Commander – Jam Death [Jd]
Fissure of Woe
Nice matchup, thanks for good fights and fun
Yeah, was an awesome matchup (although I didn’t spend that much time during the week in WvW, I had a great previous weekend :-) ). And the odds are that we’ll be meeting again for the next matchup.. So keep them good fights coming! :-)
Kenshin (Krytan Drakehound, same name as my real life dog)
Arachnae (Jungle Spider)
:-)
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stealth_Disruptor_Trap
need I say more?
Yes, please do, since it’s gibberish..
You can’t expect people to invest karma, badges, coin just to counter stealth.. How would you feel as a thief if you had to pay all that stuff to get conditions cleansed from you?
Indeed, condition —> condition removal (utility)
BUT, stealth --> stealth disruptor trap (karma, badges, coin)
So yeah, please do say more..
2. Allow only 1 spirit to be out at a time.
3. In 4 different tree’s maybe around the master trait line have a trait that allows them to follow you and increase their effectiveness.
Hmmz, you sure you aren’t working at ANet? Nerf them spirit rangers a bit more into the ground, yeah!
Although I don’t care, being full zerker
:-)
@OP
for pve you should really use either sword or GS (sword having higher dps… but an annoying root… and not all the chain cleaves) double bow isnt a good set up
I’m intrigued by this comment.. Would you care to elaborate why LB/SB isn’t viable?
What im looking for is:
- which class isn’t forced into a single build (condition or not)? because i like variety…
- which class is able to deal a sustained damage without go full zerker?
- which class is able to defend better without go bunker?
- which class is viable in WvW?
- which class is viable in power build (not full zerker and not condition… just power)?
- which class is more funny to play? (the most important think!)
- which class is harder to play (i love to learn hard tactics to get maximum benefits from builds)?
thank you for your time
1. none of the three, there are tons of builds for these professions
2. Raw damage: I would say Elementalist here (AoE nuker), but the other two can also deal quite some nice dmg (Necro has lots of conditions (and thus condi dmg))
3. all of them
4. all of them
5. all of them
6. depends on you.. I like Engineer the most out of those 3..
7. Engineer has the steepest learning curve from those 3..
Casual WvW player response:
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My thoughts exactly.. A profession is what you make of it and having fun with it is purely subjective.. So you and I, we love our rangers, we have learned to work with the pet, and we’ll keep playing our mains for a long long time
(although ANet really should look at us from time to time without the “what shall we nerf now” mentality)
Just because you suck at playing ranger now that you can’t use the most passive build in existence to carry you to victory doesn’t mean the rest of us became bad.
I’ve been doing just fine. Seeing as how, you know, I haven’t been using a kittening spirit build for god knows how long.
^^
Durz for president..
@ Tribio, are you a ranger commander? if so, how do you survive in wvw. Btw this ain’t sarcastic, i bought a Tag yesterday for my ranger, since I intend to main it.
Yeps, I am a ranger commander.. Even better, I’m a glass cannon ranger commander.. :-)
The thing is that I never use my commander tag for PUG zergs.. I pop it just once in a while when doing some guild stuff.. So there is no need for me to be in the front of the attack, leading my zerg to victory.. I can just lay back, rain down some mayhem, and (ab)use the massive evades a ranger has..
Edit/Addendum: If you choose to lead a zerg as a ranger, you’ll have to be a bit more tanky than I am of course..
how is the roaming in this tier? am i better off going to tier 9?
Nah, choose a decent moment, avoid them battle markers, and EB is still the place to be for the casual roamer..
They really are not very good anymore. Thank you.
ANET you wrecked this class. Congrats.
They are awesome and good, you just need to learn to appreciate them..
OP, you wrecked this thread. Congrats.
Are rangers any good at PVE and PVP and WvW?
I kinda want to play mine.
If you really want to play it, go play it.. You’ll get good with it and you’ll notice that your PvE, WvW and PvP will be a breeze..
Oh, and ignore the QQ about rangers and how useless they are and how crap the pet is and all that.. It takes some time and skill to get you completely comfortable with the class and its playstyle, but apparently not all have that time..
1. Dwarves!!!!!!!!!
and the guys from jd are the only guild, which put up some remarkable fights
Heartwarming comments, me gusta..
He’s right though, if people just abandoned the last 9 or 12 servers, the population of the top 12 would be much more evenly distributed.
I agree, but there is a level of respect to be had for those that latch on to their community.
FoW till the end!!
Well, I was about to post “WvW”, but you apparently find it slow? Have to admit I have earned most of my karma just there..
We are not talking about buffs for players but only about tweaking score to make match equal to servers real strength.
Hmmz, so that means that the maximum amount of points on a map would be random?
A tower, worth 10 points to the outnumbering server, would be worth 40 points if the outnumbered server takes it? I can see the SM camping already happening: 240 points/tick, just because the other server has more people..
A lot depends of course on the matchup we’re in.. Some high-popped servers just zerg more than others..
When we used to be in our Vabbi/FoW tier, we would always get zerged by the third server.. But with some guild transfers and so on there has been a bit of a change in the lower tiers.. You might not have noticed, but FoW managed to crawl out of T9 (took us 10 months).
However, an issue still is the off-time coverage. We don’t have that many other-continent players who are willing to WvW while EU is sleeping..
Nevertheless, we have some nice fights, we have enormous fun.. And we like to kick the kitten of those servers that like to mock the “trash can” tiers..
Yes I think they did, but they never tested it with a large number of gamers.
Here is a little insight into the world.. MONEY is what makes everything turn around.. ANet created GW2 to earn money (and give a game to players in the meantime)..
What are you talking about? I have payed my 60$ for this game for this game mode, and I expect a working product.
Your 60$ is a one time cash-in for ANet.. However, the gem store and the server transfers, that keeps yielding income for ANet.. So of course they focus on stuff that earns them money..
Did you actually think that ANet created this game for the players?
Are the low scoring servers (Vabbi, Whiteside Ridge, Fissure of Woe, and Arborstone) dead in WvW? Must be terrible to be playing there.
Feel free to come and check it out.. Kitten..
No, it is just equal fight. ANet just DO IT! it will work great
Jeezes, why didn’t you mention than: If outnumber 1:4, just do our damage and healings * 4
?
Indeed, stupid..
Something tells me you didn’t think this entirely through..
Only way to fix population issue is tweaking income server which is outnumbered. For example if there is 1:4 ppl ratio on two servers, all income of lower server should be multiple x4.
I can’t understand why ANet didn’t figure it out, it is so simple, and should work perfect.
-100000
Yeah, what a plan.. Punish the bigger server because they are.. yeah.. bigger!
I’m trying to have a serious conversation civil and on what is wrong with the ranger in the hope that they are not empty words and someone gets a spare minute to read
You should mention explicitly that you are talking about the PET.. :-)
1) make him stai closer to me, is annoying when in some dungeon when i stop it gets far ahead triggering traps/mobs etc. any ranger can confirm this and some time i have to moave more to make him get out of aoe too
Keep pet on passive, so it sticks very close to you.. Always force your targets (F1) and keep an eye on the pet’s health (recall/swap if needed)
2)put shouts on cd if pet is death (is simply to don’t waste skills on miss klick) in arah i pressed search and rescue contles times with mi pet death
Multiple times? :o
Misclicking can happen, but when you keep doing it.. Hmmz..
3)the unresponsive f2 is really annoying and i know is not the first therd on this ok i acept cast time (this is realy is a bug!)
This has been mentioned on these forums already multiple times..
But yeah, my guess is that you’ll have lots of replies here with people QQ’ing about the useless pet and so on.. And they’ll prolly mention that a ranger in a dungeon is a bad idea to begin with..
I am looking for a class that is viable solo/roaming, I like going back and capping camps that enemies have taken in a small group or by myself
Definitely ranger!
Proof of concept:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRFszeYiXWg
:-)
Oh, a constructive reply, I like.. :-)
you could make a video to show us how amazing the ranger is in NUMERICALLY BALANCED wvw fights
My own vids are pure solo roaming vids.. :-)
Our awesome guild leader has some nice vids on his channel, but (unfortunately) they are from his perspective (guardian):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSVyMxgNRp8
You’ll see the nice white ranger with wings running around.. :-)
It is no numerically balanced match however, we are a bit outnumbered in this encounter.. Nevertheless, we stomp..
The amazing thing here about the ranger? Entangle and Barrage. And taking out the ones that try to run away of course..
(most of the team are guardians, but they aren’t as mobile and ranged as a ranger)
Of course, I have to add that also the other classes are doing nicely here.. We have one hell of a support ele, giving us some nice water/fire fields. The necro’s of course pop conditions, …
TL;DR: Every profession has an added value to a team.
Would it be feasible, to take away the ability to swap pets in combat, and make them unable to die? Yet still susceptible to CC.
Oh, I can hear the QQ already about that.. Something that cannot die but can kill, doesn’t look like a good plan tbh..
Also, I like my pet swapping (melee pet/ranged pet) depending on the situation I get in..
Ok, clear to me that you are just looking to get into a heated discussion.. I’ll reply here, and then I’ll move on.. Kitten..
I play spvp only ye, sometimes pve (mostly dgs) and rarely wvw (that game mode is a mess, only real pro commanders like yourself could appreciate that).
Thanks for informing me what I appreciate in this game.. Wouldn’t know what to do without you pointing this out..
WvW is a mess, even this “pro” commander says it..
Do you even play pvp? If you are the only one on a point and you are defending it, if you move out of that point you will lose it.
Ok, that cracked me up.. So if I should be like another class (without a pet), I’ll have to stick in the AoE and possible get tons of dmg on me, just so that the other team can’t cap? I’m certainly not an avid PvP player, but somehow I find that logic of yours flawed, to say the least..
In wvw every time i see a video of one of those “hardcore wvw guilds” playing gvg or just zerging around all i see are aoe effects cluttering the screen (lol it’s not like tpvp is any different tbh).
This while the idiot of the moment aka commander aka mobile blue mark is running around screaming.
You really should do some WvW, if that is your impression of it atm.. From the statements you are making here, you’d make one hell of a zergling..
So in a scenario like this how is the poor ranger supposed to keep the stupid pet alive? “sry oh my commander can i retreat for a moment from the fight cos my pet is getting slaughtered by all the aoe spam?”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYrQMoOBqaI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b372p4e9fRM
Are you serious?
Yes, I’m serious.. However, I like that you keep mentioning all your WvW knowledge, based on YouTube videos..
Ever heard of tactical advantage and usage of your environment? As a ranged ranger, I won’t join in the blob.. And I’ll probably take out the ranged pet (spider)..
You don’t see mesmers or so rushing into a zerg either.. And (most) elementalists will also keep as far as possible away from the enemy blob, while doing their dmg..
You are such a smart guy aren’t you?
I don’t consider myself to be stupid, that’s true.. But no point in playing the IQ game against you, that’s clear..
I know what “micro-bullkitten” means. The devs like using complicated words to describe the ideal game that exists only in their heads.
Quote was from Wikipedia.. Just wanted to point out that the definiton of micromanagement is perfectly applicable when mentioning pets and their management..
Yes mr.pro commander
Haha, that cracked me up..
I basically only use f2 and pet swap and sometimes f3 since in pvp (the only game mode i play) you are forced to play on points or close to them. I can keep my stupid pet alive just by swapping it or, if I have to defend or contest a point and the aoe is extreme, my pet is dead even if I keep it passive. In pve and wvw is a bit different and ye I call back my pet more often, still this is not micromanagement and there is basically no skill at all behind that. Lol I can’t even keybind my active/passive button.
Err, what? PvP, the only game mode you play.. And then later on you mention PvE and WvW..
I don’t see any reason why you would keybind the active/passive toggle? Just put your pet on passive by default and hit F1 when you want it to attack? Also, if the AoE is that extreme and your pet is dying (while on passive, so standing close to you), have you ever tried moving?
Also mr. commander when i play wvw kitten (usually on my guardian cos I can spam things and aoe even better as a guardian) the aoe and zerg is often so massive the stupid ranger pet would be dead even if kept passive.
Once again: If your pet is on passive and it’s still getting hit by AoE, have you tried getting out of the AoE circle yourself?
You are just trying to see micromanagement (wtf is this? It reminds me of some economy bullkitten) and active play where there is just passive play and spam.
“micromanagement is a management style whereby a manager closely observes or controls the work of subordinates or employees”
Ranger keeping an eye on the health of his pet, recalling it when needed.. Yeah, micromanagement, my friend..
Might be a silly question, but asking it nevertheless: Do you only encounter disconnect from Guild Wars (while other internet applications are still working on your computer)? Or is it your entire network that drops out (thus exiting GW and other Internet appliances)?
The search option is completely kittened up, you’re certainly not the only one.. :-)
Hmmz, isn’t this normal behaviour?
No idea how exactly the AI works, but when I’m starting to capture a camp (WvW), I’ll send in my pet first. It does the first hits, then I hop in and start doing some ranged mayhem. And miraculously: Most of the mobs will turn to me (even those that I’m not hitting at that time).
(However, when a melee class is coming to you because of aggro, just cripple it and it should go back to your pet – mobs will not keep cripple-chasing you, they want to do dmg as well)
Man I agree with everything you said but I’d like to correct one point:
All the top tier rangers would still play with pets because positioning the pet and yourself can give you better spike damage, overall damage is better, you get pet F2 skills …
But a lot of rangers would find this trait interesting because they are not on the same level of micromanaging their pet as the top ones … so this would greatly enhanced their gameplayThere’s no micromanagement in this stupid pet mechanic we are forced into. You have got just one broken f2 ability. Most of the times you can literally forget about your pet while the f2 is on cd. If you are on a point defending or attacking your stupid pet is going to die anyway with all the aoe spammed around. That’s why they implemented this absurd pet swapping thing. They realized this pet mechanic doesn’t work at all in a game like this but, instead of fixing/reworking/removing this kitten they just tried to clumsily modify it.
Errmm.. There is micro-management actually.. Or are you a ranger that only uses F2?
(I will recall (F3) my pet to me when I see it getting hit hard (by AoE or whatever) and I can’t swap. Once it’s regenerated, I’ll send it back in (F1).. ==> Micro-management)
thank you guys for all your help and advice.i rolled a ranger its @ lvl 10 and having fun
Glad to hear! Have fun with it!
And this will probably be moved to the correct forums:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/guilds/recruitment
Well, if you indeed stick to the starting location of your race (for Humans: Queensdale, Sylvari: Caledon Forest, …), then you’ll encounter indeed hearts/events that are for a bit higher level (starting areas are for lvl 1-15).
Advice here: Go check out the starting areas of the other classes.. You can take an asura gate in your homecity to Lion’s Arch, and from there you can take an asura gate from the portal plaza to another homecity (and from there on you can enter the starting area of that city).
Just do the hearts/events that are for your level (or below), once the level is too high, move to another area and carry on.. And of course, don’t forget to head back to those areas from time to time (when you gained some levels)..
But then, you are a ranger :/
I’m truly offended by that quote.. :p
I have a solution
Come to JQ
Your ideas were noted. Thank you for your feedback.
This is some interesting English.. :/
Just make all dungeons for solo so no one will complain and don’t waist time to finding group. This is a main problem.
You are complaining that GW2 isn’t a true MMO in your opinion and you come here with the solution “to make dungeons solo”?
Seems to me that there is more wrong with you than only the English.. Or I am completely misinterpreting your post..
But in conclusion dungeons a bugged and party system is bugged. Ant it last since they released game.
You do know there is more to GW2 than dungeons, right?
Agree on the fact that the party system needs some work.. But if you really like to complain about it, try doing some WvW with a party.. Then you’ll see how completely kittened it is.. :p
Meh, I don’t have any problems with spirit rangers at all.. Just keep ranged, AoE them (and their spirits), and get in for the kill..
Spirit Rangers is just the cheese nowadays, like 6-ling rush was in Starcraft II.. But remember, every cheese has its counter
for any of those ArenaNet employees that are hanging around the forums, feel free to answer “no comment/can’t answer”.
Haha, nice.. You know them good!
Even my guildies laugh if I play on my ranger
Wow, sounds like a cool guild.. :/
“I wanna get a reward without doing anything?”
What the hell is wrong with some people..
To tell you the truth i’m scared to roll a ranger after what i’ve read.I mean the ranger is that bad that it would get kicked from a group in dungeon…
Don’t be scared because there are so many QQ rangers out there.. It is a fun class to play.. And a group that kicks a party member because he/she is that specific class, isn’t worth the hassle anyways..
Don’t get me wrong i don’t like face rolls i want some challenge in a class to learn and get better at it but still i need from you to help me with some info.
The learning curve of a ranger is higher than (for example) thief. But this is one of the great things when learning to play your ranger: You feel very satisfied when you accomplish something with it..
Can i roll a ranger and get the full experience of gw2( except the pvp , maybe i’ll try it) without being pushed away just because i’m a ranger?
Yes! Did all the dungeons, farmed fractals, spend ages in WvW, occassionally PvP, participate in some PvE carnivals, … it all works nicely with a ranger..
Once again: groups that push out a ranger because he is a ranger are bad groups.
Troll Unguent I use most of the time, since I have no stationary playstyle and can’t be bothered to assist my enemy in where he has to put down his AoE..
The only time I would use Healing Spring, is when running in a small group and we are in dire need of a water field..
Pets can only revive themselves out of combat, and take around 9 seconds to revive.
The moment you can stow your pet, stow it.. It’s insta-rezzed when getting in combat again
Just wanted to add..
But Devon has said new stuffs on the way…
As he is saying since the release of the game last year..
Off peak hours? In a world-wide MMORPG, I like to think that doesn’t exist..
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