I never really gave much attention to the added rewards in wvw. That’s not why I am there. I play it for the fun of it, not to grind out some shinys.
Hello all,
One reason I left PvP for WvW was due to the level of toxicity is less in WvW. Sur eyou get the occasional idiots that jump on dead bodies (even when in an outnumbered situation) or throw siege, laugh, or teabag. It still isn’t as bad as PvP.
I have always tried to WvW with respect. I will /bow at the end of good fights to show this respect.
I may get salty whispers from time to time, however nothing short of amusing when I do get them. Still better than PvP.
Last night, there was a good fight where it was a 2v3 (we were 3) in our camp, and the 2 (DPS reaper and rifle scrapper) did very well. They downed 2 of us, almost 3 (i barely survived) and took out a bunch of NPC’s as well. I did my /bow and got a whisper.
I was expecting a salty whisper but it was an appreciation whisper for showing respect to them. I was floored that someone actually took my /bow for how it was meant. Even made a new friend out of it. Later in the night, /bow a DH that I downed by his zerg (bailed as they were rushing me to rez him), saw him later when I was afk (cleaning inventory) and his zerg was taking the camp i was near. He didnt attack, just jumped around me. I was startled so I bailed, he dropped traps somewhere and I (i knew they were there but forgot?) and triggered them, dropped and he came up to me, waved, then left me to res.
First time(s) I saw mutual respect in WvW. I loved it. Sure i got more bad whispers of salty ppl but those 2 acts were the best things I have experienced (that, and a wicked portal bomb into lords room that I set up a long time ago…that was also awesome).
TL:DR; Some people are morons, and some people are worth the respect you give them in WvW.
Anyone else have any awesome experiences from opposing players?
Those sorts of experiences are few and far between….but yea, I have experienced a few. Makes you smile a lot when it happens. And yea, I always try and show respect after good fights, whether I win or lose.
My most recent experience of that nature didn’t even involve fighting. I was messing around roaming late, late one night several weeks ago….things were pretty slow, so I went out to pick up a few miscellaneous dailies. Was coming up on this enemy sentry, and just before I got to him, noticed this enemy player approaching it as well….we both stopped short of the sentry and waited to see who would attack first….neither of us did, so we both slowly approached the sentry and then killed it together and waited around to get the daily, then backed off and bowed to each other before heading off in our own directions. It was very late, and I was tired….otherwise I probably would have attacked the enemy player…..in the end it was just a nice, unique experience of cooperation(even though we didn’t need to as sentries are ezpz). I got a good chuckle and smile out of it….(the enemy player must have been tired, too….lol)
And fwiw, have also experienced this same sort of thing when taking a camp solo and a solo enemy player has come in and helped…..only has happened a couple times in several years, and has almost always been really, really late.
Fun when it happens, but 98% of the time it is kill or be killed, and then show respect if it was a good battle.
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You get credit for killing anything that’s not a neutral. Even if you lose, you can just kill guards. I mean, I got 50% of level 1 by getting a single kill.
If you tag someone and die, you’ll still get credit if someone else kills them.
Hence the bizarre tactic of finding 2 opposing groups and trying to tag them.
Go around killing guards. When someone takes the objective in the future, you still get credit…
You’ve never been on an outnumerbered server have you? You can’t kill guards if there are 40 people waiting to kill you at every camp and every tower.
I have. This morning. We were driven into spawn. For about 15 minutes I got a total of 2 kills. (1from pulling someone into spawn lol). It got better after a while due to attrition.
Honestly I don’t get why people complain about spawn camp. In other games peopke kill you just as you respawn. That is why it is unfair. Here, you can abuse the invul as well as multiple exits.
Post a screenshot of the enemy seevers camping all exits across all 4 maps, and maybe I will consider.
40 people at every camp and tower on the map??? LMAO!!!!
Yea, I would like to see screenshots of that, as well….but I won’t hold my breath.
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Who cares about pips? I don’t. I just want to have fun out there. If I am smiling and laughing while I am playing wvw, then all is right with the world.
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I am hoping you’re correct, Sylvyn. But I could see the 1up, 1down also affecting the groupings in a way that Anet had not considered. I won’t mind if it takes Kaineng down a notch, but if they go, “well, that lowbie should be grouped with a higher T1”…..well, then, it will suck bigtime, imo.
Mainly, I am just hoping that we never, ever have to see BG again. This week has just sucked, as we just don’t have anywhere close to the numbers to compete with them. And that is all I want to be able to do…..compete. I don’t care if we lose, as long as we can be competitive. Battles aren’t fun when you’re consistently outnumbered 3-1 or worse.
And I am not even mentioning how sucky small havoc or roaming is when the enemy has the sort of coverage and defense that a T1 server has for all areas of the map at pretty much any given hour.
I can’t even see how BG is having much fun in this matchup, considering their complete dominance.
Guess we’ll see.
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there is an rng roll +- 100 to the glicko roll when matchmaking occurs. Since servers 2-8 are within 100 they can swap places based on the RNG gods.
Don’t feel bad, you rng rolled T1 one week, we are on week 2 of too big for us……
True, but we should at least get a mulligan or something. Pretty much all of the regular WvW players are calling it quits this week.
Yup….whenever we get paired up against a T1 server, most everyone spends that 3 weeks doing pve or other game stuff.
After a couple hours out there, it just gets to be super pointless. Although I must admit that it is hilarious fun when you come upon the occasional zerg with mostly new wvw’ers in it.
I don’t get it.
According to the leaderboards, our server is 6th place, YB is 5th, and BG is 1st, yet we are are all paired against each other in this weeks match. So ANet considers it fair to pit the 1st, 5th and 6th against each other, while the 2nd place JQ fights at 3rd tier, and 3rd place fights at 2nd tier.
From the wiki: “high-ranked worlds will battle other high-ranked worlds, and low-ranked worlds will battle other low-ranked worlds.” But this does not appear to be so.
The only thing I can think of that would compound this is the linking system. JQ, BG, and Maguuma are unlinked while the others all. I realize that this would also lock at least these 3 servers in Eternal Battle and get quite boring, but how is it fair to pit lower servers against higher? Is this just for amusement, to give BG easier pickings?
Since reset, TC has been constantly outnumbered and overly dominated, and queues are empty. However last week, I never saw outnumbered and queues were full daily, and most importantly, fights were fair.
I hear ya. Am on Kaineng, and we’re paired with TC, and seeing BG again is just mind boggling.
I think Anet actually wants people to get disinterested in wvw……lol.
Seriously, the matchups make absolutely no sense sometimes. LOL….not that I don’t still try….but the fun factor doesn’t last long against BG.
Looks like it 3 weeks of some part time wvw mixed with checking out some of my neglected games.
I concur. The changes were all very postive and I do hope that some of those new players remain. It has changed quite a bit as there always seems to be more people around no matter the BL.
Completely agree. Wvw has been a ton of fun since the patch, despite the huge queues at times.
Although, I find the entire pip system pointless. It will be popular for a month or two, and then the players who truly spend all their time in wvw won’t give a hoot about it, if they ever did.
I am no hardcore wvw player. I am just casual and low level, but it is the main thing I do. I already find the entire pip system pointless. (Ok, some of the guild decorations are cool, if your guild is into that)
Maybe when the loyalty bonuses actually happen, and someone gets a free legendary, then I might go, “WTF!!??!!”
All kidding aside, I think that the wvw update has been very successful, overall.
It has brought a ton of people out into wvw.
Now, if they would just update and add some servers to handle the lag of the added players…..well, yea, that would be cool.
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Currently to get any of the gear in WvW if you were to start at level 1 now and try to get to 1500 it would take a year and a half.
In WoW an expansion comes out, but it doesn’t take a couple years to get the new gear it only takes a couple months which is alot more reasonable.
Think the Anet Devs need to take in consideration that the rate of which people will level will actually be exponentially slower due to queues and less play time because of the fact of limited time to play.
What can be done? Add a solution to fix the over population maybe a new map. lower the rank req to atleast 1000.
i agree completely, I’d like to attain this armor sometime this year, otherwise this is just another unrealistic korean mmo grind
Just curious…..do you play wvw for rewards?
I only do content for rewards, if there is no rewards i usually don’t play the content. I like treasure what can i say. I do all types of content though and play all game modes I do enjoy it sometimes, but a lot of it is tedious in my opinion and a lot of my enjoyment comes from getting rewards.
Fair enough. I got no problems with that. People play the game for different reasons.
Best of luck!
I would tend to agree with Indigo…..that probably has a lot to do with it.
That being said, I got in no prob later, as there were no queues, or very small ones.
LOL…quite funny…..actually, a bunny rabbit running around in all sorts of different directions with no goal would be good, too.
(Talking about commander tags that are obviously completely new to wvw)
well you are waiting you can always go onto a different map. T1 had 4 maps queued but the longest i waited tonight without actually being in wvw was not voer 5 min. go in the emptiest map then que for whatever you want.
All of our maps were queued…..we initially got in EB, because it was the smallest of the bunch….but all our maps were queued……so we had no choice….as they were all about the same size later. (and if you were wondering, yea, the wife and I have been here since almost the beginning, and I have been playing wvw for awhile, so we do know about queue jumping as you suggested)
Another hour, and it will empty out.
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Do you need the new shinies to play the game?
Does not having them give you a massive disadvantage over those that do?
For the record, I haven’t even cracked 1,000 in rank after four years, and I still stand behind Anet doing this.
I don’t know about you, but I look much classier in shiney stuff lying dead on the battlefield.
Oh I find I scout my best in the prone position.
LOL…..actually, there is some truth to that….lol.
Do you need the new shinies to play the game?
Does not having them give you a massive disadvantage over those that do?
I don’t know about you, but I look much classier in shiney stuff lying dead on the battlefield.
Oh, I realize that. It just seemed a lot quicker than normal a couple nights back. And like I said, might just be my imagination.
Nice, clear, concise guide for those that might not be terribly familiar with wvw.
Personally, I don’t really care about the new shineys. I enjoy playing wvw just because I have a ton of fun playing it. Mostly roaming and small havoc, but I do zerg every once in awhile, too.
Even if I could easily get the new shineys in my limited playing time, I doubt if it would interest me much.
If I wanted to grind like crazy for some pretty baubles, I would be playing pve all the time. I have already done super grindy garbage in other, older mmorpgs, to get shineys…and frankly, imo….the sheer time investment is just not worth it.
But hey, if I get 2k wvw rank some day, I will probably just continue playing wvw and completely ignore the ability to get the ‘reward’ for that rank. /shrug
And if you’re into the new shineys, then more power to you and best of luck! As others have said, load up on the boosters and charge ahead!
Peace!
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Maybe with increased participation, the ranks will go faster, but prior to now, my average is probably about 1 per night….I’m on the 5-year plan…:)
Are you trolling? What are you doing? That’s close to impossible to only get 1 per night.
No it’s not. You don’t know how Sylvyn plays the game. Maybe he/she plays only an hour or so a night, does some slow paced roaming or whatever, doesn’t remember to run any wvw bonuses, takes frequent breaks, etc….
There have been many nights when I just got 1 level out there….because of the way I was playing (breaks, talking to wife, reorganizing drops, etc). Sure, most of the times I am out there, I will get more than 2-4 levels…..but some nights I just play relaxed and laid back and don’t care about levels at all. (Most of the time I don’t even pay attention to levels until I quit for the night).
/shrug
I’m a roamer and I get more than 1 rank every single time I play (without any boosters). I’m sorry but if you can’t play more than 1hr per night and can’t get more than 1 rank per night… You’re just being entitled. These rewards require time investment and expecting kitten to be giving out to you because you haven’t been able to get the rank required in almost 5yrs of this gamemode is not a valuable input.
I was responding to your statement about it being next to impossible to only get 1 level during playtime. You don’t know how Sylvyn plays the game, and neither do I. I was just presenting how one could play wvw for that period of time and not rack up multiple levels.
Not sure how you went from that to some sort of sense of entitlement. I am perfectly fine with the 2k line on the T3 stuff. And I am perfectly fine with whatever levels I may or may not get while playing wvw.
At my age, the game is a pleasant diversion for me, and that’s it. I rarely get serious, in any way, shape, or form, about a video game anymore. It is just a way of having some mindless fun with friends after the work day for me.
I meant for anyone behind the idea (not at you directly but you defended that mentality which is completely absurd to me) that this rank is too high of a requirement when they can’t even get more than 1 rank per day of play; it’s a you (general you) problem, not the game or the developers. Idk how they play but to not get more than 1 rank you have to be doing NOTHING and most likely dying more than you cap or kill so why should that be rewarded? And if it’s because they’re on a time constraint, it’s no one else’s problem.
Not defending it…..just was saying how it is possible. There have been many times when I have only gotten that much, but it is when I am not paying much attention to the mode, i.e., talking to the wife, to other stuff with the pets, etc…….not defending it….just showing how it is possible.
When I am into wvw, yea, 4-5 levels in an hour is very doable, even roaming. (That usually happens when my wife is in bed and I don’t have any interruptions, and I can just work fast with camps, sentries, etc…..) People who play on a casual basis, with limited game time should realize that 2k is probably unattainable. As it should be. At the same time, someone who plays casual like I do, shouldn’t expect that kind of reward to just be given to them.
And I am fine with that.
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As JQ’s Legendary Scout, even I’m not rank 2000 yet! That’s because scouting / building / back capping / doing the chores / was and is still unrewarding. This back piece and armor just makes it that much more of a slap in the face to those of us that took care of our Worlds. It’s what it is and it after almost 5 years of WvW, completely expected from the dev’s.
Time to kitten it all, booster up, and farm all the guppies trying out the mode.
I am in the same boat, as I have limited playing time, and I love to havoc and roam.
Not sure if I can force myself to get into the agonizing boredom that is zergs just for a cool shiney.
As long as I continue to have fun….that is all that matters to me.