Guild Wars 2

Lucky.9421:

Guesting is a feature.

Point being?

I wholeheartly agree.

Yes it is, this overflow system is so incredibily stupid. It makes it impossible for most people to even get a chance to win this event.

Yeeehaaawww, Desolation!

I’ve been trying to get into the mainworld on my server (Desolation) for over a day, this is bullkitten.

I don’t get it, am I the only one here who has no lag whatsoever? (And yes, there are a ton of people around me, still no lag). I use medium settings btw.

I love it as well, but still, 15 minutes seems a little too short. I’m not sure about this but aren’t raids supposed to take long?

The Guild Wars happened even before the events of gw1. They have absolutely nothing to do with both games at all. The reason why this game is called guild wars is beyond me.

You realize this isn’t just about the destruction of ascalon, but about the war in general do you? The war that ended only a year ago.

RyuDragnier.9476:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

A piece of the novel Edge of Destiny:
“Is that how you fight?” Logan growled at the legionaire. “Four on three? Five on four?”
Rytlock shrugged. “We fight to win. Forgeign concept to you humans, I know.”

Oh really rytlock? Well then stop complaining about the foefire, fight to win remember?

Except the foefire didn’t win humanity anything. It was a desperate attempt by a desperate man who was stuck in a desperate situation to avoid the slaughtering of his people by charr…by slaughtering them himself with a single spell. Regardless of how you look at it, the Foefire was a very stupid event by a very stupid king who really should have fought to the last man, and it won humanity ABSOLUTELY NOTHING (meaning the complaining is justified by Rytlock). I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t curse the people I care about to fight for all eternity and relive their deaths over and over. -_-

War tactics are not just about gaining things, they are also about making sure your enemy doesn’t gain anything. Ever heard of the tactic “Scorched Earth”? If we can’t have ascalon, no one can. If you are about to loose your territory/land, you make sure the enemy can’t use it either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_earth

I’m not saying I completely agree with the foefire, but the charr are the last who should complain about it. They were the ones who unleashed a weapon of mass destruction and slaughtered/enslaved many men, women and children because of “fight to win”.

A piece of the novel Edge of Destiny:
“Is that how you fight?” Logan growled at the legionaire. “Four on three? Five on four?”
Rytlock shrugged. “We fight to win. Forgeign concept to you humans, I know.”

Oh really rytlock? Well then stop complaining about the foefire, fight to win remember?

Lostwingman.5034:

fellyn.5083:

Copestetic.5174:

My number one reason is…

Because after all the crap your character/Humans go through in GW1, how could I ever be happy playing as something that single-handedly decimated the Human race? Plus I had ( and still have ) an odd fascination with killing them over and over and over again. Even here in GW2.

Ask Jaw Smokeskin, Blaze Bloodbane, Ghast Ashy-poo, and ole’ Red Eye. They hated me, and I them.

Those are some of the better reasons to play a charr. You’re aware that the humans took the land from the charr in the first place right?

And the Charr took all of their land from someone else before that, your point?
Also your talking about the difference between being driven out of a territory and committing mass genocide and torture.

^
Also, the race that lived on those lands before the charr were the Forgotten.

Would be cool if Scarlet spawned in front of the new Tequatl. We could all watch, share popcorn, as we watch scarlet get eaten by a dragon.

Red Tree.1936:

a race option that (believe it or not) many people actually like.

Well, not really..

Creld.8702:

Is it blue? I hope it’s blue. Blue is a nice color for being buried under a 2 ton dragon minion that will devour your soul and make you want to rage at the universe for your multiple untimely demises.

It also nicely reflects all the Fine(blue) gear you will get.

Fair enough, I’m just suprised that’s all.

Not sure if trolling or..

Making Tequatl stronger and giving us an LFG tool is great and all, but to give this it’s own update and forum section? Seems a bit too much, this update isn’t that significant. Seems like everything this update has to offer can easily be discussed on other parts of the forum.

RyuDragnier.9476:

But yet people are blaming the current Charr for something their ANCESTORS did. Hypocrites, don’t you think?

As I said before, I only use this argument because the same argument is used against humans. In gw1 the charr were always the bad guys, and when gw2 came people are suddenly all like it’s actually the humans who are the bad guys. No, just no.

Besides, the current charr aren’t completely innocent either, the war ended only a year ago. the current generation is the same one that tried to burn down Ebonhawke.

locoman.1974:

Thing is… those things were done 250 years ago, so basically people are saying that it’s bad to blame humans from taking away charr lands because it was generations ago, and yet people are reacting bad to Charr from this generation for things that others of the same race did 250 years ago

I don’t know about everyone else but the reason I still blame the charr is because many people still blame the human race, the war with the charr ended only a year ago and the charr weren’t only planning to take back their land, they intended to destroy orr and kryta as well, which wasn’t part of their former territory.

locoman.1974:

As far as I know there are no signs in game that recent human prisoners during the war were misstreated or tortured.

Actually, there is a human in the black citadel (forgot his name) that lives in the Gladium Canton, if you talk to him he tells you he was imprisoned by the charr for years. He was only a merchant but they imprisoned him simply for being human.

fellyn.5083:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

LHound.8964:

Awesome lore, awesome philosophy,

“centuries ago one nation of humans took our lands, lets hold the current generation responsible for what happened hundreds of years ago and slaughter every human nation!”

Great philosophy and lore right there.

fellyn.5083:

You’re aware that the humans took the land from the charr in the first place right?

Centuries ago yes, you can’t blame the current generation (or the gw1 generation) for what happened such a long time ago. Most lands/nations in the real world once belonged to someone else, that doesn’t mean we can just throw the current inhabitants out.

So? Doesn’t change the fact that in Guild Wars lore that’s what happened. I’m not sure why comparisons to reality matter.

I’m saying this because people keep justifying the Charr’s genocide with “..but the humans took their land first!”

LHound.8964:

Awesome lore, awesome philosophy,

“centuries ago one nation of humans took our lands, lets hold the current generation responsible for what happened hundreds of years ago and slaughter every human nation!”

Great philosophy and lore right there.

fellyn.5083:

You’re aware that the humans took the land from the charr in the first place right?

Centuries ago yes, you can’t blame the current generation (or the gw1 generation) for what happened such a long time ago. Most lands/nations in the real world once belonged to someone else, that doesn’t mean we can just throw the current inhabitants out.

-I don’t like beast races in general
-They are hideous
-Their running animation makes it look like you move as slow as molasses
-They stand like hunchbacks
-ugly armor

It’s a bow….

Yet another thread where someone complains about complaints..

/sigh

Anet barely communicates unfortunately.

anzenketh.3759:

This is due to crafting levels eventually going to 500. Give it time it will adjust itself so that you can craft to 80 again. When all professions are at 500.

This could be it, a warning would have been nice though. I was lucky enough to craft all my alts to 80 before this nerf. Not everyone will be so lucky.

Weird, I always manage to get 10 levels out of cooking.

Serious response: Super no

Caledas.5387:

Why do we care that queen Jennah has blocked this she is not the Queen of anything other than what’s left of human lands. The gate is in Charr controlled lands. Jennah isn’t the Queen of the Asura, Charr, Norn or Sylvari. Why should she be the one to stop them from going wherever they want. If the other races want to go through they should be, just because humans are afraid shouldn’t stop everyone else.

And knowing that the Sylvari are immune to the curruption why would you stop them (or would they die immediately?)

( yes I know it’s a content issue but all we hear about is human this human that)

Lol charr controlled lands…

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Sadly, ArenaNet cannot produce content fast enough for it to make sense for how fast we go through content.

They could if they either stop spending all their time and effort on festivals and the super mario box, or make actual expansions to prevent players from racing through the content in a few days.

Nuka Cola.8520:

goldenwing.8473:

ANet does not have a “target group”. Point blank questions to the developers regarding marketing segmentation are ignored.

The quotes from ANet indicate they see the playerbase as one entity.

Which means the “typical” GW2 player is one that has the title: Golden God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals Been There Done That Respected Achiever Dungeon Master who shoots rainbow ponies in WvW, while wearing a Super Adventure Box backpack except when competing in SPvP. And otherwise enjoys running with a large pack of lag inducing zergs with pitchforks trying to ensure every bi-monthly event loop fails in order to fund their gotta-craft-em-all ascended weapon for their one and only one alt who happens to be a warrior in order to successfully PuG using the soon-to-be-implemented™ in-game LFG.

lol that was good.

And true.

Erasculio.2914:

DiogoSilva.7089:

What has this game turned into?

The game has turned into something that is not meant for you.

Have you played the original Guild Wars? I did. Once in a while, a new player would appear in one of the GW1 forums saying, “Why is the level cap so low? Why can’t we keep grinding for better gear? Why aren’t there mounts?”, and we would reply telling the player that Guild Wars was not the kind of game he was asking for.

Now, the table has turned. ArenaNet realized that, whatever definition of “success” they have, it’s easier to be successful through the farmers than through other players, like you and me.

So they have changed Guild Wars 2. You are not its target audience anymore. Neither am I. GW2’s target audience are the farmers, grinders, addicts and exploiters who want every new content to be almost intolerable, so they can be one of the few who can endure going through it, in order to get some kind of reward and then try to show off; those players call this “dedication and effort”.

Other players are not really wanted; the kind of content they want is far more expensive and harder to make than easy mindless grind.

You hit the nail on the head. For some reason more and more content needs to be as difficult to obtain as possible just so 5% of the community can feel unique. And everyone who complains about this is accused of feeling ‘entitled’. I’m so sick of that word.

Awesome

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uuh… what do you need help with?

No offense but asking for Open World PvP is extremely arrogant and disgusting, sorry.

You are basically asking to have fun at the expense of others. There are a lot of people who enjoy PvE, and PvE alone. You want to gank/harass these people for your own pleasure, and everyone who doesn’t like that might as well take a hike and quit the game.

No, not now, not ever.

Guhracie.3419:

Jellie.6329:

I haven’t posted much on this forum, but this kind of thing makes me want to stop playing this game. Not the issue with the patch; honestly, I could care less about accidentally resetting an achievement with some arbitrary reward. What makes me want to stop playing is the whiney, entitled responses from selfish players who clearly can’t appreciate the intense amount of time and effort required to create such a huge, polished game. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Actually, in a business relationship (which this is) a customer is, in fact, entitled to a product he or she feels is up to his or her standards. Anet isn’t doing this out of the goodness of their hearts; they’re doing it to make money. Hence the customer feedback.

I don’t agree with all the vitriol, but it’s laughable that you can stand there and wag your finger at people for daring to express that they are displeased with a product they paid money for.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

Malpractice.7850:

Woodsman.3461:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few.

Oh so its all good when the unfair is biased your way, I see.

By the way, I am not trying to justify the removal of the achievements, I couldn’t care less about 500 EoL and some more silver, I just hate the way the people in this thread have reacted to a small error which for most people will actually result in more AP, and more rewards.

If you were at 3/4 and now you are at 1/4 then great! You have got 20 free achievement points. Demanding the developers fix what is essentially an insignificant loss of progress for some people is childish and immature. If you enough progress in the first 3 days to actually care about then you have still got the achievement points to show for your efforts, and now you get to do the new easy dailies and earn more.

And yes jamesrobert, I did get the Essence of Luck

No. I got some “achievements”. I didnt get the laurels.
Others get 20 laurels.
How is that fair, at all? Why should I be punished when others get free things that takes a month to get?

The people who already completed their monthly don’t get laurels the second time.

Woodsman.3461:

Oh so its all good when the unfair is biased your way, I see.

Stopped reading right there. Your previous comment implies that you believe that either your or my party gets screwed. So people get screwed either way, if that is the case then anet has to do what’s best for most people.

That’s if we take your course of action. However, if anet just completed the monthly for everyone right now everyone will have their reward. Yes, the people who had completed it already will have slightly more, but at least the people who didn’t complete it yet don’t have to start over.

Woodsman.3461:

Dstroya.6705:

Amethyst Rose.4367:

Remillard.8691:

If the threshold for September was reduced to 2, people will not have lost time involved, people who got theirs done are not impacted. It can be flicked to 4 again for October.

Seems to me that would be a pretty easy thing to do, and addresses most of the mature complaints that I’ve read. (That is to say, I’m discounting a lot of the "WAH – Someone else got EXTRA this month. Really the only thing I consider a real problem is the time spent towards completion of the monthly meta.)

That is a brilliant suggestion, I hope arenanet is listening.

I vote for this. It seems to be the most fair option. I don’t really care about the rewards, so much as my time being wasted.

big entitled voice Oh but I finished my monthly before they added that Essence of Luck to the monthly rewards and because it only needs 2 now and I have done those already I can’t do it! That’s so UNFAIR. I am never buying gems again.. (ha, that’ll show ’em)

The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few.

Dstroya.6705:

Amethyst Rose.4367:

Remillard.8691:

If the threshold for September was reduced to 2, people will not have lost time involved, people who got theirs done are not impacted. It can be flicked to 4 again for October.

Seems to me that would be a pretty easy thing to do, and addresses most of the mature complaints that I’ve read. (That is to say, I’m discounting a lot of the "WAH – Someone else got EXTRA this month. Really the only thing I consider a real problem is the time spent towards completion of the monthly meta.)

That is a brilliant suggestion, I hope arenanet is listening.

I vote for this. It seems to be the most fair option. I don’t really care about the rewards, so much as my time being wasted.

I support this as well.

Woodsman.3461:

Since it got buried by all the whining and entitlement rants in this thread I’ll quote and confirm the following.

Malediktus.9250:

There are no 10 extra laurels – completed old montlies got 10, completed new monthlies got 0 laurels.

once more for those who seem to be challenged at reading and like to whine alot:

You do NOT get 10 laurels from the new monthlies if you have completed the old ones, it simply allows those who completed the monthly before the Essence of Luck addition to get their rewards.

Guess what guys, that makes it FAIR (since so many people seem to care)

Yea because it’s not like we have to do our monthly all over again. Not to mention anets great way of handling this situation makes everything a lot better, which I have pointed out before but as you said yourself, some people are challenged at reading.

Edit: and before you say, it can be done in a few days. No, the only reason we could finish it that fast was because of the invasions.

Sinbold.8723:

If some players found an exploit that allowed them to get extra laurels, karma jugs, and mystic coins, they would be punished for grabbing that advantage the rest of the honest players wouldn’t dare try to get. But because this is not an exploit that allows others to get extra karma, coins, and laurels, well….

So much this^

Kuzzi.2198:

I can’t believe how rude and selfish most of the people on this thread have been.

I got 3/4 achievement points and I’m happy that I got to keep the achievement points I earned and now I get to do the monthly again. I’m also happy for the people who did 4/4 and got 10 extra laurels – good for them.

Someone else having 10 more laurels does not hurt me in any way. That’s like being mad at Anet for starting to give out laurels before I started playing and complaining that some people have 200+ laurels saved up…

This is no longer about just loosing some progress and missing out on rewards other people got. This is about the fact that anet made a mistake which caused a problem for many players and they decide not to remedy this situation in any way.

I’m sorry but I’m just very disappointed in them.

Timze.7980:

I expect NO more responces from Anet regarding this issue and this topic just vanishes slowly then, quite sure that is what Anet is trying now…-.-’’

I fear this is the case as well

RLHawk.3290:

difens.1326:

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

After investigation by our programmers, they have determined that the fix to this issue would be too risky and could end up making the situation worse than it is. Unfortunately, this means that we’re not able to make changes to correct the issue. We’re sorry about this and we will be implementing ways to ensure this doesn’t happen in the future.

Lazy and unprofessional excuse. Like I said in the other thread, you, as a company, do not respect us as your customers, nor you value our precious time. Lack of proper testing, lack of proper planning and stupid ambition to release new content every two weeks caused this. Fine. No more excuses, no more failures like this. You won’t see any more money from me. I don’t care for laurels or achievement points, but I do care for my time. Obviously you don’t. End of story.

This is absolutely not true, difens.1326. As a professional programmer myself (non gaming related) who rolls out updates to several clients semi-frequently, it is pretty much impossible to test EVERYTHING thoroughly enough to not have ANY bugs. If you want to make perfect software, you’ll never release anything EVER. Because it can ALWAYS be better. And yes — I’ve messed up some things that have been irreversible, like this. It’s part of the job. So you can bash on ANet or bash on me all you want, but every piece of software you use will have issues from time to time, rather you run into them or not.

And for everyone complaining about 10 or 20 laurels — what in the world is wrong with you?! You’ll get your 10 just like every other time! And if someone gets 20 (which is just speculation atm anyway afaik), why is that a problem? Isn’t our “in this together” attitude something we pride ourselves on as a GW2 community? We revive our fallen, help out strangers with tough battles, and don’t/can’t steal kills/loot/harvesting nodes. It’s certainly something I pride us on as a community and brag about to outsiders who’ve had bad experiences with MMOs. So if my fellow hero played a ridiculous amount and got his monthlies in the first 2 days of the month and gets rewarded extra, then to him I say congratulations! What is there to be envious of? They’re not taking anything from me, and I’m given everything I deserve.

If you were close to getting monthlies and had them reset, I can understand being disappointed. But if you got them that fast, you’ll have no trouble getting them in the next 27 days, and it seems like a small price to pay for all the incredible content ANet delivers constantly.

They can at least do something! Like, I don’t know, add some easier monthly options or something? Just something! anything!

Not promise a fix and then suddenly say “Sorry too risky guys, later”.

Takarazuka.3025:

Kuzzi.2198:

/snip10

The problem is that a lot of people already completed it and got their 10… and now it was reset and can do it again I believe. So they get 20 this month.

Not to mention we were promised that it would be fixed, only to get slabbed in the face.

Because of a mistake they made, many people got screwed over while other people get double rewards this month. And they won’t do anything to remedy this bad situation, this is completely unacceptable and yet we can do nothing but accept it because they are the devs.

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

After investigation by our programmers, they have determined that the fix to this issue would be too risky and could end up making the situation worse than it is. Unfortunately, this means that we’re not able to make changes to correct the issue. We’re sorry about this and we will be implementing ways to ensure this doesn’t happen in the future.

Are you kidding me!?!? This is absolutely appalling.
Promising to give us a fix we deserve only get get slabbed in the face AGAIN!

This is sloppy, incompetent and really bad PR.

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

This is definitely not intended. Thanks for the reports, all. The team is aware of this problem and they are working to resolve it.

Thanks so much, I was really kitten ed off when I saw I lost all my progress just inches away from completion.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

your ignorance is hilarious… or you’re just trolling.

Why are you talking about yourself? I thought this was about you not knowing what the word “fair” means.

Luckily, anet does know and is going to fix this issue: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Unintended-Monthly-Achievement-Rollback/first#post2763297