Guild Wars 2

Define “soon” in a measurable way that we can grasp (ex: using weeks,months or years), thanks

I was going to say I agreed with everything, but I got to the elementalist part and you just went full potato there…
Play an elementalist and see how “easy it is to just go air and ping stuff”, to be honest it may be one of the few that actually requires some brains, with cooldown timing and trickshots to land your skills. and still be underwelming when compared to the rest…

But yeah ,game is mainly built for casuals that like to zerg npcs/players and beat on gates typing “PUUUUUUUUUSHHHHHHH” while creaming their pants

Leeto.1570:

Ugruk.4069:

Leeto.1570:

style.6173:

Leeto.1570:

So because you held far as decap engi against bad team it is OK that warriors go to farpoint and die 5 times because “they so OP and kill errything”?
Is this just to brag or you really dont understand how incompetent player going far point is bad for team?

You and the OP are both arguing the extreme cases. The actual answer is somewhere in the middle. Far point should be pushed depending on what is going on in the map. Teams need to adjust strategy based on what is happening.

You should always tell people not to go far. Why? Because bad players think they will be cool lone wolfs and gonna carry team by going far and either fighting 1v1 without decapping or just die.
Once player has played enough this game he will understand himself when to go far and when not and noone will ever tell him “dont go far” because every time he goes there it will either get decapped, fully capped or he is gonna kill someone.
But please kitten dont encourage new players to go far cause people dont deserve to loose million times till someone learns when to go far and when not.
Same with these “decap engi so OP”, you even know how many decap engis i kill on daily basis that think they are gonna be white knights and carry their team by going far? Do they understand that they will not get far after i kill them and help their team on other point? No they just go and die on far 5 more times.

You kill them with what exactly?

I play power necro mostly in soloque, and bad decap engi is kitten easy because most of my burst is autoattack, ye i need 2nd player to kill good decap engi but bad ones who just randomly dodge around are super easy.
The d/d power spec i play really counters decap engi, getting him to 25% is quite easy with unblockable chill + immobilize + corrupt boon, and then when he is immune to condis i just finish him with either my autoattack or my 2 channeled burst attack.
Only way he can survive me is with good timed dodges and knockbacks but very few engis actually know how to play it.

Ahh, but still you can kill almost all classes if they are bad (with a few exceptions).

Will try d/d istead of d/warhorn, can you PM me the build please?

Pyriall.5027:

What are you going on about? The developers don’t pvp here either…which can be shortened to: “The developers don’t pvp”.

Pretty much this

Pyriall.5027:

Ugruk.4069:

People still haven’t figured out you have more hammer skills than dodges available… “Hurr durr dodge all the things!!! Not OP”

Well, you know you can cc them right…wait. Well, you know you can kite them with chill, cripple, and immobilize right…wait. Well, you know you can play a warrior yourself right?

LeL, “but, but… I play one and feel like a god it’s not the class, I AM a pvp god, it’s not OP at all!!! Right guys?…. Guys?”

Leeto.1570:

style.6173:

Leeto.1570:

So because you held far as decap engi against bad team it is OK that warriors go to farpoint and die 5 times because “they so OP and kill errything”?
Is this just to brag or you really dont understand how incompetent player going far point is bad for team?

You and the OP are both arguing the extreme cases. The actual answer is somewhere in the middle. Far point should be pushed depending on what is going on in the map. Teams need to adjust strategy based on what is happening.

You should always tell people not to go far. Why? Because bad players think they will be cool lone wolfs and gonna carry team by going far and either fighting 1v1 without decapping or just die.
Once player has played enough this game he will understand himself when to go far and when not and noone will ever tell him “dont go far” because every time he goes there it will either get decapped, fully capped or he is gonna kill someone.
But please kitten dont encourage new players to go far cause people dont deserve to loose million times till someone learns when to go far and when not.
Same with these “decap engi so OP”, you even know how many decap engis i kill on daily basis that think they are gonna be white knights and carry their team by going far? Do they understand that they will not get far after i kill them and help their team on other point? No they just go and die on far 5 more times.

You kill them with what exactly?

lmperdigao.2567:

style.6173:

@OP:

Are you serious? Spirit rangers are one of the OP specs right now (every class has one)

Please tell me what Elementalist spec is OP right now.

It’s the re-roll spec, basically you re-roll a warrior and win

You are on the Spvp forums, and only show to mediocre fights in spvp seems legit the build

People still haven’t figured out you have more hammer skills than dodges available… “Hurr durr dodge all the things!!! Not OP”

Frenk.5917:

Ugruk.4069:

But what does that matter you dont ever need to enter those arenas it doesnt make any sense whinning about it or the players inside

I care about that because I personally think that people inside those ARE the SPVP community. I don’t find Helseth or Sensotix fighting in Hot Joins, I find them in 1v1 arenas.

So you care about what they say? My point still stands

Sarlack.4096:

Ugruk.4069:

Sarlack.4096:

Ugruk.4069:

Sarlack.4096:

Granted, I only goof in HJ for Daily as I prefer WvW, but I play a Ranger non condition non spirit build and I have a folder FULL of Screenies of people either kittening me out for being “OP” or giving me props…just sayin’

Lemme guess, rampage as one and auto-atack to death?

To OP, bad thieves suck good ones destroy the oposition, spirit rangers are good at staying on 1 point and press auto-atack

I don’t run RaO ; ) and if I only AA with GS/LB I would be toast….but nice try.

Now you got me curious, show me pl0x

http://tinyurl.com/pzzca27

Raven stays out until I need the Wolf’s fear to clear a point/stomp/relieve pressure.

High Boon duration/Multiple heal sources/Perma Fury if a frequent Weapon Swapper (which I am for the sigils of energy)

Will try out, thanks man

Frenk.5917:

Ugruk.4069:

I think if you go to those 1v1 servers, you are trying to escape the meta, not exactly face more of the same crap mouthbreathing 1 button smash I win so-pro-e-sports etc…

Exactly because of what you said here Eles and shatter mesmers (currently outside the meta) are the only “allowed” builds. But you can not escape the meta with only 2 classes available. Any kind of thief is op. Warrior is op. Necro is op. Medguard? Op aswell.

Well, have fun in those “only Fresh air vs Shatter” arenas, because that’s what you are asking for. Those are not 1v1 arenas. Those are Fresh air vs Shatter arenas.

But what does that matter you dont ever need to enter those arenas it doesnt make any sense whinning about it or the players inside

OMG! Im soo good look at me tanking all they throw at me with my stances while I dont even have to bother to cast a heal! Im so good!

L2P another crap that isnt utterly broken

Sarlack.4096:

Ugruk.4069:

Sarlack.4096:

Granted, I only goof in HJ for Daily as I prefer WvW, but I play a Ranger non condition non spirit build and I have a folder FULL of Screenies of people either kittening me out for being “OP” or giving me props…just sayin’

Lemme guess, rampage as one and auto-atack to death?

To OP, bad thieves suck good ones destroy the oposition, spirit rangers are good at staying on 1 point and press auto-atack

I don’t run RaO ; ) and if I only AA with GS/LB I would be toast….but nice try.

Now you got me curious, show me pl0x

There wont be nerfs for the warriors, how many of them are playing WvW? Way more then the ones that play spvp.

I guess you never played competitive games? Someone bursted that goody good bubble, fileld with warm and cuddles?

It is pretty standard around all games, and to be honest gw2 isnt no where close to the rest, no one cares about your feelings, and people get frustrated to be so dependent on winning with team-play where there isnt actually none.

Sarlack.4096:

Granted, I only goof in HJ for Daily as I prefer WvW, but I play a Ranger non condition non spirit build and I have a folder FULL of Screenies of people either kittening me out for being “OP” or giving me props…just sayin’

Lemme guess, rampage as one and auto-atack to death?

To OP, bad thieves suck good ones destroy the oposition, spirit rangers are good at staying on 1 point and press auto-atack

I think if you go to those 1v1 servers, you are trying to escape the meta, not exactly face more of the same crap mouthbreathing 1 button smash I win so-pro-e-sports etc…

The fix is to stop playing on 1v1 servers or make your own with your cute rules.

I dont even play (just watch) on those servers, just giving my thoughts

Stop being so casual countless…..

Joking aside, you took the words out of my mouth, the fluide combat is the only thing that kept me playing too

Cynz.9437:

that have been already discussed btw

but as side note: dodging thief does 0 dmg, while dodging mesmer does dmg through ai/shatter…

That is the silliest counter argument I have ever seen

What class is really bad at WvW it is just beating walls and putting aoe circles on top of enemy zergs

Play with an elementalist please

Axelwarrior.9084:

I love it.
The Skyhammer is a brilliant addition which keeps you on our toes at all time.
The throwing-out-of-map part is also absolutely hilarious and fun, whether you’re the one knocking someone out or the other way around.

One of my favorite maps, really.

Enjoy your warrior

Justin ODell.9517:

Horo.7395:

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Rank does not necessary correlate to skill, it is most closely correlated with time invested in the game. Time spent correlates with skill, but it has diminishing returns.

Roster shuffling, to be consistent with matchmaking, currently only uses MMR and ignores rank.

This will be changing, but we aren’t ready to talk about the details. I will say that we have definitely included a lot community feedback from past threads, and I believe it’s a substantial improvement. I’m definitely looking forward to another round of community collaboration.

Especially with all the skyhammer farmers going around, rank means nothing at all

Dont bother, I just rerolled a power necro and kill stuff by auto atacking in death shrowd (not even joking unfortunatly) with elementalist you never go into a fight thinking “this matchup is easy” it is always an uphill battle for no reward at all…

It’s always like you said trying to not get recked by “pros” auto-atacking in the “pro” builds with minimal effort

You understand that these changes are not to benefit you but to get more players from WvW and pve?

They dont really care about the small population of players/masochists that actually played pvp this long.

You cant put it right next to shatterstone and dragons tooth, on the “great skills to never use in pvp”

People seriously need to stop thinking WvW as real pvp, it’s literally fighting pve heros green arrows, hitting walls and doing AoE on huge blobs of players with no gear equality

It just happens that they would have to much work to split pve/wvw and spvp, because they dont have the resources to do it.

Otherwise it would be very easly fixed without bothering the cashcow players, but since it does you dont get the changes you need but the changes they can give without disturbing the players that actually give them profits.

You are afraid of nerfs on the two game modes where the nerfs dont really matter

You play a light armor character and expect to facetank crap like a guardian… Go play tick-tack-toe, can’t get more simple then that for your abilities.

If you die in PVE YOU SCREWED UP period….

If you die in pve it is your own fault sorry stop facetanking, you are not a guardian…

You dont, there saved you a lot of trouble and time wasting

To the people saying “omg the community is so toxic such entiled spoiled brats etc…”

I PAYED FOR THE GAME, I BOUGHT IT FOR THE PVP SYSTEM THEY ANNOUNCED!

IT IS NOT MY FAUL THEY CHOSE TO NOT USE A SUBSCIPTION FEE METHOD AND NOW ONLY CATTER TO WVW AND PVE BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY IS.

You go to the restaurant get an hamburger and it comes half eaten stinking and rubbed on the floor, you tell the management and they say “ohh we know we are trying to work it out… soon” and THEN comes the whight knight custumer, “Ohh such entitlement!! You eat what you get and just shut up,just like the rest of us!”

Slacked jaw mentality…

We will have to wait until A-net finds a way to make spvp profitable, otherwise you will get scraps and posts with “you guys should stop whinning we are doing everything in a near future” blah blah

If you have to ask then you dont need to…

Vylor.3276:

The only thing ele is “struggling” with are scrubs who cant play a class that requires skill. Sure, ele is behind the other classes, but not by much. Learn how to play ele, then talk about them being underpowered.

Teach me master, because mouthbreathing players playing OP classes can still kitten my kitten …

Super hard to play can’t you see no one even plays the class? It requires so much skill for so little reward it’s not even funny….

Sorry, my bad I thought you were talking about eles

Dagins.5163:

Marcos.3690:

Lies, lies, lies and more lies

Does it make me a liar, if I tell you I’m going to buy a new car, but few months later I fund studies for my son instead?

Did you buy the car? No? Then yes, you are a liar…

Laughing at people saying “thats not broken the thief didnt do any damage!!” You realize that he can basicaly become “immune” to all that you throw at and then Heal back up, and be back in thet game right? “Ohh but look at all that innitiative he wasted”, do you even play theif?

S/D just auto atacks for damage, go watch Sizer play and see that he only uses innitiative to dodge/teleport away, not doing damage…

The reason A-net hasn’t nerfed it yet is because no one would touch thief after that nerf, because they are worse than papper just like mesmers and eles.

The problem is that this crap is going to continue, PVP right now on this mode is ! punching bag/pinnata on the node and a dude trying to bash it until it drops dead to get the point, or die" because sorry im a bunker you arent suposed to kill bunkers unless we are at numerical disadvantage".

Pvp right now is stand still spam skills they cant cap, you win

Implying WvW isnt the cheese grounds of pvp, the one that cheeses the most with several buffs from foods and traits wins.

“Look mah I just critted for liek 12k in this nub, lel beds, when will they learn”
It’s gloryfied pve

The root of the problem is that the game isn’t split between PVE/WvW and PVP, so we got 2 diferent playstyles to cater, the casual ones of PVE/WvW and the “Hardcore” of PVP that is supossed to be more then spamming 1,2,3,4,5 switch, repeat….

PVE/WvW brings money, PVP doesn’t so that is the real root of the problem

Nooo guys stop saying that!! It’s all lies!! We are not even that good! Pl0z A-net dont listen to dis, no nerfin plezzzz… U nubs need to L2P fo realz

#reale-sprotz

Waiting for devs to post cat gifs….

Phaeton.9582:

Ugruk.4069:

Justin ODell.9517:

I just wanted to come in here and give you all this little kitty…

I hope he brightens your day and gives you cause for cheer.

This was all the confirmation I needed. At least now I know I shouldnt expect nothing from spvp.

..and I don’t expect to see decent grammar on these forums, but you don’t not hear me complaining…

And yet you understood completely what I meant…
I bet you triple checked your post just in case you missed an apostrophe.

Brown nosing will take you far in life.

Ps: Mandatory disclaimer, that english isn’t my native language

Justin ODell.9517:

I just wanted to come in here and give you all this little kitty…

I hope he brightens your day and gives you cause for cheer.

This was all the confirmation I needed. At least now I know I shouldnt expect nothing from spvp.

NOOOOOOOO DONT NERF THE WARRIOR THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!! WHAT WILL THEY PLAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!

DanyK.3842:

Ugruk.4069:

Lemme guess the skilled 11k eviscerate to the face sponsored by intelligence sigil?

Dat eviscerate is so hard to evade, like it has absolutely no tells. Especially if you have such knowledge about builds there’s no way you could see the weaponswap, energy sigil icon popping up or the leap animation. :P

So by that logic nothing is overpowered, 11k to the face while you used your dodges to avoid something else is perfectly fine… Ohh you played so nice to bad I got 11k in store just for you.

Inb4 learn to always dodge the evicerate, its bound to happen in the fight, its not like the warrior has 0 survivability and dies if he misses his burst like the scrub eles that just need to learn to play. No endurance and a weapon swap ready free 11k….

:PPPPPPPDDDD :XXXXXXX

Lemme guess the skilled 11k eviscerate to the face sponsored by intelligence sigil?