Guild Wars 2

wow, people actually defend the abominable RNG in this game. I guess you drones will eat anything.

Torsailr.8456:

As the camera changes showed, there is more to HOT that they’ll talk about than was in the initial release. They also have yet to talk about WvW or Guildhalls. There’s plenty besides specializations.

OMG I’m totally buying this trainwreck of an expansion because of such wonderful “content” as camera changes!

all I see is buttdevastated Arenadrones. I like it.

Grandmarshall set from WoW is better than any plate armor in GW2.

there are NPCs at Vigil called “Tactician”, many of them use pistols. I think it could work as some sort of support specialization for warriors, with skills like artillery strike and stuff like that.

Godmoney.2048:

You all still like the TP and real money AH now? Enjoy these pathetic drop rates? I remember when Diablo 3 was like this. You know before they removed the real money AH and raised the drop rates. Now Diablo 3 is a very popular. Huh, what a coincidence.

I’m sure everyone enjoys playing a game for years though and never seeing a single high value drop though right? I know I don’t but hey I must be the weird one.

b-but what about playing just for playing? b-but you are supposed to just play this game and expect nothing from it, j-just the good feeling from playing! You are supposed to spend your money on game store, you are NOT supposed to have fun in game!

It’s absolutely freaking nothing.
- adding new class is nice, but you should add new classes when your current ones are atleast decently balanced, which is not the case of GW 2.
- one specialization per class is laughable
- new zones? Every expansion to every MMO ever.
- mastery being a selling point of an expansion is a joke, as it’s pretty much same thing as garrison outposts in WoW. You’ll get some sort of new ability which you can use only in the new zone. So what. Am I expected to buy HoT because of this?
- one new WvW map. As if the lack of maps was the biggest issue of WvW.
- new PvP regime. Same case as WvW map.
- Guild Halls. This one is nice, but it should be in the game since freaking release.
- GvG, same as Guild Halls, plus it seems like it will be limited for the new PvP mode. So it will most likely end up as Rated BGs in WoW – niche activity for handful of guilds.
This is hardly an expansion, DLC would be more appropriate. Hell, they could probably just patch most of these things in. So this is my opinion, I expect Arenadrones to tear me a new one.

….atleast find a better game.

Dondarrion.2748:

Sword+pistol guardian = Puritan like Solomon Kane

That’s actually pretty freaking awesome. Witch hunter would make sense. But…are there any evil witches in GW universe?

I wanted to call longbow guardian a kittened idea, but then I remembered Leliana from Dragon Age. It’s actually not so kittened idea.

Marksman/Sniper is most likely what will thief get.

never change, Arenadrones, never change. I fully agree with OP, I was watching the presentation, and once it was done, I just asked myself – and that’s it? Guild Halls and (very limited) GvG are nice but those are things which should be in GUILD WARS since release. Specializations (there is a rumour going around that there will be only one per class, which would be laughable), mastery (which is apparently limited only to new locations) and one new class are not enough to sell expansion. I’m sorry, but many MMOs give this much of a content in free patches.

the amount of kitten this video caused among the self proclaimed medieval warfare experts and tactical geniuses a.k.a neckbearded Warhammer/Magic the Gathering players is simply amazing.

wow…it’s freaking nothing.

Aethgar.1784:

Oh my no.. not splitting at ALL!
:) I have a ten day trial. And absolutely NO intention of returning to WoW ever. I was actually amused by the attitudes of friends who’d returned to WoW – as if once I touched it, I’d be back with no question.
And I won’t.
It’s not at ALL as good a game as GW2. If it was sub free I might say hi to friends there once a week or something. But the comic style isn’t my style, the story from all accounts as still as terribad as it was when I left (so NO thank you)..
I just couldn’t tolerate the crappy game mechanics.

But it got me to thinking about why on earth my friends HAVE returned to WoW. And the only things I could think of that WoW does slightly better than GW2 are what I noted. And three things better is NOT much.

>complains about story in WoW
>plays GW 2
confirmed for b8. If you are not joking and you actually thing GW2 is better game than WoW, you have seriously low standards.

Andred.1087:

What’s even wrong with gem store skins? Gold -> Gems exchange, anyone?

geee I don’t know, maybe Anet gutting economy and any source of ingame income to make gold → gems as unprofitable as possible?

and the eternal milking continues…

today we kill Salads, tomorrow quaggan. We shall paint the shores of Tyria red with their blood!

my predictions: absolutely nothing. Why are you hyping yourself so much for S3 of Living story?

Tharomir.6985:

This game desperately needs some actual new content besides this Living Story filler fluff.

shut up man don’t say such heretical things over here, you risk Arenadrone strike

it’s over 2 years, and you still don’t get the point? You won’t have good loot as long as gold => gems exists, and you won’t have shiny new rewards as long as gemstore is the thing.

ahahahaha get rekt scrub, no one cares about your stupid minigame.

YES I SURE DO LOVE EATING CRAP, THANK YOU ANET. And pls remove all of the rewards, and pls disable all loot, I don’t want anything. I just want to play the game because grinding the same boring crap for months and years IS SOOOOOO MUCH FUN.
Pls I need to constantly tell myself how much fun I have. Pls.

The Comfy Chair.7265:

If you’re noticing it, then maybe it’s because you’re playing simply to get some kind of status symbol, or reward, rather than for the enjoyment you get from the game.

Arenadrones pls, find a new argument. I mean if you enjoy doing the same exact grindy content you’ve been doing for the past 2 years….well that’s probably your thing.

jokke.6239:

Because anet need to make money somehow ..

That’s nice and understandable, BUT the problem is, people want to earn things by playing the game, not by throwing money to the toilet (that’s pretty much what keyes are) and relying on RNG. It’s not very cool to throw all the cool stuff to gemstore, while others will be stuck with one armor skin for next three months.

maddoctor.2738:

Varrg.2704:

reading stuff like this, I always ask myself why I still play this game…

If you play a video game for the material rewards then you should ask yourself why you play ANY video game. If the process of playing the thing doesn’t give you enjoyment, then why continue play?

…on the contrary, reading stuff like this makes it pretty obvious why is the game in such state as it is. You know, some players find enjoyment in being actually rewarded once in a while. But if you are okay with doing the same thing over and over again for basically nothing, you’re welcome.

xGraver.4918:

Just NO it’s brain dead zombie land what requiers -1 skills. 1 kitten necro can kill 50 ppl. Really do we need more brain dead trains. While WvW it self is dying faster then ever.

Stop being brain dead moran running after blue torrito and pressing 1111111.

oh come on, like average WvW is not a braindead zergfest where bigger blop of players wins. There’s a good reason why EotM is much more popular than WvW, it’s exactly the same thing, but much more rewarding. I can just laugh that hardcore WvW players who are sooooo above EotM, yet they do the same thing.

this was the one set that should be obtainable in game. But we have one armor set for next 3 months, thanks ANet. You sure now how to keep people who want to actually, you know, play your game and not shill their money with every update.

Rip Van Winkle.4859:

I have played several PAY games that have put Expansions in. Content was old after 30 days for the Price of $80.00 usd. No Thanks we don’t need that at all….

sure as Hell we don’t, no content at all 4ever

so far, Warlords of Draenor > GW 2, atleast for me…

reading stuff like this, I always ask myself why I still play this game…

according to some of these farming haters, ANet should remove all rewards alltogether. Why would anyone need something rewarding when you can just mindlessly play an unrewarding game, like a good little drone you are?

Kartel.2561:

In Silverwastes, ..what reason do I have to care if we control the forts or not? What impact does it really have in the zone? Does defeating the underground bosses unlock access to any special content for us? Can guilds formally claim those forts and do anything special with them? (I think they could really use some upgrades) And it will just be under attack again very soon anyway. So really, what’s the point of it all besides the farm?

Grinding for loot ad infinitum is such a lame form of content anyway. More specifically, a lame reason to do it.

What does it say about us that this is the only kind of “carrot” that we seem to want? Am I alone in wanting more and better reasons to repeat content?
Are we a playerbase consisting mostly of children with OCD, easily pacified by shiny objects?

Anet and many other companies seem to think so, and maybe they’re right. This thread would hardly dissuade them.

Everything gets less fresh and fun if you do it enough and nothing is changing about it. So why keep doing it? It seems the prevailing reason is “farm loot, get rich”.

I submit that in some, perhaps all, of these situations, loot should really be more of a secondary reason. There should be some important consequential difference that is made by doing it. Something that matters in the world that players would have reason to care about.

You do the content because the outcome matters, to you and most others. People necessarily care when there’s something at stake. Any loot you get along the way is more of a bonus.

I’d say something is really lacking with the content if it has no bearing on the world and the only reason to do it is farming shiny objects. C’mon, we’re not all Skritt are we?

I think you would be better off playing traditional single player RPGs, because you clearly don’t understand how MMOs work.

you won’t be getting good loot/income as far as ANet is making money through Gem store and gems → gold is the thing. So basically you can do three things:
1. suck it up and force yourself to have fun with no rewards
2. play only PvP
3. start playing another MMO

so, if I understand this correctly:
ANet finally gives us something rewarding which is also finally a decent way of making some gold by actually playing the game, but there are still people like OP who would rather have no rewards and farm same old dungeons for gold 24/7?

DiogoSilva.7089:

After Belinda’s spirit enchanted the Katana sword, if Rytlock ever comes with new abilities out of this, then we know which kind of profession is coming out. :P Both Belinda and Rytlock are warriors, one’s a ghost and the other disappeared after fighting ghosts. Also, Katana is a japanese weapon, Ritualists are usually blind-folded, Ritualist is from Cantha, and we’re getting Cantha-ish content from the Zephyr Bazaar.

Too much coincidence? Or are we getting an heavy-armored, greatsword-wielding ritualist class in the future?

ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED

I remember ANet sayin’g we’ll be able to play however we want and we’ll be equal in whatever spec we want. Turns out GW2 is no different from any other MMO with holy trinity, there’s alway just one viable build per class. Atleast for PvE. How sad.

Sorean.5379:

Mystic forge is love,Mystic forge is life.

One does not simply don’t gamble at the mystic forge,it is addictive.

You see people with random luck like throwing 4 random rares from World Bosses and getting precursors,the urge to try it too is very tempting

pretty much this happened to my guildmade, he threw 8 exotics into the toilet, got Dawn. He started playing four months ago, he already has three precursors. Dawn from toilet, Spark from world boss chest and Howl from a freaking mob. Screw this game and screw ANet for basing their game on RNG.

Gizmo.9178:

Gold to gems. As long as this is a thing, you have no argument.

yeah well too bad ANet do their very best to nerf almost all sources of getting income by actual gameplay. So unless you are a sadomasochist who runs dungeons 24/7 or sits on TP, good luck making gold.

grats OP, you just became part of the reason of why the game is in such state as it is right now. If your biggest complaint is RNG and poor rewards, supporting gem shop, which is the sole reason of your complaining, is the last thing you should do.

paid expansion = more money for ANet to release, you know, actual meaningful content. They could easily have, lets say, two years cycle of expansions with LS as filler, sort of what Blizzard started to do in MoP.

no expansion = fully expect the furthering of Gemstore crap

IPhyton.2348:

Dont want this to become a negative post, so please behave!
Dear Anet we’ve seen that you are capable with the system used to acquire Mawdrey, can we have a bit less lottery, raffle and rng fest and some meaningful content where we work for a goal that is certain?
As a player with over 2k hours and no precursors or any drop worth more than 15g in that time. I much prefer to play content that will reward me at completion.
So please keep it mind for the next content release?!
Thanks

as long as Anet likes to bleed it’s players through the gemstore, no, you can’t have rewarding game experience.

you people have to understand one simple thing: you are not supposed to get nice stuff for playing the game. You are not supposed to get gold by in game means. The only thing you are supposed to do is to buy gems for real money. It’s obvious ANet is continuously stealth nerfing any source of in game income into oblivion.

there’s absolutely nothing wrong with killing quaggans. Actually, the lack of “kill 1000 quaggans” achievement is the real crime here.

L2P m8
counting zerker LB ranger takes literally the elemental knowledge of the game.
basically you have only to dodge RF or somehow get reflection and zerker ranger goes down in 2 seconds.

IMO (this is just from my personal experience, so don’t flame me) there is far, FAR more scrub warriors than scrub rangers.

Serbianwolf.1652:

Adrenaline is dead. Time to re-roll other class. They will understand how big mistake they did when they see no warriors around at all.

good, perhaps Lion’s Arch won’t be warriors only 24/7

once I witnessed a guy who unironically requested 7k + AP for STORY dungeon. I’ve played plenty of MMO’s but nowhere was the PVE community so rabid. You are mostly automatically scrub and kitten simply because you are in that dungeon for the first time.

Anubis.9346:

We left for Archeage because we were tired of the content of WvW. So boring after 2 years…

Hope to see a lot of people on this new game

Much love

>playing Korean P2W grindfests

I know I’m going to be eaten alive by fanboys, but the problem with T6 is actually pretty simple. T6 is needed for every end game crafting. Which means there will always be demand. Steady demand = steady profits. Which is exactly what ANet doesn’t want you to have. You are supposed to buy gold for gems, not make it in game.