Guild Wars 2

Not sure how meta will be in HoT, but if it stayed as it is now, Grace of the Land would be better off giving the whole 15% amount with the activation of avatar form for 8 seconds. That way you could use it in the beginning of the fight along with spotter, FS and glyph of empowerment for some real party burst boost.

Now about Glyph of Empowerment, I still think it needs another 5% damage boost and 5% healing reduction. That way it will stay on 15% dps or healing depending on your form.

We can’t comment on it yet cause we don’t know either how the content will be or how much difference healing builds will make.

I really doubt we’ll see cleric on druid. I would personally like it if raids require cleric healers but I doubt Anet will go that deep into trinity.

If things stay as they were on DW3, for WvW I would go zealot. Healing was enough to keep a small group alive and damage was more than enough to kill people reasonably fast even with staff.

I actually like underwater combat. I don’t see why it’s getting so much hate. I understand it was really really unballanced in PvP, but in PvE its not that bad. I’d like to see more underwater PvE content, and maybe a dungeon/fractal exclusive underwater.

All we got at the moment is the krait fractal that 99.9% of the people just avoid.

vespers.1759:

Remember when Search and Rescue was a viable skill to take in some instances?

No.

It’s far from useless. On the contrary it can be pretty OP depending on your timing. It can be in the meta pve as well since it boosts your burst even more. I don’t see any reason to take QZ anymore since guards/mesms quickness is enough to melt any boss in seconds with the right group.

Serious.7083:

Does anybody use the rest of the ranger shouts, except maybe for "Search and Rescue!

Is this a joke or are you playing survival builds in pve? Strenth of pact, heal as one, sic em are shouts and are very powerful. Not sure where exactly you use one of the most useless skills in game (search and rescue)…

Just a reminder that DPS is not everything …

It’s like the people currectly asking for 2 eles in meta groups…

Elite specs are not meant to be something easy to unlock. Don’t forget HoT is an expansion, meaning you need to have finished the vanilla game before jumping to it.

If people do not want to actually play with their characters but rather lvl them up with a gazzillion tomes fine by me but don’t cry when someone that actually played content, has an easier job unlocking the elite spec…

Taku.6352:

Because it’s hard to teach an old dog some new tricks.

“META or kick, need 2 eles” …

Yes, this is a no-brainer. They should add rewards for healing, especially in WvW. No healer, will just wanna stop healing and AoE enemies just to tag and get rewards.

It will result 1) healers not doing a good job because they are AoE’ing to get loot and 2) Less and Less people will play healing/support and go back to the vanilla GW2 aka braindead dps spam.

So I recently got a new pc, using windows 10.

I run games like Witcher3 on max settings and I’m about 60fps stable.

In GW2 I get 24 fps MAX while on medium settings… It’s obviously not my PC’s problem since the issue seems to exist only in GW2. Acording to my Nvidia “autodetect” I should play the game with no problems in maxed settings, yet If I go to maxed settings FPS drop down to 9. On low settings I get like 40 fps…

I looked around and there seems to be an issue specific with windows 10 & Nvidia cards. Is there any fix/workaround the problem?

Drunk

10charrs

My biggest concern about legendary armor is that it will look absolutelly terrible just like the rest 99% legendary items.

lol

Zenith.7301:

Photinous.4628:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Everyone just think Druids are only good for healing…

People WAKE UP!

There are 2 other traitlines the ranger can pick, its old utilities and another weapon (if staff is actually needed in the first place).

What is stopping the druid to run spotter, frost spirit, maybe glyph of empowerment too, and S/A or warhorn as a second weapon set? Have that with ballanced armor stats, and you have a strong healing class with insane group support…

Just because the druid line and staff is all about healing, it does not mean that druids will just stand there spam heals…

This.

If you’re using weapons other than staff most of your druid traitline traits are obsolete, as all of them are tied to healing and no weapons other than staff heal. You would rely on celestial form to proc them, which as said already in the streams takes time and is temporary.

And celestial form does zero DPS.

If you go druid, you will kitten your damage and have no synergy whatsoever with your weapons as the staff complements none of your weapons. Staff will compete with longbow as a ranged weapon, and longbow is the dps weapon while the staff is, well, yet another hybrid weapon.

Keep living in LaLa Land though, you people with your love of hybrids are probably those bringing in rabid mesmers and rangers to groups that don’t want the dead weight.

Because swapping from staff to another weapon when everyone is healed on full so you can contribute to some dps or blast something with warhorn is too mainstream….

And of course, you know exactly how HoT content will be, so you can comment on whether or not you need pure healing build or hybrid healing build.

People, I’m serious when I’m saying that the zerker meta turned your minds into salad…

Aomine.5012:

Druid has no party-wide:

Might
Quickness
Stability
Protection
Aegis
Long duration Reflection

These are what Guardians have.

Why afraid losing to Druid, which would ONLY be useful in raid and nothing else?
Offensive and Defensive buffs are much more important than healing in 95% of the game contents.

How do you people know that the game will not change in a way where heals will be more important than protection and aegis?

You base your whole “logic” on the game as it is at the moment. A game where zerker meta rules everything, and you simply have to avoid damage. They said various times that will not be the case in HoT.

Now, I’m not saying the druid will or will not replace guardian. I hope every class will be viable or else its not healthy for the game.

My hopes are that there would be more classes able to fill the current guardian’s role, without that meaning guardians won’t be able to do it as well. I think that’s what they try to acomplish in the first place.

For instance, Guard can offer protection, aegis quickness and team might. Druid can offer much more healing and AoE controll to make up for the lack of protection and aegis, and spotter/frost spirit/Glyph of empowerment to make up for the lack of team might and quickness.

Same could go for lets say ventari, mesmer/chrono etc etc…

Glyph of Empowerment:

I would buff the base skill for another 5% and nerf its celestial counterpart for 5%. I would also make its radius 600 instead of 300.

Nemesis.6938:

but that is a valid concern – druid is either obsolete or necessary…in case of the second, i dont follow the strategy of breaking up the meta by creating an ever stronger one

Why would it be necessary?

Ventari can heal as well. Guard can heal and provide buffs such as group stab and protect. mesmer can heal. Ele can heal…

Druid is not the only healer in game. It just has 1 spec focusing on it.

stambogalizi.8356:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

24k AP warrior goes confused when we tell him to stop activating healing singet because it has a passive effect as well.

I DONT EVEN

Or you can learn that precasting signets is actually what you’re supposed to do due to the Signet Mastery trait

Yeah duh… I play a warrior I know the class….

Not the case when you activate it in Mossman when you take 3k damage….

24k AP warrior goes confused when we tell him to stop activating healing singet because it has a passive effect as well.

I DONT EVEN

Obtena.7952:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Obtena.7952:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Obtena.7952:

It’s not odd, you’ve just chosen to see what you want to see and interpret as you see fit. I’m going to do the same, but with a positive twist:

I think his point was pretty obvious and I happen to agree with it. People think it’s compelling to say that Druid is going to replace Guardian because they think it’s a clever way to justify getting good ‘stuff’ for Guardian through fearmongering. Some of us see right through that sort of nonsense because we know the difference between heals and other forms of defense; it’s important to recognize that value. Guardian isn’t replaced anytime soon for any content by any elite spec.

I’m not saying they will or will not get replaced by any class. Yet I’m not sure because I do not know how things will be in HoT, and how other support classes like Chrono. will work with the other classes.

How can you be sure that they will not get replaced by anything else? Oh- wait, you can’t.

but I do know that vanilla GW2 isn’t going to change

Let us actually play the game first, then you can cry about which spec is useless and which is not.

It’s ridiculous to think that a whole class is going to be replaced by another because of an elite spec, regardless of what parts of the game are changing or not. I don’t need to play anything to know that because it’s common sense.

You havn’t been in many MMOs have you?

I have played dozens so yeah… Expansions can alter everything… A class can go straight from the top, right to the trash bin and vise versa.

I’m not saying guard or druid will be useless or the most desired class in HoT. I don’t know that. You, or anyone else does not know that either, so keep your crying and magic guesses for yourself.

Not to mention angry nerd threads like Saiyan’s about Druids. Which is just a thread filled with insecurities and false arguments about what the ranger/druid can or can’t do and how guardian is better.

Ropechef.6192:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:
Just because the druid line and staff is all about healing, it does not mean that druids will just stand there spam heals…

yes they will

okay, bye!

Amineo.8951:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Everyone just think Druids are only good for healing…

People WAKE UP!

There are 2 other traitlines the ranger can pick, its old utilities and another weapon (if staff is actually needed in the first place).

What is stopping the druid to run spotter, frost spirit, maybe glyph of empowerment too, and S/A or warhorn as a second weapon set? Have that with ballanced armor stats, and you have a strong healing class with insane group support…

Just because the druid line and staff is all about healing, it does not mean that druids will just stand there spam heals…

And the new pets looks good also.

Indeed. Smoke-field on demand with a low cooldown, FINALLY a 1.2k ranged pet!, a fire breathing wyvern with the best animation in game (lol) and a tiger that I think gives fury/swiftness on one of its attacks.

Frostfang.5109:

The elecrtic Wyvern, it is a flying/winged beast that doesn’t do a single flying attack. Thats just sad.

People are putting pressure on a poor pet that’s not even available yet… Way to go guys…

Everyone just think Druids are only good for healing…

People WAKE UP!

There are 2 other traitlines the ranger can pick, its old utilities and another weapon (if staff is actually needed in the first place).

What is stopping the druid to run spotter, frost spirit, maybe glyph of empowerment too, and S/A or warhorn as a second weapon set? Have that with ballanced armor stats, and you have a strong healing class with insane group support…

Just because the druid line and staff is all about healing, it does not mean that druids will just stand there spam heals…

Frostfang.5109:

The elecrtic Wyvern, it is a flying/winged beast that doesn’t do a single flying attack. Thats just sad.

You guys are making it sound like only druids can heal…

Have a look at ventari, Ele, Guard, Mesmer.

I doubt druids will be needed only just for heals. I don’t see why druids should not run spotter, frost spirit and maybe also glyph of empowerment, while they still keep insane healing and support abilities.

Just because the elite spec is all about heals, it doesn’t mean that thats the only thing druids can do…

Obtena.7952:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Obtena.7952:

It’s not odd, you’ve just chosen to see what you want to see and interpret as you see fit. I’m going to do the same, but with a positive twist:

I think his point was pretty obvious and I happen to agree with it. People think it’s compelling to say that Druid is going to replace Guardian because they think it’s a clever way to justify getting good ‘stuff’ for Guardian through fearmongering. Some of us see right through that sort of nonsense because we know the difference between heals and other forms of defense; it’s important to recognize that value. Guardian isn’t replaced anytime soon for any content by any elite spec.

I’m not saying they will or will not get replaced by any class. Yet I’m not sure because I do not know how things will be in HoT, and how other support classes like Chrono. will work with the other classes.

How can you be sure that they will not get replaced by anything else? Oh- wait, you can’t.

but I do know that vanilla GW2 isn’t going to change

Did your mind turn to salad from the constant zerker meta? It must have.

In case you live under a rock for the past months, we have a new expansion coming within less than a month. GW2 Vanilla IS going to change. They said various times that the new mechanics will change the whole game and all of its content.

Let us actually play the game first, then you can cry about which spec is useless and which is not.

Obtena.7952:

It’s not odd, you’ve just chosen to see what you want to see and interpret as you see fit. I’m going to do the same, but with a positive twist:

I think his point was pretty obvious and I happen to agree with it. People think it’s compelling to say that Druid is going to replace Guardian because they think it’s a clever way to justify getting good ‘stuff’ for Guardian through fearmongering. Some of us see right through that sort of nonsense because we know the difference between heals and other forms of defense; it’s important to recognize that value. Guardian isn’t replaced anytime soon for any content by any elite spec.

I’m not saying they will or will not get replaced by any class. Yet I’m not sure because I do not know how things will be in HoT, and how other support classes like Chrono. will work with the other classes.

How can you be sure that they will not get replaced by anything else? Oh- wait, you can’t.

Bryzy.2719:

Combine these with the Regen F2 of the Fern Hound and what more do you want?

The pet to heal all the raid with no problems while I go afk and do stuff, then everyone to say “wow gz! nice healing there!”

It will be like sending a super cute dog to those hot girls sitting next to you in a coffee shop, and while they are all like “oooh- its so fluffy and cute”, you go there and say " Oh god, bad puppy, I’m sorry ladies he just ran away". The rest is so easy it gets boring after a while….

LOL

Obtena.7952:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

On the contrary, this dude is just going from thread to thread, jibber jabbering about how druids can only heal and do nothing else.

Maybe he is or isn’t, I don’t know, but I do know that’s not the point he’s trying to make with the post in THIS thread.

He’s trying to make a point? Odd.

Cause all I saw from him today were posts filled with insecurities about what druids can’t do, and what guards can.

Scroll up a bit. He refers to druids as “healing plants who occasionally offer a bit of CC”
followed by “Guards can protect you via Blinds and Stun brerakers”. Yeah, like the druid class has no blinds or stun breakers…. They were just announced for **** sake… 1 day old! How can you miss it?

But the best was “while occasionally improves party damages through Quickness + Might stacks.” Yeah, because only guard can do that, and stuff like Spotter&Frost spirit&Glyph of Empowerment are skills druids do not have access to……

MattyP.6954:

You guys do know that pvp is a team sport, right?

Anyway, I only solo queue, and I rarely run into problems with this…

Yeah, we do. Working with 4 other strangers to beat other 5 strangers.

Working with 4 other strangers to beat a dedicated experienced team who is organised, talking with eachoter on teamspeak, have a planned strategy, and where everyone knows his buddies playstyle is NOT a game.

Obtena.7952:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Saiyan.1704:

Black Box.9312:

Don’t expect much from the Dragonhunter. If you want to play something similar to the Guardian playstyle (or at least what it was meant to be), pick up either a Revenant or a Druid Ranger. You’re far less likely to be disappointed.

Druid Ranger isn’t a Guardian play style… Druids are basically a healing plant that occasionally offers CC. Guardians will protect you while also making sure you mitigate damages via Blinds/Blocks/Stability/Stun breakers while occasionally improves party damages through Quickness + Might stacks.

Why don’t you just admit that you are kitten because druids could replace support guards depending on how the game changes instead of making a fool of yourself in every post? Yeah, they are only healing plants that cant do anything else. .. You know, like spotter frost spirit team fury team swiftness team might glyph of empowerment etc etc…

OK, wait a minute here. He should stop making a fool of himself by admitting he’s wrong, based on YOUR suspicions that Guardians are being replaced by Druids in game content that we haven’t even begun to experience yet (HoT) or game content we have massive amounts of experience with where healbots aren’t necessary? That’s rich.

He’s right … Druids aren’t Guardian playstyle, REGARDLESS of whatever content you want to place them in. Vanilla GW2 isn’t changing and Guardians don’t have ‘Druid-like’ playstyle in that content. In fact, Druids are going to be completely useless in vanilla. If you think Guardians are replaced by this healbot elite, you got tunnel vision.

First of all HoT =/= vanilla GW2…

They said various times they are changing the braindead zerker meta.

I’m not saying guards will not be needed. I’m not bashing the class.

On the contrary, this dude is just going from thread to thread, jibber jabbering about how druids can only heal and do nothing else. Which of course is stupidly wrong. When given facts about the oposite (survival skills such as Signet of Stone, or offensive skills such as spotter and frost spirit), he goes on a rant about how the guardian is better or how the guardian can be compared to the druid.

He is just an angry kid that is annoyed by the fact that another class got viable support capabilities as well, and trying to dumb a whole elite spec just because of that.

You guys realise that they said things will change in HoT right?

You will not be able to just dodge evade HoT content. Healers and tanks will be needed for the new content.

If not, then pretty much all of the elite specs are useless, zerker meta will still rule the game, and they wasted tons of time and money on nothing…

Stinja.9612:

@Yelloweyedemon Aside from the fact reaper feels rather completed, Because the game is incredibly friendly for the casual solo player and you’re assuming that everyone in the population even cares about group-play.

Infact, I would argue most people play open world content and just group up for the fun of it because you can literally run around without traits if you wanted to in the open world.

Yeah you’re right, this thread was just “rate your fav elite specs” anyways.

:P

Judge za.7601:

GW2 not having a trinity was one of it’s biggest strengths IMO.

And the zerker meta it’s greatest weakness.

I don’t wanna play an MMO made for 14 year olds anymore. It got boring within a month… It lasted 3 years…

+1 to this. Needs to go back to solo q. This is just stupid and forcing hardcore elements on a very casual friendly game.

Team q for premades, solo q for solo players.

I would rather have the skill called animal form instead and you transform into a giant bear healing people with roars

Kronos.2560:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

I fail to see how reaper is an A class spec. Why would I want a reaper in my group/raid. What can they bring to the group that others cant do better?

25 vuln, burning, crazy tank and self sustained damage/25 might with near 100% crits. Even if it doesnt provide others boons, it hits like a truck and can stand out front and keep the agro. I’d be more then happy to have one in group.

Providing the game will stay as it is and jack of all trades will be viable… Cause if its not, there are better dps and better tank specs out there and now we also have healers.

I fail to see how reaper is an A class spec. Why would I want a reaper in my group/raid. What can they bring to the group that others cant do better?

Saiyan.1704:

Black Box.9312:

Don’t expect much from the Dragonhunter. If you want to play something similar to the Guardian playstyle (or at least what it was meant to be), pick up either a Revenant or a Druid Ranger. You’re far less likely to be disappointed.

Druid Ranger isn’t a Guardian play style… Druids are basically a healing plant that occasionally offers CC. Guardians will protect you while also making sure you mitigate damages via Blinds/Blocks/Stability/Stun breakers while occasionally improves party damages through Quickness + Might stacks.

Why don’t you just admit that you are kitten because druids could replace support guards depending on how the game changes instead of making a fool of yourself in every post? Yeah, they are only healing plants that cant do anything else. .. You know, like spotter frost spirit team fury team swiftness team might glyph of empowerment etc etc…

Ojyh.9842:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Ojyh.9842:

I am sure it’s been revealed last because they had to rework it. It should have been revealed between the Reaper and the Tempest, but they had to rework it.

I thought they would come with something super innovative, they had to take time to make something new that takes a lot of efforts, with unique mechanics, improving the pets etc…
But no. Obviously they just didn’t know what they wanted to do with that spec, that’s why it took them so long. In the end we have a spec that has nothing really innovative machanically, they just added healing healing healing on everything, they completely missed the nature, plants and animals theme…

It has clearly been rushed. If it hasn’t been rushed, then it’s even worse because it means they put a lot of efforts into something they didn’t manage to make good !

How does it feel rushed when it makes the class greatelly desirable?

Druid is by far the best healer in game. Only ventari can compete and that only in sustain healing maybe, still not a better healer than druid. Raids will require druid(s). WvW will require druids. PvP will require Druid. Even in open world pve/fractals/dungs druids will be of great help, might even be needed (healers not druids in general, but you get the picture) if they make the game actually challenging by updating the current dungs/fracts.

I didn’t think they’d make druids solid healers, but I’d rather have it as it is now, than have it as a shapeshifting damage dealer that would be all show and nothing actual useful to the table.

Stop complaining. Rangers just got a VIP ticket straight to the top of the meta. First class and all.

Nothing makes it particularly desirable to me.
The best healer ? What’s the point if we don’t need it ? We can already get a lot of heals without any healer specialized character, and even more effective active defensive skills, boons etc.
Arenanet will make sure we’re not obliged to have one specific profession or specialization to complete content anyway. But I do admit he might be useful anyway.

It doesn’t change the fact that nothing in this spec is particularly new, fun or creative, and I don’t like the astral theme they went for.

We don’t need it providing the game stays as it is at the moment. Think they made sure it won’t happen once HoT launches.

In a challenging content you will need heals (or so they say) so yeah, druid will blend in perfectly. Plus its not just healing class. Huge dps buffs as well (frost spirit, Spotter, Glyph of empowerment), team cc breaker, smoke field, fire field etcetcetc…

I’m not the one who started a thread filled with insecurities, trying so desperatelly to dumb an elite spec saying they can only do 1 thing and when replied otherwise, de-railing the thread by comparing the elite spec to the guardian and try to make it feel less powerful, while completelly ignoring game-changing facts like taking into consideration 9 new elite specs and their synergy.

But yeah… whatever I guess? ..lol

Saiyan.1704:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Saiyan.1704:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Saiyan.1704:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Saiyan.1704:

Unlike the Guardian, the Druid lacks numerous mitigative abilities like Blinds, Blocks, Invulnerability etc. The Druid will get CC’d and bursted down so fast, it’ll be laughable.

Signet of stone
Protect me
Shared Anguish
SotW (stability)
RaO (stab)
GS#4 (one of the best blocks in game)
Various damage mitigations from WS traitline
Protection after dodge rolls
Various (all sorts of) utilities from pets, like Blinds, Weaknesses, Dazes, Fears, Stuns, Taunts….

Want me to continue? …

Yes continue, but I’m looking for more of a “how to” rather than a list of traits and skill that the Ranger already has. I don’t main Ranger remember? A skill list isn’t telling me anything.

All the items you listed are from what the Ranger already has. It’s not like the Ranger is going to automatically give 5k heals per sec to his allies, due to his Elite specialization. It’s hard to believe that the Ranger has everything to gained and nothing to lose.

You said that ranger has no way to mitigate damage, and deal with CC. I just listed you various skills and traits that prove that to be laughably wrong, and that’s the skills that quickly came to mind.

You obviously have no knowledge on ranger, yet you did create a thread saying jibber jabber about what the class can do.

The class utilizes self sustains via large amounts of CC and Survival skills (what you listed) that’s already part of the Ranger’s Meta – Not Druid.

What I want to know is, what are you going to trade in to gain the Druid skill set? I’ve seen the Ranger meta, a meta full of CC, Power and self sustains.

What is the Druid going to bring?
What tree are you going to sacrifice to gain these items?
What role does it have?
Is the Meta Ranger going to be the same with the exception of “moar team heelz”?

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Some may think that you are just annoyed that guardian might lose his spot to a druid.

Then those people don’t know me at all

Druid is not going to replace Guardian for what that bunker Guard build already does.
I would be happily surprised if the Ranger turns out to be a dps warrior but, he’s not going to outclass the Guardian. He’s not going to outclass Shout Warrior. He’s not going to outclass Revenant. Druid is going to offer heals, heals, and.. .. selfish utilities.

You are already throwing a class in the trash by jibber jabbering about what other classes can do, completelly ignoring the fact that we have not played the class and do not yet know how elite specs will change the game.

I’m done replying to you. Keep on hating.

There’s the difference with replying with facts, like what the meta class already offers, as oppose to replying what the class is going to improve on….

That’s what I’m looking for in terms of a response from you – tell me what the Druid’s strength is and tell me what its weaknesses are..

We haven’t played the new Dragonhunter Changes but I can absolutely tell you what our strengths are, what trees we’re going to pick and what our weaknesses will be.

Can you not do the same with your main, given the Druid specialization that you’ve seen?

No I will not. I’d rather show it in-game when I’m playing.

Theory =/= action.

Untill then, you are just a kid who is mad because a class may now be able to fill your main class role as well, giving the game more options.

And looking at your recent posts, I’m probably spot-on.

Saiyan.1704:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Saiyan.1704:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Saiyan.1704:

Unlike the Guardian, the Druid lacks numerous mitigative abilities like Blinds, Blocks, Invulnerability etc. The Druid will get CC’d and bursted down so fast, it’ll be laughable.

Signet of stone
Protect me
Shared Anguish
SotW (stability)
RaO (stab)
GS#4 (one of the best blocks in game)
Various damage mitigations from WS traitline
Protection after dodge rolls
Various (all sorts of) utilities from pets, like Blinds, Weaknesses, Dazes, Fears, Stuns, Taunts….

Want me to continue? …

Yes continue, but I’m looking for more of a “how to” rather than a list of traits and skill that the Ranger already has. I don’t main Ranger remember? A skill list isn’t telling me anything.

All the items you listed are from what the Ranger already has. It’s not like the Ranger is going to automatically give 5k heals per sec to his allies, due to his Elite specialization. It’s hard to believe that the Ranger has everything to gained and nothing to lose.

You said that ranger has no way to mitigate damage, and deal with CC. I just listed you various skills and traits that prove that to be laughably wrong, and that’s the skills that quickly came to mind.

You obviously have no knowledge on ranger, yet you did create a thread saying jibber jabber about what the class can do.

The class utilizes self sustains via large amounts of CC and Survival skills (what you listed) that’s already part of the Ranger’s Meta – Not Druid.

What I want to know is, what are you going to trade in to gain the Druid skill set? I’ve seen the Ranger meta, a meta full of CC, Power and self sustains.

What is the Druid going to bring?
What tree are you going to sacrifice to gain these items?
What role does it have?
Is the Meta Ranger going to be the same with the exception of “moar team heelz”?

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Some may think that you are just annoyed that guardian might lose his spot to a druid.

Then those people don’t know me at all

Druid is not going to replace Guardian for what that bunker Guard build already does.
I would be happily surprised if the Ranger turns out to be a dps warrior but, he’s not going to outclass the Guardian. He’s not going to outclass Shout Warrior. He’s not going to outclass Revenant. Druid is going to offer heals, heals, and.. .. selfish utilities.

You are already throwing a class in the trash by jibber jabbering about what other classes can do, completelly ignoring the fact that we have not played the class and do not yet know how elite specs will change the game.

I’m done replying to you. Keep on hating.

Rabe.2456:

So what exactly was so surprising? Looked all pretty generic to me.

A dedicated healing class in a hack n’ slash game

phys.7689:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

TheRandomGuy.7246:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

TheRandomGuy.7246:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

dsslive.8473:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Tuntz.8953:

I moved from my last game to GW2 exactly because i was tired to wait for hours for healers.

Just curious where do people find this info on todays MMOs. Cause even on low population games, healers are probably the easiest role to find. Much harder to find a good dps or a good tank, especially dps since most challenging content has a “timer”, meaning if you dont kill a boss in the given times it goes HULK SMASH.

Saying that you cba waiting hours for healers, just shows that you are clueless about MMOs and how they evolved.

Especially when a healer can just “respec” to become solid dps and vise versa, and especially when talking about the highest population MMO (GW2) and its mega-server mechanics….

Well, not all games are the same, and while it wasn’t a true mmo, in gw1 you could definately spend quite some time before you actually got a healer. Not to mention one ahs to take into account what region and time of day you play, if you’re not playing on peaktimes it will obviously take longer. Anyhow, kinda non-relevant , but jsut thought to mention that there are games out there where finding a healer isn’t the easiest to do.

Even if there are such games out there, Large MMOs are not like that.

Saying that you wonr be able to find healers in GW2 where there are unlimited amounts of players 24/7 is just laughable. This is just a typical doom and gloom thread created by the typical whiny people.

I played large MMOs with tanks and healers. Average q time for anything other than a healer is around 20-30 minutes at peak hours and up to an hour during the rest of the day. And that’s if you got a good healer. If party got unlucky you have to kick him and start again.

30 mins q time on a large MMO at peak times for top-end daily run dungs?

Something’s not right here…….

If you q alone as a dd and there are not that many healers that’s what you get. Of course there were occasions when q popped up in 10 minutes or so. It is still 9 minutes longer than gw2.

If you seriously believe that you will need 10 mins to find a healer in GW2, I’m wasting my time here…

The reason people dont play healers is because the majority of players are not interested in the playstyle. Tell me what game is it you play as dps where you dont wait for healers?

Lately? Lotro, SWTOR, RIFT, ESO.

In all those except for rift, I was Q’ing as a dps most of the time. Plus in rift, you had to find dedicated support players too, not just trinity. Q times in all those were pretty much nothing.

Plus if it takes too long, you can always re-spec from dps to tank/heal/support. It’s not like you have no options…

Stop crying like 10year olds (unless you are) and be glad we seem to have left this braindamaged hack n’ slash so called zerker meta behind…

Last I checked WoW had servers. Lots of them. Doesn’t that cut the population in parts?

Even if I’m wrong since I havn’t checked the game in a long while, it’s a dying game. Most of its playerbase just logs in for X expansion, stays for a month and leaves for another year again.

In its heyday, you were drowned in players who wanted to join you no matter your role. Thats the case in GW2.

Why so much “love” for reaper? Yes, very good for solo clearing, but why would you take it in a group? Its just a selfish (well in comparison with other dps classes) dps class.

Its definatelly far from being on the top elite specs…

Saiyan.1704:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Saiyan.1704:

Unlike the Guardian, the Druid lacks numerous mitigative abilities like Blinds, Blocks, Invulnerability etc. The Druid will get CC’d and bursted down so fast, it’ll be laughable.

Signet of stone
Protect me
Shared Anguish
SotW (stability)
RaO (stab)
GS#4 (one of the best blocks in game)
Various damage mitigations from WS traitline
Protection after dodge rolls
Various (all sorts of) utilities from pets, like Blinds, Weaknesses, Dazes, Fears, Stuns, Taunts….

Want me to continue? …

Yes continue, but I’m looking for more of a “how to” rather than a list of traits and skill that the Ranger already has. I don’t main Ranger remember? A skill list isn’t telling me anything.

All the items you listed are from what the Ranger already has. It’s not like the Ranger is going to automatically give 5k heals per sec to his allies, due to his Elite specialization. It’s hard to believe that the Ranger has everything to gained and nothing to lose.

You said that ranger has no way to mitigate damage, and deal with CC. I just listed you various skills and traits that prove that to be laughably wrong, and that’s the skills that quickly came to mind.

You obviously have no knowledge on ranger, yet you did create a thread saying jibber jabber about what the class can do.

Some may think that you are just annoyed that guardian might lose his spot to a druid (thing that wont happen cause they are different classes with different roles anyways)…

Dardamaniac.1295:

The thing about stability is what bothers me the most.. Its true that offers no stability at all but offers an aoe stun break… Check the notes again

Rangers have good access to stability as it is already.

Strenght of the pack can go down to 42 s cd.

SotW also offers stability and its cooldown can be reduced also (from 60s) down to 40? Can’t remember exactly atm.

TheRandomGuy.7246:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

TheRandomGuy.7246:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

dsslive.8473:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Tuntz.8953:

I moved from my last game to GW2 exactly because i was tired to wait for hours for healers.

Just curious where do people find this info on todays MMOs. Cause even on low population games, healers are probably the easiest role to find. Much harder to find a good dps or a good tank, especially dps since most challenging content has a “timer”, meaning if you dont kill a boss in the given times it goes HULK SMASH.

Saying that you cba waiting hours for healers, just shows that you are clueless about MMOs and how they evolved.

Especially when a healer can just “respec” to become solid dps and vise versa, and especially when talking about the highest population MMO (GW2) and its mega-server mechanics….

Well, not all games are the same, and while it wasn’t a true mmo, in gw1 you could definately spend quite some time before you actually got a healer. Not to mention one ahs to take into account what region and time of day you play, if you’re not playing on peaktimes it will obviously take longer. Anyhow, kinda non-relevant , but jsut thought to mention that there are games out there where finding a healer isn’t the easiest to do.

Even if there are such games out there, Large MMOs are not like that.

Saying that you wonr be able to find healers in GW2 where there are unlimited amounts of players 24/7 is just laughable. This is just a typical doom and gloom thread created by the typical whiny people.

I played large MMOs with tanks and healers. Average q time for anything other than a healer is around 20-30 minutes at peak hours and up to an hour during the rest of the day. And that’s if you got a good healer. If party got unlucky you have to kick him and start again.

30 mins q time on a large MMO at peak times for top-end daily run dungs?

Something’s not right here…….

If you q alone as a dd and there are not that many healers that’s what you get. Of course there were occasions when q popped up in 10 minutes or so. It is still 9 minutes longer than gw2.

If you seriously believe that you will need 10 mins to find a healer in GW2, I’m wasting my time here…