So optional grinding is fine, but when they give you mandatory grind and story gating you complain?
Adjusted to fit the current situation more accurately.
Another important difference is that the SW grind is repeatable, it stays rewarding forever. Not so much with mastery/hero points. No one is going to farm a hero point. Once most people are done with the new maps new players are going to be screwed.
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How can you complain about “grind” and then cite the most grindy part of the game as a positive….
Is everyone else using a different definition of “grind” and I missed the memo?
At least the hearts could be solo’d at your own pace..
Are you having trouble asking map chat to help at heropoints? Are you having difficulty killing the mobs? Are you having difficulty doing the story? Help me out here.
You’ll be doing everything at your own pace, its hard to steal someone elses.
People don’t always come and help no. I’m dependent on other people willing to come and help, and some of the hero point encounters are even timed. Maybe it will be easier when I start using other classes, but on my tempest it has been hell.
Oh just ask for help and if no one replies move on and come back later (assuming you can’t do it solo). The content is very much more a group effort, communicate with the map and it really opens up a fun atmosphere – we just completed the Tarir meta event with map chat communication.
If you don’t feel like chatting to people you can just solo explore and enjoy the scenery or have smaller impacts – I went and used my Alacrity to help a few people to the poisoned food hero point and used portal to help a few folk.
Or I should just be able to enjoy the game as I have always been able to enjoy it?
The way the game was advertised to begin with?
From the FAQ when gw2 came out:
Will Guild Wars 2 be solo-able?
Yes. You will be able to advance your character to the maximum level without ever joining a group, if you so desire. Most content will be designed in a solo-friendly way, though often with mechanisms for scaling up in difficulty when more players are involved. This will give players the option to experience the game however they prefer.
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How can you complain about “grind” and then cite the most grindy part of the game as a positive….
Is everyone else using a different definition of “grind” and I missed the memo?
At least the hearts could be solo’d at your own pace..
Are you having trouble asking map chat to help at heropoints? Are you having difficulty killing the mobs? Are you having difficulty doing the story? Help me out here.
You’ll be doing everything at your own pace, its hard to steal someone elses.
People don’t always come and help no. Last night I tried farming some events but was forced to give up on all of them because no one else was doing them. I’m dependent on other people willing to come and help, and some of the hero point encounters are even timed. Maybe it will be easier when I start using other classes, but on my tempest it has been hell.
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Heh, i play 100% solo and reached dragon’s stand or whatever the last zone is, only needed help on a few hero points, but other then that i soloed 100%, i am a berserker glass cannon warrior.
Yeah right.
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This is an mmo. Of course some things are going to be “unplayable” solo.
Pretty much this.
Except that group content should be content that begs repeating, which means incremental, updated, or RNG rewards. This creates a longer-term pool of players who want to do the content. When such content is for one-and-done rewards like Hero Points, you’ve got a situation where anyone who is not in on the initial wave-front of players doing them is behind the eight ball. Group content is fine, but developers ought to be selective about what they use it for. A system that unlocks a key feature of your expansion should be accessible to all, regardless of when they play it.
Indeed, that’s where all this group content fails.
Group content needs to be repeatable. No one is going to farm a hero point, so once most players are done with the content, or whenever there aren’t many players around you are screwed. Hero Points/Masteries are not group content.
As for events, some of them need to be scaled for groups. But right now all of them are, it needs to be like the events in Orr and other central tyria zones. There need to be both normal events (defend outpost, escort npc) and group events (kill wyvern boss, assault mordrem stronghold). And they should be scaled accordingly.
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GW2: run around casually picking flowers, killing some mobs along the way, doing some hearts, viewing some vistas. Come across an event, do it, a couple of people show up, do it with you. Go back to your frolicking after event is over.
HoT: run past every mob because some of them can 3 shot you even in full heavy ptv gear, only do events with 10+ people because the mobs are so obnoxious the only way they are worth the hassle is if you can upscale some of them to champs to get bags and spawn extra to tag them for more exp for masteries. Once event is over, hope you have someone who pins and moves the zerg to the next event. Otherwise, afk at an uncontested wp until an event starts.
it’s not a “get good” issue, the entire pacing of the game was changed.
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I hate to harsh your mellow, bro, but if it was like a leveling cap, the elite specs would require XP. I have never heard of a level cap increase that requires you to go do special challenges across four different maps, some of which are gated behind XP just to access them at all, to level up your character.
^This.
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That’s all for now. They did say that raids will be a direct continue to the story. So now we wait for raids I guess.
kitten? So you need raids to finish the story?
Who thought that was a bright idea? Because ending the personal story with a dungeon was such a popular decision amirite?
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I’ll just qoute someone else on this as he explained it better than I could:
Massively Multiplayer Online game.
The “Massively Multiplayer” simply refers to the sheer number of people able to play the game, simultaneously.
It doesn’t suggest how they should play it.
As opposed to a single-player (or a small group) game only being capable of allowing one player (or a small group of players) to play the same game, at the same time.
It isn’t intended to imply that all, or even some, of those players have to play together, on the same side, as a group.
…and in fact, in older multiplayer games, the two, or four, people who played them together were very often playing against (not with) each other.
Of course, people can play MMOs together, on the same team and that can be great.
However, it shouldn’t be obligatory, just to experience the content and that was never what the term was invented to imply.
If it has become that way, in some games, that is mostly due to logistics and/or player requests.
It is not due to the developers trying to adhere to some made-up definition of “MMO”.
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I just went tried to farm some events to get my Exalted Lore for the next story mission (story gating sucks btw).
Turned out it was impossible. Apparantly I was the only one doing events, I found events all over the map but there was not a single player doing them. And since soloing them is nigh impossible as most are scaled for entire armies, it was virtually impossible to progress.
This is going to be quite a big problem when most of the players are done with HoT and new players find themselves in near empty maps. Anet seriously needs to rethink event scaling in HoT.
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It cost 400 hero points to fully unlock an elite spec for a single toon. Now imagine, if you have 10 toons; wanna unlock elite specs for all of them? U have to perform each individual hero challenge 10 times over. And many of these hero points challenges require a decently sized group; that would be a serious issue in the near future, when the hype wears off and map becomes dead.
U have to think long term.
Indeed, I want every spec. Getting 9×400 hero points is going to suck.
Especially since most of them can’t even be solo’d.
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No where in the definition of MMO does it state that that people have to play together. It merely means that alot of people are on at the same time. It is their narrow minded folks that assume that it means ‘must play with other people’.
After completing the first quest in Verdant Brink the game shut down to install another patch. When I logged back on I was back in The Silverwastes and now I can’t enter Verdant Brink anymore, as the only way to enter was by starting a quest I already completed….
GG anet.
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(Silver platter) here yah go. The whole game unlocked for you. Enjoy.
People keep repeating this like programmed drones…
specs are not content, they are the means to play it. It’s not that I don’t want to work for something, I don’t mind that, I just want my spec while doing it.
I want to play hot with a Chronomancer, not play hot and get a chronomancer at the end.
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The content is what you play, the elite spec is how how play it.
Having to play a large portion of the new content with your old spec of the last three years is absurd. Having the new content invalidated isn’t the point, not being able to play it with the elite specs is the point.
^This guy gets it.
I don’t mind working for something, I just want to use my spec while doing it.
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At first I liked the mystery of ‘E’.
Who he is, what his agenda is, etc etc.
But I really stopped caring. Anet waited way too long with this E business.
That being said, I doubt it’s an exalted. ‘E’ once grabbed Marjory in Divinity’s Reach.
If a large glowing non-humanoid creature in golden armor with energy tentacles moved through the streets of DR I think Marjory and other people would have noticed lol.
EDIT: Besides the article states the Exalted were lying dormant for a long time and didn’t become active until the Master of Peace and Glint’s Egg approached them. ‘E’ was active long before that.
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The final battle in the living story was in a cave sealed by the Forgotten…
The golden city from the trailers is referred to even by developers as the Forgotten City.
I know it could just mean that the city’s existence has been forgotten, but with a race of that name connected to lore, they probably would have named it lost city or something.
Also, if you look closely to their appearance, you might notice, that the Exalted don’t have legs, but rather a tail-like lower body…
Well it turned out they are neither.
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Do they really have these encounters so tightly tuned?
Yes.
…Because at one point they thought dungeons would be challenging content too.
They were, the first 30 days after launch.
Indeed. Raids will probably be very hard, for a month or so. Then people are farming it in exotics…
Just look at dungeons, pretty difficult early on. Now there are people soloing them in rares. Or Tequatl, impossible to kill in the beginning, people are farming it now.
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If such a thing was stated, it was a relatively-obscure interview or players stating it. Certainly such has never been said in-game nor in any interview I know of, and I’ve been collecting interviews to create a cache of them.
Then I take it back, my bad.
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Elder Dragons and the Six Gods are not related at all. That theory has been debunked and bludgeoned to death long ago, after years of discussion.
Then to avoid making the discussion stale, lets return to the topic of Mordremoth. Jormag, Kralkatorrik, and Primordius are all awake. They have all been consuming magic for some time now. Why does it seem like Mordremoth is so much stronger, even at a just waking stage?
To add to what Konig said: I believe it was once stated that everytime an Elder Dragon falls it releases a massive amount of ambient magic into the world, which in turn empowers the other elder dragons. If that’s true then the less elder dragons there are, the stronger they get.
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You can only select an elite specialization in the third slot, which unlocks at lvl 71.
So as long as you are lvl 71+ and have 175 hero points you are good to go.
Although if you spent all your skill points before the HP/skills/traits/spirit shards mess that nobody was too communicative about you are puppied. My 80s average about 40 HP.
My older 80s characters had so many skill points and still all their traits/skills. No problem for me :P
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No, PvE are a bunch of people that play the same puzzle over and over again and expect the world for it. Gear scores, Best In Slot, Player priority, and ever other corruption of MMOs has been a direct result of PvE, so please spare me that its the PvP players that are the big bad wolf among the sheep. There are plenty of other games where PvE is the center of the universe … GW2 is/was not one of them.
Your continued toxic and condescending attitude towards pve players just reaffirms what I said earlier.
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Not really, rangers can utilize the power of nature, and that includes space. Simple as that.
I disagree. If you’re going to be that loose with the powers of a ranger, why not have them command the elements? Water is nature? Wind is nature? Earth is nature? Fire is nature?
As draxynnic already explained indepth, Rangers do use elemental powers. The reason they don’t do it as much as elementalists is because Rangers decided to specialize in different aspects of nature.
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So no one is answering how a ranger can now perform dervish magic. This just reminds me how stupid the racial elite is lorewise that suddenly thousands of humans can master dervish magic despite ANET’s insistence that mastering magic was like getting a PhD.
The human racials are Prayers. When I turn into a reaper of grenth, I do not invoke this magic myself. I simply ask Grenth to turn me into a reaper, and Grenth granted it. Even though the six gods have distanced themselves from our world, they still answer prayers.
I’d like to qoute a small conversation from Game of Thrones on this one: Melisandre:You should not have this power. Thoros of Myr:I have no power. I ask the Lord for His favor, and He responds as He will.
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Seems logical, so to clarify you’re not lockout of the raid instance itself just the rewards ?
That is correct. You will still be able to do the raids as many times as you want. You simply won’t get the special rewards for clearing it more than once per week.
Ah good, so you are at least still able to train and get better at them when you are not trying to get the rewards. And possibly help others in the process. That’s good.
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