Guild Wars 2

Chameleon Dude.1564:

If you’re going to make more than one character, you should actually have to play them. :s

Because the entire game is just about getting the waypoints, after you got them all you basically completed the game…

Having a sub fee is no guarantee all gemstore services will become free.
Just look at wow. You pay for the base game, the expansion AND a sub fee.

And you still have to pay real cash for certain services and cosmetics in their battle.net shop.

Pets – 10$
mounts – 20-25$
Helmets – 12$
lvl 90 boost – 50$
faction change – 25$
Appearance change – 15$
character transfer – 20$
race change – 20$
name change – 8$

Those prices are absolutely absurd considering how much money it costs just to be able play the game at all. I’d rather have the Guild Wars 2 model. Paying for some extra services but no sub fee.

Halan.7931:

Flaming.4250:

I think I will leave this clip of Shiro in action. The Guild Wars Factions opening cinematic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtP5AkrCNUI

He looks like some anime stereotype – angry long haired dude in trenchcoat with swords and crazy powers.

I’m glad that GW2 moved away from asian style.

And it was awesome.

Geneaux.9547:

seineith.7048:

To everyone else that’s commenting as such in this thread, “sexy” is subjective. One person may find super long hair attractive while another person may not, so to definitively say female human & norn toons don’t have bald options because “it’s not sexy” is fairly sexist, but I digress.

The point isn’t that it’s subjective. Subjectivity is irrelevant in that that Anet as power over what gets added in the game and the vast majority of males(and probably females players too) would likely play with female characters with hair, regardless of the length. The aversion for baldness being “sexist” is also presumptive, irrelevant, and insulting to males or females, given that character gender is not tied to a player’s gender IRL and/or social standing.

^this

Those facebook ads to it all the time. Stealing images from other games.

Well the Ventari healer, and the fact healers might be more required in HoT does indeed sound good. I remain skeptical about it though, we will see how it turns out.

Shootsfoot.9276:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Until the game gets dedicated healers and tanks, and actually makes playing them worth while, that comment from the POI has no meaning.

Not true at all.

Ok so playing as a healer or tank is viable then?

Not going to discuss this with you until you watch the video, which you obviously haven’t.

I did watch it. They say they blended everything together so you are not locked into a role, and are free to swap roles as you choose.

What ‘roles’? There is only one role: DPS.
The only other roles are Support and Control, which aren’t really indepedent roles. It’s just something a DPS does on the side. A guardian can focus almost completely on damage, and still pump out dozens of boons to everyone around them. Several classes can focus almost completely on damage while still having access to great crowd control.

That’s what I’m getting at. I totally get anet not wanting us locked into dedicated roles, but that doesn’t mean multiple roles shouldn’t exist. Which they don’t atm.

You may have watched the video, but you sure didn’t hear what they were saying.

Start at the 5 minute mark and listen carefully.

Yeah I’m going to stop here.
If you just keep dismissing everything I say and keep claiming I just didn’t watch the video or actually listen to it, this isn’t going anywhere.

Shootsfoot.9276:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Until the game gets dedicated healers and tanks, and actually makes playing them worth while, that comment from the POI has no meaning.

Not true at all.

Ok so playing as a healer or tank is viable then?

Not going to discuss this with you until you watch the video, which you obviously haven’t.

I did watch it. They say they blended everything together so you are not locked into a role, and are free to swap roles as you choose.

What ‘roles’? There is only one role: DPS.
The only other roles are Support and Control, which aren’t really indepedent roles. It’s just something a DPS does on the side. A guardian can focus almost completely on damage, and still pump out dozens of boons to everyone around them. Several classes can focus almost completely on damage while still having access to great crowd control.

That’s what I’m getting at. I totally get anet not wanting us locked into dedicated roles, but that doesn’t mean multiple roles shouldn’t exist. Which they don’t atm.

Shootsfoot.9276:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Until the game gets dedicated healers and tanks, and actually makes playing them worth while, that comment from the POI has no meaning.

Not true at all.

Ok so playing as a healer or tank is viable then?

Until the game gets dedicated healers and tanks, and actually makes playing them worth while, that comment from the POI has no meaning.

Necrotic.7820:

I find it interesting that many of the folks here apparently siding with the OP are condoning and encouraging the very same behavior they claim to be reporting.

There is a difference between being a kitten to an innocent player who just wanted to play an event, and being a kitten to a kitten.

If he just asked normally I would back away. I wouldn’t have a problem with someone wanting me to back off so he can do things his way, I have a problem with people insulting me for no reason, and if I can strike back at them without risking a ban I will.

Duke Nukem.6783:

thats what a LIVING world is, i didnt get to experience the fall of rome in real life but the italian government has repeatedly ignored my letters suggesting that they invade europe

lol

Menadena.7482:

“oh you want the event to fail and be belligerent about it … no problem”

/guild hey gang! those of you with tags wp to [waypoint] and turn them on

“Sorry but everytime you shout at me all I hear is: “complete the event!”."

When failing content is more rewarding than completing it. There is a design problem.

That being said, if I’m just playing the game normally and someone tells me to F off. I will just report/block him, and complete the event for good measure.

Because it’s not sexy

So.. gw2 is getting the trinity?

Asgeir Dragonrender.
Fights a dragon possibly the size of a small mountain, but no kittens given. Punches out a tooth the size of a truck anyway. Now that’s a bada§§

I don’t really like it either but whatever. You only spend a few seconds in the select screen anyway. It’s hardly a big deal.

Jahroots.6791:

Agreed. Norn women are much, much better looking than humans for sure.

Depends on what you are into.
I’m not really into body builder woman almost twice my size with a heavy voice lol.
For me humans are far superior in every way.

Everything is too weak at this point. It’s like hitting enemies with a wet towel.

DevilLordLaser.8619:

The Engineer’s rifle is neither good nor a rifle. It uses the rifle skin, but it’s a horrible mishmash of junk that has no idea what it wants to be or do. Three of five Engineer Rifle skills are gap-openers/control skills to help the thing keep its distance…then the autoattack is a weak Power attack and its big-damage skill is a point-blank Condition attack?

What. The. Actual. Gahkitten . Hell.

It’s a complete disgrace, and it’s also not a rifle. Now, it’s cool if the PvP guys have made the weapon class work on the character, but the Engineer rifle honestly feels, to me, like it’s more akin to what staff is for most everyone who uses staff – a collection of loosely related gimmicks tied together into a weapon which is described as “produces whatever we feel like because magic”, except in this case it’s not magic, it’s gadgets. That’s great for Engineers, which are a gadgety class, and I understand why the Engineer’s rifle is a whacky gadget-stick instead of a proper rifle…

But that doesn’t make it a rifle. Or good. Not when the big-punch skill on the gahkitten thing is completely 100% counter to every non-AA skill the thing has.

zenleto.6179:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

So much is account wide (currencies, masteries, WvW rank, skins, achievements, guilds, titles and more). Very alt-friendly.

As opposed to WoW where almost everything, even your darn friendlist (I mean seriously??) is character bound.

I keep this particular opinion to myself since I’m in a minority but all this account binding kittens me to tears. I like to play my characters and I find there’s not really a lot in the way of individual character progression. Besides leveling, of course. I’m not going to go through the list because there are shades in each feature but I don’t want to see to much more.

Progressing everything seperately for every character might be fun 2, 3 or 4 times. But not 20+ times.

Alice.5360:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Here you go

Wow! What did you stand in front of in order to be able to cut them out so well? Is there a makeshift green-screen somewhere? :P

Back then I used a trick in the HoM to get the camera really close. But nowadays I just lower the FOV slider to get the camera close enough.

Here you go

As an altoholic, I love this game.
So much is account wide (currencies, masteries, WvW rank, skins, achievements, guilds, titles and more). Very alt-friendly.

As opposed to WoW where almost everything, even your darn friendlist (I mean seriously??) is character bound.

DevilLordLaser.8619:

Can’t play until I get home from work, but the way I’ve heard it the Rev staff is incredibly weak. Absolutely pitiful damage and somewhat unimpressive healing, which is a shame for the game’s first ‘heal your friends with this!’ weapon.

That’s what beta’s are for….
The current performance of the revenant doesn’t mean a thing.

Zaron.1987:

sorrychief.2563:

tragic comedy at it’s finest

as i said wait till monday/tuesday. The real comedy will Start there <3

“where teh hell is mah stuf omg game broke!1!”

BardaTheHobo.9752:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Can’t you mail it to a friend, then let him/her mail it back to you on your main?
Probably won’t work but you can at least try :P

Mail is disabled on beta characters.

shame, oh well :P

Can’t you mail it to a friend, then let him/her mail it back to you on your main?
Probably won’t work but you can at least try :P

He is just one of those pirates wearing an eye patch to look cool. Not because he actually needs it.

Because human master race.

Jk. As Jaxom already stated: In this beta you aren’t testing how the Revenant looks, but how it plays.

No thanks, I like my longbow the way it is tank you.

arenta.2953:

killing the dream~

also if thief does get rifle, expect it to lose its stealth skills (to be replaced by the elite mastery’s skills)

Interesting, was that datamined as well?

Leablo.2651:

If people are otherwise carelessly throwing out or destroying items from inventory, it’s their own fault.

If something so insignificant bothers you so much, that’s your own problem.

krzygum.4028:

It’s like playing paintball. You are shooting but bullets are with pain only. The same goes with fighting in gw2. You swing weapons but not hitting really, at the end wins the one who makes his opponent exhausted to defeat.

Some mobs have downed state and some mobs don’t, it doesn’t mean they are dead. They respawn in the same spots after some time, just like respawns in pvp.

krzygum.4028:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

krzygum.4028:

that would require new animations (as far as melee staff is concerned ) new mechanics
lots of work

For a 50 dollar expansion I expect nothing less.

I think it’s not my quote

fixed

Slapinator.4196:

that would require new animations (as far as melee staff is concerned ) new mechanics
lots of work

For a 50 dollar expansion I expect nothing less.

Always been there.

DevilLordLaser.8619:

‘Not my cup of tea’ is different from ‘not even tangentially related to the base class’.

DevilLordLaser.8619:

threadbare hopes

That description better fits a crowd seeing a rifle in what is obviously a stick and goes to incredible mental gymnastics in an attempt to justify why a thief can’t wear a melee staff and why no one wants it.

DevilLordLaser.8619:

It has nothing to do with Thievery

90% a thief does has nothing to do with thievery. Except for the profession name and the Steal mechanic, it’s does everything an assassin does. Thief seems far more profficient in killing than it is in stealing.

DevilLordLaser.8619:

Melee staff isn’t even cool

Subjective.

I don’t mind wether it’s a staff or rifle. I like both.
I just think it’s a staff because we clearly see a thief with a staff skin that is already in the game files.

penelopehannibal.8947:

Johje Holan.4607:

In the image the rifle clearly has all of those; stock, barrel, trigger and muzzle. Its even got a strap.

The Barrel is obvious. The muzzle is partially off the image. The stock and trigger are hard to see just due to the blurring effect in the lower left of the image.

I’ve included an annotated image for those who don’t see it.

Thief isn’t getting rifle because the Revenant is getting it.

Genius!

I noticed that too.
And not only that, but the lighting seems to be different as well.

Chasind.3128:

Female chars need heavy armors like from Dragon Age, no skimpy & awesome as kitten.

While some armors in Dragon Age are good, there are a lot of kittenty ones as well.

arenta.2953:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

arenta.2953:

Lysette.4619:

Class colors are used in the background are reminiscent of theifs current trait lines backgrounds

and yet a blugeoning weapon matches a stealth class?

Yes it does. Ninja’s used bo staffs (among other weapons). And they practically invented stealth.

the bo staff was a weapon of training, not really used much by successful ninjas in the field.

It was used as a weapon as well.

arenta.2953:

(or in the case of the katana, something that 80% of japan carried around. it was still a weapon that could kill in a single hit though, unlike bo staff)

There are martial artists who can disable or even kill you with their bare hands in many different ways. I’m sure a ninja can do quite some damage with a long stick. A true martial artist can turn everything into a deadly weapon, wether it’s a razor sharp sword or a paper clip.

Kalavier.1097:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Seems fine to me

Those are awesome, how did you make them/have them made?

The pictures, not the armors. I can easily tell the armors lol.

Thanks! I Made them myself.
Got lots of them on my deviantart page.

arenta.2953:

Lysette.4619:

Class colors are used in the background are reminiscent of theifs current trait lines backgrounds

and yet a blugeoning weapon matches a stealth class?

Yes it does. Ninja’s used bo staffs (among other weapons). And they practically invented stealth.

Cyvien.8049:

How do you know the character in picture is not a staff wielding druid? Is the medium armor not druidic enough or the quiver? Please quote the source of your finding.

What class the character in the picture is, is completely irrelevant (assuming you are talking about the screenshot). The skin in that picture is still the same as the skin in that painting. And the character in that painting is a thief.

Ergo thief gets staff.

Johje Holan.4607:

In the image the rifle clearly has all of those; stock, barrel, trigger and muzzle. Its even got a strap.

The Barrel is obvious. The muzzle is partially off the image. The stock and trigger are hard to see just due to the blurring effect in the lower left of the image.

I’ve included an annotated image for those who don’t see it.

I really don’t see it sorry. The muzzle is just some ornamentation on the staff. The strap is just a painting effect, this painting is filled with similair swirls and lines.
That being said, I would still be happy if thief got a rifle after all. But if that thing in the painting is a rifle then I’m the president of the united states.

EDIT: Besides, the skin is already in the game files anyway. You can preview it, and it’s a staff. It’s the EXACT same skin, look at the ornamentations, rings and markings on it. It also has the metal caps at the end which you think are muzzles. It even has some small ribbons hanging from it which could be the strap you are seeing.

Carighan.6758:

What armor is the middle one, Windu?

Phalanx armor with Human T3 shoulders and gloves.

Gunsnroll.2657:

Berelious.3290:

That looks to me like a Rifle.

Ok to settle this once and for all, look at those 2 pictures, if you still see a rifle, a spear or wathever else than a staff, you’re blind and I feel sorry for you.
Or you’re just a troll.
And the preview show the staff in game.

Yeah I don’t get how people can possibly see a rifle in what is quite obviously just a stick.

There is no stock, barrel, muzzle, trigger or any sort of mechanism on that entire stick. How could it possibly be a rifle.

In terms if military strength:

1 – Charr.
-Huge numbers
-Tanks
-Helicopters
-Airships
-Artillery
2 – Asura.
-Golems (lots of em)
-many magic users
-Lazorz!
-lots of other powerful technology (force fields, teleporters, etc)
3 – Humans.
-Numbers (not as much as the charr but still quite a lot).
-Many magic users
-Clockwork robots
4 – Sylvari
-Many magic users (even non magic sylvari seem to have some magical abilities, such as racials)
5 – Norn
Last place since they basically have no army.

Just my 2 cents