I’ve gotta say… GW2 has the most casual (and FAST) leveling of any MMO I’ve played in the last decade. If you find this “painful” you may want to find another genre entirely.
You do remember gw2 was advertised as “if you’ve never played an mmo this is the one for you.”
Many people here dislike other mmo’s for that exact reason. Things take too long to get to what people actually want to play.
That is an interesting question and distinction.
Is the original post about the process of leveling itself? Examples of better rewards for leveling? Speed (compared to)? Other?
Or…is this about leveling as a concept? Meaning, you want to come in Call of Duty on day one, gear up, and play ‘the end game’?
I’d like to skip leveling altogether. Chase gears/chase traits but forget the leveling.
Or make it shorter. This is my first mmo, and I find leveling to be quite dull, it’s just not what I’m after in this game.
ya just buy your way to lvl80 or dungeon switch alt like so many *. I honestly hope Anet would do something about people dungeon switching at the end of the run.
What is it with people wanting to change thing that dont affect them in the least?????
yBut I think majority of the people are just farmers, weather that is legendary, or farming eotm, or fractal skin farmers.
Honestly just look at what people is doing in eotm. If there is any confrontation, people either port back and walk the other way so they can continue their farm, there isn’t even much fighting.
Well if you put it that way, everything in the game outside of rp is farming. >.>
again, how does people doing this affect you?
(btw, I’m actually not all that interested in fractal skins/drops. I just like the idea of being able content that few do.)
I dont’ understand why the game suddenly become fun at lvl80.
Most of the people are just farming for whatever at lvl80 anyway. Which is exactly the samething people do before they are lvl80.
at max level, you work on permanent(ish) things like final build and equipment. Before, you don´t bother too much.
you mean like farming legendary? ya that’s exactly what I’m talking about.
I talked to my friend about this. Apparently he think I’m out of my mind for doing map completion or personal story. Because apparently that is more boring than farming cof path 1 1000 times.
No, more like attempting dungeons in solo or duo. Reaching level 50 frac, getting my craft to ascended, being able to play WvW without being so badly upscaled.
(I will not be going for a ledg. but I would like to kit out my alts in favourite style, which I wont bother with til they’re lv80).
Many people here dislike other mmo’s for that exact reason. Things take too long to get to what people actually want to play.
This illusion is very persistent, that it’s ok to do unfun repetitive chores for the promise of something fun later which then turns out to not be anymore fun either. It’s baffling how many players are dismissing like 90% of an MMOs content for some perceived reward that doesn’t exist in the first place.
Well tbf, what I enjoy most is lv 80 content. WvW, Dungeons and fractals.
I really can’t do these effectively without being level 80. So yeah leveling an alt sucks. It’s slow, and it’s boring because it’s not the content I want to do.
maybe you should ask the people who are giving out to you about it?
Personally I dislike it. But a freind of mine recently bought the arah paths,…. each to their own.
What I think though, is that maybe they should have a separate lfg tab. (if anet is going to allow it an all.)
It’s very annoying when you’re looking to pug the dungeon and all you see is group after group, selling the path. It makes it harder to see a legit group. A seperate tab may also lessen the hate as the only people who should click on it are ones who want to buy the path.
I’ve gotta say… GW2 has the most casual (and FAST) leveling of any MMO I’ve played in the last decade. If you find this “painful” you may want to find another genre entirely.
You do remember gw2 was advertised as “if you’ve never played an mmo this is the one for you.”
Many people here dislike other mmo’s for that exact reason. Things take too long to get to what people actually want to play.
I am currently leveling 2 alts via WvW/crafting. Leveling has always been boring to me, because what I want to do is level 80 content. The upscaling is even more useless now than before.
Idk why anyone outside of rp’ers would take their time to level, :/
Pvt Guardian running dungeons, fractals, and leads in some open-world raid content.
Condi necro running dungeons, soon to be running fractals, and would be leading the same open-world content if she had a commander tag.
People laugh and poke fun if I join dungeons with my necro, but by the end they have no choice but to admit they’re strong in dungeons.
If people only want to run dungeons with zerkers or XYZ class and build, they can kiss my green Sylvari kitten . When people demand a certain build regardless of how well you know the dungeon, they arent the kind of people I want to run a dungeon with. Asking someone to not be a particular build for good reason I dont mind. God knows a minion necro can be pretty useless in CoE.
I main a necro.
The most trouble I’ve had is from other people who play/have played necro’s… and wars who think only their class is useful >.>
But zerk is not class dependant. I run zerk or Knight gear on my necro depending. SO those asking for zerk builds only, are simply asking for you to have the highest dps your class can put out, many of them are ok with different class. Anyone who asks specifically for wars, doesn’t know much about the game I think.
However, have a party of guards, and they can take anything on.
Surely it wouldn’t have been too hard to leave existing Traits in place for existing characters? Having to work out what I had set up for each of my high level characters hasn’t made me a happy player. Even an in-game email reminding me what Traits each character had would have been helpful, and given that most/many (?) traits are the same, would it have been bad to leave them selected for pre-existing characters?
traits are the same? (idk what class you play, but most necro traits arent the same.)
How hard is it to read them over and go “yep, that’s what I was using/want to use”?
Out of all the complaints about this trait system, This is the least bothersome thing about it. >.>
why are you (or were you) doing ALL dailies then??
these dailies take longer and often push more people outside of what they’d normally do. choice is never bad. Lack of it hurts alot of people without much time and who only want to do 5 of the dailies,while also actually having fun.
I’d love to be able to save preset.
I frequently switch between “best performance” and then a best graphics/performance that works best for me. But it’s annoying to switch back as have to change a few the settings each time. \:
I actually enjoy the living story and prefer it over an expansion.
But maybe mostly because I still have so much (I want) to do in game, that an expansion would most likely make me quit.(would result in too much to do, no time to do it).
I certainly wouldnt be up to buying one for another year or 2, if ever.
I just report and block, and if it’s just annoying but not harrasing, I simply block.
You get people like that in all parts of the game. Had someone bring up what could be a touchy subject for people in a fractal party ytd, as an insult.
What I hope is anet looks at the reports as soon as possible and suspend or ban people as necessary.
There is no need to insult anyone. You’re just going to see more of it, when there’s more people around. Don’t engage, block&report the individual/s and move on. No need to hide the entire map chat
speak for yourself,
I quite enjoy the LS, (I missed most of it because of not really getting ‘into’ the mmo aspect wehn I first picked up the game. But I am really looked forward to LS, season 2!
I think the temporary content is great and I dont feel overwhelmed by the amount there is to do outside of it. While it’s not here, I can take a break if there’s nothing else I want to do.
What you dont seem to be taking into account, is permanent content is only better for a short while, once you’ve done it all, we’re back to square one. “needs new permanent content”. SO it really makes no difference if it’s temporary or not. (unless you only play for 1 or 2 months in the year …>.> )
I want to join Crucible of Eternity to get tokens for armor but won’t as I’m sure I’ll get kicked. I don’t know how CoE is an what to do. My survivability isn’t the best either.
Most of the LFG-groups is only looking for zerks, warriors, players with 5,000+ achievement points.
post an lfg saying “new”, it will take a little longer than 5 min to fill up, but there are many experienced players that are happy to play with people new to whatever and show the ropes.
Just make sure you’re willing to listen.
Been in the game since release and never have been in a dungeon. As a lvl 80 Ranger i’m just not wanted. Even with my zerker gear it makes no difference. I’ve just settled that this is part of the game i’ll never see.
lol, thats funny.
I’ve ran with many rangers in dungeons/fracs. They’re just fine to play with, just dont jpin a group looking for a certain class.
There are many lfg’s that simply say “lv80”, I often open as an “all welcome”. Though I wouldnt suggest doing that yourself as you coud get a group who dont have a clue about the dungeon.
There’s nothing stopping you setting an lfg then going to do whatever you want, why you wait for it to fill. Also, small guilds are great for dungeon grouping, you may want to look into one.
probably the same reason you have to do it every time you pick up a “local” weapon.(like the weapons at jormag).
I wish it just copied you current skill set. What I mean, if you have auto attack set, when you pick up a local weapon/shapeshift whatever, it would stay locked, because it would be that key, instead of that skill.
Please PLEASE make these bosses spawn more frequently.
Karka at 5pm (UK) is NOT peak time.Most people are still organising dinner and whatnot by the time Teq is on.
(also Karka dies WAY too fast after spawning. Her even is at 5, and she’s dead by 5.05. As much as I dilike the health buffs, thats too quick, for a boss that only spawns 3 times a day. Maybe switch her to the TBD times? Her difficulty is equal to that of fire ele or behe-though behe takes longer now).
Or if you dont want to change the times, Make it cheaper for guilds so that they can run them more often. _
wanted to add/ask.
Jormag seems to take longer than the schedule allows/accounts for.
Anyone else get the feeling that a worker mixed up karka and jormag? It really seems like (time wise) that it would fit better in the “hardcore” bosses. or am I the only one thinking this?
ok, but why dont asura/human/norn all have the same hairstyles?
Particularly norn and human.
I wouldnt mix sylvari at all with any other race. The char hairstyles shouldnt necessarily be limited to charr either(but I think head shape would probably cause issue here)
I think what he means is that, it seems a waste selling them for 4s, I’m also taking up bank soace with these rings, hoping and wishing that they make them salvageable for mist essence or something.
I would not pay 2000 gems for convenience. It’ll be ages before the cost of buying gathering tools comes higher than the cost of infinite tools and I have no problems buying a pick or an axe when I visit a merchant. Were they cheaper, I might, but at these prices? People surely have too much money on them (if you do, give me some).
I converted my gold, put ascended gear on the back burner and I am not ever going for ledg unless I win the bl chest rng XD.
I love the unlimited, I do wish they were cheaper so I could kit out all my alts with them but as it is, I’m happy to kit out my main with the tools I like. (the wasp axe; I love this one, the sickle is great so quick….I dont have a pick, yet. wanted the watchwork one, dislike the molten animation ): …..)
Are they good value? in gold? no.
In fun/looks? yes!
speed; can be.
convenient? for sure! (the only thing that would make them perfect would be if it was possible to set gathering tool slots across the account. so equip one char, they’d all be equip. that would be excellent. would pay geems just to make those slots account wide… XD)
the rings are common, everything else is far too low. I wouldnt mind if we could salvage the rings for vials of mist essence or globs or something….. those really really dont drop enough.
Interestingly English isn’t actually the official language (im defining official as de jure, i.e. in law) of the UK. There is only one de jure language in the UK and that’s in Wales and it’s Welsh.
I don’t understand how people can be confused at the use of the US flag to designate the English language. This is the case all over the internet. I could understand if you were new to the internet but chances are if you’re playing an MMO you’re not.
Its not confusion of what the language is. Its confusion of whether you are seeing the right groups. I dont expect to see US flags while playing on EU. Its as simple as that. And i cant imagine its hard for them to do a separate and more relevant flag for the different client.
Also from a personal opinion i find the US flag hideous and would rather not see it. xD
Tbh, i’d prefer a simple ‘Eng’ instead of a flag.
Btw, that’s how i see the union flag and st. george’s cross :p
This,
Why use flags at all. Not everyones knows what flag to associate with which country/language.
Just use “Eng”, “De”, “Fr” etc….. and leave the flags out of it.
Thanks for all the info. Still confused about a couple of things.
I have my own personal guild. Haven’t got it high enough to have storage but I haven’t been repping it because I thought …The 50 slots of storage you gain can only be used for storage of items that are not Account Bound or Soulbound ….how could I store any exotic armor that has been worn in that guild storage?
In regards to storage mules. A level 1 storage mule can receive stuff from my other characters…like worn exotic armor?
First you dont need to rep for long, 5g will buy you all the influence you need.
To your other questions, no and no, souldbound will have to be your bank alone.
But I’m sure you have crafting items etc in there and those can be passed on to storage mules
I think more, it shouldnt be specific to weapon type.
I’d like to carry to sets of daggers from necro, a WvW stat and PvE stat.
If its only locked to weapon type it wouldnt be any good. (who uses scepter on necro?)
(I’m not saying they should have enough slots for every stat or anything.)
But in the hero panel, where there’s wardrobe/dyes etc. Have another section “weapons” and allow people to store any weapons there, say up to 5 or 10 or (or heck make it 20 and make it account bound ). No need to add activating to them or whatever, just make it easy to swap weapons from that section, to what you’re already using.
Normally I could get the daily just playing whatever I want to play.
This wasnt the case yesterday. I don’t normally do events stuff much, unless I’m in wvw (and everything there is an ‘event’.). This took 2 pve dailies away from me.
I realised just before logged off, I hadn’t finished my daily and had to figure out what I was going to do to finish it. This left playing longer and doing something I really didnt want to do.(pvp: win or lose).
Is anets idea of the daily to make it harder to achieve?
I’ve also noticed it takes longer to finish. The last daily I could finish in an hour. This one, I seem to be stuck in game longer, and actually having to look at the dailies to pick one to complete.
This sucks anet.
More choice for dailies is a must. Stop trying to push people to other game modes. Which is all you’re doing with this.
People who want to play those game modes, will.
Or have trait unlock account based. So once your alt is appropriate level to get into the next level of traits they’d be unlocked as long as you get them unlocked on your main toon.
This would at least make the game alt friendly again.
They are doing their best at anet. I really do believe this, and I’ve never gotten an amazing drop either. Best would be a pet from trikey chest, now worth like… 6g.
Pre crafting would make more problems than it would solve. This is just sensible. Look how much prices have been going up only due to the skin update, and I don’t only mean the precursors. T6 going up, lodestones going up. They even changed champ bags to drop more T6, and prices are still going up. If anyone could get a precursor for less money/effort than it currently costs, the other things would spike way out of proportion.
I’m not saying I like the system as is. Just that it isn’t really fixable within the current game and changing it will take a long long time. They are starting with a gold nerf, which people aren’t really feeling yet. Probably take months before they can collect all the data, analyse it, and make their next move.
Well doesnt have to crafting, could be a series of quests, could be the 10k achieve chest. (and anyone already above that, just gets one in the mail.)
Things arent going to get cheaper by anet doing nothing about it.
plus, if they wanted crafting mats to drop in price, all they need to do is to increase their drop rate.
Increase drop rate + bring in pre crafting, and it would level out.
Suggestion 2:
Add a fourth color force to the WvW for non-participating observers. Call it the white force. They are present in the WvW areas but cannot attack or be attacked by other players. This allows players to experience the area without being forced into “fight or flight” tactics.
Just my opinions.
That I could get behind!
Still sucks to have to map, 3 WvW maps, that are EXACTLY the same. But hey, at least we could avoid all the WvW shenanigans. We wouldn’t be able to aid or harm other WvW’ers.
Wish anet implemented something like this.
I think that the more people complain, the more likely anet is to bring in an alternative pre acquisition.
Also, I’d suggest to try NOT to buy, and just hold out, keep complaining, keep waiting, do not give in and buy.
Anets idea of controlling the pre/ledg costs is to let them go up and up. They’ve gotten to a ridiculous price.
I myself have better things to spend my gold(or cash) on. And I don’t think I’d ever be happy with spending 700g + on a pre/ledg. It just isnt worth it to me.
Which is ashame, I’d really like to have stat swapping ability. (the skins don’t appeal to me, they’re too flashy.)
My gripe is that these low level zone boss’s don’t seem to be designed for the level range they are in.
I noticed this with the Shadow Behemoth. This is a level 1-17 zone. I was there with my level 30 Engineer. It took 14 minutes to kill it and I was there from the beginning, putting all my firepower in to it.
I didn’t do enough damage to get a chest. That’s ****** up!
The real problem here is that downscaling lv80s needs major adjustment. With a good look at how it downscales gear.
you don’t know necro at all.
We have some of the best dps/tankiness of all the classes.
Can also have weakness on enemy 100% of the time. (which is very useful and bringing down a boss quicker).
Agreed, condition necro has little place in pve, but powernecro handles excellently
The issue I have with the megaserver is that they haven’t been warning us when each of the zones are converted. The last update I found was from 5 days ago and there have been zones put on the megaserver since then. A heads up would have been nice.
I agree, but if you want to check, open lfg tool, and in open world content. if it says map (…) you’re in megaserver.
). No need to add activating to them or whatever, just make it easy to swap weapons from that section, to what you’re already using.