Guild Wars 2

Brigg.6189:

Actually I think this is going to be very strong against warrior, mostly for rupting the short CD burst skills. Interrupting combustive and earthshaker will make the war nearly useless, and vulnerable to condis.

Stances and healing signet would like to say hi to you….

Really doubt it, think about it, it would only show even more the balance issues that pvp has, and it would be a kitten storm on the forums QQ even more about it

So I have to level my character now so I dont have to pay for them?

LightningBlaze.4913:

Ugruk.4069:

cheese.4739:

Ugruk.4069:

LightningBlaze.4913:

Ugruk.4069:

ThiBash.5634:

EvilSnowflake.1453:

In other words, if another class will always do a job better then the Elementalist, why would one ever be used?

Because they can do multiple jobs at the same time.

Lol you wish, you are the “jack of none”

Only some players are the “jack of none” not the profession.

Do you even spvp? Are you serious?

Hi, Staff Ele here, I’ve hit (and held for a couple of weeks) top 200 soloq with a hybrid build that could do a decent amount of everything. Consistently ranked within the top 1k, currently 525 or something (though right now I’m messing around with Zerker Staff and really enjoying wreaking havoc).

Come back and tell me that Ele is jack of none once you get up to, say, #600 in either leaderboard playing any build with any class. If you can’t do it with anything else, it’s unsurprising that you can’t succeed with Ele, and this is a l2p issue on your part rather than a problem with the Ele as a profession.

(Woo, I’m being an elitist kitten by spouting out my meaningless ranks! And feeding trolls who can’t even play well! Go me!)

That’s why all the high ranked teams play one….. oops, guess not, show me the build and a video would love to see all that action and effectiveness in game

There are high ranked team with eles in their group. Why would he bother on showing you a build and video when your experience with the ele is negative in the first place. Ultimately, it won’t help you become a better player.

Teach me man, show me what teams use an ele without being babysitted every game, show me the true jack of all trades you say you are, please remember im a noob, show me the way…

Stop being so agressive asking those tough questions!

Im trying to fix my computer!

It’s your own kitten faul! You should have seen it comming 1,5 years ago! Shouldnt even touch spvp to be honest….

cheese.4739:

Ugruk.4069:

LightningBlaze.4913:

Ugruk.4069:

ThiBash.5634:

EvilSnowflake.1453:

In other words, if another class will always do a job better then the Elementalist, why would one ever be used?

Because they can do multiple jobs at the same time.

Lol you wish, you are the “jack of none”

Only some players are the “jack of none” not the profession.

Do you even spvp? Are you serious?

Hi, Staff Ele here, I’ve hit (and held for a couple of weeks) top 200 soloq with a hybrid build that could do a decent amount of everything. Consistently ranked within the top 1k, currently 525 or something (though right now I’m messing around with Zerker Staff and really enjoying wreaking havoc).

Come back and tell me that Ele is jack of none once you get up to, say, #600 in either leaderboard playing any build with any class. If you can’t do it with anything else, it’s unsurprising that you can’t succeed with Ele, and this is a l2p issue on your part rather than a problem with the Ele as a profession.

(Woo, I’m being an elitist kitten by spouting out my meaningless ranks! And feeding trolls who can’t even play well! Go me!)

That’s why all the high ranked teams play one….. oops, guess not, show me the build and a video would love to see all that action and effectiveness in game

Whit will soon be contacted by A-net to be hired and join Grouch on their ranks, just wait and see!

The question is rank points alone don’t give jack, and the ability to only get something when you rank up means it is even worse to get something palpable (wich really isnt because you wont get rewards retroactively)

Lue.6538:

google.3709:

Progression felt too slow, specially for those who played casually!
a dedicated loyal PvP player would have taken some crazy ammount of time (like 5 years) to achieve rank 80!

Now they made it so it’s realistic for casual/Hotjoin heroes to progress faster and
Catch up with those loyal dedicated duumb players who actually spent thousands of hours actually playing games for which they were not rewarded for!

It was apparent all along that the rank system would recieve an increase in gain.. IMO people should’ve seen this coming and waited with ranking up. They chose to invest time and thats their own fault.

A-net chill plz go

Doesn’t matter, we are too small of a sample to be heard by Allie and the rest…

So why aren’t the chest rewards retroactive?

I mean WvW players got them so I don’t understant, it IS a bug right?

Brigg.6189:

You know, back in my day people pvp’d just because it was fun. Maybe I’m getting old.

Why are you on the foruns old timer? Back to pvp man! Go enjoy and have fun!

ellesee.8297:

Ugruk.4069:

Makes perfect sense, oh wait…. just one teeny tiny detail: There isnt actually any kind of balance in spvp, where the kitten is the fun in getting steamrolled by facerollers playing OP classes?

this is not news. it’s been this way for a long time. why do you play something you don’t enjoy? for the rewards? the pvp rewards? you kidding?

You dont get it, I was a kitten for having hope , just that…
And at least while I waited I could actually get decent skins and level points for pve now, you cant even get that, so you literally do PVP for nothing

LightningBlaze.4913:

Ugruk.4069:

ThiBash.5634:

EvilSnowflake.1453:

In other words, if another class will always do a job better then the Elementalist, why would one ever be used?

Because they can do multiple jobs at the same time.

Lol you wish, you are the “jack of none”

Only some players are the “jack of none” not the profession.

Do you even spvp? Are you serious?

MasterGuruu.8345:

Ugruk.4069:

But there isnt anything competitive in getting steamrolled by mouthbreathers playing overpowered classes…. there is nothing even close to balance in pvp, and now you can even entertain yourself by fetching new skins so…

Haha mouth breathers.

Im not here to discuss balance because im still new to the meta. But I do know that I am going to learn an OP class (if they are truly OP) and steamroll everyone else. If I can get destroyed, then I can also do equal destroying.

What? Play warrior, can you press kitten that is off cooldown? Repeat=Win

MasterGuruu.8345:

Mrbig.8019:

Do you know what i like to do ?

I like to PvP ( with my friends or alone) against people of my same skill level. I also like to compete for the best ( Leaderboard rank) and maybe earn something.

This cannot be achieved because:

Leaderboard is broken
No rewards for playing at high level
No rewards for keeping on playing at that level

Sum these 3 and you understand why no one wants to form teams and truing playing competitively.

This brings to no competition.

this brings to me having no fun.

This is aNet fault.

And this patch made things even worse, reason why i rage.

yeah right now it has flaws. everyone akownledges that. If however, the new system gets put in place and exponentially increases the popularity and competition of sPvP. would the wait time be worth it?

The removal of glory was happening.. everyone was told and should have been aware if it mattered to them, it wasnt a secret. the changing of gold earned from a win is also skewed, but it is much easier to get gear in pvp than pve. making the gold you would have earned obselete.

I agree with meichor.7809 about just enjoying the game.

also if you are worried about getting steam rolled make a team of half decent players and join team Q. You will win matches and make friends in the proccess. which would be good prep for the new updates coming out that we all hope will boost the popularity of PvP

It’s about the classes not the players, if it was that simple we wouldnt even be on the forum we would be having fun in-game…

Thedenofsin.7340:

Ugruk.4069:

brannigan.9831:

Lol, I love this feature patch bs from the white knights. It will end up being disappointing. Just keep letting yourself be strung along. Keep letting them fool you that the fix for pvp is right around the corner. Don’t you understand yet they do not have enough resources committed to pvp and never will? They can have all the good intentions in the world but it doesn’t matter because they don’t have the resources. They do what management says.

Finally someone that isnt a total kitten, they are just capitalizing on the no subscription fee and take all the time in the world, and even if the pvp community leaves it doesnt make much difference on their wallets, because we dont use the store like the pve/wvw players, so we are “dead weight” basically

If PvP is dead weight and WvW/PVE is doing just fine with the professions as-is, then that means the Balance Team and PvP teams are also dead weight…

:)

They made it specially for you need man, you welcome!

More new features comming (“soon”)

ellesee.8297:

Ugruk.4069:

So there is literally no point in playing the game until the new patch hits?

you could play for fun. weird idea i know shouldn’t have said anything. bry i’ll fight you in counter strike.

Makes perfect sense, oh wait…. just one teeny tiny detail: There isnt actually any kind of balance in spvp, where the kitten is the fun in getting steamrolled by facerollers playing OP classes?

Hehehe 2 weeks, you wish it was THAT soon :P

But there isnt anything competitive in getting steamrolled by mouthbreathers playing overpowered classes…. there is nothing even close to balance in pvp, and now you can even entertain yourself by fetching new skins so…

The real question is who is going to pvp until the next “big patch of dissapointment” hit

meichor.7809:

Ugruk.4069:

meichor.7809:

The reward IS the GOLD. Once they merge pvp armor with pve armor, it’s ALL buyable/craftable with relationship to GOLD.

getting the big picture?

Gold is OK…

That thing you can make 10 times faster in pve?

That an adjustment ANET has to make to increase the reward for it to attract more players to PvP and play to win! Once GOLD is involved, people start trying harder. Because GOLD can get MORE than just PvP rewards.

I want to “be leaf”

OP Wars 2

ThiBash.5634:

EvilSnowflake.1453:

In other words, if another class will always do a job better then the Elementalist, why would one ever be used?

Because they can do multiple jobs at the same time.

Lol you wish, you are the “jack of none”

You just have to alt tab into something else while you wait for the loss <.<

You guys are the definition of being static and unresponsive, regarding game changes, “talking about them” doesn’t really count to be honest…

meichor.7809:

The reward IS the GOLD. Once they merge pvp armor with pve armor, it’s ALL buyable/craftable with relationship to GOLD.

getting the big picture?

Gold is OK…

That thing you can make 10 times faster in pve?

muscarine.5136:

How does one retrieve those ? I’m at rank 58 but no chest or anything.

You gotta level up first your rank! How delightfull! Best decision ever!

Allie Murdock.8152:

Just because it doesn’t come exactly when you want it, doesn’t mean we won’t do it, and it doesn’t mean we aren’t working on it!

Coming “soon”

brannigan.9831:

Lol, I love this feature patch bs from the white knights. It will end up being disappointing. Just keep letting yourself be strung along. Keep letting them fool you that the fix for pvp is right around the corner. Don’t you understand yet they do not have enough resources committed to pvp and never will? They can have all the good intentions in the world but it doesn’t matter because they don’t have the resources. They do what management says.

Finally someone that isnt a total kitten, they are just capitalizing on the no subscription fee and take all the time in the world, and even if the pvp community leaves it doesnt make much difference on their wallets, because we dont use the store like the pve/wvw players, so we are “dead weight” basically

So there is literally no point in playing the game until the new patch hits?

Would like some answers too will “veterans” get shafted again?

Lordrosicky.5813:

cerberus.1937:

Lordrosicky.5813:

cerberus.1937:

Justin ODell.9517:

I can’t wait to delete the old PvP servers!

Chaith.8256 is right though, a lot of those changes were in response to what the playerbase wanted at the time.

Maybe pvp shouldn’t be balanced on what the pve players want then

name 1 pvp player that wanted glory gone, pvp only armor, or rewards gone in favor of gold only reward system.

If you can name one pvp player that would favor gold they wouldn’t be a pvp player since pvp players couldn’t make any gold (less selling dyes and such) till it was just added a short while ago. This change seems heavily in favor of the pve masses (aka pve players and tp flippers already sitting on large masses of gold) instead of helping the pvp players. In fact this next patch is a big downgrade to all pvp players why all you are doing is taking away their rewards and not fixing anything…………….and you wonder why long time pvp players are leaving

I am a PvP only player and I would rather gold over glory any day of the week. I think removing glory is a great thing to do. The only way to make use out of glory is to do about 1 million clicks. I cba with this because it is lame and BS.

So speak for yourself. I know many players (who pvp and don’t use the forums) who couldn’t care less about glory being removed. And if they do care then they are happy about it because the current system is horrendous.

if you are only interested in gold then you are not a pvp player because pvp didn’t have anything to do with gold until they tried to flood pvp with pve players with the lure of gold only thing that pvp rewarded was glory, boosters, crafting mats, and reward chests for over a year.

also if you cant see how gold favors the pve champ train and tp flipper masses then its time to open your eyes or try explaining how pvp players have so much more gold than pve players.

Maybe its just me but I feel their time would be better spent fixing the many things broken in pvp already rather than trying to delete everything pvp players attained over the last year and a half or don’t you remember when they tried to delete ranks that failed now they are deleting everything else in favor of gold yah…….

Stop just beating on anet for no reason and calling them out for changing something which SUCKED. Glory SUCKED. Totally sucked. You find me a pvp player who enjoyed getting rank reward chests with all the clicking required to salvage all that bs.

And don’t tell me I am not a pvp player. I don’t even use skins because that kitten doesn’t matter to me whatsoever dude. It is all pve nonesense. Customising my character for pvp? Who cares. It is a joke, I am here to fight people and have some fun/social experience/competition. I am not here to play “dress the barbie” with my avatar.

Removing glory is awesome because glory is just grind. Clicking salvage, blah blah blah.

Then why do you want gold?

Kibbles.9813:

To kill a Healing Signet Warrior you need either Poison or more than one person supplying DPS. This is what makes Hambow Warriors so attractive in sPvP; you get a profession with a one-button AoE point-spanning fire field, constant high passive health regeneration, AoE stun ability, temporary condition immunity on demand, temporary direct damage immunity on demand, active CC immunity on demand, passive CC immunity triggered by initial application, Stability on demand and respectable damage output. Then you throw in a short-CD Condition Cleansing and Boon Application via Lyssa Runes and end up with the mess we have now.

I’m personally excited for the new sPvP game modes, as it’ll give other professions a chance to shine outside of the “stand on a point and outlast pressure” game we’ve had for the past year and a half. A lot of the Warrior abilities won’t change fundamentally in design since ArenaNet seems set on their implementation in their current form, so instead of a profession-based power creep we’ll have a greater variety of scenarios allowing strengths and weaknesses to match against each other.

Dont worry man, wait for them nerfs!!!! 8% less on signet will bring them back down, you will see!

Prysin.8542:

Gotejjeken.1267:

Yeah, I’m fairly sure no one internally wants to go near Ranger because it is not ‘fun’ and thus does not deserve to be played or balanced properly.

ironically, as a player, i find the ranger more fun and engaging then the other professions, simply because you have to think when playing it, you cannot just mindlessly walk around the place spamming 11111111111111 F1 1111111 F1 54111111111111111 F1 411

kitten it was hard to get pass all that sarcasm xD

Implying they aren’t getting paid to do it <.< it is their job you know they dont run a charity. But Go ahead delete this post too, them forum skillz

Meglobob.8620:

Well I have been using my glory boosters for months now, constantly have 6 hrs+ stacked up and I still have loads left.

Also, its funny, the last 2 chests I opened, guess what they had in?

Yep, glory boosters…gotta laugh…

Keep the rank points increase till the new build too and give the poor hotjoin players a bonus. Those are your new players/casuals, they are never going to be good enough for solo/team queue. Why do you treat them so bad?

Because they are bad? What is this mentality “everybody wins even when they lose” then what the hell is the point of competition

Chapell.1346:

Ugruk.4069:

Carpboy.7145:

Im gonna get hated for this but basically

1. A brain

So tell me can you kill a thief using an elementalist, would love to hear from you again after.

Thank you

Its called Skillfull brain macro eles

On topic, if class Mesmer and Necro
if ingame skill Confusion and Condi bomb.

So cheating is the suggested method? Thanks

Won’t happen because “reasons”…

Thief is a class of extremes it either does extremly well against some classes and just destroys them or gets steam rolled really badly, thats why you see the 2 sides arguing “omg so op” and the other saying they should learn to play.

If you are playing Solo queue get good, if not roll another match on hot join

Carpboy.7145:

Im gonna get hated for this but basically

1. A brain

So tell me can you kill a thief using an elementalist, would love to hear from you again after.

Thank you

From what I understood, they have limited resources in terms of developers, so they can’t even split the skills from pve and pvp, and make the necessary adjustments and balance.
Because pve players would cry so hard that they have to kill the boss in an extra 30 seconds, saying the game is now unplayable for X class.

And since the pve/wvw population is way, way higher than the spvp one (and makes way more reveneu through the store) you get shafted.

Thats why they are so unassertive with balance patches, and you get this terrible crap Spvp meta, and the nervous girlly giggles when announcing the changes, because they do know it’s crap…

Bazzoong.7145:

Another pathetic D/D thread by someone who obviously has no clue about how that set works.

Get it in your head D/D has higher in combat stealth uptime, CnD is easy to land and does very good damage.

Dancing Dgger is a protictile finisher that hits up to 4 targets, learn to use your teams combo fields.

Just more inconsistent and mindless complaining, you hate D/P and love D/D then go on about every aspect of D/P being better and D/D being inferior.
All you want is D/P utility on top of the high damage burst combos of D/D.
You will never get that because it would be stupidly overpowered.

You probably play the wrong proffesion.

What? CnD and Backstab, there it is your rotation on dagger dagger….

D/P IS superior for pvp, blind field+teleport+daze+heartseeker vs what? Dancing dagger combo field rofl…

What class does elementalist really hard counter again?

I mean the same way thief does, I dont mind counter classes but it has got to be a global thing to provide diversity, not the kick the puppy in the face state that elementalist is right now

Lordrosicky.5813:

Ugruk.4069:

I was going to say I agreed with everything, but I got to the elementalist part and you just went full potato there…
Play an elementalist and see how “easy it is to just go air and ping stuff”, to be honest it may be one of the few that actually requires some brains, with cooldown timing and trickshots to land your skills. and still be underwelming when compared to the rest…

But yeah ,game is mainly built for casuals that like to zerg npcs/players and beat on gates typing “PUUUUUUUUUSHHHHHHH” while creaming their pants

Pretty sure casuals don’t enjoy people being immune to everything they do. This game isn’t made for casuals. The meta isn’t made for casuals. The meta is just bad for everyone.

What exactly are the hard metabuilds for anyone with little to no experience in spvp?

No, no,no!!!! THINK OF THE CASULZ GAIZ!!! THEY SHOULD WIN IN SPVP TOO EVERYONE GETS A MEDAL!!!!