I could see was the G.I. Joe army uniforms, and that was from an April Fools joke where you could play as the Commando. And that was for one day…
Well at least we get a broomstick hops on WEEEEEEEEEE- oh wait, no speed boost
Which is rather disappointing that they are releasing a Riding Broom.
The Witch Outfit that came with the Halloween Event was a limited time only costume. It came with a Riding Broom and the only way to get it was to buy it during the Halloween Event. So people that have the Witch’s Outfit, have a unique item that no one else does.
Now they are releasing a Riding Broom that (from my understanding) is the same as the Riding Broom from the Witch’s Outfit. Makes those who purchased the limited time only costume, waste their money. It’s kind of a downer for those that bought the item thinking they had something unique, and then a few months later, they sell the best part of the item to everyone else, making those who bought it before, waste their money on a full costume for the broom while others can just buy the broom separately now.
Just want to step in here for a second to comment on a few speculations:
There will be no mounts, no Cantha and no dragons coming with this story arc.
Sorry if that destroyed some dreams.
Well that cleared up one of my questions about the Riding Broom being a mount, but still a bit concerned.
We got a Riding Broom with our Witch Costume for the Halloween Event. You already went and gave out the Witch Hat and now you’re giving out the Riding Broom as well. It just feels like a waste of money for those of us who bought the Witch Outfit for the limited time during the Holiday, and now you’re going to be selling the main item that made the outfit what it was, separately.
All sounds cherry and all, but what is this Riding Broom?
Is it town clothing or a type of mount? If it’s town clothing, why are we getting another broom? We already got one from Halloween with the witch’s outfit, now you’re releasing one seperately? Feels like a waste of money for those that bought the costume. I mean, you already gave out a witch’s hat and now a broom? Might as well just put the whole outfit back in the cash shop.
And if it is a mount and not town clothing, why? Does it increase speed? And why are you making mounts in the first place? What happened to no mounts?
As well, when are we going to see more town clothing? People have been asking for it for awhile now and even wanting the npc outfits as town clothing for awhile. Yet we get a Quaggan backpack instead.
This is my only real concerns at the moment.
SO with the new patch coming out, I decided to point out something that will make every mount hater cringe. Areananet supports the idea of mounts, and it is already given in lore, and this is evidence of this concept art: http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/150926_10151300660039209_681568240_n.jpg
Should be interesting to see how they work when implemented
Just because there is a picture of some guy on a horse, doesn’t mean we are getting mounts.
Anet has already stated they are not adding mounts, so don’t get excited or else you’ll be highly disappointed.
Usually with bug fixes, you have to wait till the next big patch comes out. The only time bug fixes come out quickly, is when it is an exploitable issue. Then they try to release it as soon as possible (which is usually within the same day or the next).
But regular bug fixes that are just annoying or not really causing major issues, we have to wait for a big content patch before we get them.
Basically don’t expect to see any bug fixes till the 28th when the January patch releases. And if that brings bugs, depending on how bad they are, we will have to wait till the February patch for those fixes.
In every game I have played, double clicking purchases the item. It does not preview an item. You have been playing this game for how long again? And in your entire time playing this game, when has double click previewed an item?
Why did you think that double clicking the item would preview the item?
The reason is not important, the point here is that double clicking shouldn’t purchase without a notification, i didn’t want the item it was never my intention on buying it, most items have notifications when you want to buy them, actually if you click buy you get a notification but if you double click you don’t, this is something that needs fixing.
And stop being a kitten, there are actual problems with this game that blind fanboys can’t see.
Trust me, I am far from a fanboy. And wasn’t trying to be a jerk about it, was just going off what you wrote from your OP. If you found that insulting, then I apologize.
In your OP, you state you were trying to preview the item by double clicking it. I was jus wondering why you thought that double clicking an item would preview it to begin with. From your post history, it shows you’ve been here for 4 months or more. In that 4 months time, I was curious how you didn’t know that double clicking buys an item, not previews it.
But you’re right about the confirmation window. And to add to that, they should have a refund window as well. In WoW, you can sell back items you bought with VP within a time limit for a full refund. They should do the same in GW2 with Karma/Tokens. This way if people buy the wrong item, they can exchange it back within the time limit to get their tokens back.
Or a simple confirmation works as well to make people double check their purchase.
In every game I have played, double clicking purchases the item. It does not preview an item. You have been playing this game for how long again? And in your entire time playing this game, when has double click previewed an item?
Why did you think that double clicking the item would preview the item?
Well, let’s start with a little about what you like personally.
What other games have you played? Is this your first fantasy MMO? If not, what do you usually play in your other MMOs? What do you enjoy doing most?
A little more detail would help.
So, I;ve been keeping all the tonics I get from the BL chests over the past few months, and occasionally when I open one I get a mystery tonic. Now if I recall there are 3 types of mystery tonics, but looking at the 92 mystery tonics I have, they are all the same, smell like singed fur and feathers. Is this meant to be like this?
They all have the same description, but different effects.
Since you have 92 of them, grab a few and try them out. You’ll see for yourself.
Honestly I’m just confused that you were spending $15 a month.
Unless you were converting them into gold I can’t imagine what you found in the gem store to spend that much on.
My daughter uses my account to play also, so i have extra character slots, bank slots, some i purchased more bag space, and yes lots of gems for potential gold conversion.
If i like a game thats B2P or even F2P, i show my support by spending a small amount equal to a subscription.
Both my wife and I have decent jobs, we are not in debt and we both play online games. Generally we play alot of online games because we live in Barrow Alaska and when its minus -40f or worse outside, with no shopping centers or even a movie theatre, well MMOs fill the entertainment slot quite nicely.
As i see it $15.00 a month is a pittance to the amounts of entertainment i get from this game and others like it.
I wasn’t questioning how you could afford it, or whether you should be spending it on something else. As I said I was just surprised that you could find enough stuff to buy in-game to justify it.
There is many things in the gem store that appeal to different people.
For instance, I enjoy the costumes/town clothing. Whenever new ones are released, I make sure to pick those up right away. Others enjoy the mini pets and are willing to spend the money to get them all. Along with those who want to collect all the dyes, so they spend money on the dye packs.
Seeing as everything is around 10 dollars or more, 15 bucks a month can go on for awhile to make sure you get all the things you want.
I’m pretty sure the backpack doesn’t show up in your hero panel. It only shows on your character in the game world, not preview or hero panel.
And not all back items have an appearance. Only a select few. And that is the Halloween Book, Wintersday Satchel, and then the craftable Ascended ones. As well the Engineer has a backpack if you choose the Tool Kit in character creation.
So I had an interesting issue today. My graphics in game just dropped like they were randomly set to low quality.
I usually run on about medium settings with a few set to high and don’t have any issues. Might get a stutter here and there and an fps drop in major populated areas, but that’s about it. Nothing game breaking.
But today I was playing my Guardian, and out of nowhere everything just looked blurry and out of focus. The graphics looked like they were set to the lowest setting possible.
So I checked my settings to see if they maybe reset or something, but nothing. Still had the same settings, nothing changed. Even boosted them to the highest quality, and it did nothing. Everything was still low quality and blurry. Tried relogging and changing zones, but it did nothing. My game seems to be set in a permanent low quality state now for some reason.
Any idea what could be causing this? All my other games (Skyrim, FalloutNV, Saints Row the Third, Mass Effect 3, etc etc etc) are running just fine with max settings and such. This is only happening with GW2.
You guys know this thread is like 4 months old right? I’m surprised someone actually necro’d it.
But I think my issue was (when I posted this), I was leveling an alt.
When you level your first character, you are earning tons of achievement experience. Achievements that can only be earned once that give a nice hefty amount of experience.
My first play through, my experience was good. I leveled fine. But once I started leveling alts, it was going a lot slower than what I experienced on my main. From a few posts above, someone mentioned that you no longer get that achievement experience anymore when level an alt (cause obviously your main already got all the achievements). I believe that is why I feel under leveled all the time. Plus counting the time (late night hours) that I play in, it is hard to find events, much less players on at the time to do events with.
But like I said in my OP, I still dislike the fact that we are expected to do everything in order to get enough experience to move to the next zone. So if you are not fond of something, you have to do it any ways or else you miss out on a large chunk of experience. I wish experience was equal all around so for those things you dislike doing, you don’t have to do them in order to make enough experience to progress on.
But again, this thread is 4 months old guys. Things have changed a bit since then.
You don’t get scaled to 80 anymore. That was just during the event. So when you go there at level 2, you are still level 2. Anyone can get to that node, just strip down to your knickers and do a lot of running and dodging. Mining it is the tricky part.
And this is not an exploit. That mining pick has been around forever and has never had a requirement on it. If it was not intended, it would of been fixed a long time ago. People have been using those picks for quite awhile now and have never had any complaints. Now that people found a better use for them, all the sudden they are exploiting? Please.
If a level 2 is able to make it out to that node and mine it with a legit purchased mining pick that is doing it’s job, then more power to them. It is not an exploit in any way. They are using the tools provided to them for farming. They are not breaking any rules or abusing any bugs, so it is not an exploit.
Actually the Steampunk theme of the Charr was something I actually liked. Not a fan of Charr myself though, but I do like their theme they got going on. I mean it’s been over 200 years and times change. The Charr have always been known for their engineering skills since the beginning, so it makes sense that they have evolved as they have.
I was rather disappointed though to see all this new Steampunk stuff, but barely any Steampunk outfits. Was hoping to get some fancy cogwheel-themed armor or something at least. Even some fancy rifles/pistols. But barely anything in that department.
So basically, smear cogs and gears all over something, regardless of if they have a point = steampunk. At least from any example of it I’ve seen.
lol you got a point there, but yes, basically that’s it. :P
But how is that any different from any other fad? Or even any armor or fashion in general? Just look at some of the gear we already have in game and you can see the same philosophy applied to them as well for their own themes.
In GW1, they had birthdays based on when you first created your account. Each year that your character (all your characters not just one) had a birthday, you were given a present in your inventory. It contained a mini pet for that specific year.
Hopefully in GW2, they continue that tradition. It doesn’t have to be a mini pet, but at least something nice to commemorate playing yearly.
Hopefully they do this but based on when you “first created your account” and not your characters. I played for 7 years and all my chars are 4 months old only and never get a single present
Yeah sorry I meant character more than account. It is based on when you first make your character. Then every year on that particular character’s birthday, you get a present.
That will explain why you never got a present. You never kept a character over a year. Every year your character is there, you get a present.
Now that I think about it, I probably got a bunch of presents stacking up in my bags on all my characters by now lol.
Simple, make it so nothing can target you, friend or foe, and be invulnerable incase some sod pulls a foe to you that does aoe.
That would be the same thing as what would happen in my first scenario. Someone is starting to die to a boss in a dungeon, so they use the Invul-AFK to make the boss no longer target them so they can recover. It would be constantly abused.
And like was said above. People would use it to bypass mobs or to drop aggro when trying to run through mobs.
In GW1, they had birthdays based on when you first created your account. Each year that your character (all your characters not just one) had a birthday, you were given a present in your inventory. It contained a mini pet for that specific year.
Hopefully in GW2, they continue that tradition. It doesn’t have to be a mini pet, but at least something nice to commemorate playing yearly.
That would be abused so badly, it’s not even funny.
In a dungeon on a boss fight? Invul-AFK till someone can draw the boss off you. Or the opposite. Get aggro then Invul-AFK the rest of the fight while everyone else does damage. It would be abused so much if they added that kind of feature.
Like Son of Elias said, log out. If you are going to be afk, or if you know you might go afk, log out at your position or in a safe spot. This way you don’t have to worry about griefers kiting stuff to you.
You have to be in an Order to see the armor/weapons they have available.
So if you have alts in the Whispers, Priory, and Vigil, you can buy the pieces on all your alts and transmute it to a basic vendor white item. Then toss it in your bank and transmute them onto your gear.
As long as you have alts in those Orders already, you can get the armor for your other character.
Actually the Steampunk theme of the Charr was something I actually liked. Not a fan of Charr myself though, but I do like their theme they got going on. I mean it’s been over 200 years and times change. The Charr have always been known for their engineering skills since the beginning, so it makes sense that they have evolved as they have.
I was rather disappointed though to see all this new Steampunk stuff, but barely any Steampunk outfits. Was hoping to get some fancy cogwheel-themed armor or something at least. Even some fancy rifles/pistols. But barely anything in that department.
If enough folks request it, they might make some in the future.
I want to say you’re right, but sadly I doubt it.
People have been requesting tons of new outfits/armor skins/weapon skins/etc for awhile now and nothing has been added. I mean even requesting outfits that are already in the game to be town clothing hasn’t happened (like clothing NPCs wear). It feels like the only way we are getting new outfits is via holidays only. Which in turn is really disheartening. People have constantly asked, but guess it is not a priority.
Actually the Steampunk theme of the Charr was something I actually liked. Not a fan of Charr myself though, but I do like their theme they got going on. I mean it’s been over 200 years and times change. The Charr have always been known for their engineering skills since the beginning, so it makes sense that they have evolved as they have.
I was rather disappointed though to see all this new Steampunk stuff, but barely any Steampunk outfits. Was hoping to get some fancy cogwheel-themed armor or something at least. Even some fancy rifles/pistols. But barely anything in that department.
I’m mostly a poster these days.
I log into GW2 maybe once or twice a week, play for about an hour at most and log off. Just tired of a bunch of things that I won’t go into, as I don’t want to derail the thread. The game is just no longer fun for me anymore.
But I have this lingering hope that things will change, so I hang around the forums still to congregate with others and give opinions here and there. Always been a forum person though and usually end up spending more time on the forum than in game anywhere.
There is tons of addons in WoW that play the game for you. Just look at Healbot, DBM, that addon that flashes what skills to click at certain times (can never remember the name), XPerl, Gatherer, Auctioner, etc.
All these addons do things for you that you used to do normally. DBM? Don’t need to figure anything out in boss fights anymore. This addon tells you exactly what is coming and when to move and what to do. Healbot? Easy to click bars that do all your healing for you so you don’t have to hotkey and bind everything yourself. Auctioner? Shop from the AH without going to the AH, catch deals before anyone can, etc. Gatherer? No more searching for nodes anymore. Just download the data from the site and it shows you everything on your map. There is even addons that reveal the entire map for you before you even discover it.
Point is, there is tons of addons that do things for you that you would normally have to do yourself. These so called “ease of access” addons actually play WoW for you basically to the point you don’t even have to try anymore.
Those are the kinds of things that we don’t need in GW2. I don’t mind cosmetic addons like something to pretty up your UI. Sure go for it, more power to you. But when addons start doing things for you that require no thinking for yourself, then it’s gone too far.
Again they are not PLAYING the game for you. They are nothing but information timers. If they played the game for you then you could just walk away from your computer and let them play. They will not move you out of fire, they will not heal you, they will not post auctions for you, they will not mine or herb nodes for you.
Thus why I said they are “basically” playing the game for you. If you like, I can reword it to “telling” you how to play the game. It’s an expression, that pretty much everyone understands. Apparently not you though.
My point still stands. They make the game easy mode. You don’t have to think for yourself anymore cause your addons do that for you. They tell you everything you need to know and what to do. All you have to do is follow orders like a good little user. Cause no one likes a player who doesn’t use addons. Especially in raids.
This is kind of a dead horse topic already, but….
Anet has already stated they won’t allow addon support. And in my own opinion, I don’t really care either way. Addons in WoW played the game for you. I’d hate to see that here.
Incorrect. If they played the game for you then the addon would be banned. All the addons did was add or condense information on your screen to make it easier to see or add UI features that the programmers didn’t bother adding or didn’t have time to. Not a single addon played the game for you.
There is tons of addons in WoW that play the game for you. Just look at Healbot, DBM, that addon that flashes what skills to click at certain times (can never remember the name), XPerl, Gatherer, Auctioner, etc.
All these addons do things for you that you used to do normally. DBM? Don’t need to figure anything out in boss fights anymore. This addon tells you exactly what is coming and when to move and what to do. Healbot? Easy to click bars that do all your healing for you so you don’t have to hotkey and bind everything yourself. Auctioner? Shop from the AH without going to the AH, catch deals before anyone can, etc. Gatherer? No more searching for nodes anymore. Just download the data from the site and it shows you everything on your map. There is even addons that reveal the entire map for you before you even discover it.
Point is, there is tons of addons that do things for you that you would normally have to do yourself. These so called “ease of access” addons actually play WoW for you basically to the point you don’t even have to try anymore.
Those are the kinds of things that we don’t need in GW2. I don’t mind cosmetic addons like something to pretty up your UI. Sure go for it, more power to you. But when addons start doing things for you that require no thinking for yourself, then it’s gone too far.
I’d rather see them concentrate more on the open world rather than have more instances.
Basically this.
You’re wondering why raids aren’t in GW2? They don’t belong here, simple enough.
In a game that is supposedly advancing the MMO genre with open world events happening every where, Raids would go completely against that. Yes, let’s toss a bunch of players into an instance away from this ever-changing world that we created.
And yes, I know dungeons do this as well, but dugeons are small groups and small in scale compared to the content in the world. With a raid, you’re looking at large scale content with a bunch of players tucked away in an instance.
Then we will have an even more empty world with players again spamming in LA for raids cause it will be the only way to advance in the game. Currently you can earn the same rewards from dungeons that you can earn in the open world. With Raids, you would lock away new content in an instance, leaving no alternatives (just like FotM which was a mistake imo as well, but at least they are working on ways to put Ascended gear in the world).
You know this could all be easy solved by just removing Magic Find and then normalizing drops.
Then no one can complain about the stat differences between Magic Find and regular gear, and drops would be fixed to not rely on Magic Find anymore. Everyone would have the same drop rate and no one would be gimped/gimping their team.
Drops are low as it is already, and it seems the only solution is to wear Magic Find gear. Which in turn, upsets other players in dungeons as they feel like the person in Magic Find gear, is contributing less for their own greed. So if they just fix drops and raise the drop rate, they can remove Magic Find gear and everyone will be happy. Right?
Just because it upsets some players, the players who actually enjoy it needs to pay up? That’s the weakest mindset I’ve heard yet.
“Well I’m upset when I get pwnd by a confusion build mesmer, better remove that and everybody will be happy. Right?”
What are you even talking about? Pay up? For what?
You won’t be punished if Magic Find is removed. Drops will be normalized for everyone so there will be no need for Magic Find anymore. It stops discrimination towards those who wear Magic Find and stops people from complaining about other contributing less cause they wear Magic Find gear.
Seriously, think before you speak. You didn’t even read what I wrote.
No I actually chose to wear MF knowing my DPS will drop. And yes, getting MF removed because people who don’t like it, is considered paying up in my dictionary (if that’s the right choice of words, my english sayings isn’t that great). What really makes people stop complaining is their own friggin mindset. When some random dude joins you for a dungeon, you can’t order them around what to wear and what not.
Yes, yes you can order them around. It is your group that you are forming. If someone does not meet your expectations, you can kick them or tell them what you expect. That is the point of making your own group. You make the rules, you choose what you want in your group. If you don’t want someone in full MF gear, kick them. It’s your group, you can do whatever you want.
And like you said. You choose to wear MF gear, even though your DPS drops. So you admit that you are contributing less to your party for your own selfish greed. Now if MF was removed and drops were normalized, you would be contributing 100% to your group and still getting the same drop rate chance that you would if you had MF gear.
So exactly what is the problem?
My party respects my decision, in the end it’s my decision I made. They actually enjoy my MF armor. Whenever I wear it, their rare drops have increased times 4 on an average dungeon run. Be it actual because of me, or just stupid plain old dumb luck and superstition, they like it. And that is way more contributing than a couple extra dps in my opinion.
MF only increases your own personal gain. It is not party wide. You are the only one who benefits from your MF gear, not them.
And at least you admit that your own personal greed is more important than your contribution to the party. Now I know why you are against my idea. Because you enjoy having that higher chance at loot over helping the group out more.
Yes, I enjoy the higher chance of having loot. Plus, my party enjoys it and doesn’t mind when I do. They wear it too, yet we get through most dungeons. Because we have FUN playing the game. We don’t need to win every kitten time. In the end it is a friggin game. They don’t order everybody to wear what they want. If you want something to order around, get a dog. Who are you to tell me what I need to do?
Again, what are you even talking about? I never told you what you need to do. Don’t put words in my mouth. I made a suggestion. You simply blew it out of proportion. Relax already.
And you’re right. In the end, it’s a game. So why are you getting so bent out of shape over it? I made a simple suggestion, yet you’re the one who is throwing a fit about it.
You’ve already said you enjoy having a higher drop chance at the expensive of less contribution to your party. So of course, you will disagree with my idea because it doesn’t make you “special”. But with all those who have already stated time and time again that they dislike MF, and those who are tired of being kicked from groups because they wear MF gear, this would be an ideal solution.
You know this could all be easy solved by just removing Magic Find and then normalizing drops.
Then no one can complain about the stat differences between Magic Find and regular gear, and drops would be fixed to not rely on Magic Find anymore. Everyone would have the same drop rate and no one would be gimped/gimping their team.
Drops are low as it is already, and it seems the only solution is to wear Magic Find gear. Which in turn, upsets other players in dungeons as they feel like the person in Magic Find gear, is contributing less for their own greed. So if they just fix drops and raise the drop rate, they can remove Magic Find gear and everyone will be happy. Right?
Just because it upsets some players, the players who actually enjoy it needs to pay up? That’s the weakest mindset I’ve heard yet.
“Well I’m upset when I get pwnd by a confusion build mesmer, better remove that and everybody will be happy. Right?”
What are you even talking about? Pay up? For what?
You won’t be punished if Magic Find is removed. Drops will be normalized for everyone so there will be no need for Magic Find anymore. It stops discrimination towards those who wear Magic Find and stops people from complaining about other contributing less cause they wear Magic Find gear.
Seriously, think before you speak. You didn’t even read what I wrote.
No I actually chose to wear MF knowing my DPS will drop. And yes, getting MF removed because people who don’t like it, is considered paying up in my dictionary (if that’s the right choice of words, my english sayings isn’t that great). What really makes people stop complaining is their own friggin mindset. When some random dude joins you for a dungeon, you can’t order them around what to wear and what not.
Yes, yes you can order them around. It is your group that you are forming. If someone does not meet your expectations, you can kick them or tell them what you expect. That is the point of making your own group. You make the rules, you choose what you want in your group. If you don’t want someone in full MF gear, kick them. It’s your group, you can do whatever you want.
And like you said. You choose to wear MF gear, even though your DPS drops. So you admit that you are contributing less to your party for your own selfish greed. Now if MF was removed and drops were normalized, you would be contributing 100% to your group and still getting the same drop rate chance that you would if you had MF gear.
So exactly what is the problem?
My party respects my decision, in the end it’s my decision I made. They actually enjoy my MF armor. Whenever I wear it, their rare drops have increased times 4 on an average dungeon run. Be it actual because of me, or just stupid plain old dumb luck and superstition, they like it. And that is way more contributing than a couple extra dps in my opinion.
MF only increases your own personal gain. It is not party wide. You are the only one who benefits from your MF gear, not them.
And at least you admit that your own personal greed is more important than your contribution to the party. Now I know why you are against my idea. Because you enjoy having that higher chance at loot over helping the group out more.
This is kind of a dead horse topic already, but….
Anet has already stated they won’t allow addon support. And in my own opinion, I don’t really care either way. Addons in WoW played the game for you. I’d hate to see that here.
You know this could all be easy solved by just removing Magic Find and then normalizing drops.
Then no one can complain about the stat differences between Magic Find and regular gear, and drops would be fixed to not rely on Magic Find anymore. Everyone would have the same drop rate and no one would be gimped/gimping their team.
Drops are low as it is already, and it seems the only solution is to wear Magic Find gear. Which in turn, upsets other players in dungeons as they feel like the person in Magic Find gear, is contributing less for their own greed. So if they just fix drops and raise the drop rate, they can remove Magic Find gear and everyone will be happy. Right?
Just because it upsets some players, the players who actually enjoy it needs to pay up? That’s the weakest mindset I’ve heard yet.
“Well I’m upset when I get pwnd by a confusion build mesmer, better remove that and everybody will be happy. Right?”
What are you even talking about? Pay up? For what?
You won’t be punished if Magic Find is removed. Drops will be normalized for everyone so there will be no need for Magic Find anymore. It stops discrimination towards those who wear Magic Find and stops people from complaining about other contributing less cause they wear Magic Find gear.
Seriously, think before you speak. You didn’t even read what I wrote.
No I actually chose to wear MF knowing my DPS will drop. And yes, getting MF removed because people who don’t like it, is considered paying up in my dictionary (if that’s the right choice of words, my english sayings isn’t that great). What really makes people stop complaining is their own friggin mindset. When some random dude joins you for a dungeon, you can’t order them around what to wear and what not.
Yes, yes you can order them around. It is your group that you are forming. If someone does not meet your expectations, you can kick them or tell them what you expect. That is the point of making your own group. You make the rules, you choose what you want in your group. If you don’t want someone in full MF gear, kick them. It’s your group, you can do whatever you want.
And like you said. You choose to wear MF gear, even though your DPS drops. So you admit that you are contributing less to your party for your own selfish greed. Now if MF was removed and drops were normalized, you would be contributing 100% to your group and still getting the same drop rate chance that you would if you had MF gear.
So exactly what is the problem?
You know this could all be easy solved by just removing Magic Find and then normalizing drops.
Then no one can complain about the stat differences between Magic Find and regular gear, and drops would be fixed to not rely on Magic Find anymore. Everyone would have the same drop rate and no one would be gimped/gimping their team.
Drops are low as it is already, and it seems the only solution is to wear Magic Find gear. Which in turn, upsets other players in dungeons as they feel like the person in Magic Find gear, is contributing less for their own greed. So if they just fix drops and raise the drop rate, they can remove Magic Find gear and everyone will be happy. Right?
Just because it upsets some players, the players who actually enjoy it needs to pay up? That’s the weakest mindset I’ve heard yet.
“Well I’m upset when I get pwnd by a confusion build mesmer, better remove that and everybody will be happy. Right?”
What are you even talking about? Pay up? For what?
You won’t be punished if Magic Find is removed. Drops will be normalized for everyone so there will be no need for Magic Find anymore. It stops discrimination towards those who wear Magic Find and stops people from complaining about other contributing less cause they wear Magic Find gear.
Seriously, think before you speak. You didn’t even read what I wrote.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Personality
Unsure what you mean. It has been in since beta and works just as it is supposed to. What exactly isn’t implemented with it?
You know this could all be easy solved by just removing Magic Find and then normalizing drops.
Then no one can complain about the stat differences between Magic Find and regular gear, and drops would be fixed to not rely on Magic Find anymore. Everyone would have the same drop rate and no one would be gimped/gimping their team.
Drops are low as it is already, and it seems the only solution is to wear Magic Find gear. Which in turn, upsets other players in dungeons as they feel like the person in Magic Find gear, is contributing less for their own greed. So if they just fix drops and raise the drop rate, they can remove Magic Find gear and everyone will be happy. Right?
You can try reporting him for griefing, but that’s about it.
Jerks will be jerks. Sadly besides what I said above, not much can be done about it. Can only really ignore them and just wait it out till they move on. I know it sucks, but that’s really all you can do.
I think the downside with money in GW2, is the fact that it isn’t easy to come by. I mean, sure making money can be easy to some, but just playing the game naturally won’t make you money.
For instance, take other games like WoW for example. By the time you’re level 10, you’ve already made about 10-20g just from playing the game normally. No farming or working the AH to make more money, just regular questing.
But then you got GW2. By the time you are level 10, you have made about 10-20 silver. That’s just from playing the game normally without farming or working the TP. You don’t make a lot of money from just playing the game normally in GW2 as you do in other games.
So naturally, everyone is farming hardcore to make money in this game. And with DR and nerfs to loot drops and such, you need to farm or work the TP to make any decent money. Unlike other games that provide you with plenty of money without having to farm and such. I remember playing these other games to run stuff for gear or just to do them for other things. Never had to farm for money as it was easy to obtain. Now in GW2, I find myself running things just to try to make a few silver, instead of trying to get gear or doing them for fun.
For people who don’t farm constantly or work the TP, money is hard to come by. So naturally, everything we do is to try to earn money.
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Engi’s grenades are still overpowered, I think another 10% reduction is in place.
I know right? Good thing Engineers aren’t 90% AoE… oh wait….
Time to shelf my Engineer. Just when I was getting back into them.
You can kick a player for any reason you want. You can’t get banned for kicking someone from a group.
If they report you, oh well. There is nothing that will get you banned for kicking them so you have nothing to worry about.
Does someone want to elaborate? I know nothing about City of Heros or what the OP is talking about.
City of Heroes was an amazing MMO owned by NCSoft that was shut down recently (not really recently, but a month or so ago). It held a lot of memories for gamers and is missed greatly.
The GM he is speaking of, was a GM for City of Heroes and has now taken a place here in Guild Wars 2. They are a well known GM there and players from City of Heroes are happy to have him here (or it is just another GM named the same, I might be mistaken).
That’s the quick summary.
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