Guild Wars 2

They just need to take the LFG tool from GW1, and add it to GW2. That’s it. The one in GW1 was perfect. Except make it zone wide so you can be anywhere and still find groups.

Just don’t make an auto-queue system like WoW and all those other MMOs have. We don’t need that sort of laziness here. Keep it like GW1’s LFG tool and everything will be fine.

Katai.6240:

Okay, I’ll go ahead and say it.

I like the time sinks and dailies! I would prefer it you don’t change things I like to do just because you don’t want to do them.

Hypocrite much?

So everyone should be forced to do what you like because you don’t want them to change it for those that don’t like it? Perfect logic there….

draakdorei.9436:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

/sigh

Relax everybody. It was no flash sale, OP is misinformed. There was no twitter only sale. It is the March sale that is going on this whole month, as advertised on the front page of this site.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/31-days-of-sales-in-the-gem-store/

Each day in March we’re putting a different item on sale in the Gem Store! Save from 15% to 40% on boosters, upgrades, consumables and more! Each sale begins and ends at midnight Pacific Standard Time, so make sure to check the Promotions tab in the Gem Store every day in March to see the daily savings!

It was a flash sale.
OP was not misinformed about the sale, only the date of it.

Flash Sale: There are 500 Black Lion Salvage Kits in the Gem Store for sale at 50% off! Hurry–once the 500 are gone, the sale is over! ~RB2
Posted: 3:01 PM – Mar 6, 2013
https://twitter.com/GuildWars2/status/309438628965273600

All 500 kits sold out in 15 minutes or less.

Ah my mistake then and apologizes. I just assumed they were talking about the March sale going on every day of this month. I don’t visit their twitter or any social sites, so I didn’t know.

In that case then, I definitely agree that it was wrong of them to do that.

Oh nice. Thanks for keeping us informed of this. Would of never knew myself if I didn’t see this.

/sigh

Relax everybody. It was no flash sale, OP is misinformed. There was no twitter only sale. It is the March sale that is going on this whole month, as advertised on the front page of this site.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/31-days-of-sales-in-the-gem-store/

Each day in March we’re putting a different item on sale in the Gem Store! Save from 15% to 40% on boosters, upgrades, consumables and more! Each sale begins and ends at midnight Pacific Standard Time, so make sure to check the Promotions tab in the Gem Store every day in March to see the daily savings!

IVIUIEI.9631:

Are we able to have more than 8 characted slots?

I don’t think anyone has reached the limit yet. I think I recall someone having 23 slots so far as the max anyone has.

GW1 had a max of 35 slots, so maybe it’s that?

darkace.8925:

vespers.1759:

)although yes i guess it does make you irrelevant when you can’t complete content because you lack the gear.)

Which is? I’m still waiting for you to name one thing I I cannot do unless I’m wearing full exotics or better. Just one…

They are talking about Ascended gear, not Exotic gear. Again, please learn to read. You are constantly taking everything out of context and not bothering to read.

I mean heck, you are the one who said “Ascended gear makes you relevant, while Exotic gear makes you irrelevant”. Which is what the quoted post was referring to. Not Exotics, but Ascended.

darkace.8925:

vespers.1759:

some of us enjoy being relevant

So having ascended gear makes you relevant, and having exotic gear makes you irrelevant? My good sir/madam, I do believe you’re doing it wrong.

Actually, you’re wrong. When doing high level Fractals, Ascended gear makes you relevant. Not having it makes you irrelevant. Exotics don’t provide Agony resistance, which is needed in high level Fractals. Thus, why it is needed.

darkace.8925:

Oh, so we’re going to move the goalpost by saying “yeah, you can do everything. But can can you do it in X amount of time?”

You’re responding to the wrong person. I was just clarifying what you misread from someone else you quoted.

darkace.8925:

somsom.5201:

Or any of the myriad of groups starting to require Ascended gear. We all know that Exotic is a requirement now. To suggest that Ascended won’t be at some point…please, don’t kid yourself.

Name one thing…just one…that I cannot do unless I have exotic equipment. Not ascended…exotic. Just one…

Again, learn to read. He is talking about groups requiring you to be fully geared in exotics. Speed clear groups do this a lot for example.

You seem to have a lot of trouble reading what is actually being said before you open your mouth to something unrelated. Take the time to read first before responding. Will save you the trouble of having to explain yourself later.

Different armors have different “tints” so to say. They won’t always match up if you’re not wearing the matching set. If you use different pieces that are not part of the matching set, you’re going to have mismatched colors.

darkace.8925:

stof.9341:

They did? Didn’t notice. So far we had to run fractals to get the rings. Then they added a time gated way to get them with laurels. Problem is, I HAVE to use those laurels to get the necklace, so I cannot spend them for rings. So in the end, they didn’t really add a new way to get the rings.

As for that, then necklaces still only have one way to get them : Laurels. The mystic crafted one doesn’t count since it’s only one bad stat set it provides.

So far, they didn’t add new ways to get the ascended gear I for me.

Obtained from Fractals? “I don’t want to grind a dungeon for BiS gear.”
Obtained from Dailies? “I don’t want to wait to get BiS gear.”
Obtained via Gold? “It don’t want to grind gold for BiS gear.”
Obtained from Gem Store? “I don’t want to pay2win for BiS gear.”
Obtained from challenging fights? “It’s too hard to get BiS gear.”

What’s left? Do you people seriously think BiS gear obtained with no investment of time or effort?

Your post has nothing to do with what the quoted post was talking about. They never said anything about the effort it took to get them. They didn’t want things handed to them at all. They are talking about wanting alternate methods of obtaining Ascended gear.

Read before you post.

Actually there is a lot more strategy involved without the trinity than there is with it.

With GW2, you have to work together as a group. In all honesty, it requires a lot more coordination than the trinity as well. Working together to drop heals, procs at the right times, switching aggro, knowing when to cast protections and move out of the way of things. It’s a lot more complex and requires more teamwork. Without the trinity, you have to actually know your class and what works well with other classes and know how to play.

Your traditional Holy Trinity is just dull and a cake walk. Tank runs in, healer tosses a few HoTs on them, and he holds aggro. Sitting there, doing nothing but holding aggro. Healer sits there watching health bars and tosses a heal here and there, while DPS just sits there spamming every attack they have to top the charts. Yeah, that’s much more complex and fun.

Vayne.8563:

If you’d stop lying to your friends about what’s needed to play the game, maybe word of mouth wouldn’t be so bad. But once you say you NEED this end game gear (which you would in other games, but not in this one), then you are essentially doing the game a disservice.

BIS gear is a must in most games because of gated content. Here’s it’s a luxury and a compromise.

Maybe you should let people who play this game explain it to your friends instead.

WvWvW is a competitive place. You’re out to be the best of the best. Players versus players to prove who is better and compete against each other. In order to be the best, you need the best gear. Sure if you want to be mediocre, go with lower stat gear. But you’ll never be the best.

In WvWvW, Ascended gear makes a difference. 6 accessories is not a minor boost. That’s a rather big boost over someone wearing just exotics. And when the rest of the Ascended gear arrives (I’m talking full armor and weapons as well), you can bet that you are going to need it to stay competitive in WvWvW.

So they are not lying. They are speaking the truth. Ascended gear is a need to stay competitive in WvWvW. And it is a need when you are doing Fractals as well. If it wasn’t needed, then there would be no point to even have it.

darkace.8925:

vespers.1759:

i’m also not required to get exotics, or do dungeons, or level at all. if i wanted to i could stand in a field and /dance 24h a day so does that mean we shouldn’t try to fix things we find ridiculous?

That’s EXACTLY right. If you don’t find getting exotics, doing dungeons, or leveling at all to be fun, you’d be a kitten fool to waste time doing it. The simple solution…the ONLY solution…is to find something you enjoy doing and do that. And if you can’t find anything you enjoy doing, then it’s time to find another game to play. Period.

vespers.1759:

your argument is terrible.

No, it isn’t. That you think it is tells me all I need to know about you.

So instead of people trying to give feedback and express their concerns with suggestions (that many of us share I might add), you think we should just quit instead? So because we are unhappy with one aspect, and are providing our feedback on it, we should just leave the game.

You realize there would be barely anyone playing this game if we all took your completely logical approach right? I’m sure Anet appreciates you telling everyone to quit their game if they don’t like something, instead of providing feedback and expressing their concerns.

Jrunyon.3012:

They have already said they are going to be adding new ways to obtain them.

How about you just be patient, and maybe even realize that ascended stuff isn’t the end game, its an optional path to take in gearing up your character.

Yes, let’s be patient for something they said back in November. It is what now? March?

They’ve added two new Ascended items since then and guess what? They gated those as well as the first one. They didn’t make them obtainable through other means. They gated them straight from the start. What’s worse, is they admit it was a mistake to gate the first set of Ascended gear. But they did it two more times after that.

So when exactly is this supposed way of obtaining them through other means going to happen? Or are they going to keep gating all Ascended gear being introduced, and then after we have a full set, they will make other ways to obtain them? So by then, we’ll have a ton more currencies to add to the tons we have already, and then other options to get Ascended gear in probably 2014.

Yeah, let’s just be patient for that.

Danikat.8537:

Rukia.4802:

SneakyErvin.3056:

Since it’s not a world wide festivity I dont see why they should. It’s just a very irish christian celebration that stretches to irish parts of america.

Personally, with the mythos around Saint Patrick, I dont see it fitting at all to celebrate this day in a worldwide multicultural game.

As a very strongly non-christian I would personally find it very offensive for such a celebration to take place, especially due to the story about St. Patrick driving the “snakes” from ireland. Aswell as the destruction of ancient celtic monuments.

Thats not something that should be celebrated.

You’re taking it too literally/seriously it’s just supposed to be a fun celebration, an excuse to party or wear green. GW1 also held events for things like year of the dragon.

I’m athiest and no holiday bothers me.

It depends where you are in the world. In America it’s mostly a day for people to get drunk and joke about being “Irish for the day” but in Ireland it’s still primarily a religious holiday and a celebration of the nations history. In a lot of places it’s not celebrated at all.

And yes a lot of pagans, in Ireland and elsewhere, are offended by the idea of celebrating St. Partrick, who is best known for “driving the snakes out of Ireland” which (since there have never been actual snakes in Ireland) is commonly interpreted as driving out (and/or killing) the native pagans.

Good thing this is a video game and we don’t have real life holidays, right?

A video game holiday is similar, but they are not the same. They don’t celebrate them as we do in real life, they are tuned to the world in the video game.

So everyone please get off your atheist podium and relax. Just because we celebrate something like Christmas in the real world, doesn’t mean we can’t have Wintersday. They have different meanings and similar themes. That’s all.

Instantly, your concept is flawed. You’re comparing a single player experience to an online MMO experience. Two completely different things with completely different mechanics. You can’t put a single player experience in an MMO, as it would never work.

In a single player game, they can do all that and make everything revolve around you and immerse you in everything perfectly. There is no competition, no balance needed, nothing. It is all about you and no one else.

But in an MMO, you have to set rules and requirements. There is millions of players at one time and they have to all be considered in everything. It doesn’t just revolve around you and balance is needed to keep everything in check for everyone.

You just can’t compare the two, sorry. They will never work together.

Martin Kerstein.3071:

To test pre-launch that our progression formula is working correctly, we used test items of higher levels. This is one of them. You can start breathing again.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/lvl-100-Test-Ring-on-GW2DB-Lvl-Cap-Increase/

Just a quote from that thread about the ring. And a quote from an interview on reddit that talks about raising the level cap.

“I hope we’ve been clear that GW2 is not a game with virtually no stat progression in it like GW1 was. That’s why GW2 shipped with a higher level cap, and with a hard separation between PVE and PVP.

“In GW1 we never advanced the level cap through four campaigns/expansions. The game design didn’t allow for it. But GW2 was designed without those restrictions, and we’ve always expected that we will someday raise the level cap in GW2.”

http://www.gamefront.com/guild-wars-2-level-cap-raise-confirmed-for-future/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/13tuac/im_the_studio_design_director_on_guild_wars_2_ama/

Darek.1836:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

One thing I miss from WoW that I would enjoy seeing in GW2, is the Gurubashi Arena.

Just a large open arena for players to drop down into, and once you fall in, you are instantly flagged for PvP and anyone and everyone can attack you. Would love to see this in GW2.

And just an FYI, we already have 2v2 Arena PvP.

Two Team Rated Play in PvP

t’s time to prove your skill! In this new type of competitive PvP, two teams of equal average rating are pitted against each other in a quick, intense match. The ratings for every member of each team is then adjusted after the match.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/february-2013/

lol if you’ve actually done that you’d know “2 team” doesn’t mean 2 players, it means 2 teams of 5 players each, only 1 round so you dont go against several teams consecutively.

Ah, my mistake then. I was just going off some posts around here that said it was a 2v2 arena, which led me to assume it was. Haven’t done it personally myself. Thanks for clearing that up.

I remember somewhere that someone mentioned it was in reference to the Onyx Gate that guards the Door of Komalie. But it could just be speculation.

Ishiga.6053:

VidGhost.3215:

The quest is still in this game.. its called “personal story mode”

See this is a perfect springboard for what I was going to say.

This is essentially correct in that this is how traditional questing is handled in this game as opposed to others. Even then it’s not the typical collect x magi-leaves or kill x feral scoodily-poopers.

It’s an actual quest. A task you have to complete through many different steps. This is what any type of questing should be like in this game. Since they seem to like instancing stuff, they could make instances for these. They’d be much smaller in scope than the story but they’d all be different tasks that don’t require an actual number grind save for maybe activating some Asuran device and it needs so many salvaged somethings – things in proper context instead of just mindless culling or some such bunk.

How’s that idea strike people?

Now that is something I could get behind. Like Mini-Personal Stories. Have them for each area, or even a few for certain parts of an area, to help present the story and give you a feel of the background of things in the surrounding area.

Heck, even have them in capital cities to add some life to cities as well. Like uncover a plot, disrupt a secret base, deliver items, work the bar, etc. Just small things to add immersion and help tell a story.

Nice idea.

Rifter.6591:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Ignore the naysayers and doom whisperers. They are just bent cause of pointless reasons, so they claim Anet is out to get them now.

Every game company does the exact same thing. Not just Anet. They will never tell you if disciplinary action is taken against the offenders. It is not your business to know that information any ways. And pretty much all of them will tell you they will not give you free loot cause a group kicked you before the boss died. If they did, people would claim it all the time and abuse it. No company gives you free loot because of jerk players.

All you can do is provide a screenshot and report them. Give names, time, and incident as clearly as you can. Then move on with your life and hope they get what is coming to them. Don’t let one little group of children ruin your whole experience.

I like how you say dont listen to the naysayers, then go on to say they(anet) arnt going to do anything about it or bother to compensate you, and then even go on to say you should still waste your time reporting them.

Why on earth waste even more time on the matter to report them when by your own admission nothing is going to get done to them and nothing is going to get done to compensate you.

Reporting them is nothing more than a waste of time, your time would be better spent finding a guild to play with.

I never said Anet would do nothing. I said they won’t tell you what they will do to the offenders, and every game company will not compensate you just cause you were kicked from a group. I’m sorry, but that is how all game companies work. They will not give you free loot just cause some meanies decided to kick you from a group at the last boss. They will however look into the issue if you send them a detailed report about what happened, and if it is genuinely all the offender’s fault, then they will take action.

You act like this is only Anet that does this. Every gaming company does this. So you can either send in a detailed report and move on afterwards, or do absolutely nothing and know that nothing will be done about it cause you didn’t report it.

Honestly, I have no idea. Those are the codes though that people use for foreign characters in all systems though.

Never tried it myself in GW2, but they work fine in all other games. If other people are using them, then I don’t see why they wouldn’t.

And if all else fails, find someone in game that uses them and ask how they did it. I don’t see anything in the rules that states it is not allowed, so I don’t see a problem.

Quarktastic.1027:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Unlike GW2 where your actions will actually matter. If you ignore that event, the bandits will burn down that town and they will kidnap the townsfolk. Then you get a whole new event to put out those fires and save them.

None of this happens. Bandits may attack a farm. If you fail the event to repel them, guess what they do. They stand around doing nothing until someone comes along and clears them out. Then the whole thing repeats 30 minutes later.

It’s a step in the right direction, but nothing you do has any impact on the game whatsoever.

That is exactly what I said though. They take over the camp, or burn it down, or kidnap the townsfolk. Which starts a whole new chain of events. It resets when someone completes the chain and starts it again. The bandits don’t magically disappear. Someone has to come along and clear it out.

But still, in the end, it is still way better than an outdated traditional system where nothing at all happens.

sostronk.8167:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

sostronk.8167:

This is an MMO. There is no place for real PvP in an MMO.

You do realize MMO stands for Massive Multiplayer Online right? Meaning in order to have PvP, it has to be in an MMO environment in the first place. Everything that has PvP is an MMO.

Go ahead and have your argument with yourself about how every game on the internet is an MMO. Im not interested.

What? That makes no sense. What argument?

I was simply saying that in order to have PvP, it has to be an MMO. Because PvP stands for Player versus Player. Which can only be done in an MMO atmosphere. You know, a multiplayer online game. If you cannot connect online, and there is no multiplayer, than you cannot have PvP. It is a single player game instead.

Games like Halo, Call of Duty, WoW, Battlefield, anything that allows you to go online and play against other players is an MMO.

It is just stating a fact. No reason to get all defensive about it.

Quarktastic.1027:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

I really hope not. The traditional questing system is so outdated and stale. Plus it goes against the whole “grind to level” philosophy.

With a traditional questing system, you get quest after quest telling you to constantly go kill 10 boars, go kill 10 wolves, go kill 10 orcs, etc etc. You pick up a quest, run out to the area, stand there and kill 10 of each, then run back to the NPC for your reward and get the next quest that makes you do the same thing again. It’s a back and forth grind that is outdated and stale.

This new system is perfect. No more running back and forth, no more grinding so many mobs over and over, and more choices on how you want to level up. And it is all actually happening as well. There is no, “Oh no! We are being attacked! Kill 10 pigs!” and all the pigs are sitting in a field doing nothing but grazing. Now instead we got mobs actually attacking instead of doing nothing in events.

It would be a downgrade to bring in an outdated quest system with what we have now.

Do they have cake in that little fantasy world of yours?

Anet didn’t do anything intuitive with their new “event” systems. All they did was remove the quest NPCs. You’re still killing X of Y, you just don’t have to talk to any NPCs along the way.

What fantasy world would it be without cake?

While it is slightly true that you still kill “10 rats”, it is a choice now. Take for instance, the event in Gendarran Fields. You can put out fires or kill bandits. Same in Queensdale when you have to protect the farm. Put out fires or kill the bandits. There is many events that don’t require killing things.

And I think the event system is still a better system than a quest system. Cause as you said, there is no NPCs to deal with. No running back and forth to get rewarded. It is a fluid motion. And the events are actually happening in real time, not some static mob that you have to kill in a field doing nothing.

And nothing is going to happen if you don’t do that quest in a traditional MMO. They aren’t going to burn down the village or kidnap anyone. Nothing different will occur if you don’t do a quest. Unlike GW2 where your actions will actually matter. If you ignore that event, the bandits will burn down that town and they will kidnap the townsfolk. Then you get a whole new event to put out those fires and save them.

Sorry but that is way better than a text quest that tells me to kill random mobs in a field with no consequences if I do it or not.

sostronk.8167:

This is an MMO. There is no place for real PvP in an MMO.

You do realize MMO stands for Massive Multiplayer Online right? Meaning in order to have PvP, it has to be in an MMO environment in the first place. Everything that has PvP is an MMO.

http://www.alt-codes.net/

Go wild and have fun.

I really hope not. The traditional questing system is so outdated and stale. Plus it goes against the whole “grind to level” philosophy.

With a traditional questing system, you get quest after quest telling you to constantly go kill 10 boars, go kill 10 wolves, go kill 10 orcs, etc etc. You pick up a quest, run out to the area, stand there and kill 10 of each, then run back to the NPC for your reward and get the next quest that makes you do the same thing again. It’s a back and forth grind that is outdated and stale.

This new system is perfect. No more running back and forth, no more grinding so many mobs over and over, and more choices on how you want to level up. And it is all actually happening as well. There is no, “Oh no! We are being attacked! Kill 10 pigs!” and all the pigs are sitting in a field doing nothing but grazing. Now instead we got mobs actually attacking instead of doing nothing in events.

It would be a downgrade to bring in an outdated quest system with what we have now.

One thing I miss from WoW that I would enjoy seeing in GW2, is the Gurubashi Arena.

Just a large open arena for players to drop down into, and once you fall in, you are instantly flagged for PvP and anyone and everyone can attack you. Would love to see this in GW2.

And just an FYI, we already have 2v2 Arena PvP.

Two Team Rated Play in PvP

t’s time to prove your skill! In this new type of competitive PvP, two teams of equal average rating are pitted against each other in a quick, intense match. The ratings for every member of each team is then adjusted after the match.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/february-2013/

Hais of the dreams.4803:

i am not claiming , i proved it , screen shots and the conversation have been sent to them

I didn’t say you claimed anything. You did exactly what you were supposed to do. You were unfairly treated, so you made a screenshot and sent it to support. That is all you have to do. Don’t expect them to reply or give you a decent discussion on the matter. Don’t expect them to tell you what is going to happen to the offenders, or to give you free loot cause you lost out on it.

You send in the report, and you move on. That is how all game companies handle the situation, Anet is no different.

Ignore the naysayers and doom whisperers. They are just bent cause of pointless reasons, so they claim Anet is out to get them now.

Every game company does the exact same thing. Not just Anet. They will never tell you if disciplinary action is taken against the offenders. It is not your business to know that information any ways. And pretty much all of them will tell you they will not give you free loot cause a group kicked you before the boss died. If they did, people would claim it all the time and abuse it. No company gives you free loot because of jerk players.

All you can do is provide a screenshot and report them. Give names, time, and incident as clearly as you can. Then move on with your life and hope they get what is coming to them. Don’t let one little group of children ruin your whole experience.

Rather old, but:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/easter-eggs-and-references/first

Has a list of all kinds of hidden stuff people have found.

All my characters carry an Invisible Bag on them (mini pets, weapons, etc).

I always carry their unique starter gear in it, just incase I find something to match it later down the road. Or just to hold onto it, cause you’ll never get it again. My Guardian currently wears the shoulder skin.

Balance should always be set around the performance of a certain profession. Not around how complex a profession is to play.

You can’t balance based off someone’s opinion. A profession like the Engineer may seem complex to play to some people, while others find it the easiest to play. You can’t make that profession stronger just cause a few players find it harder to play and think they should be stronger because of it.

They should never change something that people have already paid for. That’s like the biggest no no ever. People bought the product because they liked what it was when they bought it. They didn’t buy it so you could change it later down the road to something they will hate. That just causes a lot of anger and justified demands for refunds.

I hope this is just a bug and that they didn’t change it intentionally.

KOLZ.4501:

Flamenco.3894:

I love the gear grinding Mike O Brian. Thanks for telling us about doing a dungeon over and over to get gear that’s clearly better than anything else and that long before release, I appreciate being well-informed.

So…basically you wanna do a dungeon once and get an entire set right?

I don’t think that is what he meant. I think he means he wants it reduced, not just one run.

Look at it this way. You get 30 tokens from one explorable path each day. 3 paths, gets you 90 tokens. It takes a total of 1,380 tokens to get one set of armor (this is not counting runes and a weapon). If you run the dungeons more than once a day, DR kicks in and you get less tokens per run. That is 46 runs in one dungeon just to get an armor set (not counting runes and a weapon). And if DR kicks in, that’s even more runs.

Now does 46 runs in one dungeon sound reasonable for an armor set? No, it doesn’t. No one is asking for 1 run = 1 set of gear. They are asking to reduce the amount of grind that is needed to obtain that set of gear. Cause 46 runs without DR in one dungeon, is one heck of an amount of grind.

Tybalt, Sieran, and Forgal, just need to stop being lazy and click on the waypoint already to resurrect. I mean, gosh. Way to be overly dramatic about the whole thing.

Unless of course they don’t have the money for repairs and all their gear is broken so they are naked. Then I understand why they haven’t resurrected yet.

Man this is a tough one.

Well, I’d probably… oh wait that’s right. I already play the best profession.

Mesmer! Why would I want to be anything else when I reign superiority over everything?

Reaver speaks the truth, even though he is our Enemy!!! (he just wants more people to add to his kill count)

Tarnished Coast is a great world to start in. Very friendly community, always players in all areas, and some great WvW guilds and some amazing Commanders to lead us. We are also told that we are the main PvE world as well (because someone said so on the forums and now everyone is guesting there for events).

But we are also the Unofficial Roleplaying world as well (for NA). So expect to see players roleplaying and such. And be respectful of that as well if you join us.

Lorelei.7809:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Ursan.7846:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

And if you want to go title route, you can play GW1 all the way through without using a single title skill.

You can also play GW2 all the way through without a single Ascended item.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

So sorry, but no. There was no vertical progression there either.

No, there is. Just because it’s optional doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. It’s there.

Which is wrong cause you can’t do high level Fractals without having Ascended gear. And when the full set of Ascended gear is released, you can bet that it is going to make a big enough impact that you’ll need it to survive in WvWvW as well.

In GW1, you can play any of the content the game offers without a single PvE skill required. You don’t need to grind out titles to max those skills out, because they are never required to complete any content. In GW2 on the other hand, you can’t complete all the content the game offers without having Ascended gear. Fractals requires Agony resistance in the higher levels, thus requiring you to have Ascended gear.

Two completely different things. One is optional, the other is required.

In GW1 your gear needed to be infused to combat Spectral Agony in PvE. You couldn’t play Prophecies without infused gear (their first storyline). You couldn’t play the War in Kryta content without infused gear. You also needed to be Ascended to get the infused gear to combat Spectral Agony which pretty much insta-killed you if your gear wasn’t infused due to being heavy damage per second, which you couldn’t remove like a condition

So, spectral agony, infusion, and ascended gear came back from GW. They’re so ridiculously similar. At least in GW2, it’s relegated to Fractals, not necessary to finish the main storyline.

Two completely different things there. Infusion in GW1 didn’t make you stronger or give you higher stats did it? No, it did not. Getting Ascended in GW1 didn’t make you stronger or give you higher stats did it? No, it did not.

Ascended items in GW2 and Infusions in GW2 give you higher stats don’t they? Yes they do. So sorry, but they did not “come back” from GW1. They are two completely different things.

Lorelei.7809:

If you’re a paragon that wants to play elite areas, you needed to max out your kurzick and sunspear titles and it was also nice if you maxed out your lightbringer. So three titles. Three titles

You also needed to progress in your Sunspear title to continue in the story of Nightfall (particularly if you were a Nightfall-based character, but also if you were not).

And again, you didn’t NEED to max out any thing. You didn’t NEED those three titles. It was not required of you by Anet to have those titles maxed was it? No, it wasn’t. You only WANTED them maxed for your own personal benefit. There is no requirement saying you had to have those titles maxed or you couldn’t play specific content.

And really? Sunspear title? The requirement for that title to progress through the story was so low, that it took no effort to reach it.

Ursan.7846:

I don’t see Anet saying you required agony resistance for high level fractals either. They’re not. You can step into a 40 fractal with 0 agony resist you know.

Actually, they did say that.

Players who wish to delve deep into the Fractals will find that Agony makes progress increasingly difficult, until they reach the point where some defense against this condition is a must.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/

And after seeing Rainbeetle’s post, he pointed out another very good point.

The runes and insignias in GW1 never became stronger. They stayed the same. They didn’t keep adding more and more higher stat runes to the game to make your old ones obsolete. It all flattened out, thus being horizontal.

In GW2, Ascended is just the start of vertical progression. Anet has already stated they are going forward with vertical progression and have plans on releasing new tiers down the road. As well, they are going to increase the level cap which means obvious new tiers, rendering your gear now, obsolete.

This never happened in GW1. Everything stayed at a specific power plateau and never went above it. Thus why it was horizontal.

Mackdose.6504:

Halandir.3609:

Mackdose.6504:

Oh hey, look at the defensive responses here:
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These games are apples and oranges. The concept of gaining power over time is very much vertical progression, whether it’s on armor or not.

So… you added “Apples and oranges”?

Good for you. Personally, I am impressed! Thank you for that valid and eye opening insight.
I will definately try to shut my “defensive” mouth!

(Hmm, ok try – but its all apples and some other fruits I guess…)

You could try reading the thread. There’s two separate posts above mine using the “apples and oranges” defense while disregarding the fact that GW1 and GW2 are vastly different. For the better in my opinion.

However, just because they are different implementations of vertical progression, vertical progression exists in both.

And you could try reading the thread as well.

The whole “apples to oranges” comment was because they were comparing Insignias in GW1, to armor in GW2. Instead of comparing Insignias in GW1, to Runes in GW2. Insignias are not armor. They are enhancements. Just like runes are enhancements to armor in GW2. You can’t compare an enhancement to the actual armor and call them the same thing.

Thus why “apples to oranges” was used.

Ursan.7846:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Which is wrong cause you can’t do high level Fractals without having Ascended gear. And when the full set of Ascended gear is released, you can bet that it is going to make a big enough impact that you’ll need it to survive in WvWvW as well.

I’d like to see you doing Mallyx, or heck the entire DoA, with rank 0 Lightbringer. Or doing Hardmode Dungeons without any of the PvE skills (SY/TNtF).

By the way, high level fractals are still do-able without agony resistance. Most agony attacks can be dodged. Jade Maw is the only attack that you can’t dodge. And even that can be avoided if you do odd numbered fractals. It’s obviously stupid to do, because agony resistance makes it much easier. But it’s the same exact thing with GW1.

EDIT: Also, Fractals is gated difficulty, not gated content. You can play through all 9 fractals. Slight difference.

So you are skipping content to avoid having to use Ascended items? So you are still saying that you need Agony Resistance, which requires Ascended items, to defeat Jade Maw then right? Otherwise, you have to skip him which means skipping content because you don’t have the required gear for it. So again, Ascended items are required to do Fractals.

And it is perfectly possible to do DoA and all the HM Dungeons without PvE skills. I don’t see anywhere saying that it is required that I bring them do you? Did Anet make a statement saying that in order to do those dungeons, I am required to bring PvE skills? No, they did not. They are not required for anything.

Fixed a recently introduced performance issue.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-February-26-2013/first#post1548785

Ursan.7846:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

And if you want to go title route, you can play GW1 all the way through without using a single title skill.

You can also play GW2 all the way through without a single Ascended item.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

So sorry, but no. There was no vertical progression there either.

No, there is. Just because it’s optional doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. It’s there.

Which is wrong cause you can’t do high level Fractals without having Ascended gear. And when the full set of Ascended gear is released, you can bet that it is going to make a big enough impact that you’ll need it to survive in WvWvW as well.

In GW1, you can play any of the content the game offers without a single PvE skill required. You don’t need to grind out titles to max those skills out, because they are never required to complete any content. In GW2 on the other hand, you can’t complete all the content the game offers without having Ascended gear. Fractals requires Agony resistance in the higher levels, thus requiring you to have Ascended gear.

Two completely different things. One is optional, the other is required.

Ursan.7846:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

You’re comparing armor to insignias. Which is right away, completely wrong.

If anything, you should be comparing insignias to runes in GW2, cause that is what they are. Armor wise, GW1 didn’t go the vertical progression route. The armor is the same. Adding insignias is not comparable to vertical progression in GW2.

Vertical progression in GW2 is based on higher stat armor. No runes/gems/infusions and such. Just adding higher stats to armor. They didn’t do that in GW1. All armor was horizontal in GW1, cause they never added a higher stat armor to the game. GW1 has insignias to make your gear stronger, just like GW2 has runes/gems/infusions to make your gear stronger as well.

You’re trying to compare apples to oranges and it just doesn’t work.

Higher stats = higher stats, whether it comes from a new tier of armor or armor upgrades. This is ignoring the fact that for certain builds, certain upgrades were REQUIRED (55 monk? perma SR sin?) whereas more numbers from a ascneded isn’t really required.

Regardless, if you really don’t like comparing the armor upgrades, what about the titles? And how grinding out titles made you do more damage?

What I was saying, is you’re comparing just the insignias in GW1, to just the armor in GW2. Which are two completely different things.

Armor in GW1 never got higher stats. Armor in GW2, is getting higher stats.
Insignias add to the armor in GW1. Runes add to the armor in GW2.

Insignias are comparable to Runes, not armor. That’s like comparing a battery to a remote control, instead of comparing the battery to another battery. The battery enhances the remote control by making it work. It isn’t a remote control on it’s own. It is an attachment to the remote control to give it power.

The same thing applies to Insignias. You can’t compare Insignias in GW1 to Armor in GW2 and say they are the same, cause they are not. Insignias are used to enhance your armor in GW1. Just like Runes are used to enhance your armor in GW2. An Insignia is not armor on it’s own. It is an attachment to armor. Insignias are comparable to Runes in GW2, not Armor. So they are not the same thing.

And if you want to go title route, you can play GW1 all the way through without using a single title skill. And to top that off, you couldn’t even use those skills in PvP. So they didn’t provide you any special benefit in PvP and they were optional if you just wanted to play the game normally. You didn’t need title skills to complete anything (only farmers and speedclears required titles, which was the player’s fault, not Anet’s). You’re looking at an optional grind that wasn’t forced on you to complete content.

So sorry, but no. There was no vertical progression there either.

You’re comparing armor to insignias. Which is right away, completely wrong.

If anything, you should be comparing insignias to runes in GW2, cause that is what they are. Armor wise, GW1 didn’t go the vertical progression route. The armor is the same. Adding insignias is not comparable to vertical progression in GW2.

Vertical progression in GW2 is based on higher stat armor. No runes/gems/infusions and such. Just adding higher stats to armor. They didn’t do that in GW1. All armor was horizontal in GW1, cause they never added a higher stat armor to the game. GW1 has insignias to make your gear stronger, just like GW2 has runes/gems/infusions to make your gear stronger as well.

You’re trying to compare apples to oranges and it just doesn’t work.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-February-26-2013/first#post1548785

Last post tells you all you need to know.

schizandra.4587:

Yes, this kind of thing is why I laugh to myself when people say that Anet is just in this for the money. If they sold emotes and more armor/town skins in the gem store, my wallet might be in trouble. But they don’t take advantage of the gem store as much as they could.

You do realize that all those new fancy things require the gem store still right? New skins in the black lion chest? Gotta buy keys from the gem store. New dances in the box of fun? Gotta buy the boxes in the gem store.

But instead of being able to buy them outright, they make you gamble for them instead. Meaning you have to spend more money gambling, than you would if you could buy them straight up.

To me, that seems like they are in this for the money instead of the convenience. Otherwise, why make us gamble for something when they could sell it to us directly? More money, that’s why.