Guild Wars 2

Berzerk thief ele and mesmer.

Jae.5138:

oZii.2864:

Jae.5138:

s/d feels useless against condi engi’s not gonna lie

You probably need to go S/F because the /D will get you killed if you get close to the engi.

:( but if i’m defending a point and engi comes to take it, how do i not get close to him? (apart from not defending a point in the first place)

You don’t :/

Dodge? When he raises is hand for a little bit longer you dodge, and you avoid the hook.

It has been happening to me too, probably something to do with the targeting selected (instant or 2 key-presses)

Soo I wasn’t that bad afterall

Thank you for being so nice and constructive so cute

You just had to find a thief worse than you, both of you are pretty horrible.

Ok thanks

So I was just now doing a match with some randoms, and midgame we were all kicked out of it to the mists and the match just restarted from the begining with the same people and on the same teams for no aparent reason.

Im pretty sure it’s not intended.

XoXo

ellesee.8297:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here #1 Engi and world first rank 80!

I highly recommend Chaith’s might stacking power grenade build if you want to go power! Personally I think this is the power engi meta!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUp+qlcxELseNybBNyucGRWxn85AE0hC-TJxHwADeAAa2fAwFAQZZAA

Here is some footage of it in action against a condi Engineer from one of the best teams in NA! Sorry for the poor quality I have bad internet! http://www.twitch.tv/livskis/c/4108133 Warning! May contain foul language!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Do you copy paste all that Yahoo stuff or you type it everytime mate?

Vacations

Akeif.7491:

Locuz.2651:

Its not really a matter of skill but more about abusing mechanics (stealth + magnet pull for example).

Can’t you just dodge?

Braindead people should be easy to outsmart right?

There’s always a counter strategy… If a particular build is your weak points you gotta learn how to counter it right? Or I might be wrong.

I get you don’t enjoy this for whatever reason. But that doesn’t mean you have the rights to define the rules. PvP means players vs player. Each map have specifics you have to learn to deal with.

Locuz.2651:

….but more about cheese or get cheesed.

That sound like all form of PvP in all games to me…

1-You can dodge atacks that you can’t possibly now when they hit? You are really a boss.

2- Not really in the state of the game, they hardcounter you and that’s pretty much it.

3- Counter to immunities, wow you must be REALLY good.

4- Pvp Should be about outplaying you opponent with skill not being able to play a kittened overpowered spec and win due to balance issues.

Shhhhh it has been allways like that you just dont remember man, yeah “git good” nothing changed for mesmers after the patch you are all dreaming…

Sinister.5792:

RULES: Keep this thread civilised no kittens no doggies and definitely no quaggans

Elementalist
1. Diamond Skin
2. Written in stone
3. Stone heart
4. Signet of restoration

Teach me to hack so I can trait them all master.

Static.9841:

Ugruk.4069:

The patch wasn’t made for spvpers in mind, so you will never get the rewards corresponding to the time you wasted in spvp, but any changes are better than that crap we had before.

So basically it’s better than nothing

From a purely devil’s advocate point of view, how is it better? The reward tracks now give us 3 weapons and 1 armor skin with some mats (if you’re a pure PvPer, you probably won’t have use for anyway). Now, we used to be able to win a tournament match and get a chest which contained skins, earn glory to spend on skins, craft skins with PvP materials and so on. Now we get rewards at a much slower rate and everything is with PvE in mind, sort of counter-productive to PvP no? In effect, we’ve been given considerably less, so no, it’s not better than nothing.

Well the only thing you ever got was basically a few silver because you would eventually craft all the skins you could/want at the rank you were, taking you an eternity to get the skins I thought were cool (cultural etc). And a headache because " balance".

Now they have a bigger population for pvp so they can’t actually ignore it for 6 months straight (or I hope). And you get more kitten that can get you to do pve (eww I know).

That’s my PoV.

Krittz.6013:

JonSnow.5610:

Votes on removing capricorn: 0

Votes on removing Skyhammer: over 9000

Plsanetwhydowestillplaythismap

Because underwater combat is really imbalanced.
…and anyone can turn into a troll on Skyhammer (not class specific). :P

They removed it because they were lazy implementing the water weapons on the new build UI, Capricorn was already hotjoin only

T raw.4658:

Doesn’t matter when its same class vs same class.

Kinda does when the first player can hit for absurd amounts of damage due to crazy stats in WvW

holodoc.5748:

FuzzyRamen.4902:

PvE heroes should earn their skins such as legendary in PvP. All the players that are exclusively playing PvP gets nothing. As of now I spent a nice chunk of time got to rank 57 pre patch and in return now I have to spend transmutation charges to even put a piece of skin on.

You should have received at least 57 transmutation charges for free so I don’t see how that can present a problem.

Maybe he can’t make alts and change the clothes as he pleases? You know something that wasn’t a problem before?

HeadCrowned.6834:

Ugruk.4069:

HeadCrowned.6834:

OneManArmy.9732:

mm necro is one of the easiest build almost fully carried by minions AI. so why not? its rly good choice for newbies/pvers that never played pvp before.

Yeh sure, cuz necro is very good in PvE ^o). Dont talk about things you don’t know.
Further more there are some easier classes to play in PvP such as warrior and thief (lame class) and much necro’s dont play MM at all.

Lol what’s bad in pve? Please tell me what class is bad in PVE…

MM necro IS easy to play just check the combat log, most damage is done by the Minions, maybe you dont know what you are talking about?

Bad in PvE? For example when you do not get accepted in a dungeon party cuz you’re a necro. They are actually worse in PvE than the other classes also due to the max condi stacking etc. Further more I am not talking about MM necro’s, lots of necro’s do not play that build. MM necro’s are for certain classes easy to kill such as other necro’s, mesmers and ele’s. Their power IS their minions, so just destroy their minions first and they are doomed to die.

Unless they ask for a specific class/set I never seen that happen, it’s pve no one cares besides those tryhards (wich you wouldnt want to party anyway).

No one has time to kill all the minions + the necro and live, it’s a brain dead spec which shouldnt be even considered in spvp (really AI doing the work for you?) but since it gets the job done well enough, less capable people are bound to play it.

What’s wrong buddie? Can’t position youself against an invisible pull? Get good or reroll.

Golfhammer E-sports

The patch wasn’t made for spvpers in mind, so you will never get the rewards corresponding to the time you wasted in spvp, but any changes are better than that crap we had before.

So basically it’s better than nothing

Maybe use you head? You shouldn’t lose to an ele tbh.

Protip: Chill kills

T raw.4658:

Ask Caed how his fights with Xeviel went.

There are more WvW thieves that wrecked him as well.

In fact lots of the sPvP “pros” get wrecked when coming to WvW

While playing in spvp servers?

Bazzoong.7145:

The only thing “toxic” here are QQers, specifically elementelist QQers, glass eles can do the same numbers but they can do it to 5 players at once, they can cover the whole point with their AoE.

Cool story bro, you got more of those?

T raw.4658:

Ugruk.4069:

Scepter burst is cheesey, okeey,,,,

Macroable Hardware says otherwise

So everyone cheats now? Couldn’t that be said for every class? Strong logic <.<

Machine Gun

What does the axe in the off had provide for the build?

HeadCrowned.6834:

OneManArmy.9732:

mm necro is one of the easiest build almost fully carried by minions AI. so why not? its rly good choice for newbies/pvers that never played pvp before.

Yeh sure, cuz necro is very good in PvE ^o). Dont talk about things you don’t know.
Further more there are some easier classes to play in PvP such as warrior and thief (lame class) and much necro’s dont play MM at all.

Lol what’s bad in pve? Please tell me what class is bad in PVE…

MM necro IS easy to play just check the combat log, most damage is done by the Minions, maybe you dont know what you are talking about?

Spvp npcs aren’t the same pushovers as the pve ones :P

Yeah I love the hiding the ranks of people at the end just to avoid the threads in the forum xD, the last patch was made to bait pve players into spvp, now you have to wait for a good matchmaking system

Warlord.9074:

Was anyone expecting that new worthless for spvp grandmaster traits would give warriors new builds when warriors are still forced to invest 20 points in defense. AFAIK SPVP didn’t change at all for the warriors. Only things that changed were PVE.

Why do you need 20 in defense?

The shaft.

Kek, you guys mesmers can do it too with gs auto-atack!!! Nurf :P

Ahhhh, I thought I was the only one getting 1 shot, it does seem like the damage was buffed somehow.

The Kurt.2518:

The rewards are more than enough, if you’re playing PvP you’re supposed to do it for fun, getting rewards (about one reward per game, that’s a lot!) is just a bonus and some incentive for people to try PvP out in the first place

So if A-net removed every reward you would get from doing dungeons/wvw you would still do it right?

Scepter burst is cheesey, okeey,,,,

dancingmonkey.4902:

No, they didn’t get the shaft. It is just completely irrational in my opinion, to conclude that a zerker build should trump a condition build.

Why would you expect a build focused on damage, meaning with traits/skills built for DPS and not cleansing, while sacrificing all the health pool for DPS…….It is extremely simple minded in my opinion to assume that the three main meta builds are the only ways to go. Actually, I think building to the meta is sure indicator of a lack if skill and originality in a player. Heck, half the time if you use unique builds or builds outside of the meta, all of the meta band wagoners do not have the slightest clue how to react when they encounter you. Thus making their death relatively uncomplicated to bring to passing for them.

The problem isn’t zerkers, bunker, or condition builds, the problem is that there are enough players in the community that are stupid enough to think those are the only three build styles, or that following the meta means something. Got to love folks who actually think jumping off a bridge is the right thing to do, simply because every other clown is doing it.

Gee there sure are lot’s of game modes for all that diversity, the games aren’t totally based around keeping bunkers on points and having an OP solo class with bunker capabilities (coff engi) to get the far node, people go for most effective builds for the job not “it’s not that bad , it works sometimes”…

Kasei.8726:

Chilli.2976:

[…]
Some comments from PvE players: “I’m here to farm for the chests”, “I’m here for fun”, “I don’t care about losing, I just want my chest”[…]

How dare someone play a game for fun, this is blasphemy against the PvP gods!

So people that go to a specifically competitive game mode (spvp), that requires heavy team work, don’t deserve to be paired with of people with the same mindset?

Ill just go ruin your all pve fractal runs, and waste wvw resources etc etc, because “urr durr imma play fur fun I don’t need to listen to you im just here for the lootz”

roamzero.9486:

Pleurodesed.7625:

I run a support guardian with a build designed ENTIRELY to cleanse conditions.

Ironically I can face multiple berserkers at the time but a single proper terrormancer will make me kitten bricks.

Thats the way it should be ideally.

Berserker should counter condi
Condi counter bunker
Bunker counter zerker

Yeah but right now berzerkers get the shaft from both bunkers and condi

MightyMicah.7451:

In my opinion there are three things going on:
1. Experienced players are experimenting with new builds.
2. Lots of new PvE players are trying PvP for the first time.
3. All of the other classes have had various nerfs which in turn brought Ele up.

Pretty much this

I can live without 30 in arcane, I went 30 in water and 10 in arcane and 30 in air, using the glyph of renewal for the speed buff and for the extra condi removal in water from the regen, plus you get extra toughness and healing which is pretty good.

I don’t miss the on swap atunement buffs and I can switch to water get and not waste a dodge to activate evasive arcana for the heal.

Actually interrupting something meaningfull is quite hard in this game since there aren’t any cast bars, plus all the chaos effect from particles and all that, so using them “randomly” is the only way to play them

Since I have actually seen my dragon tooth hit in spvp, I stoped beliving in the buffs and realised im playing against bads, other than that, still get wrecked by the same classes like before.

They can learn it all if they all played in the same “league”/ranks, not getting paired up with everyone who isnt anymore at that “discovery”/learning point in spvp

At least im not the only one having trouble with condis on my ele that is build to counter them. But yeah I pretty much agree with everything, it still doesn’t promote active/skillfull play or at least timing it’s just “I hardcounter you so leave point and deal with it”

It’s ugly, let the people make money selling it

Just people from pve playing them, thats why you see them more often

Angel.4581:

Easy fix for this, team up with people you know are good players, go to tourneys and enjoy the wins

I’ve been having a blast the last matches I played.

Gee man, no one ever thought of that, what a true genious idea…

Basically people being people, I mean “toxic” it’s team play oriented and the newbies dont want/care about being good and try to win, they just try to kill (and fail) other players and not ressing downed mates etc…

The problem is that you depend so much on your team-mates to win, it gets frustrating, seeing people just going randomly killing people off point and zerging to w/e they feel like, trying to cap with you when there is no one around (no it doesn’t cap any faster), losing outnumbered fights when they have the number advantage etc..etc….

All this in solo Q, not even hotjoin