Guild Wars 2

FinalPatriot.8034:

Just a random thought but wouldn’t an unload build like this be pretty darn nasty with perplexity runes? Not sure how well this would work with a condition set instead of a the normal damage version.

Oh, and are you using THIS BUILD?

Hey, I recognize that build!

And yes, an unload build could work with perplexity runes. ANY build is nasty with perplexity runes because that entire rune set is hilariously broken.

Who’s my VLK quaggan pal in Henge of Denravi’s GoM’s Bay and Vale camp?
Message me in-game for personalized yo mama jokes!

Arius.7031:

ptitminou.6489:

Solstice.1097:

problem is when people ask themselves if they did the best they could, they often incorrectly answer “yes” because they aren’t aware of what more they could do.

if they were aware, they would have done it.

if you’re not recruiting, you could be doing more. if you’re not helping train and encourage the less-experienced, you could be doing more. if you’re not promoting voice comms or on it yourself, you could be doing more.

the list goes on and on.

So i think the #1 question to ask yourself is: did you have fun?

We’ve got a recruitment thread up, clearly stating our number needs, guilds involved with WvW, the fact SF is the only server with mounts (note: mounts not included), etc.

We have a group of aussies recruiting too. Its not by lack of trying. By default the “Sorrow’s” is negative and uninteresting. Then there is the prohibitive transfer costs of 130g/22$ per person. Then there is the guesting and seeing how terrible SF is at PvE which discourages many PvX players interested in becoming 300% hotter. Then they hear about some guilds not being in TS. The reasons why it is not working are known.

At this point, I think a lot of the bronze servers can only be fixed by merging WvW populations, ie: everyone knows DH can only win by nightcapping, so they’d be a good match for SF. FC and DR would be a great match too since they are stuck up on using SoR tactics, which requires numbers to be effective. AR, KN and GoM would also be a good match giving them great coverage since KN is another nightcapping server.

Darkhaven’s Furnace
Ferguson And Devona (they could even story line this for that boring living world thing they do)
Gates near Kaineng’s Anvil

That way, all those who have any sort of warrantless attachment to the server cluster’s public name on which the character data they are using is stored on would be satisfied and we could have a more interesting league instead of just a few close matches here and there.

Darkhaven can only win by nightcapping? Excuse me lol? We have the third strongest primetime in bronze without question… We’re no SF, but come on… Ugh.

lol wat

Logi.5612:

Not to highjack the attention, you’re great Jon but gotta give some mad credit to Stal for tanking all that crap, without him you wouldn’t have these clips

Next Mugi video needs a Scarlet pop-up with the Kanye interrupt speech to talk about how good Stalagta is.

Righteous.4307:

I wouldn’t be surprised if at some point Anet decides to merge all PvE (except maybe Lions Arch) into maps no longer affiliated with specific servers. WvW and Lions Arch (maybe racial starter cities) would remain affiliated with specific servers.

Some merging server shakeup would be interesting to see. I would hope that after the seasons end Anet would create a sliding cost-scale where Anet judges the participation in WvW (rather than the total number on a server). The most populated WvW servers would cost a significant amount to transfer to and the least populated WvW servers would be free.

No merging actually needs to occur to get balanced scoring.
http://youtu.be/qHcO6Xo8eJ8

Pretty much what Necrotize said. Poison to cut his heals. Blinds to stop his attacks. Avoid using Dancing Dagger unless you absolutely have to because the cripple effect will trigger the regen boon for him since he’s most likely using the Dogged March trait. Use Death Blossom against his telegraphed skills for free evade plus bleeds. Keep your regular dodge rolls for emergencies or if you need to recharge your initiative.

If he doesn’t have sword or greatsword on his weapon swap, you can kite him freely. Use less stealth except for an occasional backstab and just concentrate on wearing him down since you can control the tempo of the fight. If he DOES have sword or greatsword and is pretty mobile, use stealth more frequently but mix things up to keep him guessing if you’re going for a backstab or just running around invisible. Basically, mind games vs mobile opponent, kiting vs slow opponent. Always keep up constant pressure on either, though.

And Necrotize hit the biggest point: don’t use the axe whirl stolen ability. Steal can still be used as a good source of poison, but be sure to unload the stolen ability at a safe distance because you’re pretty much a sitting duck while it’s active.

Amarinth.2384:

melodyca.8921:

Hope HOD and SF like playing with eachother because GOM is pretty much done for the week. This match completely sucks and nobody wants to play. Will be glad when it ends. And to the SF who danced on my body…show some class. You are winning. Oh and that 70 man zerg that pummeled my group….Did it make you feel better???? Was that really neccessary? All that Bravado. There will come a time when you are in GOMs shoes and be a low population server try to remember that.

And honestly, GoM is pretty bad about corpse-dancing, corpse-jumping and laughing and crying when they kill -US-. But oh well. If that offends you, maybe you need a thicker skin.

Don’t get too caught up if you see emotes fill up your chat log. Here at GoM, we often /sit spam our own fallen allies. Unless, of course, our fallen comrade is a ranger. Then we buy candy corn and puke on him because he should know better than to bring a ranger into WvW.

GrahamW.5397:

If you want to fight me you know where ill be so come to gombl around daily reset ill be there working on my achieves and roaming as i am everynight. Ill have the guild tag [HOT] on so you know what to look for. I have some high expectations for you from all the talk your doing, so hopefully you dont dissapoint i do love a good challenge. Oh and if you cant find me after a while feel free to whisper me and ill let you know where i am.

How late do you usually play? The roaming has been absolute rubbish during the times I’ve been online and I’ve had to resort to joke builds just to keep entertained. It’d be great to know where you guys are stashing your roamers at.

Maugetarr.6823:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

I think I’m probably the only person in the game who’s actually happy with the P/P weaponset. My damage is good, initiative is manageable and sustainable without being forced to trait into it (even moreso with the upcoming patch), and my weaknesses can easily be coverable by utility choice and proper play.

In a perfect world, I could go for a bit more attack speed on the auto-attack. Maybe give Unload a passive generosity effect to keep up with the condi meta since thief cleanse options are complete garbage unless you’ve got a sword or Shadow’s Embrace. Even still, it would be a fine line between a simple buff and downright OP.

After you being able to kill people using fireworks, is P/P really fine or are you carrying the set with your gameplay? To clarify what I mean, you killed people without using weapons (here is not the place to discuss perplexity though) so virtually any attack would be a vast improvement over no weapons.

I’d like to think that player ability SHOULD carry a weaponset, not the other way around.

As it stands, P/P has good damage, a daze, an immobilize, and a fantastic blind/smoke field. The downside to all that flexibility is that you have to make decisions and sacrifices on the fly to get the most out of the set and can be easily punished if you make a mistake or countered if you fall into predictable patterns. In my opinion, that’s balanced. In fact, it might just be one of the ONLY balanced weaponsets in the entire game, but that’s a separate argument completely. :P

I feel that if a player like me can get by fine using the set, any buff that brings it more inline with the easier-to-use kits will just make it ridiculously powerful in the hands of the truly good players.

I think I’m probably the only person in the game who’s actually happy with the P/P weaponset. My damage is good, initiative is manageable and sustainable without being forced to trait into it (even moreso with the upcoming patch), and my weaknesses can easily be coverable by utility choice and proper play.

In a perfect world, I could go for a bit more attack speed on the auto-attack. Maybe give Unload a passive generosity effect to keep up with the condi meta since thief cleanse options are complete garbage unless you’ve got a sword or Shadow’s Embrace. Even still, it would be a fine line between a simple buff and downright OP.

Zhentilar.5967:

Man I love all this Smack Talk going on. I am actually surprised to see how competitive Bronze league is. Keep it up guys.

Dropping from Gold to Silver league myself. I have noticed that the lower ranked worlds seem to rely more on siege than open field combat. We generally expect to take on twice our number on the open field to pull out a win, in some cases three times if we catch them correctly.

As pointed out earlier you will probably find MU is a little more organized than other guilds at this level. They have had time to refine their tactics open field, training new recruits shouldn’t be a problem. Run this build, drop this when we call for it, and stay on the target at all times.

Not kittence you have done this for a week.

Part of the reason you see less open-field warfare is because there’s not really enough people to perpetuate it at this level. Sure, you might seen an occasional 20vs20 or more clash. But with bronze league populations, any time you have 20-30 from your server congregated into one spot, you’re likely severely undermanned elsewhere. It’s much more effective to show you have a zerg around to keep your opponents honest, then quietly sneak that zerg onto a different map while leaving behind a small group and tons of defensive siege to hold out until the main force can be summoned again for a surprise push out.

When [Agg] took a vacation to the lower tiers, we tried banging heads with them at first just because we weren’t used to the zergball meta. Even when we could manage to hold them off, it simply freed up the smaller groups from their server to take objectives elsewhere. So instead we opted to use containment and diversion tactics to render them largely ineffective and focus our main efforts elsewhere. I don’t think they liked guerrilla warfare very much. :/

King Amadaeus.8619:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

King Amadaeus.8619:

JamboHammer.4397:

King Amadaeus.8619:

JamboHammer.4397:

King Amadaeus.8619:

JamboHammer.4397:

gz to the CoSa baddy that can kill my full zerk shatter mes while useing broken cheese perplexity runes i bet u feel so good when u wanna duel my war or thief let me know cuz ill crush ur little cheese runes.

Gratz on getting trolled hard enough to come here and let the world know of your thin skin.

lmfaoo i came here to point out how baddy players useing perplexity runes actually think they have any skill watsoever and need to laugh spam when they finally get a kill and i enjoyed very much laugh spamming on his little cheese war with my warrior, and the fact that u jumped on my d as soon as u saw this post probably shows u run cheese runes to get kills also. sadly once i changed to my thief after beating him with my war i could not find him anywhere i was roaming all around eb looking for him but i guess he rage quit when he lost to my warrior

Your post makes little sense other than you screaming about rage changing to 3 different toons? (“full zerk shatter mes”, war, and thief)

Lets see if we can recreate the scenario:

1. You being bad running full zerk and expecting other people not to exploit that fact.
2. Other person winning, /laugh /laugh /laugh
3. And you do what now?

first off baddy mesmers are one of the weakest classes against condi and hes running perplexity stun spam against a zerker mes, and 2 yes i swapped cahrs to sit his cheese kitten runes down cuz both my other classes laugh at condi dmg and i want to see utake on a perplexity condi class as a zerker mes calling me bad LOL ur so funny and the fact that ur saying hes exploiting a zerker mes hes useing broken runes that need to be fixed and he thinks hes good by chest thumping if u wanna duel me let me know cuz ill take u down like i did to that cheese warrior

I love perplex peoples when I am running my mesmer, perhaps you should ask around about my mesmer sir before you assume I know nothing about them. Bad mesmers are weak, bad anything is weak?

The key to beating perplex is understanding what is going on before you spam your self to death trying to be a shatter bot. I usually just let them get a ridiculous amount of confusion on me (10 stacks or more hopefully), give it back to them, and burst them down while they’re trying to figure out what is killing them and why I do not have any confusion on me.

I don’t have a problem with people running the runes solo, but if you have ever come across organized small-man groups that know how to keep 25 stacks on you then you are out of luck and that is the problem I have with them. I encourage people to 1v1 me with them on.

Bro, do you even fireworks?

Uwot? Do you even lift mate?

Lift? I carry teams, not weights.

King Amadaeus.8619:

JamboHammer.4397:

King Amadaeus.8619:

JamboHammer.4397:

King Amadaeus.8619:

JamboHammer.4397:

gz to the CoSa baddy that can kill my full zerk shatter mes while useing broken cheese perplexity runes i bet u feel so good when u wanna duel my war or thief let me know cuz ill crush ur little cheese runes.

Gratz on getting trolled hard enough to come here and let the world know of your thin skin.

lmfaoo i came here to point out how baddy players useing perplexity runes actually think they have any skill watsoever and need to laugh spam when they finally get a kill and i enjoyed very much laugh spamming on his little cheese war with my warrior, and the fact that u jumped on my d as soon as u saw this post probably shows u run cheese runes to get kills also. sadly once i changed to my thief after beating him with my war i could not find him anywhere i was roaming all around eb looking for him but i guess he rage quit when he lost to my warrior

Your post makes little sense other than you screaming about rage changing to 3 different toons? (“full zerk shatter mes”, war, and thief)

Lets see if we can recreate the scenario:

1. You being bad running full zerk and expecting other people not to exploit that fact.
2. Other person winning, /laugh /laugh /laugh
3. And you do what now?

first off baddy mesmers are one of the weakest classes against condi and hes running perplexity stun spam against a zerker mes, and 2 yes i swapped cahrs to sit his cheese kitten runes down cuz both my other classes laugh at condi dmg and i want to see utake on a perplexity condi class as a zerker mes calling me bad LOL ur so funny and the fact that ur saying hes exploiting a zerker mes hes useing broken runes that need to be fixed and he thinks hes good by chest thumping if u wanna duel me let me know cuz ill take u down like i did to that cheese warrior

I love perplex peoples when I am running my mesmer, perhaps you should ask around about my mesmer sir before you assume I know nothing about them. Bad mesmers are weak, bad anything is weak?

The key to beating perplex is understanding what is going on before you spam your self to death trying to be a shatter bot. I usually just let them get a ridiculous amount of confusion on me (10 stacks or more hopefully), give it back to them, and burst them down while they’re trying to figure out what is killing them and why I do not have any confusion on me.

I don’t have a problem with people running the runes solo, but if you have ever come across organized small-man groups that know how to keep 25 stacks on you then you are out of luck and that is the problem I have with them. I encourage people to 1v1 me with them on.

Bro, do you even fireworks?

This is dedicated to my VLK pals
http://youtu.be/Bdt9Piq5s0g

clint.5681:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Mercabre.7123:

styx.7294:

Look, I understand, Henge of Denravi wants to feel kitten but I am going to give you tough love. It’s ’cause I care.

“Slowed down?” More like tucked tail and hid under the rug. NSP tried to do the same but got called out on it, and their roaming guilds that don’t normally care about PPT actually rose up to carry their server to silver. I still like my pals on HoD and SF, but as whole servers, you’re still a bunch of cowards for tanking to dodge silver league.

Ahh we never had a chance at silver, we were rank 20 before the leagues started and hadn’t been above rank 18 since august. Not sure why you threw our name in there. Complaining about HoD not going to silver will get you nowhere anyway since only a set number of servers could be in silver at one time. So either you would have got NSP or IOJ or HoD but you would have been complaining either way.

My apologies, there were three servers accused of tanking at the time and I think I got SF mixed up with KN (who ended up just being hit with massive population drops instead of actually tanking).

Either way, I’m definitely not complaining. Most of our matches will be against tougher opponents anyways and I much prefer that than roflstomping servers below us. I do, however, question the testicular fortitude of players who would rather dip than play. Why play a game if there’s no challenge to it? To each their own, I guess. I can’t see any fun in buying a game, then immediately setting it to Easy and feeling good about succeeding at it.

Mercabre.7123:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Mercabre.7123:

styx.7294:

Look, I understand, Henge of Denravi wants to feel kitten but I am going to give you tough love. It’s ’cause I care.

Henge of Denravi wins no fights. They haven’t won a fight in 5 weeks. To win fights, you have to be at fights. A week before leagues, Henge of Denravi heard there might be fights and ran away and hid so that there would be no chance of fights for 7 weeks.

So there can’t be posts about Henge of Denravi bravado, ’cause WvW is about fights you guys made sure to avoid fights for all of the league.

Maybe after this league you will come out stronger and that would be nice to see but for now when tested did you show unyielding courage? No. Unrelenting bloodlust? No. Willingness to stack the odds so high as to show your quality? No. =(

And don’t forget that all three servers that were on the brink of moving up to silver league “slowed down” the week or two prior to leagues. This is not an isolated case of “HoD is tanking they are kitten” because everyone did it that had a chance of moving up but in the end it was NSP that moved up (and probably rightly so). It’s not a question of the server but of human nature.

“Slowed down?” More like tucked tail and hid under the rug. NSP tried to do the same but got called out on it, and their roaming guilds that don’t normally care about PPT actually rose up to carry their server to silver. I still like my pals on HoD and SF, but as whole servers, you’re still a bunch of cowards for tanking to dodge silver league.

Call it whatever you want. Slowed down, tanked, whatever, but every server that was about to move up did it. It’s not our servers, it’s human nature. Don’t act like your server would do anything different in the same situation because they wouldn’t. Even if your personal position would be to move up (I was of the same opinion in terms of HoD) would the rest of your server feel the same way?

I’m not doubting that we don’t have our fair share of players that would consider it, but I can say with absolute certainty that GoM would never tank a match on purpose, simply because the leadership of our largest WvW guilds (the ones that can most affect a scoring rise or drop) are way too gung ho to even consider the idea of tanking. It would be a different story if more passive people were in charge (like in the case of NSP and [Os]), but a vast majority of our commanders are downright nuts.

Mercabre.7123:

styx.7294:

Look, I understand, Henge of Denravi wants to feel kitten but I am going to give you tough love. It’s ’cause I care.

Henge of Denravi wins no fights. They haven’t won a fight in 5 weeks. To win fights, you have to be at fights. A week before leagues, Henge of Denravi heard there might be fights and ran away and hid so that there would be no chance of fights for 7 weeks.

So there can’t be posts about Henge of Denravi bravado, ’cause WvW is about fights you guys made sure to avoid fights for all of the league.

Maybe after this league you will come out stronger and that would be nice to see but for now when tested did you show unyielding courage? No. Unrelenting bloodlust? No. Willingness to stack the odds so high as to show your quality? No. =(

And don’t forget that all three servers that were on the brink of moving up to silver league “slowed down” the week or two prior to leagues. This is not an isolated case of “HoD is tanking they are kitten” because everyone did it that had a chance of moving up but in the end it was NSP that moved up (and probably rightly so). It’s not a question of the server but of human nature.

“Slowed down?” More like tucked tail and hid under the rug. NSP tried to do the same but got called out on it, and their roaming guilds that don’t normally care about PPT actually rose up to carry their server to silver. I still like my pals on HoD and SF, but as whole servers, you’re still a bunch of cowards for tanking to dodge silver league.

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

SF has been outnumbered in 90% of every fight I’ve been in.

Screens or it didn’t happen! All kidding aside, I highly doubt that you have been outnumbered 10% of the time. Our 20 -30 man groups just outplay your 20-30-40+man groups.

That’s whats really going on.

I’m SF, which means I have been outnumbered 90% of the time. I used to be a roamer, but hod has such HUGE numbers on all bls and eb I’m zerging up now..

I guess my statement was above your comprehension level.

I will simplify it, Write it in Crayon

1. If you’re roaming you shouldn’t run into 20+ man groups

2. If you’re SF and in a group their is no way in hell that you have been outnumbered at anytime, Well maybe about 10% of the time.

3. SF clearly outnumbers HOD number wise, skill wise that may vary

Any server in Bronze that’s faced us both, will tell you SF has more numbers than HODin WvW.

From the GoM side of the fence, SF AND HoD are walking zergfests. Both of your mamas are so fat that they fell in love and it broke. o_O

JahRo.6432:

I’m really digging this matchup. We’re getting a run for our money from both sides and it’s SO refreshing to be able to have a nail-biter like this! We’re actually having to work for our points and I think it’s good for all servers to see what we’re really made of. Good luck this week to both GoM and SF, and lets keep the mama jokes rollin’!

Speaking of rolling…
HoD’s mama so fat I had to roll over twice just to get off of her.

madchatter.7964:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

clint.5681:

Only reason threads get closed is because they are full of tears from the losing sides. Since this should be a competitive match up and HoD and GoM seems to have some cool cats on their forum crew i doubt that will happen.

I also wish i could set up a betting system but idk if thats against Anets rules or not.

Would you settle for a polling system? :P
http://strawpoll.me/673580

I want to lodge a complaint. This seems to only let you vote once per IP. Since there are two of us one the same IP, I do not get a vote.

I DEMAND A RECOUNT!!!

:P

Halp! HoD is zerging our strawpoll!

Fighting Siegerazer is so boring. Stop making me try to PvE! >:/

HoD’s mama so fat, she jumped in the air and got stuck.

Here is the poll to vote for who you think will win the matchup:
http://strawpoll.me/673580

Avatar of Belle.9623:

I looked at the poll and realized it would end up being a popularity contest.

See above posts.

clint.5681:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

clint.5681:

Only reason threads get closed is because they are full of tears from the losing sides. Since this should be a competitive match up and HoD and GoM seems to have some cool cats on their forum crew i doubt that will happen.

I also wish i could set up a betting system but idk if thats against Anets rules or not.

Would you settle for a polling system? :P
http://strawpoll.me/673580

I guess it will have to do

Excellent. Vote #3 for great justice.

clint.5681:

Only reason threads get closed is because they are full of tears from the losing sides. Since this should be a competitive match up and HoD and GoM seems to have some cool cats on their forum crew i doubt that will happen.

I also wish i could set up a betting system but idk if thats against Anets rules or not.

Would you settle for a polling system? :P
http://strawpoll.me/673580

styx.7294:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Avatar of Belle.9623:

titanlectro.5029:

Jeknar.6184:

This “ress-through-gate” thing, been already exploited for ages and I find it silly that it still around when many other exploits like the wall climbing have been fixed already… They could simply put another stupid gate behind that one and the problem would be solved. And no, I don’t belive that such a broken mechanic is “working as intented”.

So since Anet didn’t fix something, it must not be broken. Great logic there.

Let me just kick you from my party in WvW…

Jeknar is saying the mechanic should be fixed…. Maybe have some morning coffee?

Are you offering free coffee??

Tea, earl grey, hot.

Hot coffee, cold tea. Doing it backwards is just plain blasphemy.

Tossed Fish.7380:

kitten it GoM! You’re screwing up my predictions.

We’re helpers!
See you Friday

Bllade.1029:

The next match-up between SF/HoD/GoM is going to decide who takes first.

And GoM, you get to choose who you dislike more. :P

YOU HAVE THE POWER!

I hate you both equally, but I love money. Let’s talk business.

leviN.4390:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

leviN.4390:

GoM, how many friggin mesmers do you have?

If you are the bunch of guys that held hills over the weekend, and vsing a guardian from (BoM) and a warrior (IoM). We had a nice fight vsing 3 mesmers, 1 guardian(KIA), 1 ele(KIA) before we were taken down by more people :P

I got something like 22 levels yesterday on my mesmer during the Extra Life marathon (finally dinged 80 at around 3 AM). If you saw a blue-haired norn chick wearing Mardi Gras colors, then you’ve met Party Bus Swaggins.

Although you are GoM, have a +1 for your effort for a charity, i didn’t see your blue haired norn chick since i play on crap settings. Hope you raised some great funds for your time

Thanks, man. It was my first time participating and I’m still pretty new at the streaming thing, so my day could best be summed up as a dizzying blur of energy drinks, cheap beer, and technical difficulties. xD But it was an absolute blast and I can’t wait to do it again.

The event as a whole was a giant success. Over $3.8 million raised so far, plus whatever gets added during this weekend’s make-up event for those that couldn’t participate on Nov. 2nd.

I much prefer having an initiative pool than cooldowns. Sure, you have to be careful with your resource management, but it’s a small price to pay in order to have any of your moves ready at all times for any situation that gets thrown at you.

Thieves are pretty much the Jackie Chan of GW2.

Advent.6193:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

As a P/P thief main, I welcome these changes.

Adapt.

You know me, bro – another Gunslinger. Here’s the problem, however:

• There’re only so many times that major class Traits or functions can be “shaved” down, and one can adapt to it. I’m sure we both can agree that certain of those changes limit Thief mobility in general, which definitely hurts a Gunslinger spec. Init regen rates, I’ll need to faff about with – they might even out in the end. HtC, I just think needs a bit of extra something added; if not control over its path, then mayhap some condi-clear.
  (It’s honestly past time that SA was no longer the “major” condi-clear method … that honestly makes no sense, if one’s supposed to be able to run stealth or evade, as they see fit. /shrug)

Although, I could merely be biased, considering that I pretty much mainline Mesmer/Thief, then Elementalist – all of whom have definitely had their ups and downs.

I think you should wait and get a feel for the changes first. The ini changes may actually be comparable to what we run now except now we’ll have free trait points to spend elsewhere. And as for the vigor nerf, I already see a way around that.

Colt.9051:

clint.5681:

Jeknar.6184:

clint.5681:

Sometimes i paint myself orange and lie in the grass and pretend im a carrot.

What if someone come with a sickle and cut you-know-what out?

Im a rolling carrot, i can roll at up to speeds of 60 carrots per hour

Where’s HoD’s [VLK] Jack o’ Lope herd when u need em…?

Probably busy dodging silver league.

As a P/P thief main, I welcome these changes.

Adapt.

Spike.1526:

Ok i now hesitate between those two Builds (WvW and PVE)

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.3|a.5g.h17.a.5g.h19.d13.0.d13|5.5c.h4.d13.0.0|1n.71j.1n.71j.1n.71j.1n.71j.1n.71j.1n.71j|4s.d1g.2s.d12.3s.d1e.2s.d12.3s.d1e.2s.d12|0.u56b.0.k49.k3a|54.1|59.5g.5c.5e.5v|e

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.3|a.5g.h17.a.5g.h19.d13.0.d13|5.5c.h4.d13.0.0|1n.71j.1n.71j.1n.71j.1n.71j.1n.71j.1n.71j|4s.d1g.2s.d12.3s.d1e.2s.d12.3s.d1e.2s.d12|a3.u56b.0.u49a.0|54.1|59.5g.5c.5e.5v|e

Your build choices should reflect your style of gameplay. If you run with a group and are good at positioning, an ini-regen/ricochet build with knight’s gear and on-swap sigils would be good option. If you’re more solo-oriented, I’d focus more on damage, escapes, and cleanses (Pain Response is almost a necessity for that type of play).

I’m not a fan of divinity/celestial stuff. I prefer building towards maximizing your strong points and using utilities/sigils/runes to cover your weaknesses. The better you are at using terrain, dodging, and moving around during a fight, the glassier you can build. I run JUST enough toughness to survive getting hit by a backstab combo. Everything else is pure offense. It works for me because I’m a very twitchy, reflexive player by nature who loves being in the thick of a fight and dodging around like crazy. But it’s not a style I would recommend to others just starting out as a P/P thief. Play it safe at first until you figure out your strengths/weaknesses, then build accordingly.

babazhook.6805:

Now others can correct me if I am wrong but it my understanding that weapon sigils that proc on crit all share the same ICD. Your sigil of Generosity has a 10 second ICD meaning that sigil of fire will not proc in that 10 second cooldown after a crit.

When that cooldown does runs its course , the odds of getting another sigil of Generosity to proc are higher again thus that fire sigil will rarely go off. You might be better off with force on that second sigil damage wise.

It also my understanding that sigil of Generosity will proc on crit even if you have no conditions on you.

I note you have fire in mainhand and generosity in the off hand so in theory my understanding is the one in main will proc first. It much harder to do that math but that should allow more fire to rpoc but will cut down on overall generosity.

All of this info SHOULD be correct, but from my experience, fire procs quite regularly even if using generosity main hand. I’m not sure if it’s a bug or not, but that’s what I’ve been running for a quite a long time.

leviN.4390:

GoM, how many friggin mesmers do you have?

If you are the bunch of guys that held hills over the weekend, and vsing a guardian from (BoM) and a warrior (IoM). We had a nice fight vsing 3 mesmers, 1 guardian(KIA), 1 ele(KIA) before we were taken down by more people :P

I got something like 22 levels yesterday on my mesmer during the Extra Life marathon (finally dinged 80 at around 3 AM). If you saw a blue-haired norn chick wearing Mardi Gras colors, then you’ve met Party Bus Swaggins.

Two of us on GoM are participating in the Extra Life 25-Hour Gaming Marathon charity event this year. We kicked off at around 8 AM this morning and are playing non-stop until 8 AM tomorrow morning (plus the extra hour for the time change) to raise money for Children’s Miracle Network hospitals. I’m playing mostly GW2 (gotta get my mesmer to 80), plus some SMITE and a little bit of Divekick.

If you want to tune in and keep us company (and help us stay awake for the whole marathon!), check us out at:
www.twitch.tv/BanditoTV and www.twitch.tv/Tempestbrewer

If anybody else is participating in Extra Life, please post your info too!

Playing aggressive doesn’t mean to stop playing defense completely. Hell, we held Fort Raven Hold on FC’s borderland for over an hour last night with just four people and no walls/gates or even supply. It just means that trying to turtle up when getting focused isn’t really the best tactic at this level, in my opinion. Most of the bronze league servers have to sacrifice a good bit of their potential defenders to make large pushes, so having zergs from both FC and DH in our borderlands meant there were many soft targets elsewhere. If we don’t have the numbers to defend, we should at least be keeping pace by taking what we can.

TogoChubb.3984:

El Taquito…..you should have brought moooaaarrrrr fireworks to the party! It’s all your fault that fallyse stole your stash and you were left with only weapons to fight with.

Good luck to all for the rest of this matchup…it’s a nail biter and i’m not even playing in it.

I left my fireworks and thief on the shelf this week. All that free xp and loot bags disguised as DH players was simply too irresistible for my lowbie mesmer to pass up on.

melodey.4652:

I would agree with that assessment overall except from what I saw last night was a similar DH presence in both FC and GoM, but the FCers (including our group) couldn’t get a foothold due to FC’s better defense. Hence why it appears as if we were hitting GoM really hard when in reality, our efforts on the FC map just weren’t as fruitful.

We didn’t have any trouble taking things away from FC. It’s only once we pulled back our assault and started taking a more passive approach that they were able to get things fortified. Which, once again, created a funnel towards us since DH’s offense was already stalling in FC’s map before anything was fortified.

At this level of play, no one really has the numbers or the coverage to adequately defend anything other than during prime time.

I think our biggest mistake on GoM this week was not being more aggressive. Neither FC or DH could really breach anything on their own until both servers hit at the same time. At that point, we should’ve moved elsewhere and let them fight each other over the table scraps. Our offense did a top-notch job this week, as shown by our early-week lead, and counter-punching directly in response to the double-team would’ve left both FC and DH with the difficult decision to hang on to the hotly contested temporary holdings in GoM-BL or return home and stop the bleeding.

Instead, we chose to ease off the pedal and got tunnel-visioned over a strip of land that happened to be labeled GoM this week. We basically invited the double-team upon ourselves by not keeping pressure up where it counted, and that allowed FC and DH to both over-extend at minimal risk.

Bronze league will be won by offense and aggression, not defense and upgrades. There simply aren’t enough players around to play passive.

melodey.4652:

styx.7294:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Solstice.1097:

Victoitor.2917:

HoD player here. Looked at mos.millenium score and envied your fight. Came to post about it.

meh its just gom and DH focusing us. something I wish servers would do more often but it sucks to be on the receiving end.

It’s my birthday weekend. GW2 can wait!

Not gonna lie, visions of 1st place swimming in our heads!

Happy birthday Taquito, GoM is in first! I will give you a warm celebratory smack on the head with my weapons as a gift next time I see you <3

Also it’s totally my bday tomorrow cough so DH can be first next, Y/Y?

October birthdays are the best birthdays. Candy AND presents!

Solstice.1097:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

madchatter.7964:

Solstice.1097:

Victoitor.2917:

HoD player here. Looked at mos.millenium score and envied your fight. Came to post about it.

meh its just gom and DH focusing us. something I wish servers would do more often but it sucks to be on the receiving end.

o.O Last night, we kept hopping back and forth between bay and hills because we had a zerg from each server on our map… in this close of a matchup, I’d say all three servers will feel focused.

I’m going to back that up with SCIENCE and squiggly lines. Every possible combination of a double-team has already happened with each server taking turns being the victim. FC seems to have gotten hit really bad on that last one, though.

This morning is Gom’s turn. Fun being in 1st place yea? 10 PPT ouch

So, that means it’s DH’s turn next, right?

madchatter.7964:

Solstice.1097:

Victoitor.2917:

HoD player here. Looked at mos.millenium score and envied your fight. Came to post about it.

meh its just gom and DH focusing us. something I wish servers would do more often but it sucks to be on the receiving end.

o.O Last night, we kept hopping back and forth between bay and hills because we had a zerg from each server on our map… in this close of a matchup, I’d say all three servers will feel focused.

I’m going to back that up with SCIENCE and squiggly lines. Every possible combination of a double-team has already happened with each server taking turns being the victim. FC seems to have gotten hit really bad on that last one, though.

Solstice.1097:

Victoitor.2917:

HoD player here. Looked at mos.millenium score and envied your fight. Came to post about it.

meh its just gom and DH focusing us. something I wish servers would do more often but it sucks to be on the receiving end.

It kinda comes with the territory of being in the lead. :P

Jesse.4631:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

From a fighting standpoint, I haven’t seen anything that would lead me to believe FC has suddenly gone beastmode and can carry an entire matchups by their pvp prowess alone. My lowbie mesmer is getting plenty of kills just fine against your crew.

In fact, the only two things that really stand out to me so far in this matchup is that 1) [Yarr] seems to have been recruiting, and 2) Mr. Mooby is always such a disappointment on the battlefield.

Nope we still have the same amount of members, but a lot of us are making alts lately (don’t know why)

Ah, ok. Out of the couple of clashes we had with Yarr over the weekend, I only recognized you and the female guardian during the fights. No sign of Ynot or the other usual suspects. You’ve definitely got more thieves than normal, though.

Always a blast fighting you guys.

Solstice.1097:

titanlectro.5029:

Solstice.1097:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Solstice.1097:

Fun Fact

The PPT in this match so far is dead-even.

FC – 57,925
DH – 57,970
GM – 57,665

It’s non-PPT points that is giving FC the lead

FC – 34,488
DH – 29,533
GM – 31,272

Guess we’re just killing more of you than you’re killing of us?? /shrug

Congrats on having those yaks and sentries on lockdown.

Pretty sure we just have a lot more kills from being targeted more often.

It is probably mostly yaks.

• Yaks are 3 points a piece.
• Sentries are 1 point a piece
• Spiking (not kills) grants at most 1 point per spike.

Edit: On second thought I’m not sure… It sure would be nice to have that data.

i dont think the difference in yak kills is huge among servers. also yaks are not 3 points the points vary depending on how many players killed it. this is to quote devon carver.

It was just an observation. I obviously didn’t play much this weekend, but from the limited time I did spend online, FC was running camp/sentry circuits like clockwork. Usually, they were preludes to a golem rush, but even when not followed by a “real” attack, you guys kept flipping those camps at regular intervals.

From a fighting standpoint, I haven’t seen anything that would lead me to believe FC has suddenly gone beastmode and can carry an entire matchups by their pvp prowess alone. My lowbie mesmer is getting plenty of kills just fine against your crew.

In fact, the only two things that really stand out to me so far in this matchup is that 1) [Yarr] seems to have been recruiting, and 2) Mr. Mooby is always such a disappointment on the battlefield.

Solstice.1097:

Fun Fact

The PPT in this match so far is dead-even.

FC – 57,925
DH – 57,970
GM – 57,665

It’s non-PPT points that is giving FC the lead

FC – 34,488
DH – 29,533
GM – 31,272

Guess we’re just killing more of you than you’re killing of us?? /shrug

Congrats on having those yaks and sentries on lockdown.

Advent.6193:

Right. We’re serving GoMnomberry Pie again … and no talk from their Gunslinger? I am disappoint.

It’s my birthday weekend. GW2 can wait!