Guild Wars 2

I would think that your last monthly reward would be the same as all the others. And yes, they specifically stated that they would keep the December monthly as there would be players in the middle of it, and they didn’t want to screw that up for them. So yea, you’ll get the laurels even after the 16th. But once January hits…..bye bye.

America.9437:

Teon.5168:

America.9437:

I logged in to do my dailies and one of them was to view a vista in ascalon. I lol’d and said ok. I had a character parked in Black Citadel and went to one of the easiest vistas in the city and in less than 10 secs had that one checked off my checklist. Ugh! Why!? Just…uh…why!?

So if the intent of the new dailies was to get me to experience new things and places, welp it failed. IT FAILED. A huge majority of players when faced with this item on their checklist will take the path of least resistance and always go to the easiest vista to check that item off their list. You’ve created a chore for the player base.

Here’s how you get people to experience new things and new places….CREATE NEW THINGS AND NEW PLACES! STOP ALTERING CONTENT AND PASSING IT OFF AS NEW CONTENT. Sometime I feel as if Anet is just rearranging the furniture and calling it a new living room.

NPE – rearranging & removing furniture. Trait Overhaul – rearranging furniture. Dailies – rearranging furniture. I think the player base is being trolled.

You’re seriously whining about something that took you all of 10 seconds to complete?

Wow, the game will probably die tomorrow because of this horrid change.

It’s certainly enough to rage-quit over.

/sarcasm off

You’re not understanding. The argument that the new dailies are trying to get us to experience new content doesn’t work. People will take the path of least resistance to check the daily task off their checklist and hence fall into another routine.

1) Find a waypoint that has easiest(least amount of time and effort) vista to view.
2) Waypoint
3) View (but not really because 99.999% of playerbase will escape out of the view.)

What in 1-3 above is gonna make me change my habit if all I want to do is check the kitten item off my daily checklist in the least amount of time possible.

I guarantee you a majority of the players will find the vistas that take the least amount of effort. So let me explain it so its not ambiguous to you. I’m not complaining that it takes 10 secs to do, I’m complaining that its poor game design.

Maybe I’m wrong, but after people have “viewed/but-not-really-viewed-like-the-game-designers-intended-us-to-view” the same vistas over and over and over and over and over and over, welp, I think some of us are gonna rage.

Then go ahead and rage. The rest of the players will be playing the game, shrugging at the 10-30 seconds it took to get 1 daily accomplished, think nothing of it, and move onto the next task, or whatever part of the game they feel like doing.

Btw, with the time it took for your last post, you could have taken care of the harvest or mining daily and now had 2 of your daily tasks done.

But then again, complaining about it is so much more fun, huh?

And yes, most of us players who have been playing the game for awhile will try and complete these tasks as quickly as possible. Others that are newer to the game?? Yea, it might actually get them to check out areas on the map they haven’t been to. And then again, maybe not. Probably all depends on the player.

But if you feel the need to rage about something so incredibly minor, knock yourself out. I never get obsessed with Anet’s specific language on what they want to accomplish with a certain part of the patch. Maybe they were talking about complete noobs, or newer players with that language that you seem to be so hung up on. /shrug

Me, I get a lot more aps and laurels with the new patch. I like it. I would avoid the daily crap before……now, I can do it in a lot less time with better rewards……it might be routine, but since it only takes 10 or so minutes, hardly any skin off my mouse hand…..it is now a routine that I don’t mind, because of the better rewards for less time involved.

When you play mmorpgs for awhile, they can’t help but have some ‘routine’ play in them, as the player has become so familiar with the game. I don’t mind routines, as long as they don’t seem like a job……10 minutes or so is absolutely no hassle, imo….so I will gladly do it for the decent end rewards. After that miniscule time spent on a daily routine……then I go wvw or work on alts or on the LS or, or, or…..whatever grabs my mood for the evening.

Jski.6180:

What dailies do ppl hate?

Apparently anything that might be slightly different than what they were used to with the old system.

Mileinnor.7125:

Jski, you can never have enough gold. This is Gold Sink Wars 2 man.

Most other mmorpgs I have played had the same sort of theme.

TheBlackLeech.9360:

Rentapest.6503:

I dislike them ONLY because there is no longer a laurel reward!

You literally get your laurels now “just for showing up” …

Do you people even look into the details of updates before you start complain about them?

…I really don’t understand.

And then he created another thread about it and ignored all the links that people offered up to explain. /smh

Mileinnor.7125:

Somewhat unrelated, but is there any reason to not pick the 20 laurels on the 28th day? The other options seems very lackluster and 20 laurels can be exchanged for about 30g in T6 mats. The closest option is to get lucky with vision crystal + 2 damask bolts (29g~).

Good point.

Vesuvius.9874:

Wow… why does ANET even bother posting patch notes when the majority simply choose to come here to QQ about it without even reading?

Sadly, this seems to be the case with most of the whines about the patch.

Rentapest.6503:

Mileinnor.7125:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Login_rewards
Third time’s the charm.

You can get up to 55 laurels in 28 days just by logging in.

I still think 1 a day + monthlies was better. Especially when you’re trying to craft ascended things, and you need 5 per recipe. It’s only a5day wait, not longer as it is now.

Geez, Rentapest, would you actually READ the links given to you. If you had, you would note that you get 1 laurel on day 2 login, then 10, yes 10 laurels on day 7 login.

That’s a total of 11 laurels in 7 days of logging in, which is 4 more than you would have gotten if you had been doing old dailies for 7 days.

That will actually make your crafting job easier.

And then there’s this:

Mileinnor.7125:

Old system: In 31 consecutive days you get max 41 laurels.
New system: In 28 consecutive days you get max 55 laurels.

In my humble opinion, the new login system is better.

Last I checked, 55 is more than 41….and in 3 days less time.

Imagine that? But you would have known this already if you had bothered to read any of the links that were given in this thread.

Why do people ask questions about the patch when it is obvious that they haven’t even bothered to read the patch notes?

Stiofan.6720:

I really like the new daily system, hope they keep it like this. Remember if they add more pve dailies then they’ll have to add more wvw/pvp ones too (previous system was unfair to wvw/pvp players). If they did that it would become too clogged and less likely that people will try other game modes, The current system and amount of dailies is fine imo. If they do cave in to the complainers and decide to add more then I think it should be another 1 for each mode maximum.

You’re probably correct on that. Add one, tops, to each category.

Manasa Devi.7958:

I don’t consider the vast majority of the new ‘achievements’ something worthy of the english language meaning of that word. Or are we talking ironically?

a·chieve·ment
noun: achievement; plural noun: achievements

1. a thing done successfully, typically by effort, courage, or skill.
“to reach this stage is a great achievement”

2. the process or fact of achieving something.
“the achievement of professional recognition”

“a thing done successfully, typically by effort”…….just about anything done in a game could be technically called an achievement. Heck, just logging into a game is an “achievement” for some.

Now if you add in the “courage” part, that pretty much tosses all video games out the window.

Benjamin.7458:

Draknar.5748:

To sum up this entire thread:

People don’t like change.

But… but… but I like new dailies. I like them a lot. You can not count me on for your whinings.

A lot of people do like new dailies! And I am one of them ArenaNet did well to change this daily system

Completely agree! With maybe a slight tweak to how laurels are given out and maybe add a couple more pve choices to the dailies list. Other than that, great patch, imo!

Katz.5143:

I think if they added more choices to pve it would be ok. Less restrictive and more choices. As is, if I bother to do it at all, I will do most or all of it in WvW.

Good constructive criticism. This is one of the few valid points made in this thread. I agree, the pve choices could be tweaked just a bit….maybe add a couple more.

MFoy.3284:

This is just a WAG but after 15 pages and no response from Anet I’d guess this horse is dead, canned and labeled.

Y’all feel free to continue to argue over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin but this is settled. Like it or Lump it. It’s not going to change for the better despite valid points being raised.

Moreover, given the many mis-steps in the last 6mos or so, NPE, Traits, Gem Exchange, No Expansions, TP UI, etc you better learn to like the new Anet if you want to keep on playing.

I’d still like to know what drives these changes? They sure don’t feel like anything designed for the NA/EU crowd. Nor do they feel like anything from Anet in the past. Still, smile and be as happy as you can.

As always, my Mother said to say I had a good time…

Why should Anet pay any attention to this whinefest? I have been through the entire thread, and have seen maybe a couple of valid comments that have been constructively pointed out.

The rest of this thread has been whining for whine’s sake. “OMG, I hate change, Anet!!!! I can’t deal with any of this because it entirely screws up my life!!!! WAAAAHHHHH!!!!”

Seriously, I can’t see any reason at all why Anet should spend more than 5 minutes looking at this thread. Unless it is a slow day and they need a few laughs with their coffee and donuts.

I will take aps any way that I can get them. /shrug

Draknar.5748:

To sum up this entire thread:

People don’t like change.

Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

kimeekat.2548:

I also have limited play time, and do not enjoy PvP (I get too angry in any competitive game) or much WvW (limited play time does not mesh well with waiting and scouting etc). My play time did not intersect with the Shaman popping. A generic “take down a world boss” would be much improved.

My play time is precious. I always go into it with an idea of what I want to do. Last night I decided to try out the new system and get my PvE dailies. I spent half an hour competing with a zerg for credit in events (thank god for those Mordrem events), mining ore I didn’t want or need and viewing a vista I’d already seen multiple times across multiple characters. I had to dedicate half my play time to the daily instead of getting them as I farm for geodes or play in the silverwastes – the content I actually wanted to play. The other half hour of play time I spent on wintersday events, which I prioritized despite wanting to play in Dry Top more. Thank you for the Wintesday dailies.

I do like the AP being a bundle for completing the overall daily instead of being doled out by individual task. I’m just disappointed that I have less freedom than before.

And yet you had enough time to write this post. In the same amount of time it took you to write this you could have viewed a vista and checked off one of your daily tasks.

But no, you’d rather spend that precious time of yours complaining about it here.

Funny how that works.

America.9437:

I logged in to do my dailies and one of them was to view a vista in ascalon. I lol’d and said ok. I had a character parked in Black Citadel and went to one of the easiest vistas in the city and in less than 10 secs had that one checked off my checklist. Ugh! Why!? Just…uh…why!?

So if the intent of the new dailies was to get me to experience new things and places, welp it failed. IT FAILED. A huge majority of players when faced with this item on their checklist will take the path of least resistance and always go to the easiest vista to check that item off their list. You’ve created a chore for the player base.

Here’s how you get people to experience new things and new places….CREATE NEW THINGS AND NEW PLACES! STOP ALTERING CONTENT AND PASSING IT OFF AS NEW CONTENT. Sometime I feel as if Anet is just rearranging the furniture and calling it a new living room.

NPE – rearranging & removing furniture. Trait Overhaul – rearranging furniture. Dailies – rearranging furniture. I think the player base is being trolled.

You’re seriously whining about something that took you all of 10 seconds to complete?

Wow, the game will probably die tomorrow because of this horrid change.

It’s certainly enough to rage-quit over.

/sarcasm off

Agreed Wanze……this is patch day, therefor it is whiner’s day on the forums…….off to play the game!

Have fun!

JHCinSC.3017:

you need 3 daily tasks and if you only PVE there are only 3 so you have no flexibility (today is kryta lumber, ascalon vista and maguuma events). Being locked into which daily tasks you do isn’t better as I don’t like wvw, pvp or fractals. I’d done my daily since they first started, but after seeing the changes I just logged off. Guess I get to spend more time with the family so maybe it is an improvement.

I am curious. Did you actually TRY the new system? Or did you just look at it and say, “no”.

When you’re not even willing to try a new change for any length of time in a game before making a harsh judgement on it…….sounds like you were already looking for a reason to quit the game.

And that’s fine. Might help to be honest about it, though. And I don’t say that lightly or as a form of smack talk or whatever……I have played mmorpgs for a long time, and sometimes, when changes come along, one is just looking for a reason to quit. Been there, done that, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Fermi.2409:

Teon.5168:

but getting 10 ap for 15 minutes of game play time(tops) absolutely rocks in my book.

It’s sort of nice, but it also makes me feel like I’m being rewarded for doing nothing, which I’m not a huge fan of.

With as tough as it was to make any sort of substantial AP progress in the past, any improvement to that grind is more than welcomed, in my book.

Mr Snotty Pants.3980:

Teon.5168:

Those people that are complaining about this must only have around 15 minutes a night to play.

It is easy as pie to do, and the rewards are much better than before.

Seriously, quit whining, suck it up, go commit a huge 15 minute chunk of time, and do the daily. It is not rocket science.

I did the old system for fun. It framed a casual night of play.

The new system feels like busy work. I don’t care if it only takes 15 minutes, it has all the thrill of an old style delivery quest… chop 10 trees, click on a vista… yawn

The old system felt the same for me.

The new system offers better rewards, less time involved, and encourages me to do dailies, whereas before, I wanted nothing to do with them.

Can you see how there are players out there that hate this, and at the same time, there are players out there that love this……for very similar reasons?

Lothirieth.3408:

This thread is so full of fail. So many people not reading or attempting to understand the actual issue.

It’s not about the time.

It’s not about the rewards.

It’s about choice.

It’s not that hard to understand…. nor is it not that hard to not be a toxic kitten because someone has a different opinion than you.

I completely understand. Under the old system, I avoided dailies, unless they just happened for me while playing(about 50% of the time) as they were too much of a chore to me to do purposefully. Under the old system, I felt like I was being pressured to do something I didn’t want to do, most of the time.

Under the new system, I now get login rewards, 3 times the ap awards for doing dailies, and many more drops for the entire effort. That gives me more incentive to do the dailies, which take far less time for me now to do then they did before, with far less rewards before.

I love the new change.

Siltoneus.7138:

Teon.5168:

Siltoneus.7138:

New new Dailys suck. Completely and utterly. I’m not going to waste 3 hours of my time on a kitten Fractal for a ONE PART of a frickn’ Daily achievement. I have a life, and 1-1 1/2 hours a day is should be MORE THAN ENOUGH time to get a frickn’ daily achievement.
Lets hope someone at ANet realizes what a kitten colossal screwup this is, and fixes it post-haste.

Have you actually tried the new daily system? You can do it in 10-15 minutes easy.
Claiming that it takes 3 hours to complete is an utter fabrication.

Try it before just making stuff up about it.

You better kitten belive I’ve done them. Hated every kitten minute of it. And as far as taking 3 hours, I could care less what YOU think, I know how much time it takes me to run one of those PITA Fractals. With a family, job, and kids, you better BELIEVE I know EXACTLY how long it takes.

I have a job and family, too…..and with limited time to play, why the heck are you doing fractals to complete the daily???? You could spend a fraction, a fraction of that time and get the daily, THEN go do fractals.

I just did the daily tonight, taking my kitten ed sweet time, and it took all of 24 minutes. I could have easily done it in 10, had I been in a hurry.

I am not sure what your point is, except to rage and express anger at some change that screws with a whopping 10 minutes of your time.

Are some of you truly that inflexible?

Fermi.2409:

While I sort of like the new structure, it feels like they’re sort of gimmies; most of them are REALLY quick/easy. Also, I sort of preferred the 1 AP/daily instead of 10 for 3; if you worked more, you got more AP, which made sense. That being said, with a little refinement I think the new system could be much, much better then what we used to have.

Agreed…it needs some tweaks……especially the laurel reward system…….but getting 10 ap for 15 minutes of game play time(tops) absolutely rocks in my book.

Siltoneus.7138:

New new Dailys suck. Completely and utterly. I’m not going to waste 3 hours of my time on a kitten Fractal for a ONE PART of a frickn’ Daily achievement. I have a life, and 1-1 1/2 hours a day is should be MORE THAN ENOUGH time to get a frickn’ daily achievement.
Lets hope someone at ANet realizes what a kitten colossal screwup this is, and fixes it post-haste.

Have you actually tried the new daily system? You can do it in 10-15 minutes easy.
Claiming that it takes 3 hours to complete is an utter fabrication.

Try it before just making stuff up about it.

The laurel system could use some tweaking…….besides that, the new daily system is far easier with better rewards…..especially the AP rewards.

Lifestealer.4910:

This game is updated by unpaid interns, this is why each patch makes the game worse.

Do you even play the game anymore?

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

wow , many of you don’t realize how easy doing 3 of these achievements are. (take no more than 5 mins to do!!!!) NO LAURELS???? omg ! You get laurels by logging in now.

It is clear that those who are whining don’t have all the facts or didn’t even make an effort to get all of the facts.

You don’t get laurels immediately, as it looks like they’re now on a 7 click sort of thing. Login 7 times(consecutive or not, doesn’t matter) after the reset, and you get a nice bag of 7 laurels. Plus all the better rewards you now get for doing the dailies.

I completely agree with your above post. It is is simple as heck to get the dailies, and those that are gritching about it must either be completely inflexible, not willing to adapt…..or haven’t come anywhere close to actually trying it.

XTD, thought I would post this……posted this on another thread, but thought it might be valuable for here…..

So I logged in for the first time post patch, and decided to go do the daily. First off, got several small rewards just for logging in, and my first click of 7 logins until I get the bag of laurels. Ok, that’s better than before, since I never got anything on login before.

So went to do my daily, and purposefully took my time doing it. Harvested some Kryta timber, went to an Ascalonian viewpoint, and then purposefully went into wvw, as I knew that might take some time.

Please realize….I took my sweet time doing these things…..under no hurry and just kind of casually looking at where to go next…..

So went out to wvw……got in a couple fights, took a couple minor borderland points, and then finally did my daily of taking down a sentry and capturing the point.

Mind you, I wandered and purposefully took my time with it all.

It took me 24 minutes. Could easily be done in half that time. The rewards I got weren’t incredible, but they were good…..some xp scrit, some christmas goodies, some coin, and 10 AP…..the rewards were much better than the old system…..for doing next to nothing. And you don’t have to go to wvw…..I just did that as I knew it would take some time, as I went into more difficult areas.

Those people that are complaining about this must only have around 15 minutes a night to play.

It is easy as pie to do, and the rewards are much better than before.

Seriously, quit whining, suck it up, go commit a huge 15 minute chunk of time, and do the daily. It is not rocket science.

And if you don’t want to do the daily, that is fine, too. With the older system, the daily took much longer to complete, with far less rewards, even when I was specifically doing the daily.

Heck, sometimes when the coffee place is busy, I will spend 15 minutes just waiting for a coffee drink……I imagine others spend far more time just sitting still in traffic getting to work……..just sayin…….

So I logged in for the first time post patch, and decided to go do the daily. First off, got several small rewards just for logging in, and my first click of 7 logins until I get the bag of laurels. Ok, that’s better than before, since I never got anything on login before.

So went to do my daily, and purposefully took my time doing it. Harvested some Kryta timber, went to an Ascalonian viewpoint, and then purposefully went into wvw, as I knew that might take some time.

Please realize….I took my sweet time doing these things…..under no hurry and just kind of casually looking at where to go next…..

So went out to wvw……got in a couple fights, took a couple minor borderland points, and then finally did my daily of taking down a sentry and capturing the point.

Mind you, I wandered and purposefully took my time with it all.

It took me 24 minutes. Could easily be done in half that time. The rewards I got weren’t incredible, but they were good…..some xp scrit, some christmas goodies, some coin, and 10 AP…..the rewards were much better than the old system…..for doing next to nothing. And you don’t have to go to wvw…..I just did that as I knew it would take some time, as I went into more difficult areas.

Those people that are complaining about this must only have around 15 minutes a night to play.

It is easy as pie to do, and the rewards are much better than before.

Seriously, quit whining, suck it up, go commit a huge 15 minute chunk of time, and do the daily. It is not rocket science.

And if you don’t want to do the daily, that is fine, too. With the older system, the daily took much longer to complete, with far less rewards, even when I was specifically doing the daily.

All you have to do is log in each day, after reset, and you’ll get a laurel.
Read the patch notes when you log in to the game.

I would also imagine that the monthly info will remain until the end of December…..then you won’t see it again, as monthlies won’t exist beyond this month.

MauricioCezar.2673:

@Teon, you should really really read more careful my post. It is just my critique on how this sytem got putted in. It happened before as GOSU mentioned, so it should be had think better this way.

No one is talking non-sense about hate and uninstall. You are being very agressive, please, pay a little more attention on what is really going on.

Regards.

Man, I wish someone out there would make a sarcastic font……..

My bad, as I should have at least put a /sarcasm off somewhere.
And the quote was a play on a character’s line from The Princess Bride……all meant in humor.

I am going to quit the game since I lost ONE laurel, due to this patch!!!! I will not be disrespected like this!!!!!!

" Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my ONE laurel. Prepare to be uninstalled. "

This has got to be a fake thread, as I can’t believe that anyone would get this worked up about losing ONE laurel, due to the login on patch day.

X T D.6458:

Teon.5168:

Great post, XTD! Reading some of the whines and complaints about all this has just been hilarious to a point, and involving a lot of shaking my head. Amazing how patches just really set some people off…..lol.

Your post kept it all very simple and well defined.

But you’ll still see lots of complaints and mis-interpretations.

I am still seeing lots of posts talking about ‘monthlies’….when after this month, they won’t even exist anymore…..lol.

Good job, and keep it up!

Thank you kindly for that, yea its something we are used to, I just hope we can help clear some things up for folks so they can just play and not get angry over nothing.

I, for one, am really looking forward to the increased ap rewards!!!

Great post, XTD! Reading some of the whines and complaints about all this has just been hilarious to a point, and involving a lot of shaking my head. Amazing how patches just really set some people off…..lol.

Your post kept it all very simple and well defined.

But you’ll still see lots of complaints and mis-interpretations.

I am still seeing lots of posts talking about ‘monthlies’….when after this month, they won’t even exist anymore…..lol.

Good job, and keep it up!

SHM.7628:

Ayrilana.1396:

SHM.7628:

Mireles Lore.5942:

SHM.7628:

Now I have to carve out time each day to do this 28 days or no reward? Why not lower the threshhold to 15 days? I’m busy sometimes.

You don’t have to do it 28 days consecutively. You can miss a day, a week, or a month and still retain your progress.

Yeah, but if you don’t then you aren’t getting your full mothly reward for the year. That means you are getting the reward less frequnetly.

True. Getting the full rewards would be pushed back for however many days that you were not on. Would you really be so busy that you cannot login even for a minute?

Also, here’s a bit of math. There are 365 days in a year. The achievement is based on 28 days which is 336 days. This gives you a buffer if 29 days or an extra month compared to the old monthly system.

Ok, your point is noted, but i don’t want to get them less often than others due to my schedule.

So, using that point…..I should have been loudly complaining before with dailies because others were completing more dailies than I was, due to my schedule????

That affects everyone in mmorpgs. If you don’t play as often as others, you won’t get as many rewards, drops, aps, etc……it is just the way these sorts of games work. Just because your ‘schedule won’t allow it’ does not mean that you should get the same rewards as others in the game that can spend more time playing it.

Or maybe I am completely misunderstanding your point?

SHM.7628:

Teon.5168:

SHM.7628:

The daily today had 5 PVE catagories:

1) do 4 queensdale events
2) kill jungle worm
3) collect 4 plants in maguma jungle.
4) create something in the mystic forge
5) finish 3/4 daily catagories

Problems with each:

1) queensdale became a laggy. Too many people at each event who were basically one hitting enemies. I was at an escort event i got no credit for, becuase the mobs all died before my skills could activate. Bad idea packing a specific starter zone like that.

2) I just missed it. So now i have to wait for specific bosses to spawn? What a pain!

3)This one was Okay.

4) I don’t normally use the forge but since I missed the worm, I had to do it. it wasn’t difficult. However, it isn’t PVE, its crafting.

5) finish 3 catagories? You only need three. Not really helpful getting it when your done.

This is way more restrictive than the old system. Likewise for the monthy. When i have time to play I could get the monthly reward. Now I have to carve out time each day to do this 28 days or no reward? Why not lower the threshhold to 15 days? I’m busy sometimes.

1. Then come back later when the zone isn’t so crowded. Typical that a zone should be so packed right after the update goes live with a specific zone to do something in. I imagine this will get much more tolerable and easier after the patch has been live for a bit. Also, did you join the escort event really late, or at the beginning? The escort will be more than long enough to get in a hit or two…….your comment on the escort seems to indicate that you came in at the very end…..so I can understand why you might not get credit for it. Repops on most escorts don’t usually take very long, so you could easily get back in on the beginning of it in not too much time.

2. You do realize that there are several sites out there that list the times of all the bosses and what sort of schedule they’re on, yes? No need to wait….just check one of the many online schedules.

3. Crafting has been PvE ever since the origination of crafting in mmorpgs. You don’t have to kill another player to craft, so yes, it is Player vs Environment. And crafting is super easy and quick, once you see how it is done.

Also, you do realize that the ‘monthly’ will no longer exist, yes? As explained in the patch notes, the existing monthly will go ahead and play out for those in the middle of it, but after this monthly expires, there will no longer be ‘monthlies’.

1) I was there for the event not the end. I was on an Ele (long cast times) and between the lag and people one hitting everything, I did not kill enough to get credit, although I did kill a few mobs. Come back later is not a valid answer. Its too narrow an area to pack people into. I shouldn’t have to play around a design problem by returning later.

2) I don’t use third party sites, and I shouldn’t have to to complete my daily. I do use wiki, but their info is hit and miss. Still the requirement is too specific which leaves you waiting for a spawn. Again bad design.

3) crafting is crafting. Its an optional part of the game. It’s not PVE. There’s not enough PVE only options. Using the MF was not that bad, but still.

Nevermind…..I should have known better than to even try to respond to a stance like yours. You have already decided that since the game doesn’t cater to you, it’s “bad design”. /smh

Enjoy!

SHM.7628:

Mireles Lore.5942:

SHM.7628:

Now I have to carve out time each day to do this 28 days or no reward? Why not lower the threshhold to 15 days? I’m busy sometimes.

You don’t have to do it 28 days consecutively. You can miss a day, a week, or a month and still retain your progress.

Yeah, but if you don’t then you aren’t getting your full mothly reward for the year. That means you are getting the reward less frequnetly.

That’s completely pointless, as monthlies no longer exist after the December one is done. And with the additional wxp, ap, laurels, and other drops and rewards added by the patch…..the whole monthly thing won’t even be missed by most players.

It is sounding more like you are really just trying to find things with this patch to complain about, when, in the long run, your rewards/ap/etc……will end up being far better than the old system.

SHM.7628:

The daily today had 5 PVE catagories:

1) do 4 queensdale events
2) kill jungle worm
3) collect 4 plants in maguma jungle.
4) create something in the mystic forge
5) finish 3/4 daily catagories

Problems with each:

1) queensdale became a laggy. Too many people at each event who were basically one hitting enemies. I was at an escort event i got no credit for, becuase the mobs all died before my skills could activate. Bad idea packing a specific starter zone like that.

2) I just missed it. So now i have to wait for specific bosses to spawn? What a pain!

3)This one was Okay.

4) I don’t normally use the forge but since I missed the worm, I had to do it. it wasn’t difficult. However, it isn’t PVE, its crafting.

5) finish 3 catagories? You only need three. Not really helpful getting it when your done.

This is way more restrictive than the old system. Likewise for the monthy. When i have time to play I could get the monthly reward. Now I have to carve out time each day to do this 28 days or no reward? Why not lower the threshhold to 15 days? I’m busy sometimes.

1. Then come back later when the zone isn’t so crowded. Typical that a zone should be so packed right after the update goes live with a specific zone to do something in. I imagine this will get much more tolerable and easier after the patch has been live for a bit. Also, did you join the escort event really late, or at the beginning? The escort will be more than long enough to get in a hit or two…….your comment on the escort seems to indicate that you came in at the very end…..so I can understand why you might not get credit for it. Repops on most escorts don’t usually take very long, so you could easily get back in on the beginning of it in not too much time.

2. You do realize that there are several sites out there that list the times of all the bosses and what sort of schedule they’re on, yes? No need to wait….just check one of the many online schedules.

3. Crafting has been PvE ever since the origination of crafting in mmorpgs. You don’t have to kill another player to craft, so yes, it is Player vs Environment. And crafting is super easy and quick, once you see how it is done.

Also, you do realize that the ‘monthly’ will no longer exist, yes? As explained in the patch notes, the existing monthly will go ahead and play out for those in the middle of it, but after this monthly expires, there will no longer be ‘monthlies’.

VisionStorm.5234:

Teon.5168:

VisionStorm.5234:

Teon.5168:

Ok, you’re reading a lot into my post that isn’t there. I never said I “hated” dailies….just that they were becoming too much a chore for me, when I could just go off and do other things that I enjoyed more. Giving me a laurel for logging in….yes…..love that change. But I also love the fact now that IF I do want to do dailies….I only have to do 3, and I get 10ap for that! Much better than before! And yes, I LOVE that change!

Plus the added wxp and badges of honor changes are also really good, imo.

Please read what I type, rather than just completely reinterpreting everything to support your ‘non sequitur’ point. What did you actually think my “underlining point” was, anyways?

I’m not reading into anything. I’m just saying that from the stuff you actually mentioned on that post (I didn’t notice any of your other posts until after I posted that) the only thing you really mention that you like is that now you get a laurel just for login in, so you no longer have to do the dailies to get that and can just ignore them (what I meant by the “underlying point” of your post). That point doesn’t really seem to follow, since the laurel specifically doesn’t speak directly to the changes to the dailies themselves as a game activity, as opposed to just getting that specific reward. They could have just giving us the free laurel and otherwise left the dailies as they were (Daily Kills, Daily Gather, etc.) and it would have been the same thing.

And I didn’t necessarily mean “hate” in a strong sense. Just that you were tire of doing them.

It sure seemed to me that you were reading a lot more into my initial post then what was actually there. Hopefully my follow up post explained my feelings about it better.

Yeah, I’m still learning the new system. Its possible some of the event-specific rewards (complete X events in specific map, etc.) might be worth it on the long run. But I just loved been able to log, if only for a while, and “achieve” some type of reward just by doing random stuff along the way. Now I have to do stuff like specifically leave the map (potentially spend travel money I’ve been trying to save) to go to a different location I may otherwise have no need or interest in going to (like the Queensdale events they have today, which is a map I’m tired off from running too many low lv characters recently) and it just feels too much like a chore, whereas before I just got them along the way to whatever I was doing.

I can understand why you feel that way. The old system was becoming a similar chore to me, as I felt like there was some pressure there for me to do the daily to get my laurel and the measly 3ap. That is gone for me now with the new system, as the laurel is taken care of with logging in, and I now get 10ap for doing only 3 things, rather than 3ap for doing 5 things……so that means a bit more incentive to do it all for me, since the ap reward is a lot better.

But yes, forcing you to go to places that you don’t enjoy to do the daily(or whatever is the proper name for it, now) would be a bit of a pain, too, for some.

And I might completely change my mind on all this after doing it for a month or so.

Ayrilana.1396:

Lishtenbird.2814:

Okay, so I spent 25 minutes doing dailies for AP and experience for alts instead of playing the new patch.

What should I like again about that change?

At least experience is bottled and can be passed…

You got 10 AP instead of 3 AP and in less time than it would have taken to get 10 AP.

Sounds like a win to me. 7 more ap than before, and in a lot less time.

VisionStorm.5234:

Teon.5168:

Ok, you’re reading a lot into my post that isn’t there. I never said I “hated” dailies….just that they were becoming too much a chore for me, when I could just go off and do other things that I enjoyed more. Giving me a laurel for logging in….yes…..love that change. But I also love the fact now that IF I do want to do dailies….I only have to do 3, and I get 10ap for that! Much better than before! And yes, I LOVE that change!

Plus the added wxp and badges of honor changes are also really good, imo.

Please read what I type, rather than just completely reinterpreting everything to support your ‘non sequitur’ point. What did you actually think my “underlining point” was, anyways?

I’m not reading into anything. I’m just saying that from the stuff you actually mentioned on that post (I didn’t notice any of your other posts until after I posted that) the only thing you really mention that you like is that now you get a laurel just for login in, so you no longer have to do the dailies to get that and can just ignore them (what I meant by the “underlying point” of your post). That point doesn’t really seem to follow, since the laurel specifically doesn’t speak directly to the changes to the dailies themselves as a game activity, as opposed to just getting that specific reward. They could have just giving us the free laurel and otherwise left the dailies as they were (Daily Kills, Daily Gather, etc.) and it would have been the same thing.

And I didn’t necessarily mean “hate” in a strong sense. Just that you were tire of doing them.

It sure seemed to me that you were reading a lot more into my initial post then what was actually there. Hopefully my follow up post explained my feelings about it better.

VisionStorm.5234:

Teon.5168:

I think this is a great change. Dailies were getting to be too much of a ‘job’ for me….I really didn’t enjoy doing them that much just so I could get my laurel. I had gotten to the point where I just did wvw or explored pve, and if I got the daily, fine…..if not…..well ok.
Now that I get a laurel just for logging in, I can kiss the dailies goodbye…..sweet!!!!

Love the new changes to the system!

I would be willing to bet that my wife will like the changes, too…..as she was also treating dailies like a necessary job to do in game for the laurel…..now she will be able to get the laurel for just logging in, and then can spend her time doing other stuff that she enjoys much better than the daily drudgery.

Your underlining point says nothing on the actual changes to the dailies itself (and this is an opinion I’ve seen brought up a couple of times). Its a non sequitur. Basically you hated doing dailies before, still hate doing them now, but “love” the changes because now you get your laurel just for login. Or in other words, you don’t really “love” the changes, you just love getting your free laurel. They could have just given us the free laurel and left the dailies alone.

PS: I still haven’t even gotten my laurel, for that matter. I had 87 last I checked yesterday, still have 87 today. Plus I don’t normally check the forums, so I didn’t know about these changes, and didn’t even complete my dailies last night, cuz I thought I had time to do them today.

Ok, you’re reading a lot into my post that isn’t there. I never said I “hated” dailies….just that they were becoming too much a chore for me, when I could just go off and do other things that I enjoyed more. Giving me a laurel for logging in….yes…..love that change. There are lots of times when I login where I don’t want to do dailies, but wanted to get a laurel….so had to do the daily. Now, when I login, I get the laurel….so there is no implied pressure for me to do the daily, unless I actually want to.

I love the fact now that IF I do want to do dailies….I only have to do 3, and I get 10ap for that! Much better than before! And yes, I LOVE that change!

Plus the added wxp and badges of honor changes are also really good, imo.

Please read what I type, rather than just completely reinterpreting everything to support your ‘non sequitur’ point. What did you actually think my “underlining point” was, anyways?

Ayrilana.1396:

Thank you. That’s what I had read in the blog post and seen.

So the only incentive to do the daily is for the 10 AP. You only have to do 3 daily achievements now to get 10 AP compared to before where you had to do 10. I can tell you from experience that getting all of the daily achievements before the update took between 30-60 minutes depending on your luck with a few.

It seems like all players benefit from this. If they want AP, they can do the daily achievements and get 10 AP from doing only 3 of the daily achievements across the three format types. Seems like a pretty great deal. You also get various rewards specifically for doing each daily achievement which we didn’t get before. On top of this, many of the existing daily achievements were shortened such as gatherer allowing for them to be completed quicker than before.

Laurels are now rewards through the login reward system by simply logging in. Unlike before where you had to do 5 achievements, you can simply spend under a minute of your day just logging in just to get credit. If you don’t care for AP, you no longer have to bother doing the daily achievements. Over the course of the month, you get 29 laurels and various other rewards. At the end of the month, you get a choice of rewards where laurels is an option. Very nice! If you can’t login at all for a period? No worries! Your progress is saved.

Again….agreed. Scratching my head over why some players are howling about this.

Danikat.8537:

Ayrilana.1396:

So doing the achievements to complete the daily rewards what exactly?

Each daily has it’s own rewards.

• Killing the jungle wurm in Caledon awards 25 Dragonite Ore, 2 XP scrolls and a rare item. (I assume that’s in addition to the rare from the boss chest.)
• The one for claiming WvW borderlands gives you extra WXP and badges of honour.
• The PvP ones all seem to give bonus progress on your current reward track.

And then if you do any 3 dailies you also get 10 achievement points.

That is the biggest part of the change that I really, really like. The AP reward for doing the daily is so much better than the old system. I think it is a great improvement!

Plus, as you listed above, better rewards in other areas as well, like wxp and badges of honor.

Malkavian.4516:

Imaginos.3756:

Far fewer choices in pve for those who only do pve. This is an amazingly crappy change. I thought we were going to get more options not less. You already did Less and people HATED it. You can’t be that clueless Anet.

Add more options!

Here’s the thing, the previous dailies provide more options but the options themselves are very very general like “Daily Events”, “Daily Kills”, etc. The options are there but you can practically accomplish them without you even knowing it.

The new dailies are actually really good in that the requirements to complete the daily are less by 2 but the objectives themselves are specific. It just feels slightly more accomplishing, at least for me anyway, in actually doing a daily.

If the concern lies in getting the laurel for each daily then the log-in rewards provide you that while accomplishing a specific daily will just get you the reward specific to said daily along with some AP. In a way, it’s less tedious to do if your concern is just that laurel.

Agreed. At least for my playing style.

Looks like it will work great for the way I play.

I guess I am just not getting why some people are gritching about the changes so much. I am not sure why it so drastically effects a certain playstyle, as some people state. I guess it just comes down to certain people actually enjoying dailies and not wanting any possible bumps to a system that they already enjoyed.

If I played that way, I guess I might be a bit unhappy, too.

After rereading the article on the changes, I still like them better than the old system. Looks like that if I do want to do dailies, I will get more ap rewards……also looks like I will be getting more aps in wvw, as well. And then my laurel every day for just logging in.

What’s not to like? Jmo, of course.

I think this is a great change. Dailies were getting to be too much of a ‘job’ for me….I really didn’t enjoy doing them that much just so I could get my laurel. I had gotten to the point where I just did wvw or explored pve, and if I got the daily, fine…..if not…..well ok.
Now that I get a laurel just for logging in, I can kiss the dailies goodbye…..sweet!!!!

Love the new changes to the system!

I would be willing to bet that my wife will like the changes, too…..as she was also treating dailies like a necessary job to do in game for the laurel…..now she will be able to get the laurel for just logging in, and then can spend her time doing other stuff that she enjoys much better than the daily drudgery.