Guild Wars 2

Nini.8941:

This cant be working as intended. Can we at least get a confirmation on that it being looked at.

Yes, exactly.

Aerlen.5326:

So, the fact the “Knock Out” option didn’t appear for me near Vorpp when his shield was down was NOT a bug despite the fact it should have and hasn’t popped up for others when it should?

Thats a bug. 4 times after I disabled his shield I got no “press F option” and it appeared only on my 5th try.

I think the bug has to do with character position detection and/or lagg. Because I have experienced this behaviour sometimes in other locations in the game, that the “press F option” does not appear and then it helped me to run away a few meters and then come back to the exact same position and then it appears.

Greetings.

Malediktus.9250:

Bordak.6519:

I made a mistake by posting my laugh. In response to:

“The thing is, there is no good or evil……”

I should have simply said this:

You are wrong.

No, morals are a human invention and are passed on from generation to generation by education from parents, religion, school, politicians etc. So is what is considered “good” and “evil”.

You are talking about moral/good/evil as being some guidelines that are passed on. What is considered “good behaviour” can differ from one person to another but every person still has behaviours that he/she considers “good” and “bad”. So there will always be good and evil/bad things.

As we all are humans (thats what I want to believe :-) ) here writing in the forum, there will always be good and bad in “our world” (meaning: in our view/model of the world).

Its the same with, lets say, “white” and “black”. Someone could also say that they are human “inventions” because black and white are just a result of what levels of electromagnetic radiation our eye can detect. Which is right. Animals i.e. can “see” other black and white. Black and white are words/labels for some things we experience. That does not mean that those (underlying) things do not exist or that they themselves are “human inventions”. Same goes with good/bad.

Animals also have these guidelines (on a different level) about what is “good” and “bad” behaviour which are passed on from generation to generation through education and genetics even if they do not have the cognitive power to reflect about the concept of “moral”.

If there is a “universal good” (like God) or an “universal evil” (like The Devil) is a different story that is a matter of personal belief or disbelief because science can not proof the existence or non-existence of them.

Greetings.

Hi,

when I have finished the JP, having the milestone buff (with number 9) and opening the end-chest, the chest opens and I get the loot. But right before I get it, in the chat window appears a red notice that I do have one or more milestones missing.

I this a bug or did I missed something?

Thanks.

I would really like the option of choosing the key or armour part, too.

Greetings.

Karizee.8076:

In fact, I have 2 extra shoulder boxes since they pretty much drop like rain in the new underground Labyrinth

They don’t drop for everyone “like rain”. You were just lucky.

Greetings.

No, the fight will be a modified karka queen fight: Skill 1 – throw egg

Greetings.

P.S. At least we will have a shiny egg. :-)

lordkrall.7241:

Zok.4956:

That is a misleading hyperbole and I think you know it.

But where should we draw the line?

If A-Net removes a reward-option (multiple armor pieces for finishing with multiple chars) from one LS episode (5) to another episode (6) without notice: That should not happen and that is where I would draw the line.

Greetings.

Tachenon.5270:

Zok.4956:

archmag.1259:

Zok.4956:

With the last patch, even Caiths Blossom can now be bought with crests, so you really do not need to achieve anything for this … you just need to grind.

Is it actually unlocked for everyone, or only for those that got it from completing the achievement to get it? This may be only unlocked after you get one of them for achievement, so that people can get second one for their alts.

Well, I have the achievement but I saw it at the npc-merchant not before the last patch, so I assumed it is one of the items that were added with the last patch for everyone. Maybe someone without the achievement should go to the merchant in SW and look it up.

Greetings.

If you mean the priory historian [bandit crest collector] guy at Camp Resolve, I just checked and he doesn’t have it. I also don’t have the achievement.

Yep, I meant him. It seems then it is only available for players that already have the achievement.

Greetings.

lordkrall.7241:

So if I want to login the game once a week I should also get them just for logging in?

That is a misleading hyperbole and I think you know it.

Greetings.

archmag.1259:

Zok.4956:

With the last patch, even Caiths Blossom can now be bought with crests, so you really do not need to achieve anything for this … you just need to grind.

Is it actually unlocked for everyone, or only for those that got it from completing the achievement to get it? This may be only unlocked after you get one of them for achievement, so that people can get second one for their alts.

Well, I have the achievement but I saw it at the npc-merchant not before the last patch, so I assumed it is one of the items that were added with the last patch for everyone. Maybe someone without the achievement should go to the merchant in SW and look it up.

Greetings.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Now we have a game of basically pac-man, as the climax to an event where we defend fortresses WvW-style, against hordes of enemies. This doesn’t fit.

It makes more sense to me, that after defending a bunch of fortresses, that the logical conclusion to that, is that you strike back. I wanted to see an epic finale, where we assault the underground labyrinth, and face off against a big boss. Running around in a labyrinth does not feel like a fitting follow up.

Thanks very much. After I read the above I realised that this is exactely what I do not like about the pac-man-minimap and could not put into words.

Greetings.

lordkrall.7241:

But unless you do it once and then get everything, it will be seen as a grind by some people thus you would suggest that we completely remove the need to do something more than once.

There are people that find grinding for stuff fun. Why not allow them to do that?

I think, you are missing one point. It is not about “not-repeating” at all, but it is about that players should have the choice, so that they can repeatedly do the things, that they like and feel rewarded for.

It does not feel like grinding, when someone does something repeatedly that he likes and he is doing it mostly because he likes it.

If people want to farm Silverwastes and get all the armor: Good, let them.
If people want to do some “pvp-track” and get all the armor: Good, let them.
If people want to do some “WvW-track/badges” and get all the armor: Good, let them.
If people want to do the Living-story again and again and get all the armor: Good, let them.

Greetings.

archmag.1259:

3rd – remember that Anet always tries to experiment and try different things. So they implement this option, get resulting statistics, analyse them and decide which way is better or maybe even produce some other way (choice of Armor box/key at the end of the chapter).

That would be a good solution, that could have been implemented from the start: Give players the choice and let them decide by themselves what they want as a reward.

Greetings.

Zaxares.5419:

I have a suspicion that ANet is once again tying the LS into the different game modes to encourage players to return and populate different parts of the game. I fully expect some of the subsequent armor pieces to require participation in WvW (Badges of Honor. I suspect that this will be the Chest/Leggings piece, and it will require a big sink of Badges), Fractals (Fractal Relics or Pristine Relics) and possibly dungeons/JP’s.

All that said, I still would have preferred if alts could have gotten the Gloves per run. :P I can now understand why it was done, but I’d still have liked more options.

It is OK for me (I am not a PvP player) that they added a “Silverwastes PvP track” for this. They should also add a “WvW-Track/Badges” way to obtain it. And a way to get it with fractal relicts.

Then players with different play-style could get it as long as they play the game and “achieve” something. “play as you want”. And then players would not feel forced to play or grind variants of the game they do not like.

For example: I still do not like it, that you have do to fractals for getting the Mawdrey backpice. I tried one pug group and was in two guilds just for doing the fractals and it seems I did not find the right people to do this, so I gave up on this.

Greetings.

Jimmy JimBob.2801:

The harder it is the less people will have it, and that’s a good thing for me. At the end of the day you’ve got to work hard to get nice things

Farming chests/crests for this is not hard, it is just time consuming and boring (at least for me), which for me is the definition of: Grinding.

With the last patch, even Caiths Blossom can now be bought with crests, so you really do not need to achieve anything for this … you just need to grind.

Greetings

Stooperdale.3560:

Here’s another idiot ball. The Master of Peace wanted to smuggle his shiny dragon egg through a skritt lair! Wow he must have been glad when he saw Mordrem there instead.

ROTFLMAO

It is a dangerous thingy, that brain of ours, if we switch it on. :-)

Greetings.

Invictus.1503:

Glad you like it. Not my cup of tea personally. I don’t think the Labyrinth fits into the story well or the map and I don’t care for it. But then I guess I don’t have to like everything.

Same here. After I have opened the bigger chest in the middle and got the title, I see no reason or fun to go back there.

Greetings.

Ankushp.7245:

We all knew Sylvari were evil…..just evil

Vegetarians of Tyria unite! Eat more Sylvari.

Bazzoong.7145:

She said “no time to explain” and then you hear the dagger “dink” attack sound she defintely killed him and took the egg, SH E TOOK MY EGG MY PET DRAGON TO BE, ROOBED, THE kitten, SHE WILL PAY FOR THIS.

So you both want to be the mother of dragons? But there is only one Khaleesi, Khaleesi.

Greetings.

lordkrall.7241:

If you only rushed straight through it and only did what you had to, it was just as short as this episode.

I did not rush through the last episode (but did not read all the books) and did not rush through the new episode and the new one felt really short for me. And the end in the labyrinth it feels like it was part 2 of 4 parts of the episode and I was really disappointed when it ended and actual thought “thats it….?” too.

Greetings.

I have two chars that are on “Victory or death” in their PS storyline. One freezes the game, the other not when i try to start Episode 6 from hero panel.

The one char that freezes GW2 now was in episode 5 for the achievement before I tried to switch to episode 6.

Calixtus.8617:

On my Guardian character every time I select personal story in the Hero Panel the game locks and becomes unresponsive. Logged to my Necro and could access personal story panel and start episode 6.
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Logged back to Guardian and it hung again on selecting personal story. Perhaps you can fix his RNG at the same time as he is the unluckiest character ever! Also tried moving him from Hoelbrak to LA but no difference.

Same problem with my Ranger – hangs every time you click on story journal in hero panel
Logged to my engi, 2 warriors, thief, ele, mes all okay and episode 6 available

Same problem here. When I select the personal story in the hero panel with my Ele the game freezes instantly and is inresponsive. I have to reboot windows 8.1 because GW2 can not be ended with the task manager.

When I try it with my Engi, that has never played LS (and is not geared to) I can start the episode 6.

Please fix this bug fast!

Greetings.

ukuni.8745:

id say my only problem with gw2 atm is not enough content fast enough.

Well I would have agreed to that 2-3 weeks ago, before the LS started again. :-)

Greetings.

You know, your five year old son has watched you too much, when you were playing GW2, when he wakes you up in the morning and then jumps over you in the bed while he shouts “I am a mordrem thrasher”

(happenend this morning …)

Greetings.

Bubi.7942:

Really Anet?
Last time in Dry Top you had to sell Pot to make a good buck.
This time you extract organs and sell them to some shady asura.
What’s in the next LS, child slavery?!

We already have it. Ask Taimi.

Hi,

I killed my first three legendary mordrem on patch day. Everything was crowded with players that were doing all the events and also were defending the forts. So I was very impressed from the map and played “with the flow” und without trying I participated in several “legendary mordrem” events, so I killed all but the “legendary annihilator”

And after I checked now my achievement panel I wanted to do the last one, the Legendard Annihilator, but without success

I know it should spawn somewhere around redrock when redrock is defended by the pact.

But actually, in the last two days that I am trying, nearly no-one is interested anymore in defending redrock. Without defending, no chance that the Annihilator appears.

From time to time comes a bunch of players along from the waypoint, they help with one defending event, and then go away again. And then the next “defend redrock” event fails, because there is often just one (me) left there.

I have asked in map chat for help in defending redrock, no one was listening or was interested. I have tried to use the LFG tool to find some map where most of the players where defending the 4 forts or just redrock without success.

But nearly in all maps I have visited (and have gone/looked at other forts) it is that the most people are at amber and farming chests (farming is OK, but not what I want at this point).

And I see that a lot of peoply are asking in map chat if anyone has seen any legendary, but no responses. On patch day the message “legendary … at …” was very often in map chat. In the last two days: not once in the maps I was.

The way , how and what people play in this map has changed drastically since patch day.

Whith this, I think, I will never encounter the Legendary Annihilator.

So, any tipps on finding him?

Greetings.

maddoctor.2738:

You are probably been hit my a Mordrem Wolf while they are in a flanking position. I can’t think of any other Mordrem mob that can down you in just two hits, even on full zerker gear.

I think the mordrem wolves are much easier now (compared to the time when they where new in dry top), but thats just a feeling.

Greetings.

Well, normally, I am here writing in the forum about things I do not like.

But now… I have to agree to all above. I really like this patch and this kind of quality of creativity and content is the reason I still like playing GW2.

Please, pretty, pretty please, A-Net, more of this. much more. :-)
You now have proven you can still do it. :-)

Greetings.

leman.7682:

Great job, ArenaNet. Whoever designed the map and came up with the idea of not putting waypoints everywhere around deserves a bonus and a hug from Colin or… something! I really hope it’s not just a single instance of this design.

What do you guys think?

I agree. Only having one waypoint matches to the overall theme and atmosphere of the map.

Greetings.

crosknight.3041:

agree with you here OP. only problem i have with the map is the lack of waypoints since if you die at blue or amber you got to literally run across the entire map to get back.

At first, I thought only one waypoint is inconvenient. But now I feel its a good thing. Dying means something there. Don’t die.

Also. “out there in the wilderness”, away from the base camp, people have to work together and help each other. Which means rezzing other players.

The lack of waypoints supports the atmosphere of the map. I like it.

Greetings.

Palador.2170:

Doomed.5201:

Would you guys consider the “under attack” version of la a raid if it were instanced? The one that was used during Season 1 where you were to save civilians.

I ask because this would further expand on the idea of breaking up a raid into several groups, as it would go as far as allowing players to venture even alone or in pairs while fighting together for one goal. Not to forget that there would still be a need for larger groups that take care of the reacurring/timed events, so that players have a meaningful choice of what they want to do.

There would be less focus on raidspecific mechanics but on
-Knowledge (when do the events spawn)
-individual skill for the non-event-rescuers (how many civilians can you rescue per minute)
-map wide coordination (how to spread out so the map is covered most efficiantly)

If you insist on a bossfight you could still attach the hologram fight to the end of this raid

Honestly, I think this is what they need to do instead of raids. Something like this was much more fun for a wider range of players.

Well, they did it already. The mechanics above were used in Dry Top which I would call a “farm map” and not “open world raid” (thats nothing against farmers, farming is OK). But I liked “under attack” much much more.

But, on the other hand: In other games I knew, nearly every raid got “farm status” after it was mastered by the players and was after that (mostly) played only to farm gear.

So maybe, it could be a raid. Because I think a fun raid needs to be more than just “mechanics”.

Greetings.

Sytherek.7689:

Why don’t I join a big raiding guild? Been there, done that, hate seeing stupid egos clash in guild chat and watching people fight over the guild bank. I’m not interested in petty politics in a game; I’m here to relax and have fun.

No thanks, I can have fun without the aggravation.

I was raiding a lot in an other game (not WoW but Rift) too, and have seen this negative behaviour of people there, too. Because of that experience I was so happy in GW2 when I came to GW2, that here was no need to join a “large guild” to play the game and all the content of the game and I could “just have fun” with some friends.

My small proposal for this: Please make the raiding-system so (maybe improve the LFG tool, not only for guilds, etc..) that raiding can be a fun experience for people that do not want to stress themselfes with a “big guild” and all the negative social interactions, that often can happen there.

Greetings.

Sorean.5379:

Submarinus gets my vote!

Yes, but only if he is yellow.

Leablo.2651:

What exactly is the intention behind creating “raid” content that cannot already be expressed in terms of existing dungeons or fractals? Is it about creating another category of content that is gated to guilds?

Usually the name comes from the number of players the instance is mostly designed for

1 player: “Personal Story, Living Story” (yes, up to 5 players, but mostly designed for 1)
2 player (not existing in GW2)
5 player: Dungeon/Fractal
10 player (or 8, or more): Raid

And with designing for more players there can be other, more challenging game mechanics in the instance.

Crystal Reid.2481:

Should raids be restricted to the guild level that require some form of guild activity/currency to activate/enter, or should they be accessible by anyone? What are your thoughts on that specific?

Raids should be opened/activated/entered by everyone, not just guilds, and it should be without currency.

Binding raids only to guilds seems like an artificial gate/barrier.

Greetings.

Naqaj.6219:

So far the majority of suggestions seem to replicate the boss-focused raid designs of other MMOs, including all the flaws and problems those designs inherit. With GW2 already missing one of the main design objectives of other MMO’s raids (provide continuous power progression to stretch player retention), a raid in GW2 can (and should) take completely different forms.

I think your post reflects an excellent, new idea for raids.

Greetings.

aRestless.6213:

Crystal Reid.2481:

Should raids be restricted to the guild level that require some form of guild activity/currency to activate/enter, or should they be accessible by anyone? What are your thoughts on that specific?

I think we want progression, without the you-need-that-equipment-to-enter we know from other MMOs. I don’t see how this would be possible without a guild that “unlocks” tier after tier.

I think we want no gear-treadmill/grinding to get to the next raid-tier. But it is still possible that every player “unlocks” tier after tier for himself with playing.

I really would like this kind of progression for the player and not (only) for the guild. If a player changes the guild he should not loose his own progression.

Greetings.

Conski Deshan.2057:

Proposal Overview
A small gate before a person can enter a raid.

Goal of Proposal
I know gating base access to content is unpopular here but hear me out:
In a raid your team is only as strong as your weakest link, to ensure that the player has displayed some basic competence and familiarity with boss mechanics. I believe a gate should be introduced.

Yes, I fully agree with that.

Conski Deshan.2057:

Proposal Functionality

I see the gate acting as a tutorial of sorts forcing the player into situations where you’ll gain some of the required experience, some potential examples are:

1. Requires Dungeon Master, simple, ensures boss mechanic knowledge, effective and a fairly short gate.
2. AR/Fractal level gate, Requiring level 20 fractals or 40AR would ensure mechanic knowledge, but would likely be a less popular method as people flip out over being “forced” to do fractals.
3. Hybrid gate, A mix of the two methods above or an either/or choice for it.
4. Something else appropriate that forces contact with advanced bosses.

I do not think that (1),(2) or (3) should be required for doing Raids because people should not be forced to do that content if they want to raid because that would drastically decrease the number of people that probably look into doing raids. I think it should be a gate solely based on a “real, nice but effective tutorial” to help people to play better and to include more of this skilled players into raiding.

I think the goal should not be to make raids only for players that are already good players but to include and help more players (that could learn to become better players) to have fun with this kind of content.

Greetings.

Proposal Overview
Make Raid-mechanics-tutorial (one tutorial or a series of small tutorials) for players

Proposal Functionality
Like the small “dodging tutorial” in some starter zones shows the benefit of dodging there should be other small tutorials that each show some mechanics of raids and bosses and how a player should respond to them (with his class specific functions)

Goal of Proposal
Help players to learn how to play better in some easy, nice way, so they do not have to learn this the hard way (or never). Example: I have friends that have never “dodged” because they thought there was no need to in the game and the new “mini dodge tutorial” helped them to understand dodging and why it is a good thing. In a Raid situation it could be more important that players work together and understand mechanics. So it would be more important to teach players also the Raid-mechanics for successful and fun Raids.

Associated Risks
– players that do not want to use proper mechanics, still dont use them
– players could feel forced or patronized to do the tutorial and could be against it

Greetings.

Retro.6831:

Not everyone wants them to be instanced, so do not treat this as a foregone conclusion.* Organizational tools for large-scale events should not be built around the notion that they are private or exclusive and that players can be kicked out.

Yes …

Retro.6831:

Keep the community AS A WHOLE in mind, with special attention to how player habits change over time.* While you may have thoroughly enjoyed staying up until 3am trying to beat that raid boss when you were in middle school, please consider how incompatible that type of gameplay is with a lifestyle in which employment, families and non-gaming hobbies figure prominently. Many players automatically assume they want “hardcore raiding like in the old days” without realizing that a decade or more has passed and that despite wanting to indulge in that experience again, it may not be realistic to do so (and it can have dire consequences for developers who work under such assumptions; see Wildstar).

• Raids should probably take longer than a dungeon, but not excessively so (remember, not everyone has hours to spend gaming!)
• Raids should not require an excessive amount of preparation (Attunements, buffs, etc.)
• Raids should occur when it is convenient for the individual; time locks and such should not dictate when a player can raid. (Not everyone has a regular work schedule!)

… and yes again.

I think these are very important issues from my point of view and the above describes very good some of the reasons why I switched from an other game (in which I was raiding a lot) to GW2. At some point (because of work und family) I could not and wanted no to spend 2-4 hours an evening/night with a raiding anymore and without being on the “raid team” in my guild there I could not access that content any more.

Greetings.

Here is my little mesmer “Annie DeWitt”. She likes to open portals and to collect things that are laying around.

Greetings.

When I spawn there I often have my normal,regular skills and can run around and make damage and leave the spawn-area, but after 2-4 seconds I am transported back to the spawn point and have the supposed skills of villager or inquisition.

Much more annoying: When I span as a villager I often have no time to read the instructions (at the first tries I wanted to read them…) and respawn immediately as inquisition.

I do know now: There are waiting inquisition players at the spawn point to kill spawning villagers immediately. I tried it myself to check it out: I was even able to use my finishers on the spawning villagers. (and it counts for the stomper achievement).

For people (like me) that are not to used to PvP and who want to try this out this bugs increase the bad “PvP …. I am just canon fodder. Its not fun.” feeling.

Greetings.

Rebound.3409:

Also “Rome” happened thousands of years ago. Even if it’s a saying..should we still use it in our day and time? It’s kinda reminiscent of how the game development’s speed don’t u think?

Well, look at the new “Berlin Brandenburg Airport” in the city of Berlin, the capital of Germany. Work was started in 2006 and it was planned to be finished in 2010…. actually they think now it will take at least till 2018 …

And that is only one airport (OK, a large airport) and not a complete city.

Rebuilding a complete city in reality takes time. But in “game time” it maybe could be a little faster.

Greetings.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

If there’s not an asura-firing catapult designed for, I mean, by Councilor Phlunt . . . there is no justice.

I want trebuchet launched Asuran Special Forces so bad…..

Chris

Give me the root password and I build it for you.

Greetings.

P.S. just kidding
P.P.S. And now something not so completely different: Have you maybe thought about the idea of user generated content/maps/quests/events (not just housing)… for PvE-maps? I want to build a (small but fun) own map so bad ….

Leah Hoyer.9382:

So, don’t expect the Elder Dragons to break into song anytime soon.

Who needs a singing dragon when we already have a singing pirate in GW2?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Captain_Penzan

Greetings and Welcome. :-)

lordkrall.7241:

But that is just the issue.

When they release a road-map and something is changed/delayed the amount of rage and hate here is extreme. Because people see a road-map as a set in stone absolute promise kind of thing.

No, I think its the opposite. Announcing something and then say nothing afterwards, when things change, caused a lot of negative emotions. A-Net can only manage then expectations (and with this reduce intense negative reactions) of its players with regular based communication and information.

Greetings.

Illuminerdi.9153:

The idea behind using RNG instead of grinding is that over a long enough timeline, both should produce a a similarly curved graph; the difference being that grind produces a smooth curve with little variation, whereas RNG produces as jagged curve with peaks and valleys.

Yes, but only when you cumulate all items that where given to all players in total. That is an aspect when you think about the in-game economy.

But from a “per player” viewpoint, the curves will never be similar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution

With a true RNG system there will always be players that are on the “lower end” of the curve/distribution and the loot will never be distributed equally between all players.

Greetings.

Nice video. I really would like to see a “Guild Wars 2: Year two in numbers” in addition the the “year one in numbers”.

Greetings.

Devata.6589:

Well you are right about one part. The cash-shop focus is already there so it would not do much additional harm there. In that way it’s already a F2P game sadly.

Yes, sadly.

Devata.6589:

But lets hope they turn back to the B2P model they promised. Oow and those games went to F2P because there P2P model failed.

I think those games went F2P not because the P2P model failed, but because overall the playercount/market of the genre MMORPG shrunk and they saw that they can make much more money with less costs in the F2P market.

I really would like if A-Net would reduce the F2P cash shop influences and turn back more to the B2P model. But I do no think thats gonna happen. Because it is much easier and has less costs/risks to make a skin and sell it for 30-40 bucks in the gem/cash-shop than to make a real expansion and sell it for 40-50 bucks.

Greetings.

nerovergil.5408:

1. Free players can access sPVP (spvp so dead now no players)

2. Free players can access PVE and WVW but they can only wear Masterwork gear. ( More kitten to be pawned by we the alpha full payed players)

3. Free players can get into lv 80 and can only have exotic gear in their bags (cant wear it, but they can unlock and wear the skin.)

4. Basically free player is like kitten that ready to be pawned by us the alpha male players that bought the game.

5. If the free players want to be stronger they need to bought the game.

6. Esport achieved in sPVP ( the only place free players can pawned full payed players)

7. Profits.

Maybe you should take a look into ArcheAge, it has subscribers/patrons who pay and has f2p-players that can be seen as “prey” for the patrons and so has a lot of what you describe (and has a lot what I do not like).

Greetings.