Guild Wars 2

Thank you Anet for making this thread sticky.

I Actually updated this about a month ago and forgot to edit the thread. Sorry about that. I moved the info to an easy to read and navigate goodle docs. It also allowed me to open the document up for comments.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hqSBTU7naW1TW5Z_ZRLuyiWnBUO4Zz_9Ta0u0CZQX8Y/edit?usp=sharing

You both correct and wrong at the same time.

The thing is, AH is great for healing over time, that’s what it is after all, but because of that it cannot save you from a massive damage spike. It can heal you up after wards, but that’s about it.

Choppy is correct in that where you get the damage from does not matter to AH, but he is wrong in that the statement insinuates that it is equally as effective vs both forms of damage.

This is not the case. AH is more effective vs Direct damage spikes because a warrior has more ways of ignoring direct damage than they do ignoring condition damage spikes. So a warrior can by time for AH to heal them from direct damage, but they cannot as effectively ignore condition damage. (that’s what clearing is for. more on that in a second.)

However, Caedmon.6798, has stated unequivocally that AH is more effective vs Direct Damage. This is just not the case. (or at least not that simple) Yes, if you are taking 5k condi ticks from multiple conditions (lets say, Bleed, and burn) then yes AH is more effective Vs direct damage, mainly because you should never allow yourself to be taking that many condis to begin with. Warriors do not have many ways to negate Condi damage, but they have more than enough ways to limit the amount they take, through condi clears.

So in short. AH is always equally as effective, as long as you are doing what you are supposed to be doing as a warrior. If you are not, then condition damage will eat you right through AH at a quicker pace than Direct damage.

Its good to point out here as well. A thief can 100-45% a warrior with 19K health on 1.5 seconds. (Defy pain proc when you get hit at 50% or below HP, hence the 45% hp) If timed correctly 4 seconds later, the warrior will die in 1.5 seconds. That’s from direct damage. (its not overpowered either, not complaining about thieves here)

So it also depends on what you are fighting. A Power Thief with some skill? Yeah AH not very effective. A Condi power Necro Reaper? yeah AH also not much help. You need to rely on your skill with the class in these situations. You need to know how to get out of a thief’s damage spike, and how to deal with the necro’s reaper form.

sorry for the wall of text.

+1 for choppy. AH is mandatory for a warrior to be viable in most modes of play and in ANY mode of play that is PVP. you can get away without it in PVE and thats about it.

Lol i always laugh when people say that Gunflame sucks now.

sure. And yes i was wrong. it 53% burning and bleeds duration. but still good.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNApeTnMdAtkidhAmhAElilqATpHE7yBvj2WbsFpA0ACAA-TZRAABAeGAKa/BAeAA6XGIgDBAA

Lol I run with Vipers, he is wasting alot of points for that 100% burn duration. with Balthazar, and wanderers you actually have over 100% burn duration. I wun Malandru’s runes and Vipers, then pop in Smoldering and Agony sigils with this build. you’ll end up with around 70% burns and bleeds, and you’ll have more sustain and more than enough direct damage to make up for the slightly lower burn duration.

With Great sword, i highly recommend either Rifle, or Axe/shield. Just for fun i’d Also suggest Hammer, as it can be great fun, but i’d never run it as a main unless i was in WVW Front Line

From your post, i seem to gather you don’t take enough advantage of your weapon swaps, so whatever you choose i’d definatly suggest swapping weapon every 5 seconds or so.

but much less sustain

What are you talking about. Josh just posted yesterday.

@furafir, sometime in the near future. its hard to say because they may not get everything on the very next update. but seeing as how the one about rush actually has some specifics, i’ll have to assume that it will likelly be one of the next ones fixed.

Warhorn 4

• Grant allies copies of your boons
• Boons Copied: 3

Warhorn 5

• 5: Consume all boons healing nearby allies based on how many boons you consume.
• Boons Consumed: 13
• Healing Per boon: 300

@Elgie, Saddly im not sure there is anything they can do about it. The skill works as intended, it’s latency between you the other client and the server that is the problem.

@Elgie, sort of. The bug was caused by a timing issue between when you cast it, and when the skill that hits you was cast. for example, if someone uses true shot and as they are castign it you activate endure pain there is a possibility it will go through becasue his still was cast “first”. This was partially fixed because they changed when Defy pain kicks off. (now at 50% hp) This emans that if you do take a hit as Defy pain kicks off, you wont be insta downed like you used to.

^your welcome BTW.

@TheBravery, I can only speculate that as a brand manager he is simply notifying the community in order to keep up brand integrity. It’s fairly common for someone who focuses on branding to network with clients. It’s his job to make sure that the client’s have a positive image of the name. Developers were originally supposed to do this, but it has become obvious that they were not following through either because they honestly did not care or (more likelly) that they were just too busy with creating new content.

It’s a known fact that dev teams are typically understaffed and game development is often plagued by heavy workloads. So in steps the brand manager to take over in order to allow the dev team to keep working on the game. be glad it’s a Brand manager and not a SALES manager. THATS when you know things are bad.

^ Was that a bleach reference?

@ OP

No one REALLY thinks thief is cancer, what people can’t stand is getting spiked down almost instantly without being able to put up a fight because thief just either can’t be hit, or can’t be targeted. sure, if we do hit you one good time, you melt, but its so hard to do in a 1v1 for most classes, while thieves have a massive spike damage.

^lolz.

Seriously though, on a power build setting things on fire does not help with Full Zerker

Arcing Shot is trash from far away but you can drop it at your feet and it woll go of almost instant and easily hit for 4K without even running full power. On top of that yes, you can stack might with it,

Josh you are a man among men! Thanks again for all your hard work

Don’t listen to him, Josh. We love that you cared enough to come post. And that goes for all of the Class forums that you visited. Thank you.

Warriors Trolling Forever?

Tactics (none of which are probably Viable)

• Leap in with Earthshaker> Swap> Arc Divider
• Back Line: Burn Bow> Frontline: Hammer>Mid Line: Greatsword/Axe+Sh>Midline and back line run Banner?

So, i now have this dream in my head now of a Warrior Commander with a large number of Berserker Warriors in his squad charging into a swarm.
“Arc Divider on 3, 2 1, Arc Divider”

And then crashing the server with wave after wave of Arc Dividers moving outwards, each one devastating hordes of enemies.

Thank for that,.

OMG. Thank you Josh!

Very impressive gameplay.

How? I love me some hammer, but the low damage output coupled with being a melee weapon with negligible mobility makes it a really tough sell. If there’s a way to see numbers like that out of it, though…

Full Berserker Setup : EarthShaker>Backbreaker

Or if you want to be really mean:

Hybrid Condition Setup: Earthshaker>Backbreaker>Staggering Blow>swap>sheild bash>Skull crack>Pummel>bash

or

Staggering blow, Earthshaker>Backbreaker>swap>Sheild bash, Skull crack>Pummel bash.

The Power Version is trait up damage, and the hybrid will hit for about 25% less damage on crits, but will stack on loads of Condi’s through Body blow, and Distracting strikes.

You’ll see some pretty impressive numbers with it, but you also have to use the weapon correctly. the hammer is not a weapon that you around auto attacking with. you basically swap into it, perform a combo, then swap back out. With the Hybrid setup i sow below the hammer is used as an opener, into a long string of stun locks while the mace provides defensive capabilities so that you can set up your stun locks.

Here is a very simple hybrid build with he hammer.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAS5ejMdQXIWGCWdAnIGICMLA8B7Z4J4FMC0vw0bLA-TJhRAB1WGAg9H25iAg5TAAA

AH is not easier to come by in Berserker. yes you can burst more often but AH lasts long enough for both Vanilla and Berserker to keep it up indefinitely in a fight. But berserk has more access to Condi’s, quicker bursts that are generally more powerful, has the best Elite skill, and arguably the best utilities in the game. so i think that’s why it seams more powerful.

Choppy.4183
choovanski.5462:
they are not needed
the strongest warrior build ive found runs neither of them
Strength/Tactics/Zerker
I generally find Tactics underpowered, so I’m intrigued and skeptical. Care to share a build or vid?

It does not work for PVP. shout heals are just two weak, The only use i can see is extra burning thorough burning arrows, a little team support through phalanx strength, and extra condi damage through the strength line+berserker’s great condi support. It would definitely work in PVE, but not in PVP. Never.

Guardian

• Depends on the Guardian. Sounds like your were fighting a dragon hunter, but there are two types of Dragon hunters.

• Skirmisher DH: These guys use traps more skillfully and are probably the hardest thing for you to fight. They use Trappers runes often and are constantly moving and setting up a very unfriendly battle field. Keep an eye on them as they move and you will be able to see where they dropped their traps. You can cancel two of their traps with dodges, but because they choose not to drop their traps on top of one another, they will have more options. This is the type of DH i play, and honestly, i tend to beat out most warriors i face with it.

• Turtle DH: These are the guys that stand in their traps and just turtle there while pulling you into the traps. while very powerful these guys tend to lay their traps on top of one another. this means you can use a single dodge through them to cancel all their traps at once. Then just like i showed you, you can short cast into a burst skill.They will lay their traps again, which is when you simply dodge again, swap weapons and burst again. This effectively takes out their biggest combo. they will likelly cycle through their sheild>Meditation>Sheild to buy time for their traps to come back up, no problem, by this time you’ll have another dodge ready to avoid teir next trap burst. after that they are screwed. they will have 4 heals during the engagement, (Two from virtues, two from heal)

• Dragon hunter in general: They have lots of sustain is used correctly, but they are shut down by Condi’s. In the direct damage department, you just really need 4 good hits on them and they will Die. 4, 5k+ hits will kill them. If you need toclose the distance, use a movement skill. Remember that they can drop you to 50% health, but if they do your Defy pain will kick in. don’t get scared just because they have a big initial burst. just concentrate on hitting them 4 or 5 times before they can pop a block or invulnerability. They are also short on stun breakers. almost forgot that.

Bumb hand here telling you what to do. Go into your options and set a mouse button to combat camera. Then, set your ground targets in general to snap to target. Then set then to automatically be set to max range. Then set them for quick cast t
With indicator. It sounds like your mouse hand is your bad hand. Is this correct?

Leap is the same way. instead of being a point to point leap like it should be it’s literally just the systems telling the character to leap forward on the same level. so if you leap off of a higher level at the end of your leap you will fall strait down.

No…No freaking way….That is amazing.

Choppy.4183
Sorry, but gunflame was broken as hell, rewarding bad players almost as much as good players in most cases. It needed a serious damage pinch, and the piercing combined with the spammability and explosion per hit were ridiculous.
The added dodge and immob to 4 were undeniable buffs. The dodge was a much needed defensive buff when facing anything but bots, and those concerned about lost time as the dodge executes were compensated with the immob, which is longer than the dodge and still gives enough time to get a gunflame off.
The warrior rifle is better now than it’s been for most of the existence of the game. And lb needed a direct damage buff to compensate to what was lost to power builds when burning was changed. The auto attack on the two weapons is almost the same now, once you factor in attack speed.

As usual I’m with choppy on this one, especially the part obout the dodge. Look, I suck at Rifle, just like i suck at greatsword, but one thing i know how to do is use an evade effectively. And with killshot (let alone gunflame because it’s even better] i can almost always land a hit by chaining it off of the evade. they get close, i evade and press killshot at the same time and by the time they know what i did it’s too late, i put distance between us and my killshot hits them a second later. I’m all for the nerf to rifle.

Lol.

Shortcasting
When activating and action you may notice that you can queue up another action while the current one is taking effect. This is a feature build into the game which helps the system keep track of effcts. This is also why you may notice sometimes when you are lagging that abilities you activate all get the gold “activatiing” indicator but nothing happens"

Basically think of it as a queue for abilities meaning you can queue up an ability to activate as soon as the next one ends. With instant casts theres not point, but with actions that have a duration like eviscerate, or sheild bash the queue can be used to your advantage, allowing you to get off an ability quicker than normal. Keep in mid the action does not actually go off quicker. it only seems that way from your opponents point of view because you did not wait for the previous ability to end. How this helps.

Example
So lets say iim in a fight with another warrior and i dodge his eviscerate. Well without shortcasting I may dodge then use my own eviscerate, but if I activate Eviscerate as i dodge the instant my Dodge ends i’ll come out of it going directly into the eviscerate animation. So what was a dodge becomes an eviscerate. You can do the same thing with any skill that has a cast time while doing any action with a duration to varying degrees of success. Shield bash, Headbut , Kick, Stomp, pretty much any movement skill works pretty well.

The upside is that you may appear to look like you have SUPER good reaction time, when in fact you are just doing two things at once..

There is a difference of course between shortcasting and just spamping the queue with button presses. Shortcasting is meant to be precise. it does not work unless the two actions you choose to queue 1: work well together, and 2: are done at the right time.

Queuing a Trap+teleport for example is probably not really worth it, but queuing a leap and a trap may be as it allows your trap to be cast “sooner” (not quicker, the cast time is still the same)

My response to this should have just been a vid of my Swap spamming T1 eviscerates in Spvp. I think i’ve pretty much figured out how to hit with nearly 100% accuracy with eviscerate. It may get Blocked of evaded, but i never miss because of glitches.

The secret

• stop trying to hit with a T3 every time.
• Eviscerate after using an action with a duration. (short casting)
• Stop depending soley on eviscerate
• Learn to dodge while remaining near your opponent
• you can short cast out of a Dodge, and any movement skill.
• For some treason Eviscerate is more accurate when you short cast it. For example: normal eviscerate without short cast for some reason goes to where the enemy WAS, but short casting it sends the Eviscerate where your camera is facing. so as long as you face where you want to Eviscerate you’ll notice that you bypass that stupid bug (which is not actually a bug but a side effect of targets changing positions while the attack is casting.)

PS: The same can be proven with every other Skill that has this problem. Even blade trail can be short cast in this way, which is pretty cool.

Condi Stomper
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQRAse5enMdAdhgtdAWdAEliFiAD5E8CGBGBgPYP7t4+cnuA-TZhAAB/dSAyvMAR7P8xRAAgHAAA

A hybrid Power condi build intended to work best in a team fight. Its predictable in 1v1s, but creates a heck of alot of confusion in groups .

@Agemnon.4608, yeah, no. just no.

@OP: So i looked on youtube for some vids of him playing his Rev. The newest one I found was about 2 moths old. He’s good. But he’s not unbeatable. keep in mind 2 months ago Rev was much better of than it is now. I can;t really say what he does wrong per say as I’m not very famailliar with Revenant as a whole, but he does haev some tells.

• He swaps his stances almost exactly as they come available in combat. That being said, the way you can use this to your advantage is by knowing what the weaknesses of each stance are entry try to play to the weekness he currently has. Glint has the advantage of being very easy to maintain energy with. so it’s going to be hard to shut him down while he’s using Glint, but this is also your chance to damage him more as the heal from Glint is not as effective as the alternative heal.
• if you are playing condi you should know that he is rather weak to them. All revs are. when he dodges he’s clear one, if he has a sigil that cleanses he can cleanse a little bit, and of course he has one skill and his legend swaps that cleanse. So after he Swaps Legends you can bet he’s going to be short of condi cleanse for about 10 seconds.

• he swaps his weapons in between legend swaps. what i mean is that he likes to move around with glint, but he will not swap weapons when entering combat ntil after he swaps legends. This may not seem like much to go on but it is actually very important. It means that you can predict his swap combo pretty easilly. If he swaps legends you can bet he’s about to swap weapons so evading at the right time can avoid a massive combo.

• I’m sorry i can’t be too much help, because i understand Toker changes his build and his play style alot like any good player. your best bet is to just keep fighting revs in 1v1s until you can predict their combos. Playing revenant will greatly help with understanding what he can and cannot do. Personally i find revetments very squishy, to play as mainly because i cannot figure out howto manage my energy effectively. Toker does not have this problem

this is the vid i watched.

^ LOL. Well said sir, well said.

^Funny. Its funny that the class the introduced resistance has such little access to it.

Do you know what his build is? If i could look at it i may figure it out. don’t know if i could beat him but i could likelly figure out what he’s doing

Defense Strength Discipline

• Power warrior
• Sheild/mace, Hammer, condi stomper.
• Neither are trash
• Largest number of players without HoT

Defense, Strength, Berserker

• Berserker Condi Stomper
• Berserker Power Warrior
• Neither is trash
• Largest number of players who just want to play something different

Defense, discipline, Berserker

• Meta Condi
• Meta Power
• Obviously neither is trash
• Has the largest population of elitist jerks calling all other warriors trash. Grow up people. play what you want, warrior is the only class where you can play this many builds and still have fun. next closest is thief, maybe

good question. probably because if it were Revs would have way to many powerful skills available all to often. can you imagine crystal hibernation without a cooldown? Personally i think revenant weapon skills should be cooldowns, and the utilities should use energy. so sort of like initiative for utilities. this would fix a lot of problems.

Currently everything a revenant does uses energy, but even if they are good at maintaining energy they till deal with cooldowns. by removing energy costs from weapons, and cooldowns from utilities the devs would free up alot of energy allowing revs to adjust to situations better.

but this is only one of many problems with Revenants.

Vipers or bust guys!!!

I guess by “real class” they mean necro, or Engineer? or Elementalists? Just message them, “Play another game”

Also, its so funny to see entire posts where half the words are feline themed.

The biggest problem with this bug is that rangers so UI of exploit ancient seeds bugs to lock you down almost permanently. Since the patch I have not had a problem with it aside from rangers complaining about the “nerf”

Eh. Personally you’d never notice the difference if you set your preferences to enemy players have standard models. I don’t know if most pvpers do this but I do.

If you don’t know why you also don’t know they won’t. You heard a dev say no? If not don’t post this sort of thing, and if so please provide a source.

oh. HAH! no wonder i never figured it out. I only every post in excess lol

What is 15 chars supposed to mean?

according to patch notes? no

Add me as a friend and I’ll be happy to take you into a PvP room and train you. I’m not the best warrior out there but I love working with new players and seeing them get better.