Guild Wars 2

Legendaries can’t be vendored. Perhaps you accidently dropped it in the bank?

Resonance.4216:

Well with the current state of the cash shop and RNG, the players are now forced to wonder what the difference is between buying cash —> gems --> gold and just buying gold. Was that something ANet factored in when they nerfed farming with DR?

Because the existence of an intermediate currency allows for a fluid exchange based on the scarcity of said intermediate currency.

The exchange isn’t static. If there’s lots of gold in the economy, gems will become more expensive (more people converting gold -> gems). If there’s less gold in the economy, gems will reflect player’s purchasing patterns and become cheaper (less people converting gold -> gems.). Gems and its scarcity exists as a base for the calculation of this exchange ratio.

Resonance.4216:

“T6 mats and lodestones now available in the cash shop”.

You’re making an assumption that every player in the game wishes to purchase and consume T6 mats/lodestones. This is not true, as can be seen the sheer existence of these materials listed on the TP for sale. People forget that rising costs of materials also benefits the sellers, who are also players. Overall, I imagine that increased price of materials have negligible impact on gem purchases, as detailed as follows (if you’re interested.)

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/Higher-prices-on-TP-more-Gem-purchases/first

Because the population as a whole actually does think that these are decent rates to convert Gems → Gold at.

http://www.gw2spidy.com/gem

Since April, the ratio has remained remarkably steady. This means that there’s roughly an equal amount of people converting Gems → Gold vs Gold → Gems. When people convert Gems → Gold, it makes Gems “cheaper”, and vice versa for Gold → Gems (Makes gems “more expensive”).

If enough people thought that the Gems → Gold ratio is too low, then they will not do it, and Gems will get more “expensive” (lowering the “cost” of gold via gems). But you don’t see that. Thus, it can be inferred that enough people find the rate acceptable.

Guns and Giblets.9308:

It’s faux outrage. It’s not like they’d take the post seriously if those lines weren’t included, since it is severely critical of the game; these same people discredit or sarcastically dismiss meaningful, matter-of-fact critiques. If someone can’t get over two lines to critique the rest, then that says more about that person than it does about the OP. (And, no, I don’t agree with the OP’s post.)

Right, and the OP threw the last two lines to bait out the fanboys. This says that the OP is obviously not seriously interested in good discussion by tossing out an obviously inflammatory statement.

By twohanders, do you mean like a two-hand sword, or just two-hand weapons in general?

Ranger: Greatsword, Shortbow, Longbow
Thief: Shortbow
Engi: Rifle
Ele: Staff
Necro: Staff
Mesmer: Staff, GS

Behellagh.1468:

As someone who works at a whole own subsidiary of another company, our sales and expenses are tracked by our accounting department with our aggregate profits and losses appearing on our parent company’s quarterly and yearly statements.

Yes, in the end it’s all their money but the money first goes through our hands on the way to theirs.

Exactly. It’s a very common industry practice. I don’t get why people make such a huge deal about it and imply that it’s a “bad” thing.

Lets not forget that on average, around 10 Dusks get traded in 24 hours, as stated by Mr. Smith.

Yeaaaa, try monopolizing that.

Behellagh.1468:

And from where are you gleaning that bit of information from? And don’t say Dontain’s video because that guy is foiling the inside of his flat to keep out the mind control rays.

It makes sense. It’s what normal companies do. Revenue from one product line almost never all go directly back to said product line.

However, it’s stupid to infer that this practice is something of a negative to said product line. NCSoft is well aware of the profitability of GW2, and will continue to support this product and expand Anet while helping manage the financial aspect of the company (Which is also very important and time-consuming.) And lets not forget how NCSoft funded the development (5+ years?) of GW2 in the first place. Where did those funds come from, if not NCSoft’s coffers, which other games such as Lineage contributed to?

TL;DR: People make too much fuss about an incredibly routine industry practice.

Zindrix.1750:

Also, I don’t doubt that the conversion rate isn’t super great, but some idiots drop $50 on those dumb RNG boxes for an ugly weapon skin, so those kinds of people are out there. My point was more aimed at the fact that Anet will do many things(except nerf CoF) to make gold scarce so that anybody(lazy people with money) might be more inclined to purchase gems.

Having gold scarce most likely does not lead to people purchasing more gems.

Prices of goods on TP and gem themselves aren’t static. Scarce gold will simply lead to lower TP/Gem prices. The latter simply means that the Gem/Gold ratio will react by making Gems cheaper as gold becomes scarce in the economy.

Yes, Anet does many thing to make people purchase more gems. However, those efforts are mainly focused on coming out with cool stuff on the Gem Store. The overall economy in this game most likely has very little impact on Gem purchases seeing as the Gem/Gold exchange actually self-adjusts to the player economy.

gennyt.3428:

LOL at this.

I’m surprised Anet went that way with it, haven’t met a cool centaur in GW2 yet (R.i.p Zhed Shadowhoof). And that quote made it all the more ironic since it’s part of Ventari’s (a centaur) teachings.

There is a peaceful centaur wandering about in Lion’s Arch’s Grand plaza.

7 posts down:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/Who-am-I-supporting-when-I-buy-gems/first#post2245578

Snowmoon.1758:

Ursan.7846:

RNG isn’t a problem. RNG being account bound is. People didn’t mind Lady Kasmeer mini or the Molten mini, because it was available on the TP for the luck-aversed. Hopefully it’s similar to the MF rewards this time.

People opening 5000 coffers and got nothing would probably disagree with you.

Do you see people complaining about the Mini from the coffers? They’re random, with pretty small chance (0.75% according to the wiki) but people don’t mind because they can purchase it directly from the TP. RNG isn’t the problem, the account-bound factor is.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dragon_Coffer/drop_rate

RNG isn’t a problem. RNG being account bound is. People didn’t mind Lady Kasmeer mini or the Molten mini, because it was available on the TP for the luck-aversed. Hopefully it’s similar to the MF rewards this time.

You got the right idea, but I feel like the wrong perspective.

The cost of changing traits isn’t the problem. It’s incredibly minor. The lack of templates is the problem. Changing traits is a hassle, and it shouldn’t be.

Theo Ashford is dead. I’m not sure how you’ll complete the achievement, actually! This is a great question.

Zenith.7301:

The consequence is not getting the one skin you like, which may be one of the few you only liked. If you don’t care for looks, that’s fine, but looks are the only reason some people play RPG’s for.

And how many people would think that missing out on skins in an RPG is an consequence of the same magnitude as stopping to breathe and dying?

This is the context people should think about when tossing the “BUT BREATHING IS AN OPTION” as an counterargument to the “But it’s optional” argument.

Guns and Giblets.9308:

It seems disanalogous to compare the consumption of video games (or, broadly, entertainment) to the consumption of, say, hygiene products. The former give more selectivity. The latter are a bit more restrictive inasmuch as I pay a heavy social penalty for failing to use them and their distribution as non-digital products restricts availability in ways not necessarily true of today’s computer games.

This statement would be true if P&G was the only company which provides hygiene products. Which it isn’t. You’re providing a false dilemma here. You’re trying to frame the P&G example as a “Use hygiene product or not use it.” That’s not true and you’re contriving the example to create your false dilemma.

There are plenty of example of companies who own many brands of luxury goods, such as soda, physical toys, television shows, etc exist. (I watch HBO solely to watch Game of Thrones, but they do finance many other projects). The product being provided isn’t what’s important, however. The point is the concept of liking a company’s product, and yet not supporting said company because of dislike of other product lines.

Guns and Giblets.9308:

Also, I’m not sure it is justified to claim “completely arbitrary” (which is the kind of hyperbole you have asked not to be used) without further identifying or analyzing the standard in question. The most rigorous philosophical discourse tries to make the best possible case for an opposing position—even making arguments the opposition hasn’t considered—before rejecting it. I can think a few components for a standard here that prima facie could provide the consistency you seem to want (although whether they bear out under intense scrutiny is another story).
There’s complexity here as well, as the larger the company, and the more areas in which it is involved, the greater the difficulty in sorting out the myriad motives, products, direction, etc.

It is arbitrary in the sense that the application of this standard is just that: arbitrary. It is applied in some cases, but not in others. But my point isn’t to reject the original subject’s viewpoints because it’s arbitrary (I cannot. It is his opinion), but to simply point out that

1. He has no evidence on his assumptions, and will need to provide proof of his claims if he is to be persuasive in a logical manner.
2. That what he is calling out is a standard practice in today’s industry, and that his opinions are not in the majority, as proven by the sheer proliferation of industry conglomerates.

Guns and Giblets.9308:

Finally, people in our time and age are wildly inconsistent. (This isn’t directed at Aeonblade, by the way.) Often this is because they haven’t thought through their positions. But sometimes it’s because consistency isn’t seen as an important or necessary value. Your response here is predicated on certain commitments that not everyone in the Western world shares.

You’re completely correct on this.

Araziel.7201:

The overall aesthetic the game is starting to take on with a lot the store items and other things being added.. They are very corny and more like the things you find in Korean grinders.

Like Lineage 2
http://i.imgur.com/ETlWKs7.jpg

And Aion.
https://a248.e.akamai.net/static.ncwest.origin.ncsoft.com/billing/images/store/box/aion_beatific_halo_3d5723701fc4f6d4db94b2130e77bdb1.jpg

They are getting that NCsoft Korean grinder look.

Oooh, gotcha. You literally do not like the aesthetics. My apologies for misunderstanding. Your mention of “Korean grinders” threw me off, since Korean games aren’t the only subset of games with silly/corny outfits.

locoman.1974:

Randulf.7614:

The day the community is satisfied is when GW3 comes out…so that the whole vicious cycle can begin anew

When GW3 comes out you’ll see lots of posts talking about how anet destroyed guild wars with it and why can’t it be more like GW2 and stuff like that..

Actually, I’ll write this down somewhere so I can quote it when GW3 comes out..

You should’ve seen the forum posts when GW1 came out. Specifically, the posts which predicted GW1 would be “Death within 6 months.”

Araziel.7201:

I guess you don’t know what it means. Looks like one. You know as in looks? Didn’t say it played like one.

1. You don’t like Korean grinders
2. You pointed out you didn’t say GW2 "plays like “Korean Grinders.”
3. So GW2 doesn’t PLAY like a Korean Grinder, according to you

This is good, no?

What was your original intention then, choosing the words “looks like” as opposed to “play like?”

Guns and Giblets.9308:

Ursan.7846:

Aeonblade.8709:

Actually in the Procter and Gamble bit, I use every single one of those in my household.

Do you seriously use every single P&G product in your household? I find that incredibly hard to believe.

He said everyone of “those.” He was referring to the products you listed from P&G.

Yes, I realize. However, by using his own logic, he’ll only support a company if he likes/uses “most or all” of its products. Which P&G has many. This is not including the many products P&G creates that are not for use by consumers.

His reasoning is so completely arbitrary. You can not support GW2 if you don’t like it. That’s a perfectly legitimate reason by itself. But not supporting it because you like it, but you don’t like the company’s other products? A completely arbitrary standard which I highly doubt can be strictly adhered to.

It’s perfectly fine to not like GW2 without resorting to hyperbole, you know. You should try playing some of these Korean grinders, where you’d grind (And I mean grind. Killing the same mobs over and over again, none of this weak stuff GW2 has) hundreds of hours for just one level.

Aeonblade.8709:

Actually in the Procter and Gamble bit, I use every single one of those in my household.

Do you seriously use every single P&G product in your household? I find that incredibly hard to believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Procter_%26_Gamble_brands

Thankfully though, a majority of consumers don’t partake in your extreme practices, or we’d be seeing a lot less of these huge conglomerate companies (which exists in every industry.)

What you are saying isn’t wrong. It’s how you choose to support companies. However, you’re trying to paint a commonplace company practice (of sharing revenue from different product lines) as somehow “bad” because you personally don’t agree with it. Not many people are going to agree with you on that and even less people care about it.

Aeonblade.8709:

So it’s wrong to find a company where you enjoy all or most of the games they have to offer. The difference is with WoW, I play SC and Diablo as well. So that works for me. I don’t play Aion or Lineage, therefore it does not work for me.

See how I decide where my dollars go?

It’s not wrong, but it feels very arbitrary to not support a game because you don’t like other games that the publisher supports.

Activision Blizzard owns the following game franchises:

Crash Bandicoot
Guitar Hero
Call of Duty
Tony Hawk
Spyro the Dragon
Warcraft
Starcraft
Diablo

Do you play most/all these games? Even if you narrow it to Blizzard, do you play Warcraft 3? Or just WoW? (Two completely different games). Do you like/play the Lost Vikings? Money spent on D3/WoW may very well be funding development of WC4 or a new Lost Vikings game, in addition to Project Titan/Hearthstone. The exact money trail, you have no idea, just as you have no idea how NCsoft is distributing funds.

EDIT: This same logic can be applied to non-gaming products as well. Do you like Crest toothpaste? Duracell batteries? Febreze maybe? They are all owned by Proctor & Gamble, which also own a huge portfolio of brands (Head & Shoulders, Olay, Oral-B, Tide, Charmin, etc…)

EDIT2: By the way, don’t get me wrong. If you don’t support GW2 because you don’t like GW2, that’s perfectly fine. If you don’t support GW2 because you don’t like NCsoft/Lineage/Wild Star but love GW2 is….again, a bit extreme.

Aeonblade.8709:

In today’s politically correct world, I have resigned myself to knowing that telling someone they should do something or research something themselves instead of having others do it for them is an insult.

http://www.neo-philosophy.com/LogicWeek7.html

Please look up “Misplaced burden of proof.”

“Politically correct” isn’t the phrase you’re looking for. Any formal arguments done with logic dictates that the person who makes the claim, should provide proof of it.

skullmount.1758:

I’m sure its only on the first time its completed. Hopefully its based on character and not account…

Doesn’t matter. It’s an indication of difficulty, I think, just like the Mad King’s JP. Difficult JPs = GOOD.

Introducing a new, permanent jumping puzzle! An Aetherblade airship is hidden inside a holographic mountain – find your way in, fight with the pirates inside, and prove your prowess using a pair of hard-to-find diving goggles.

Enduring the trials of the Not So Secret jumping puzzle will win you a set of exotic shoulderpads.

Color me EXCITED. The only JP to reward a guaranteed exotic is the Mad King’s. If this JP is so hard it warrants an exotic reward….

SUPER HYPED.

God Of Fissures.8627:

I describe change as actual changes to the outside world, not an instance within a zone. If parts of Orr begin to sink again and stay sunken, that is change. If Mount Maelstrom erupts and a lava flow permanently destroys part of the forest, that is change. If centaurs migrate closer to Divinity’s Reach as to replace the drake population with centaurs, then that is change.

Adding a few instances whose existence provides no change to the world outside of the instance is NOT change.

These temporary events “temporarily” change the world and then the content fades away as soon as the event ends. The point of this thread is to protest this and demand change in this so-called “Living World”.

So then what do you call the new (permanent) settlements in Southsun?

There’s been two Living Story arcs completed so far, F & F and SoS. F&F added changes in instanced areas (which, by your definition, doesn’t count.). SoS added several new structures and settlements in Southun. Going by your definitions, Anet is 1/2 so far.

EDIT: Also, so far in the Dragon Bash arc, open-world NPC Theo Ashford has been killed. This means you’ll never see this NPC in the open world, hanging around in LA again. Change, no?

God Of Fissures.8627:

Cragstead was just a small area built on top of the spider cave in Wayfarer Foothills. It holds no significance since it is an instance and has nothing to present players with.

Hatchery provides players with nothing besides what was available in Flame & Frost.

Southsun has become an integral part of the game since it has been involved in TWO events, not just one and thrown away.

So I fail to see your argument.

I have no argument. Simply pointing out that the world has changed. Cragstead is in the process of being rebuilt, with NPCs who thank you for helping them collect their mementos. Southsun has several new structures and outposts which didn’t exist before.

I am slightly perplexed by your wording. “Provides players with nothing.” What do you mean by this? Because by that definition, you’re somewhat correct. there is nothing “provided” aside from a few new NPC conversations and new scenery. But doesn’t that fall under the category of “change?”

God Of Fissures.8627:

I wish more things would actually CHANGE in the world and have the world stay CHANGED.

If this was a true LIVING STORY, the world would not RETURN TO NORMAL after the event has ended.

Cragstead, Hatchery, and Southsun have changed and stayed changed before/after their respective living stories.

Bright.9160:

Except, Beethoven went gradually deaf and people kept telling him how awesome his music was…

Right. Beethoven gradually became completely deaf and yet still continued to create great works of music (The 9th symphony, I believe, was created in his later ages when he was completely deaf).

This is ignoring the fact that your point is pretty moot since Anet does play their game (as proven by many posts in this thread.)

And I hope you realize plenty of people still are “telling Anet how awesome their game is”," through the sheer existence of overflows, WvW quenes, and reports of strong Gem sales from NCSoft earnings reports.

EDIT: I apologize, as I seem to have misunderstood the original post. My understanding is, Dog isn’t stating that Anet is not playing the game, just stating that devs should play the game once in a while, which they definitely already do.

Dog.1472:

I definitely don’t think it’s asking too much for the people to make the game to have to be required to play it once in a while.

It would be like a chef who doesn’t even taste their food. How exactly are you supposed to know how to design a game that you don’t even play.

Just like how Beethoven was unable to create great music because he was deaf, right?

Oh wait…

Rama.6439:

You’re totally wrong on it being a vocal minority, it’s a vocal majority, just look at the forums, most are posts about what people don’t like and what’s wrong with the game, and where they see the game headed. The people that stick up for Anet in these posts, look at their post histories, I have they LIVE IN THE FORUMS, they can’t possibly play the game with the amount of time they spend on these forums, some people who stick up for the DEV’s post in almost every single post on these forums, now how does someone like that spend quality time in game and find the time to post on the forums all day? I’ll tell you how, they are actually Anet employees posting under their own game accounts, just like the the Anet employee in this post said he plays on his own account, employees are posting in the forums on their own accounts to look like regular players.

I know this for a fact cause I was banned for calling one of them out and posting his name I will not say who but it happened and I got banned from the forums for it, it was a temp ban.

Hahahaha

You should ask Vayne to post a screenshot of his hours played.

PS I hope you realize it’s against forum rules to call out anyone, Anet or players.

Mkalafut.1273:

This post mentioned SAB and gem store skins. I am talking about the lack of general, readily available, farmable, skins in the game. We have the same 2 skins for each weapon / armor type from level 1 – 80.

Minus the addition of guild weapons (and SAB skins) there has not been any sort of addition to the weapon (or weapon skin) pool that is readily available or farmable besides the ones I mentioned. Guild weapons, fractal weapons, being the exception.

How do you define “readily available and farmable?”

I’d argue that with current exchange rates, the Wintersday/Rox/Braham weapon skins cost about 25G (800Gems). Does that not fall under the category of readily available and farmable? Or are you categorizing them solely on their existence in the Gem Shop? I just assumed this was mainly a complaint against RNG boxes, which I can certainly support.

SAB, Wintersday, Guild skins, and Braham/Rox weapons all can be obtained through non-RNG methods.

You’re being disingenuous by making these generic statements without bringing specific examples. If you wish to be persuasive, you should be more precise in your communication and examples.

What game has mechanics of gathering tools, and has unlimited gathering tools available in a non-cash shop format? (Not Everquest)

Which game has bank slots, and gives extra bank slots available in a non-cash shop format? (This is the point. You’re the one who stated that features like this are “provided free of charge in every other MMORPG.” Please name me an MMO which provide you extra bank slots free of charge. Definitely not Rift or WoW or LOTRO. Bank slot expansions cost money, real or virtue.)

Which game allows you to change your character’s appearance for free? (Certainly not WoW, requires actual money. Certainly not in Rift. Can be done with in-game money but definitely not free. Doesn’t even exist in LotRO last time I played)

What game, with stationed merchant NPCs, allow you to instantly summon a merchant NPC to you for free? (I honestly don’t know of any MMO which lets you do it for free.)

So what is your point? Your original posts states that:

the worthwhile items in the gemstore are actually features that are provided free of charge in every other MMORPG

This is obviously false.

EDIT: Honestly, what is your point? Why are you ignoring the aspects of the Gem Store which you label as “free in every other MMO?” Again, there’s plenty of evidence that the playerbase are eating it up. There’s many posts extolling the virtues of the quaggan backpacks and the molten mining pick. We’ve seen massive spikes in Gem ratios when character slots, bank slots, and transmutation slots went on sale. And then we have NCSoft’s earnings report which basically stated GW2’s Gem Store has done wonderful business. So basically, what you label as “rubbish” is selling real well.

Extra bank slots? Extra character slots? Unlimited gathering tools? Karma/MF/exp boosters? Convenience items like the instant merchant/trading post/bank? Transmutation crystals? Random fun items like dance/musical equipment? Hair/total make-over kits?

Heck, I’d venture to assume that, based on Gem ratio spikes, stuff like character/bank slot expansions, transmutation stones, and the unlimited gathering tools are incredibly popular.

Also please name me an MMO which gave you extra bank/character slots for free, because I can sure name you MMOs which charge you for extra bank/character slots.

Geo, I must say at this moment I dislike you immensely for contributing to their RNG practices.

pullnointer.1476:

they do not play the game. how do I know this? izzy uses divinity gear on his warrior.

Pretty sure you have to play the game if you’re to have a character you can use divinity gear on, to get all technical.

This will enrage the achievement-point completionists pretty hard.

tigirius.9014:

Let me reitterate, RNG would work like this in every mmo if it were truly as simple as Random chance. Computers cannot yet perform truly random algorithms as any computer technologist worth his weight in water will tell you it’s just not possible yet.

Random is what we observe as random. Nothing in the world is “truly” random. A thrown dice is governed by the laws of physics, yet we cannot discern it hence we deem it “random.”

Zenith.7301:

If you want to continue to exist. Which is optional if you’re aware of what people do when they don’t want that option.

Everything is optional.

Right. So if he doesn’t like the released content, he can choose to ignore it and ignore the achievements attached to it, because they have no impact on your gameplay. You pay no subs, you can leave this game for a few days and do something else.

I don’t see the problem?

EDIT: By framing your statement that way, you’re completely ignoring or missing the point on why people say achievements are “optional.” Namely, that the consequences of NOT doing it is minimal (or none, as some can argue.)

If you choose to stop breathing, you die. If you choose to stop taking showers, you earn social stigma. These are consequences far more significant than missing out on 10 achievement points in GW2.

Strifey.7215:

Funny story about LoSing. So it’s no secret I’m playing WoW to hold me over until the next batch of MMOs come out and I figure out what’s worth playing.

So I was doing a heroic mode of one of the MoP level 90 dungeons, and there’s this section before the last boss where 16 mobs spawn that mainly cast spells. The group I was playing with told me to LoS behind this stone pillar, and just like that all 16 mobs came around the corner where we proceeded to quickly AoE them down (since WoW doesn’t have the 5 mob limit). From what I hear, LoSing in PvP is a huge part of the game as well for melee vs casters.

That being said, WoW has a huge amount of strategy and mechanics for PvE that are pretty refreshing after playing GW2 PvE for 9 months, I wish GW2 integrated alot of the same stuff.

I would say LoSing is a pretty normal strategy in most games I’ve played.

Isn’t LoS useful in GW2 too though? Off the top of my head I use it a ton during CM runs, specifically for the fight with Seamus where you LoS his adds around a wall to AoE them down quickly, and the fight after you get past Wahlen where you LoS that huge mob inside the box. Or in Cliffside fractals, during the arm seals where you’re LoSing the chanters in the hallway.

You use the skin on an item, you can’t use it on another item.

WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS.

By the way, if anyone has time, you should check out Hatchery and Cragstead, just to talk to the NPCs who appreciate the things you’ve done for them.

Super minor. But great reminder of what we did.

I’m going to bring up this quote from Anet Prez Mike O’Brien every time someone mentions “But GW2 was promised to have no grind!”

Here’s what we believe: If someone wants to play for a thousand hours to get an item that is so rare that other players can’t realistically acquire it, that rare item should be differentiated by its visual appearance and rarity alone, not by being more powerful than everything else in the game. Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games — we leave the grind to other MMOs.

http://venturebeat.com/2012/05/21/guild-wars-2-interview-monetization/

GW1 and GW2 has always been about cosmetic grind. You’re fooling yourself if you assume otherwise.

The two Southsun backpieces (tentacle and flower) are also obtained through quasi-scavenger hunts, just like the Moa chick in GW1. The F&F fused gauntlets were obtained through playing the game. The shattered holo wings for Dragon Bash is obtained through playing the game.

Rewards for playing the game do exist.

OmniPotentes.4817:

I must admit I was mistaken. The risen mini is not account bound and can be purchased from the TP.

I also was surprised by receiving a mini crate from Anet as a thank you gift for previous purchases in the gemstore.

I feel quite stupid right now but wont edit my post because i desirve it.

My sincerest apologies for having rushed to conclusions.

You, sir, deserve some respect.

I hope you realize “real” markets are subject to fluctuations too.

i.e. harddrive prices skyrocketing due to floods in thailand, oil prices jumping due to unrest in Iran.