Guild Wars 2

Brother.1504:

1. Is a well managed 2v1 winnable by the out numbered server? Winnable in this context defined as not just fights but ppt and all other micro managed actions contributing to a match victory.

No.

160>80.

Even if the commander was a gorilla warfare master and the map follows his order perfectly and every player had every buff you can imagine. The main issue is map caps when it comes to truly organized collusion between 2 servers against 1. That commander can split up and mix groups under his command all he wants, but he wont be able to win against a true organized 2v1. And that is only taking “The Greatest Gorilla Warfare Commander Ever”’s play time into consideration. Once he logged the 2v1 would sweep over everything.

Where the whole 2 servers vs 1 overstacked server argument breaks down is that the “overstacked” server cannot use it’s superior population against 2 servers in collusion.

Since the release of the extractor there have been a bunch of threads on this topic with no response. Since you changed transmutation stones into charges there have been even more threads with no response because the issue is even higher priority with the loss of the transmutation stones.

There is some misinformation that has been passed along that changing the wvw and karma gear to be salvageable would ruin the economy. This is false. Only a handful of items would even be affected by this change. Karma and wvw gear should be unrestricted.

TL;DR – When can we expect to have the restricted gear unrestricted or some other option to get upgrades out of substandard gear?

All Items should be salvageable that you buy with the MANY currencies we have in this game. Dungeon tokens are unrestricted so karma and wvw gear should be unrestricted. “play the game how you want” is not possible if there are different rules based on the currencies you receive.

style.6173:

@OP:

I disagree. I have all exotic on my warrior and I rarely die.

I dont care about how often you die. Look at the numbers on the gear.

Fuzzion.2504:

Exotic gear is still suitable for many classes. Esp in zerg warfare. If we start talking about 1v1 and roaming then the tides turn and the OP is spot on.

It doesnt matter whether it is still suitable. All Acended gear gives better stats. I dont care that a full ascended rabid only makes my bleeds tick for 2 more points per tick. But with the changes to transmutations and such there are still multiple sets of substandard gear in my inventory that should be salvagable.

The arguments about the TP being sent into convulsions with all the new material being injected into the market would simply expedite the forced deflation of the tp economy that Anet is maneuvering towards and it wouldn’t have that big of an effect except on a few specific markets.

Behellagh.1468:

I take it there was a way before the patch to extract the superior sigil/rune from karma and dungeon items that isn’t possible anymore with the changes done for the wardrobe.

There is a faction on the forums crying for more rewards that are specifically tied to certain activities so the wealthy just can’t buy those rewards. That’s why dungeon token and karma bought items have those limitations. That’s also why ascended items are account or character bound. Possession should indicate participation.

correction. dungeon token gear has no restriction whatsoever.

inb4 match thread deletion. SF, LP and Thai are all tough.

this didnt get closed as a matchup thread???

None of this quibbling over how well people can play changes the FACT that exotic gear is substandard now. Upgrades are also locked into any exotics bought from a karma or WvW vendor unless you are willing to spend 2-5 times as much gold for one of those stupid overpriced extractors as you would on a new rune.

I have 2 sets of divinity runes and 2 sets of melandru runes and 3 sets of soldier/trooper runes sitting in substandard gear. Thats roughly 250 gold in runes that would cost me about 675 gold to recover with the only option available. Simply put the upgrade extractor argument stands on quicksand.

good suggestion here. i like it especially since Q.V. is in the power line. I think this would make some solid synergy.

I really like that idea. some mystic forge way of geting ascended gear that is directly tied to the gift of battle that works on WvW gear. Maybe tie in 50 ectos like the ascended laurel trinkets.

Gear = all equipment(ARMOR, WEAPON, TRINKETS). The point is none of the badge gear is salvageable.

I also like how the mods moved this post from the BLT forums to the WvW forums so it can be promptly ignored…

Kitiara.2706:

Yep, that has been happening on our server, too. Blue and red working against green together.

theoretically this is how it should work. the 2 lower ranked/weaker servers focusing on the stronger one more to balance the 3 way match.

Wanze.8410:

I also agree fully with you that flipping shouldnt offer any rewards. Personally, i played the TP for thousands of hours and i never got a single copper or anything else as a reward, so i dont know what you complain about. I made plenty of profit though.

I am sure, i dont have to tell you the difference between reward and profit, do I?

READ THIS AGAIN.

Ohoni.6057:

It isn’t about being “good” at playing the TP. It is about doing research and geting expirienced with it. I barely made it out of high school math with a passing grade but I can still turn a little profit of playing it from reading and learning about the TP. All this I did on my own by making the decision I would learn about it. It takes basic math to succeed. All you need to do is learn to multiply by .85.

There’s more to it than that, and congratulations that you have the talent to make it work for you, but accept as a basic premise that not everyone does.

And this sums up what you want. You want the same rewards from working the TP as someone who has put in the PERSONAL EFFORT to research prices on the TP. You are also asking the Dev’s to somehow predict the future FOR YOU through their TP interface.

Yes, that is what I said. The TP should not be an effective money engine, it should only exist to level out the RNG curve of drops, by allowing adventurers a place to find items that RNG did not provide them, and to offload items RNG provided that they do not want. The only money being made off the TP should be going to players who found the items in the first place.

You also dont understand how much work is needed to make the amount of gold you are jelly of off the TP.

Ok, then I’ll ask you two basic questions. 1. Do you spend more than two hours per day actively working on the TP? 2. Do you average more than 5g earned per day? If so, we have a problem, because I spend more than two hours per day playing the actual game, and I tend to average well less than 5g per day in doing so. I’m not saying that the TP is easy or effortless, I’m saying that it rewards unequally for the effort put in, that the other ingame activities do not reward nearly as much for equal amounts of time and effort.

The answer to your first question is no, that would be boring. The answer to your second question is a little more complex. I can flip items and make more than 5 gold for 2 hours investment, but I would rather speed run AC p1-3 for an equal amount of gold but less time invested. Working the TP involves patience and the willingness to suspend your desire for instant gratification. For example, I sold out of my cheap elonian leathers when the spinal blades came out because the price spiked. I then rebought the amount I needed a while later at a much cheaper price.

The Problem you have is that you keep saying you can’t do something. I am saying that playing the TP is like everything else in life. If you apply yourself you can figure out how to make gold off it. But you may not be as good as the next person, such is life. Learn it now and you may be a little more prepared for real life.

You should also consider that your lack of knowledge on this subject may preclude you from making suggestions anyone will take seriously.

Im done unless you can come up with something that doesnt boil down to “I cant do this because someone else will be better than me so nerf plz”

So many things to touch on here but I will be brief.

1. The people who work/play the TP sell to the people who want things now at the price they will pay and buy from people at the price things are listed for. Most of these people are simply flipping from the lowest price they can find to the highest.

2.

I’m not very good at it. I just don’t have a head for economics. I am not good at figuring out which things will give me a good profit, I’m bad at figuring out the best time to buy, and bad at figuring out the best time to sell……snip…

Perhaps, but they(prices) already fluctuate quite a bit over time, and a lot of that comes down to poor feedback from the developers.

It isn’t about being “good” at playing the TP. It is about doing research and geting expirienced with it. I barely made it out of high school math with a passing grade but I can still turn a little profit of playing it from reading and learning about the TP. All this I did on my own by making the decision I would learn about it. It takes basic math to succeed. All you need to do is learn to multiply by .85.

3.

The ideal system would be one in which even the most casual and uninterested player would be able to make the wisest possible decisions on the market, being informed plainly what the ramifications of his choices are. He should know that if he sells something for the best price right now, he would likely make X more if he sells it tomorrow, and Y more if he sells it next week.

And this sums up what you want. You want the same rewards from working the TP as someone who has put in the PERSONAL EFFORT to research prices on the TP. You are also asking the Dev’s to somehow predict the future FOR YOU through their TP interface.

4. I decided early on not to bother grinding out a Legendary. I didn’t wnt to farm the whole thing out. I chose not to do the backend work involved in Crafting a Legendary. I do not have a Legendary.

5. I chose to find some niche crafting markets where I could make a little gold. I chose to learn the TP and how it worked by reading articles online and watching videos.(just like I did when I wanted to learn how to speed run a few dugeons)

You also dont understand how much work is needed to make the amount of gold you are jelly of off the TP. You keep saying you want to play how you want and that is fine for you but dont think you know how much effort is being put into something you, self admittedly, know little to nothing about. Are you jelly of 400 gold? 1k? Is it coins you are jelly of or investments too? I mean the 50 minis all have a cost value assigned to them but dont count towards anyones wallet.

DarkSpirit.7046:

And there is at least 1 auto-outbidding bot that is frequently on that “cheap exotic with worthy salvageable rune/insignia/sigil/inscription” market and it usually buys in quantity of 2.

hi i am not a bot.

With the chest rewards I have been getting from season 2 for the various different achievements involved(Capture X# sentries, Kill X# players, etc) I was thinking that WvW is finally rewarding me almost on a balanced scale compared to PvE.

With that being said could you guys implement a similar system within the WvW achievements section that reset on completion similar to the master of entropy achievement that resets every time you salvage x# things.

The rewards and tasks would have to be worked out but I think you have a pretty good template in the Season 2 achievement panel.

EOTM is a great place for scrub PvE players to get all the wxp rewards without having to come in contact with a live enemy.

i have been stuck at 1 in queue and not gotten in 2 times today…

Then make karma/badge return no crafting material.

But with the advent of ascended gear, alt sets of exotic gear, that were perfectly fine being 100% unchanging in the past, are superfluous now.

OK. TY for your response but….
1. I dont care about the mats. At this point these pieces of equipment are simply taking up space but have limited value upgrades.
2. the mystic forge would waste all those upgrades that are sitting in(in my case and I’m sure many others) outdated gear.
3. The upgrade extractor is priced properly in gem prices for exactly 1 upgrade in this game the superior sigil of generosity. All other upgrade components would end up being a loss in gold value to use that as opposed to replacing.

I would like to salvage these please. I want my runes and sigils out of them and do not need the armor/weapons anymore. Specifically my exotic bloodlust sigil stacking weapons and exotic soldier armor for WvW with runes of the soldier that are from WvW and temples. These exotics literally have no point to exist. The same goes for any exotic trinkets I got from wvw and temples.

This is me eating crow…

thank you.

I like my new engineer. Too bad i wont play him this season.

yoohoo devs. Anything to be said about this topic????

lol…

Deified.7520:

You’re example is one of my main concerns though and why I brought this up. If a stronger server gets ahold of SM, it can snowball in terms of how dominate the stronger server is. It makes weaker servers or servers that don’t have as much population (1) compared to the the one with SM a lot harder to do stuff in the game. I know what you’re going to say, its the stronger server so them winning more is reasonable. However, this isn’t exactly something thats good. You want as close to a fair match as possible(2) in these never ending battles. I mean countless times I’ve seen huge WvW guilds leaver servers because of something minimal, or WvW guilds on already bad servers leave it which then makes their WvW coverage even worse and these guilds leaver because of small poor design decisions. The pugs aren’t “smart enough”, not enough nightcoverage, server can’t take SM enough, these are all reasons I’ve seen given from a WvW guild that leaves their server. (3)

(1) This is redundant. weaker servers = less coverage. note: population =/= coverage

(2) fair match = stronger server winning. Anything else is counter intuitive. When it comes to the WvW game mode coverage beats population and skill. note: Tyria and the mists are not Sparta. WvW is not the place you can pull off being the 300 because every other real person in zone want to also and most of them will be better at pvp than you.

(3)You contradict your self here. which is it? Did the WvW guilds leave because of the reasons you list(bad pugs, night coverage, etc) or did they leave because of “small poor design decisions”?

SM is a trinket. if a more populous server takes it and decides to hold it you can only mitigate the damage it does to the surrounding towers until you THINK of a way to retake it. note:you don’t need 90% of your force to take SM for the whole siege. A few dedicated groups can handle taking down the outer easy, they can probably make multiple openings in a short time. Heck a commander with a zerg can drop 4-5 catas on a wall wp, resupply and focus on inner since the walls will be down by the time he comes back.

this is a l2p post i think.

@husanak ths person is self absorbed. He thinks his way of playing is more important than another persons. Typical ego.

He also doesn’t realize that his attitude, if Anet shared it, would entirely disenfranchise a large percentage of the playerbase. The more “hardcore” players too.

in before lock winnerwinnerchickendinner

this thread is always on the first page. I wonder why.

Corpse Flakes.5369:

I would also like “light” “medium” and “heavy” armor filters.

This. Didn’t someone say it was in beta? I was in beta but didn’t use the tp or really explore it enough to remember.

Lil Puppy.5216:

I mean, who’s actually fighting monsters while browsing the TP/gem store?

/raises hand. The chest boss fights are spam 1 and get rezzed to win.

Did you really list almost 20k kills in WvW since release at a positive stat?

edit: almost?

3/27 “account bound” will not refer to wxp. Don’t fool yourself.

It wont ever come. ever.

blah blah grindfest blah blah.. alt unfriendly…blah

Sooooo… I guess im stuck on my guardian for the season :/

Jamais vu.5284:

Delta.2093:

A promise it’s a promise.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/world-xp-and-you/
by Devon Carver on November 27, 2013
“We want to get this change out to everyone in a timely manner, but it’s a complicated change that we want to test thoroughly before releasing.”

OK, test it thoroughly. Very, very thoroughly.
Just… you know, it’s 15th March 2014 — more than 3 months passed…

This is the reason sub fees in MMOs exist. kitten like this just doesn’t fly with subscribers.
Zero accountability.
GW2 likely set the B2P model back several years.

your delusional. all mmo’s have buggy patches. I remember WOW and SWTOR both being down over 24 hours after major patches when they had a sub.

^^^until anet says it it means nothing

^^^until anet says it it means nothing

I would like to play all the classes I have during seasons depending on my mood.

How Will it Work?

With all of this in mind, the system is receiving the following changes:
All earned World XP on an account will be put into a single pool.
The sum of those points will determine the world rank and World Ability Points available to each character on the account.
World Ability Points can be allocated differently on each character; you are not creating a single, account-based, version of your characters.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/world-xp-and-you/

account bound wxp please. i want to play my warrior.

LF60+ chests. Ill try this event again when i can be rewarded for it.

There’s another thread about this. please keep all references to this issue there so its easier to ignore.

“troll it, troll it” i have my banner here" “…” “why didnt my banner rez him???” “capped, respawn”

Dabrixmgp.4758:

it took me 48 ranks to finally get an Ascended Weapon chest. Please fix.

48 ranks??? im looking at over 800 over all my characters and have gotten 1 weapon and 1 ring :/

here is what I saw a few minutes ago

so since all potions have been tested to have this exact result, is a fix for them happening soon?

“Fixed an issue in which the Powerful Potion of Slaying Scarlet’s Armies was causing players to take additional damage from Scarlet’s forces.”

bug patch notes today…

Devitz.2136:

25setup :
12/13 melee 7/8G/5W
2 mes
3 staff ele
4/5 necro
1/2 thieves(or 1/2 d/d ele)

if you need more melee, means you’re just bad.
It’s funny how people think melee train is main source of dmg… for 1.5year now.

shhh….

just look at this big shiny thing over here that makes it hard to do your abilities…..

I love how squishy my new warrior is without his applied fortitude that is on my 4 other characters…still no guard leach…..oh yeah they changed the name…I wouldn’t really know because I play alts and they are punished….still punished….

I am thinking I have seen this in T1 almost every time one server tries to break a T3 keep. The 2 attacking servers usually fight over the new paper keep and karma train a little.