Guild Wars 2

Turret engineers that lacked mobility and condi cleansing did well against d/d eles but the recent nerf made it significantly less useful.

If you think eles are powerful now, just a few months ago it had a healing bug that made it almost unkillable. Even after that correction, the d/d eles still reign supreme. When I ran d/d ele, I found it took more effort to get myself killed than to stay alive. The build is a joke. No thank you. I run fresh air instead.

Btw, you can counter d/d with fresh air’s ranged.

Wargrave.4936:

Again, 1/2 my points, watched him die off points numerous times

Maybe this could be the reason why he was upset – you didnt help him out and your assistance could have prevented your team from being outnumbered for a while due to spawn and the other team from gaining 5 points. He may have died from intentionally fighting the opponents before they get to your point.

Hard to tell. But sure, there are toxic players in the game.

You know you’re screwed early on when either no one takes home or it’s being double/triple capped with no opponents around.

Thanks for clarifying guys because I wasn’t completely certain.

With the help of d/d ele and shoutbow cleanses, I’ve noticed a decrease in condi builds running about in ranked queue. The decline in condi builds made some players too comfortable to bother about cleansing.. Wondering if this will create an opportunity for a high burst condi build since it’s least expected.

Physical damage I know for sure but have no idea about its effect on condi damage dealers

Someone from my team was complaining how the game is super bugged because he couldn’t get our treb to work. It was immediately pointed out that he was in our enemy’s treb. It was too much for me to get upset over. Despite losing, I found that encounter quite endearing.

Im guessing there is a huge difference when one plays in NA during EU peak hours.

However, it’s not peak in NA right now but the lag is terrible. I wonder why.

Lagged and disconnected 2 games in a row not long ago

Today, someone created an engie for the very first time and thought it was a great class so far and that he could get used to it. After spending 10 min on his new engie going through the initial PVE objective, he went to hotm and queued……Compete – ended up in my team.

He’s got dailies to accomplish, who cares about those competitive pvp scrubs anyways.

Arietta The Broken.1875:

Not many people play engineers.

This one’s worse better. 100% turreteers. Noice.

someone just called me the impolite version of “female dog” after using that finisher :/

Years ago, hotjoin was a blast and every match felt like a wild party. 10v10 zergs in Capricorn brutalizing people with hundred blades before realizing how OP that canon was.

Now, maps are either ghost towns or full of wishy-washy ppl swapping or abandoning teams. It’s basically for people without private servers that want to experiment new builds or troll other players.

Novuake.2691:

Vapour.7348:

pve virgin

Created a new toon?

I created 2 new toons from existing slots and also bought 3 additional slots. I got all of them to 80 from exp scrolls, and tomes but still have a full stack left. All duplicate professions, just wanted to see the “feel” of certain races. They all have between 0-2% map completion which makes them kinda useless in PVE unless I run around to get new waypoints points for each one. Nothing wrong with pve, it just seems like too much effort to me and doesn’t feel as rewarding.

pve virgin

Justin ODell.9517:

The leaderboard now rolls desertions into the losses column.

This is erroneous because I did not disconnect at all in the last hour and yet the system posted that I had 12 losses. The reality is I had 3 wins and 1 loss. How did it come to 12 losses? Prior to this, my win/loss ratio was closer to 60%.

I don’t understand why the system is so punitive, even to those who play fair and honest.

Maybe it’s just you :p

Engie is not my main but it’s a fun class to play. You can counter turrets w necro ds4, dps warriors, staff ele, nades and lots more. Just use the terrain around the point to kite.

If there is an “OP” class, I’d have to say it’s todays elementalist. They were strong around this time 2 years ago but it was from boon stacking, cantrips, shorter RTL cd…

Thought I’d share this with a lighthearted holiday mood. Game started 4v5 and then 3v5 half-way through. Queued solo. I hustled towards objectives most of the match and didnt pay attention to the score. What’s funny is that I thought I was in the blue team as soon as I saw the score because we had fewer players so therefore our score had to be the lower one.

Would be cool if you guys could share the funny/amazing/inspirational/impossible matches you’ve had.

Happy Holidays

GhOst.4019:

Amir.1570:

List of easiest classes in order:

1.) Ranger – Able to evade indefinitely while attacking with pet, plenty of “I screwed up buttons.” The easiest class in the game.
2.) Necromancer – Highest effective HP in the game, lots of “I screwed up buttons,” easy to land important things such as boon stripping and chain CC
3.) Guardian – Able to Block and Blind while attacking. DPS is very easy to land.
4.) Elementalist – Too many “I screwed up buttons” and mobility in some builds, too much sustain and skills are very easy to land.

I’m not saying those classes are broken, I’m just saying they are easy and forgiving. Those four are the most beginner friendly classes in the game.

Mesmer is also easy once you understand how to count dodges. Not as easy as those four braindead classes above though. You could wait until Berserker Meta comes back again and you’ll see why Mesmer can be easy. Just not as much as those four that I mentioned.

Don’t bother with Warrior if you have a hard time landing important skills such as Earthshaker or Pin Down. Don’t bother with Thief if you have zero reaction time in dodging burst. Turret Engi is braindead but don’t bother with Engi builds that take skill if you can’t skill shot for jack.

Classes for when you are actually good at the game: Warrior, Engi, Thief, and maybe non-cheesy high risk high reward power Necro specs.

Gotta be troll. You can’t list Necro as the 2nd easiest to play. That is a joke. A MM necro maybe but they are still played wrong by 95% of people that use them and are trash. Necro has the least amount of “I screwed up buttons” (as you put it) in the game. Warrior being “for when you are good” ? Lol? Probably the easiest class to play.

Yeah there’s no way necro is the 2nd easiest to play.

At the beginning of a match, power necros are like turret engies with all utilities on c/d. Turreteers have a full “free turn” in damages dealt before it’s on par with an LF-free necro. Margin for errors are much slimmer for necros, especially without LF.

lul down syndrome omfg i laffed

They make it obvious how absolutely buffed engies are. You’d think people would tone it down a bit and keep things subtle. They should have went all-in with 3 engies and 2 eles.

This is what celestial elementalists look like IRL

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At the beginning of one match, when I was about to cap home, a thief from my team used stealth :_(

I really don’t appreciate people who are after the rewards queue for ranking. But it’s a free world and they could do whatever they wish. It would be nice if they realized that they are a burden and could ruin someone’s enjoyment out of the game.

It would be nice if they realized that there are other pvp modes available that wouldn’t hurt someone’s enjoyment and still get rewarded.

Lux.7169:

yummcha.9456:

Formula for success in current leaderboards: “Amount of time played in MMR sweet spot”. The MMR sweet spot, where you get the fastest queue pops and gain a net amount of points, even though you went 50:50 W/L.

Exhibit A:

1) Lose 3 games, but still gained 1 point? (lol??? close games maybe?). Your MMR is now below what your true MMR is.
2) Crush noobs; gain points. MMR rises back to normal.
3) Rinse and repeat.

As always, Anet is hipster and has to do things their own way. A leaderboard that isn’t ordered on the basis of MMR is obviously not one that’s entirely based on skill.

All 3 of those were to the same team, whose pvp record was about 41-1 at the time. On that note we had lost 3 more games to them the hour before that and didn’t go up and we didn’t fall since we fell within the ‘reasonable threshold’. The +1 we gained from that was probably our match that ended 470-480 where the timer ended the match.

Plus we had 1-2 players who had not played in months with probably significantly lower MMR so as to tip the scale to get us a point even if we scored almost enough for a victory but still lost.

There’s a lot of flaws in the system, and particularly having to fight the same team 6 times in a row (actually 8 since we played and lost to them 2 more times after that). So I am not complaining that I got +1 from 3 hours of playing… and anyone who tries that hard deserves even that little of compensation for time investment. That being said, I completely disagree with how the current LB is set up, and that they’re doing rewards.

For example, when I was at 56 wins, 12 losses, Cover girl was ahead of me by 5-10 points with ~36 wins and ~25 losses… Why do I have to win nearly TWICE as many games, and have to win significantly more of them to just try to catch up to that? It seems stacked against people who have strong MMR’s coming into the ladder.

Hi Lux – yeah the rewards attract people with very little pvp experience but maybe that’s okay if they are willing to learn and help prop up the pvp population. I still havent figured out the all the variables that affect this LB Since you’ve mentioned Cover Girl’s rank, my best guess is that the system gives extra credit to solo queue players.

On the first day this was implemented, Cover Girl, who queued solo at the time was in my team. I think everyone from that match queued solo and it was a 5v5, one guy left before I took the screenie. So I’m thinking she may have defeated a few teams that were premade and that may have given her the boost in ranking.

Anhomedog.7968:

Hey Hey brah, like I always say, “If you hate it, play it”. Thats how I became an ele and I love it. If everybody played this way we would all be eles and no one would be OP

Lol I know former hambows and dps rangers now main cele ele. I think what’s more fun than “hate it, play it” is murdering it. But the cleansing, regen, toughness, might stacking of eles are unreal. They can easily beat condi and dps builds. I can’t think of a hard counter to cele eles. I know cele engies are a pain but luckily, there’s an easier engie build I see people play (turrets)

Solstice.1097:

Vapour.7348:

Sometimes it seems like elementalists are necros on unlimited death shroud but with faster skill CD and higher mobility

good condi necro will wreck a celestial d/d ele in 1v1.

Hi Solstice. In theory sure but in the highest tiers, when Phantaram (ele) beat Nos (nec) it further confirmed its favorable imbalance. And since you’re still working on a necro, I dont know if you actually believe your comment.

Sometimes it seems like elementalists are necros on unlimited death shroud but with faster skill CD and higher mobility

The old solo Q was the fairest mode the game ever had. If you were exceptional, then your win/loss ratio were higher but for everyone else, it was 50/50

uberkingkong.8041:

mistsim.2748:

Ostricheggs.3742:

stuff

congrats and ima let you finish, but you don’t think celestial is a tad over the top on engies and eles (srs question)?

Nah I don’t think celestial is over the top. Just an excuse people use when they get owned.
Engineers being too overpowered, ya that’s over the top.

I’m glad those who participated had fun, that the NA EU matches were good, but the other people, the IT’s and the marketing team, I don’t give them any praise, they slacked on there duties.

If I hear another excuse like ‘we weren’t able to recover the files because it was local and thus not played on our network’, man I wouldn’t know what to think about those guys then. They should know what a cloud storage is. Tired of nothing but bad things happening this week.
Duo que
WTS failure
Matchmaking failure
whats next???
something good I hope. enough failures, cant take anymore failures.

I think OE uses rabid. I don’t think engines are OP and it seems like a lions share of engies in NA run turret build

Not all Americans are like this: http://youtu.be/BrimMyOoEDA

it takes more than 5 minutes for a gvg person to fully grasp and apply:
rezzing your teamates, prevent them from rezzing, rotation (that’s huge, most ppl fail coz they dont understand or apply proper rotation), surviving long enough in 1v2 encounters

if spvp ppl want to have a gvg-like experience, they can just get a private coutyard map

insanemaniac.2456:

Vapour.7348:

insanemaniac.2456:

Vapour.7348:

Ugh but this update is SUPPOSED to fix this

update does not patch isps to always work, nor does it fuse your connection to the server into an unbreakable wire.

however, people who “forget” theyre in queue and afk and wreck a match before it starts are no longer getting forced into a match thats starting.

yes I know they are not getting forced to a match that’s starting but in this case, they accepted and wasn’t afk

4v5 will still happen no matter what disincentives are put in place to dissuade players from creating that situation. it will happen no matter what. the goal is to minimize the impact, not eliminate, because elimination is impossible. and the key component in this update to minimizing what you are complaining about is not yet in effect (dishonor). its not helpful to come in here all mad and ragepost about your bad experience. think about it all for a second first.

Im not raging, you are.

insanemaniac.2456:

Vapour.7348:

Ugh but this update is SUPPOSED to fix this

update does not patch isps to always work, nor does it fuse your connection to the server into an unbreakable wire.

however, people who “forget” theyre in queue and afk and wreck a match before it starts are no longer getting forced into a match thats starting.

yes I know they are not getting forced to a match that’s starting but in this case, they accepted and wasn’t afk

Ugh but this update is SUPPOSED to fix this

i think someone heard them say these

BlackDevil.9268:

Archaon.9524:

BlackDevil.9268:

NeXeD.3042:

Umm yes NA did win gvg. AGG won on EU and NA.

No they did not
The only GvG Guild that ever came over to an EU server is EP, which btw totally got destroyed by even kitten guilds on EU.

considering there is no gvg in this game sounds pretty legit to me. GvG is GW1 everything else it’s just random wvsw bs spam

“Blast blast blast blast!!1!1!” roflmao

GvG has much more teamplay and has much more discussion going on with optimal team comps and gears than spvp has in this game.
It’s a total different ‘’game mode’’ compared to spvp and has other ways of skill than just bunkering and cheesing 15 minutes through a game.

It’s seriously much different than spamming blast skills or running after a ’’commander’’.

sPvP seriously can learn something teamplay wise from GvG’s in many 4v4/5v5 team fights and comps.

You just can’t clearly see skill if you have no interest in how and what people do and because there is no spectate mode. ’’roflmao’’

It’s easier for an sPvPer to adapt to GvG than the other way around.

Come one guys lets not bash regions, it’s very unhealthy.

Oh and speaking of health, I give props to Europeans. They grow amazing fruits and vegetables from the soil fertilized by dead Romans.

Zepher.7803:

uh yea read first page…..nerf the class not the rune, it’s crap on other classes and barely workable on the others but op on 2 classes…so maybe nerf the class?

So you think a class should get nerfed because you witnessed a team that could play above and beyond what an average player could do? In fairness, NA comp was at risk because a certain class could super smash counter them. But at the end, they won because they are skilled and TCG, also very skilled, dismissed using the counter class

Piggy Malone.9501:

Well the fact is that it has upset people. It’s how the person that is being bullied perceives it and your views or mine are not important.

Nobody has really tried to answer my question as to how this dishonor system works?

In general, I believe people are nice. You’ve received a lot of useful advice on how to handle bullies because they seem to cause you/guild agony.

But you seem to suddenly dismiss the threat of bullies while showing apprehension to the upcoming dishonor system.

If the bullies are real or not, and if you’re a habitual afker/ditcher or not – the dishonor system is good a thing.

Lexiceta.4156:

All these post of people winning 80% of matches , just wondering where they are getting the numbers from? Is there a new leaderboard or something?

The comments on this thread about 500-0 matches are authentic. I don’t think they came here to brag but to address their concerns so devs can fix it. I’ve seen Over Powered Necro melt 2-3 opponents without breaking a sweat

While the profession rating implementation is a good idea, the 500-0 matches is slowly killing the same PVP community we want to grow. Top tier players are left unchallenged and uninspired while newer players get completely demoralized.

Kenadas.9680:

With the won of Abjured the last hope in “non-bullkitten-comps” is gone.
That tournament officaly showed us how comp>skill i mean wtf OE died to Helseth in 1v1.
By the way NA still scrubs.

I support NA but I still recognize and respect EU’s talent.

Americans usually unleash their true potential if the incentives are significant enough. Both teams did exceptionally well but I guess NA wanted the 1st place cash pot more

I wonder if the outcome would be different if TCG made room for a necromancer or two

Was the live musical pop/boyband/rap performance with never before seen stage ornaments like the magic orb that one guy was using.

I found myself headbanging and air guitaring on one of the songs about being a trouble maker.

Gotta give anet props. Despite being completely weirded out by the entire sequence, one things for sure….I wasn’t expecting that schiitt

To be perfectly honest, I think Caithe was craving an omelet.

OP reminds me of my uncle’s wife at the dinner table during a family gathering. Complaining/kvetching just for the sake of it even if some of the complaints were invalid.

OMG is your name Glenda Horowitz who tells everyone you’re from NY?

I know you’re really from Jersey but dont worry, I wont tell anyone.

Halcyon.7352:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Halcyon.7352:

morrolan.9608:

Fade.7658:

Has SoR dropped to Tier 1.5? I’ve been unable to WvW much due to RL lately, but it seems SoR is much reduced in strength.

We’ll see in week 7 and what happens afterward.

I’m curious how pre Season 1 TC would have done against the current SoR.

Even if TC dominated in NA prime, that off prime coverage from SoR would still carry them to a win.

Not really doubting we would have lost, I’m just curious how much closer the score would have been!

The loss of people even shows itself in the PvE side of TC. Bit quieter now a days in the open world – and even off prime, some of those people would’ve helped fill the ranks at odd hours.

Yes it gets pretty lonely in TC these days. Just a couple months ago we were the 2nd server to down Teq with people teeming everywhere. A lot migrated. I thought of moving too but decided to stay. Aside from migration, gobs of people simply stopped playing.

Serkz.3140:

dtzy.5901:

This thread has been disappointingly cordial.

Anyway,, this week’s match up was fun and did not disappoint! Hoping to get a bit more later.

Let me explain:

The cordial and polite nature of this thread is the result of 2 very wealthy servers respecting each other’s tradition of wvw excellence. On top of that, having SoS be such a good sport and being drama/troll free – everyone just ends up having a good time…….

Like a Sunday afternoon or early evening soirée served with hors d’oeuvres and a selection of Merlot, Cabernet Sauvignon and Zinfandel varieties.

Ooh sewwww classy. I think the outcome would be similar if you matched up with TC instead of SoS. We’d all have fun and stuff.

bUt mAH pEePZ fRUm tC DuN dO sOiREes aNd FAnCY scHMANcY bS. WE CoOL wiD PIZZa aNd bUD litE.

SFShinigami.2015:

Honestly, can’t tell if serious 0_o

I know a few bg like that, and jq, and ex-bg, but I just can’t tell.

Even I was skeptical at first but still, I was endeared by his offer to help. He said it wasn’t really a big deal and he’d rather see the gold from precursor sales be used in a meaningful way or something along those lines.

I was just really impressed by that and it reflected how I perceive the server.